Business of Home Podcast

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including a major housing bill, Kips Bay’s big move and why GEO is the new SEO. Later, British interior designer Tiffany Duggan of Studio Duggan joins the show. This episode is sponsored by Joon LoloiLINKSStudio DugganBusiness of Home

Haworth began in the 1940s as a maker of office partitions and grew into a commercial furniture giant. But today the company is also home to a robust portfolio of high-end design brands, including Janus et Cie, Poltrona Frau, Cassina, Luminaire, Heller and more. On this episode of the podcast, Haworth CEO Franco Bianchi speaks with host Dennis Scully about what the American luxury landscape is missing out on, the company’s slow-and-steady acquisition process, and why he wants Haworth to go faster.  This episode is sponsored by Loloi and KohlerLINKSHaworthDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including a tariff update, the IIDA’s future readiness report, and a look at the biggest stories of the year (so far). Later, Monika McCommon of The Home Influencers joins the show to talk about her new platform.  This episode is sponsored by Joon LoloiLINKSThe Home InfluencersBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including a new hub for home influencers, what makes for a great design portfolio and the final piece of RH’s European strategy. Later, Michael Smith joins the show to talk about his first collection for Zoffany.   This episode is sponsored by Joon LoloiLINKSMichael Smith for ZoffanyBusiness of Home

Drew Michael Scott grew up on YouTube, starting his first channel at age 12. Almost two decades later under the moniker Lone Fox, he’s become one of the biggest voices in DIY and design on the platform with nearly 2 million subscribers—not to mention his 1.5 million on Instagram. Drew doesn’t pretend to be an interior designer—he loves to learn alongside his audience, and embraces the journey, clip by clip. On this episode of the podcast he speaks with host Dennis Scully about why he’s opened up a shop dedicated to vintage pieces, which social media platform has the least friendly algorithm, and why he still edits every video himself.   This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and KohlerLINKSLone FoxLone Fox on YouTubeDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including Charles Cohen’s great escape, Bed Bath & Beyond’s third acquisition in three months and the rise of the owner’s rep. Later, CEOs Andy Singer and Rohan Blacker join the show to talk about why Visual Comfort bought Pooky. This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Newport BrassLINKSVisual ComfortPookyBusiness of Home

The last time Fireclay Tile CEO Eric Edelson was on the podcast, he shared the story of how he took over the company and, in a Jerry McGuire moment, turned its business model upside down. Six years later, and Fireclay has grown considerably, and Edelson has been on an acquisition spree, recently picking up Fox Marble, a sizeable Bay Area area fabrication and installation firm.   On this episode of the podcast, Edelson tells host Dennis Scully about why running a company in California is both an opportunity and a challenge, why he still believes in the B Corp model, and why the biggest change to his approach has been learning how to plan for success.  This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and KohlerLINKSFireclay TileDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen discuss the biggest news in the design world, including RH’s latest earnings report, Louis Poulsen’s new ownership, and why everything is hidden in the new luxury kitchen. This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Newport BrassLINKSBusiness of Home

Founded in London in the 19th century, Liberty has always been known for its embrace of bold and daring style. Oscar Wilde called it “the chosen resort of the artistic shopper,” a reputation that stuck for 150 years—today, Liberty is one of the most-visited stores in London. In recent years, the brand has been known more for fashion than home, but head of design for Liberty Interiors Genevieve Bennett has been tasked to revitalize the interiors fabric business, and she’s been on a tear, overseeing new collections that tap the company’s incredible archive while looking ahead to the future.  In this episode, host Dennis Scully speaks with Bennett about how Liberty approaches design for different regions around the world, why they’re being cautious about performance fabrics, and the good news that color and pattern are officially back.   This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and KohlerLINKSLiberty InteriorsGenevieve BennettDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including a sweeping new tariff proposal, uncertainty at New York’s A&D building and whether Google Lens is ruining vintage shopping. Later, comedian Julio Torres and Sabai founder Phantila Phataraprasit join the show to talk about their unique collaboration. This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Newport BrassLINKSJulio TorresSabaiBusiness of Home      

Steven Volpe’s headquarters are in San Francisco, but his work has an international appeal—partially a product of the four years he spent in Paris as a young man, soaking up the city’s architecture and design. Today he runs a team of twenty, taking on projects around the world. Volpe’s serene, timeless work is widely published, and he’s a regular presence on the AD100. On this episode of the podcast he speaks with host Dennis Scully about how youthful confidence helped him build his career, why he likes having owner’s reps on the job site, and how formality has changed, but not disappeared from the home. This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and KohlerLINKSStudio VolpeDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including change at the top at MillerKnoll, how the AI boom is shaking up San Francisco’s housing market and a surprising new luxury amenity. Later, designer Leanne Ford joins the show to talk about her new book, Feel Free Home. This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Newport BrassLINKSLeanne FordFeel Free HomeBusiness of Home

Max Rollitt has many strings to his bow: He’s a restorer of antiques, a maker of fine reproductions, and an interior designer. Out of a restored barn in rural England he runs all three parts of his business with a combined showroom, design studio, and upholstery workshop. Rollitt’s endeavors are well-covered by the British press, and he’s been featured on House & Garden’s Top 100 list for more than a decade. On this episode of the podcast, Rollitt speaks with host Dennis Scully about why dining rooms are so challenging, why now is a good time to get into the antiques business, and why he wants to bring fun back to the home.  This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and KohlerLINKSMax RollittDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including a big lighting acquisition, the AI vibe shift and whether the industry’s beige epidemic is really over. Later, designer Nathan Turner joins the show to talk about his new book, I Love Decorating.   This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Resource FurnitureLINKSNathan TurnerI Love DecoratingBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including an executive shake-up at Holly Hunt, the shutdown of Houzz’s shopping site and dispatches from New York Design Week. Later, Susan Clark of Radnor shares her take on design centers, trade shows, and collectible furniture.  This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Resource FurnitureLINKSRadnorBusiness of Home

Born in rural Massachusetts to a family of makers and tinkerers, Charles de Lisle grew up obsessed with how things work. After finding his way to the San Francisco Bay Area, he got involved with the design scene, first launching a line of lamps, then helping to start a commercial firm. Eventually de Lisle went out on his own, and has earned acclaim for his residential work, including placement on the AD100. On this episode of podcast he speaks with host Dennis Scully about why he loves clients who are risk takers, how a chance encounter with a Michael Taylor room changed his life, and why he likes to be called a decorator, not a designer. This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and KohlerLINKSCharles de LisleDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including big news from ICFF, a surprise foam shortage and why sleeper sofas are making a comeback. Later, Julia Haley Montanez joins the show to talk about New York's design week.   This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Resource FurnitureLINKSJulia Haney MontanezThe Design ReleaseICFFBusiness of Home

Leyden Lewis is a New Yorker—he grew up in Brooklyn, went to Parsons and made his way into the design industry, where his work quickly found an audience through a room in the Kips Bay Show House. Today, Lewis is an AD100 designer—his widely published work draws on modernism, traditional craft, and an obsession with art in all its forms. On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about why he doesn’t believe in project minimums, the difference between media visibility and financial success, and why he’s not afraid of AI in the slightest.  This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and KohlerLINKSLeyden LewisDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including a check-in on the housing market, RH’s debut in Milan, and whether contemporary kitchens have gotten too slick. Later, designer Sarah Sherman Samuel joins the show to talk about her new book.   This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Resource FurnitureLINKSSarah Sherman SamuelSarah Sherman Samuel: The Intersection of Art and DesignBusiness of Home

My guests this week are Rodman Primack and Rudy Weissenberg, the couple behind design firm Ago Interiors and collectible design gallery Ago Projects. The business started with Primack, whose career has jumped between art and design, including stints working for Christie’s, Gagosian, and Peter Marino—not to mention his own AD100 firm. Weissenberg, whose background is in finance and TV, joined the business more recently. Together they do a little of everything, from high-profile design projects to collaborating with artists and artisans on bespoke pieces for their Mexico City gallery.    On this episode of the podcast they speak with host Dennis Scully about the rise of collectible design, why online discourse about design is so frustrating, and why their work isn’t for everyone—and that’s just fine. This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and KohlerLINKSAgo InteriorsAgo ProjectsDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including bankruptcy for Wren Kitchens, a Charles Cohen update, and the most valuable design auction in U.S. history. Later, BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen joins the show to recap High Point Spring Market.   This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Chelsea HouseLINKSBusiness of Home

Alison Kenworthy and Michael Koenigs are the married couple behind YouTube sensation Homeworthy. Both came from the television world—she was a producer on Good Morning America, he worked as an executive producer creating shows for ABC, Disney and Hulu. But in 2019, Kenworthy left it all behind to launch Homeworthy, initially filming home tours on her own with an iPhone. After a slow start, it took off, and in seven short years the channel has amassed almost 800,000 subscribers and garners more than 100 million watch minutes on YouTube every month. The iPhone days are over: Now Homeworthy works with a network of 100-plus producers and videographers to capture the homes of designers, tastemakers and celebrities. On this episode of the podcast, Kenworthy and Koenigs speak with host Dennis Scully about why Homeworthy got popular once its content got longer, the secrets of a good home tour, and why YouTube is the future of media. This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and CryptonLINKSHomeworthyDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen discuss the biggest news in the design world, including the rise of the wealth tax, an update on the tariff refund process, and whether being featured in a magazine still matters. Later, interior designer Chloe Redmond Warner joins the show to talk about her new book, This Must Be the Place.  This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Chelsea HouseLINKSChloe Redmond WarnerBusiness of Home

Founded in the 1980s by designer Mark Moussa, in four decades Arteriors has grown from a boutique decor company into a global brand focused on the trade. CEO John Hart joined the company in 2024, after the Covid home boom had faded away—he’s revamped the C-suite, re-focused Arteriors on product, and is looking to make a big splash at High Point Market this spring.    In this episode, Hart speaks with host Dennis Scully about why tariffs didn’t change the company’s business as much as you’d think; why he’s not betting on a housing turnaround; and why, in a time where everyone else is trying to go further up the market, he’s happy for Arteriors to stay exactly where it is.  This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and CryptonLINKSArteriorsDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including the rise of AI consultants, a check-in on tariffs and inflation and how designers are capitalizing on the wellness revolution. Later, Artemest CEO Marco Credendino joins the show to talk about the brand's plans for Milan Design Week. This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Chelsea HouseLINKSArtemestBusiness of Home

Though Sarah Robertson was drawn to design from an early age, she took a more practical route at first, earning an MBA from Northwestern and then working as a consultant at McKinsey & Company. But eventually her creative side won out: after purchasing properties and renovating historic homes in Chicago’s Wicker Park neighborhood with her mother, she left consulting behind and launched Studio Dearborn. Since then, Robertson has built a reputation for kitchens that are as functional as they are beautiful, earning recognition as both an award-winning designer and a thoughtful voice in the industry. On this episode of the podcast Robertson and her son Owen—who recently became Studio Dearborn’s second employee—speak to host Dennis Scully from the garage studio of their Mamaroneck, New York, home. They discuss Robertson’s roundabout path to design, the Amish cabinetmakers she can’t live without, and the organizational ethos that guides her. This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and CryptonLINKSStudio DearbornDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including fuel surcharges, the impact of tariffs and LA’s most tasteful burglar. Later, Ernesta CEO John Foley joins the show to talk about his latest fundraise.  This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Chelsea HouseLINKSErnesta Business of Home

Remy Renzullo is a young American designer, but he’s already packed a lifetime’s worth of accomplishments into a decade-long career: being named to the AD100, collaborating with Watts 1874 on a fabric line, and decorating Castle Howard, a baroque manor house in the English countryside. Next on the list? Opening a hotel in Tuscany. On this episode of the podcast, Renzullo speaks with host Dennis Scully about why there’s a ‘no ChatGPT’ rule in his office; why he loves close, collaborative relationships with clients; and why he doesn’t have a website, and isn’t planning to make one. This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and CryptonLINKSRemy RenzulloDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including Nordic Knots’ big fundraise, RH’s dramatic earnings call, and how designers are finding opportunity in a frozen housing market. Later, GreenRow VP Jaimee Seabury joins the show to talk about Williams-Sonoma's sustainability-focused brand. This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Chelsea HouseLINKSGreenRowBusiness of Home

David Littman got into the lighting industry as a young man, acquiring a small, struggling manufacturing business. Across the span of four decades, he’s built an empire. Hudson Valley’s portfolio now includes its namesake brand plus CSL, Troy Lighting, Corbett, Mitzi, and, more recently, Sonneman and Schoolhouse.  On this episode of the podcast Littman tells host Dennis Scully about why the lighting business is leaving China, why the only weapon against dupes is new product, and why he’s looking beyond lighting at the whole home. This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and Resource FurnitureLINKSHudson Valley Lighting GroupDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including a Roman and Williams lawsuit, why home stocks are tanking, and the end of the metaverse. Later, editor Ben Reynaert joins the show to talk about his new book, The Layered Home. This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Newport BrassLINKSThe Layered HomeBusiness of Home      

Neal Beckstedt was already an accomplished designer before he went out on his own, working for Arquitectronica and serving as studio director for S. Russell Groves before finally putting up his own shingle in 2010. Since then, his tastefully warm take on modernism has won him high-profile projects and accolades in the press, including inclusion on Elle Decor’s A-List and the AD100. On this episode of the podcast, Beckstedt speaks with host Dennis Scully about why so many interior designers are Virgos, scaling his firm up and then back down again, and why great taste doesn’t happen overnight. This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and Resource FurnitureLINKSNeal BeckstedtDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including SideDoor’s next chapter, designer coworking, and a dramatic deadline for Charles Cohen. Later, author John Ota joins the show to discuss his new book, The Dining Room.   This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Newport BrassLINKSThe Dining RoomBusiness of Home

Sean Low got his start in the field running event designer Preston Bailey’s company, but after working with Vicente Wolf, he began consulting more and more with interior designers—along the way taking on Timothy Corrigan, Kevin Isbell and Nate Berkus as clients. Today Low runs a coaching business focused on helping designers reframe their firms for the better—he’s also Business of Home’s advice columnist.   On this episode of the podcast, Low speaks with host Dennis Scully about the difference between transparency and clarity, why charging what you need is better than charging what you can get, and why designers should strive to be the sun, not the moon.  This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and Resource FurnitureLINKSSean LowDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including a fundraise for Ernesta, the ethics of AI, and whether Instagram has ruined interior design. Later, Elizabeth Rees, the founder of Chasing Paper, joins the show to tell her company's story and talk about its new fabric line.   This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Newport BrassLINKSChasing PaperBusiness of Home

After an early career working at the famed Carlyle Hotel in Manhattan, Jeffrey Bilhuber burst onto the scene with his own firm, quickly becoming a prominent voice in American design. Over the course of a sparkling career, he’s been named to Elle Decor’s A-List and the AD100, won the Albert Hadley Lifetime Achievement Award, published five books, and worked with high profile clients like Davie Bowie and Iman, Michael Douglas and Anna Wintour.     On this episode of the podcast, he speaks with host Dennis Scully about why he’s glad he never worked for another firm; what young decorators need to study; and how interior design is a simple equation: 1+1 = 3 This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and Resource FurnitureLINKSJeffrey BilhuberDennis ScullyBusiness of Home  

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including the latest earnings from Arhaus and 1stDibs, a deep dive into the AD100, and whether or not good taste can be taught. Later, Luxe editor in chief Jill Cohen joins the show to talk about her ultra-exclusive new design book project.   This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Newport BrassLINKSLuxeNew York Times aging in place articleBusiness of Home

It’s difficult to quickly sum up Keith Granet’s career: he’s been a business consultant to high-profile interior designers for over three decades, but he’s also the founder of the Leaders of Design, the chairman of the board at software platform Studio Designer, and the author of several books on the design business. More recently, Granet took over the Decorative Furnishings Association, and is in the process of launching an AI symposium. On this episode of the podcast he speaks with host Dennis Scully about the six qualities successful designers share, why professional education needs to change, and what the design business will look like in 2035.  This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and Resource FurnitureLINKSDennis ScullyBusiness of Home  

Host Dennis Scully, BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus and associate editor Caroline Bourque discuss the biggest news in the design world, including the Supreme Court’s tariff ruling, highlights from KBIS and a Taylor Swift textile trademark dispute. Later, John Edelman joins the show to discuss his new role at Haworth. This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Morris & Co.  LINKSHaworthBusiness of Home

A longtime New Yorker and a media veteran, Wendy Goodman’s first job in publishing was working as Anna Wintour’s assistant at Harper’s Bazaar. After leaving the fashion world behind, she built her career in design, where she has become one of the industry’s most beloved editors, publishing conversation-starting homes week after week in the pages of New York. On this episode of the podcast, Goodman speaks with host Dennis Scully about just how much social media has changed the world; why trends are meaningless; and why, when she steps into someone’s home, she leaves her judgment at the door. This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and Sixpenny LINKSWendy GoodmanDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including a high-profile hire, Williams-Sonoma's AI ad deal, and why the uber-affluent are spending big on home security. Later, Havenly CEO Lee Mayer joins the show to talk about her acquisition of design platform The Expert.   This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Morris & Co. LINKSThe ExpertHavenlyBusiness of Home

Seth Kaplowitz occupies a unique niche, providing both legal services and career guidance for designers and design world brands alike. His client list includes some of the industry’s biggest names, but plenty of successful under-the-radar firms as well, giving him a good view of the full scope of the industry.  On this episode of the podcast, Kaplowitz speaks with host Dennis Scully about the evidence for why hourly billing is better than flat fees, what kind of press coverage really leads to new clients, and why the best thing a designer can give themselves is more options. This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and Sixpenny LINKSThe Kaplowitz GroupDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including the results of the Food52 bankruptcy auction, why designers are embracing electric kitchens and how cold weather might heat up the real estate market. Later, designer Bella Mancini joins the show to talk about elevating a partner at her firm. This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Morris & Co.LINKSMancini Burns DesignBusiness of Home

Launched in Toulouse, France in 1985, Élitis is the opposite of a heritage textile brand. Its founder, Patrice Marraud des Grottes, wanted to break with stale tradition and present vivid artistic patterns, work with new technologies, and push mills to innovate. Known for challenging conventions, Élitis was once described as an “enfant terrible” in the world of high-end French fabric and wallcovering. On this episode of the podcast, CEO of Élitis North America Olivier Thienpont chats with host Dennis Scully about the surprising resilience of the high-end market, the difference between American and French customers, and why no technological disruption can change what makes the design industry special.  This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and Sixpenny LINKSÉlitisDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including a big tariff development, a platform that aims to make purchasing easier for designers, and the rise of the one percent celebrity. Later, publicist Michael McGraw joins the show to discuss his new collectible design gallery. This episode is sponsored by Loloi and Morris & CoLINKSMcGraw PRDernier CriBusiness of Home

Raised in Beverly Hills with a film director father, Madeline Stuart made her way into design working for up-and-coming screenwriters and actors. While the movies have played an enormous part in Stuart’s career, her work has the depth of a novel—carefully studied, richly textured, and endlessly layered. Her firm has been featured on Elle Decor’s A-List and the AD100, won numerous awards, and her work is regularly featured in top publications around the world.   On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about what she calls "scavenger decorating," the highs and lows of working with celebrities, and how she learned to walk away from bad clients—as quickly as possible. This episode is sponsored by Ernesta and Sixpenny LINKSMadeline StuartDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH executive editor Fred Nicolaus discuss the biggest news in the design world, including California’s ban on digitally altered real estate listings, a look at how AI might threaten the rendering business and why Chairish’s owner keeps rejecting takeover bids.This episode is sponsored by Loloi. LINKSStump & CompanyBusiness of Home

Young Huh spent her first decade in business slowly building a firm and honing her skills. Then in 2019, her room for the Kips Bay Show House was a breakout success, taking her career to the next level. Since then, she’s been named to the AD100, and her first book, A Mood, A Thought, A Feeling comes out in March.On this episode of the podcast, she speaks with host Dennis Scully about helping to launch the Asian American Pacific Islander Design Alliance, why she handed off social media to a consultant, and why her advice to young designers is: Be patient and try everything. This episode is sponsored by ErnestaLINKSYoung HuhA Mood, A Thought, A FeelingDennis ScullyBusiness of Home

Host Dennis Scully and BOH editor in chief Kaitlin Petersen  discuss the biggest news in the design world, including the latest on tariffs, highlights from design events in Paris and London, and why a robot might be making your next sofa. Later, Lauren Hudson, Claire German and Charlotte Roberts join the show to talk about Design Destination London. This episode is sponsored by Loloi. LINKSThe Wells CompaniesDesign Centre, Chelsea HarbourDesign Destination London Business of Home

Working as an artist and designer in the San Francisco Bay Area, Serena Dugan’s chance meeting with entrepreneur Lily Kantor led to the creation of Serena & Lily in 2003. What started as a design-driven nursery bedding company grew bigger and bigger with each passing year, eventually becoming the lifestyle giant it is today. In 2017 Dugan left the brand, but she re-emerged in 2020 with a boutique textile line under her own name—now she works primarily with the trade.On this episode of the podcast she speaks with host Dennis Scully about reinventing herself after Serena & Lily, the problem with trend forecasting, and why she’ll always choose self expression over sales, every time.  This episode is sponsored by ErnestaLINKSSerena DuganDennis ScullyBusiness of Home