Caffeinated Risk
by McCreight & Leece
The monthly podcast for security professionals, by security professionals.Two self proclaimed grumpy security professionals talk security risk, how they’ve managed it in the past and forward looking discussions with guests working in information security and risk management.
Episodes
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Human Risk Factor Analysis with Carlamay Sheremata
Security systems protect the resources and mission of an organization, unlike most episodes where the impact is in dollars, this time it's the people behind the decisions. Crisis management doesn't start when the fire alarm rings and an afternoon team building activity wont repair the dynamics…
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The Summer's Over Show
Doug and Tim wrap up the summer with a look at both regulatory changes for critical infrastructure post Bill C8 and then jump across the ocean to dig into some European regulations. AI is top of mind for most and while the technology may be fascinating for some, the business consequences of bad...
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Inherent risk & business strategy with Patrick Hayes
There are few business strategy conversations in 2026 that don't include the term AI, yet like the digital "game changers" before such as mobility, voice over IP, Cloud computing and of course the internet, after the hype fundamentals still matter in business. Patrick Hayes , a cyber security...
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Designing AI Enabled Security Products with Rachelle Loyear
Our inaugural podcast guest and friend of the show Rachelle Loyear has recently released her third book, "Enterprise Security Risk Management (ESRM) in the Real World". We are adding to the Caffeinated Risk summer reading list and marking the occasion with some additional content from the May…
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Cybercrime, Intelligence and Impact with Richard LaTulip
Richard LaTulip joins Caffeinated Risk for a candid conversation connecting cybercrime investigations, threat intelligence, and practical business risk. Richard is a Field CISO with Recorded Future, a former United States Secret Service special agent, and both the author and real-life main...
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Risk Management - Enabling the pursuit of excellence with Joe Olivarez
Visiting the Jacobs Engineering website you'll undoubtedly encounter the phrase "challenging today", an acknowledgement that the world is much more complex than ever before. While "it ain't like it used to be" can be said of any risk manager's portfolio, Joe Olivarez became the first global...
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Risk conversations; Awkward, Unpopular and Essential - with Joshua Copeland
Joshua Copeland's cyber security moniker is "The Unpopular Opinion Guy", while most of us in security roles have been that person with an unpopular opinion at least a time or two, Copeland turned it into both a book and a bit of a movement through numerous posts on Linkedin about many of the...
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Cyber Security, the legal perspective with Brent Arnold
"Legal and Regulatory" is a common receptor category in most enterprise risk matrices but with any luck most organizations have limited direct experience with cyber litigation matters. This episode jumps right into the deep end with one of Canada's preeminent cyber lawyers, Brent Arnold. Business...
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Cyber Resilience, a National Solution with Herbert Fensury
Cyber crime is now a daily fact of life and a significant concern in both the private and public sectors but our response capabilities do not seem to be keeping up. This episode dives deep into one organization that is combatting this problem with a combination of academic research, industry...
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Integrated Assurance with Patrick Hayes
20 years after their paths first crossed, three Canadian security professionals regroup to discuss a new risk management strategy book based on hard won field experience. Patrick Hayes was a security strategist before organizations knew this was success differentiator. For decades he has been...
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The Summer Show - 2025, (pt 2)
Part 2 of this summer break episode takes a bit of a light hearted look at the cyber security industry predictions that become the norm in late December and early January. Eight or nine months later, how accurate where they? Take a listen, there are a couple surprises. The conversation uncovers a...
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The Summer Show - 2025, (pt 1)
The summer show started with the light hearted goal of evaluating the top security predictions that fill the internet in late December each year. Forever unscripted, Tim and Doug wind up reflecting on the growing gap between physical and virtual information systems. While it is easy to lament…
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ESRM roots, revelations & resilience with John Petruzzi
Enterprise Security Risk Management (ESRM) principles appear in almost every episode and this one is a bit more overt because it features two of the three people responsible for promoting ESRM in the early days of it's reintroduction through ASIS. John Petruzzi is now the CEO of Unlimited...
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Global Risk Management as Strategic Advantage with Dominic Bowen
The Caffeinated Risk hosts navigate time zones and catch up with Dominic Bowen traveling between meetings to discuss risk management with an international expert on the subject. Mr. Bowen is a partner and Head of Strategic Advisory at 2Secure, one of Europe's leading risk management consulting...
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Simplifying risk analysis using FAIR and Wiley Coyote with Jack Freund
A while back we were fortunate enough to spend time with Jack Freund, coauthor and thought leader responsible for bring the FAIR methodology and practice into the main stream. A bonus from that original recording is now an espresso shot discussing how to fast track an assessment when the threat...
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SMB Resilience and lessons for larger organizations with Rochelle Clarke
At 45-50%, depending on your statistical source, there is no denying that small to medium sized businesses are a significant economic engine from both an employment and innovation perspective. In 1978 Microsoft numbered 11 people. Unfortunately small businesses are also the least likely to…
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Addressing Risk and Cyber Resilience, the Alberta Approach - with Rachel Hayward
A surprising number of digital innovations began in Alberta, be it the world's first public digital cellular network in 1985, the DNP3 industrial controls protocol and becoming the first Google international research lab in 2017. CyberAlberta is another innovative collaboration focused on...
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Security Risk Management in an Open Data Environment with Michael Spaling
Ever wondered how top universities protect their cutting-edge research from prying eyes while ensuring seamless access for their scholars? Join us as Michael Spaling, Principal Security Architect at the University of Alberta, takes us behind the scenes of this high-stakes balancing act. Just like...
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Engineering, Risk Management for Cyber-Physical Systems with Andrew Ginter
The practice of engineering dates back thousands of years, incorporating science and mathematics to solve problems in the ancient world, and remains a key requirement for developing the complex digital systems controlling the physical systems core to our modern way of life. Unfortunately...
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Deviance Normalization & Risk Management with Marco Ayala
Technological change is inevitable and often one of the aspects that attracts people toward careers in information and operational technology. Although risk management is a part of navigating advancement in any area, the fundamental flaw in any management system is our human tendencies. This...
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Managing Supply Chain Risk Management - with Darren Gallop
Whether it's the NIST CSF, 8276 or the new European Cyber Resilience Act there is no denying the expectation that supply chain management (SCM) is a risk management area no organization can ignore. While SolarWinds is recent common reference in many SCM discussions, this episode's guest takes us...
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Metawar and Fostering Resilience with Winn Schwartau
Long before the Matrix captured peoples imaginations, Winn Schwartau was steadily offering red pills for those reading his many books on information warfare. A scholastic level researcher without the pretense, Mr. Schwartau has been recognized internationally as one of the leading security…
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Resilience and I.R. Lessons Learned (the hard way) - with Adam McMath
Almost all incident response plans include a "lessons learned" step, and in the post adrenalin phase that follows many breaches, reviewing what worked and what needs improving doesn't excite a lot of people. Adam McMath is clearly the exception, leading incident response activities in both the...
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ESRM a Transformation Catalyst with Radek Havlis
Amongst the industry verticals classified as critical infrastructure, few would argue that telecommunications belongs in the top that list, placing even more weight on a risk management program due to cascading impacts. Consequently, safe reliable operations are essential for success while...
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Contingency Planning, Cyber Resilience and Incident Response
Regulatory frameworks from PCI-DSS to NERC-CIP to the newly minted NIST CSF 2.0 each require organizations of all sizes to have cyber incident response plans. Most of us who have spent any time in cubicle filled office towers are familiar with fire drills to clear the building and gather staff at...
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The Business Context of Cyber Resilience with Steven J Ross
Those running a business today who have not experienced disruption due to cyber issues or attacks know it is only a matter of time. Even if their organization is not directly targeted, the modern marketplace comprised of multiple, interconnected supply chains, means impact is unavoidable but this...
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Building a Cyber Risk Management Program with Brian Allen
The U.S. Security Exchange Commission defined new rules for cyber risk matters facing publicly traded corporations in July of 2023. Although the SEC's mandate is limited to publicly traded companies in the United States, where one regulator goes others are apt to follow. Brian Allen is the...
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CyberPHA - OT Risk management With John Cusimano
The ISA 99 standards body is one of the most recognized authorities on cyber physical security covering many aspects of a cyber security management system for industrial control systems including risk management. This episode features John Cusimano, former chairman of the ISA subcommittee...
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Science, Crime and Workforce Development with Dr. Martin Gill
Security and crime are often in close proximity but not always studied together. This month's episode features Martin Gill a criminologist who made the study of crime and security his life's work. After a decade as a lecturing professor at the University of Leichester, Mr. Gill started Perpetuity...
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ESRM a Decade In and The Emergent Threat Landscape
Post GSX conference, which included an in-depth review of ESRM and an interview with former U.S. president George W Bush, this episode considers how enterprise security risk management has stood the test of time as well as how risk analysis will need to evolve . Financial receptors can be found…
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Business Enablement using Converged Risk Management with Michael Lashlee
The convergence buzzword has come and gone and some organizations have struggled to reap the benefits of physical and cyber security departments working in tandem toward common goals. Michael Lashlee, deputy Chief Security Officer at Mastercard, shares security insights from the US Marines…
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Interpreting Risk within a Regulatory Context with Terry Freestone
Calgary was an ICS cyber hub before most knew such measures were necessary, Terry Freestone was one of the ICT specialists from those early days who now applies his decades of hard-won knowledge in the offices of the Canadian Energy Regulator. Speaking as a private citizen and cyber security…
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2023 Summer Show
Keeping up the accidental annual tradition Tim and Doug take a retrospective look at risk management as a mid-year pulse. The 10th annual Cyberthreat Defense report forms the underlying theme but digging under the statistics to analyze how these might pertain to ESRM. Communication also popped up...
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ESRM and Data Science with Rachelle Loyear
One of the original authors of the ESRM framework, now in it's tenth year, and Caffeinated Risk's first guest returns to discuss how data science is changing security and risk management. While alchemy may be a bit of a stretch, Ms. Loyear ongoing focus of including human behaviour in the risk...
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Attack Tree Calibration with Terry Ingoldsby
Threat modeling expert and inventor of one of the world's first attack tree modeling products talks about how to integrate subject matter expertise into the risk equation, the answer may be surprising. Bonus content not included in the original interview with Terry which dove deep into the…
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FAIR and ESRM, exploring common ground with Jack Freund
Factor Analysis of Information Risk (FAIR) and Enterprise Security Risk Management (ESRM) took different evolutionary paths yet share a lot more commonality than catchy 4 letter acronyms and mainstream adoption by notable organizations like NIST, The Open Group and ASIS international. Jack Freund...
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Cyber-Physical Convergence Revisited
In addition to hybrid work and regular time in the office being the new normal, 2023 marks the year Caffeinated Risk's co-host Tim McCreight serves as the president of ASIS international. ASIS has long been a proponent of both physical and cyber security professionalism and one of the first...
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ESRM Enablement via Location Intelligence with Alex Martonik
Realtors have long advocated "location, location, location" as a path to investment success. Fast forwarding a few generations, location intelligence applied to risk management is paying dividends well beyond real-estate and Esri is a world leader in this fascinating application of geo-spatial...
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Privacy & Toxic Data with Michelle Finneran Dennedy
A great discussion point that didn't make it to air from the original 2021. Not all data is of equal value to the organization and the viable shelf life is seldom tracked or even discussed. This espresso shot takes a humorous look at a serious question about privacy considerations during the...
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Classifying and effectively communicating enterprise security risk with Paul Mercer
Communication isn't effective until the receiver understands the message well enough to take action. That pretty much sums up the challenge facing many risk professionals today, something Paul Mercer resolved, out of necessity, by building risk management software that is proving to be a welcome...
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Redefining the risk management business partnership with Rachelle Loyear
Co-author of the original book on Enterprise Security Risk Management, it only made sense to have Rachelle be the first Caffeinated Risk guest. Like many guests, there was just too much material for a 30 minute episode. This espresso shot encore digs into that nuanced topic of truly partnering…
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Resilience as a Risk Management Strategy
Anyone with a bit of time in the security industry is well acquainted with Murphy's law but crisis management specialists are who you call when things suddenly get very real. While common security guidance advocates protection, readying your organization to weather the inevitable failure in...
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Infrastructure Resilience and Ethical Considerations
Recorded two days after the July 2022 nationwide telecom outage, co-hosts Tim and Doug explore the deeper ramifications of losing access to the very services that are so tightly integrated into our lifestyle. While the complete root cause of the Rogers' outage may never be publicly shared, most...
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GRC Program Development and Implementation with Josh Sokol
Sooner or later every risk management professional faces the hard reality that comprehensive risk management programs can't be implemented on spreadsheets. A corporate vice president mandate, minus the funding, started Josh Sokol on a journey that turned his initial platform solution into an...
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Strategies for meeting the cyber skill set challenge with Martin Dinel
Chief Information Security Officer Martin Dinel has all the same technology challenges of every other large organization. Placing Alberta in front of that CISO title brings the additional requirements of protecting government secrets, interfacing with national security, protecting financial and...
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Risk management in the cloud with Illena Armstrong
Very few organizations, from three letter agencies to the local brew pub are not using cloud services to some degree and those previously resistant had no choice once Covid 19 hit. In 2022, with global conflict, organized crime, multiple supply chain and service concerns, what is required of a...
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Cyber Crime and Risk Management Strategies with Cara Wolf
Acknowledged by IT World Canada as one of the top 20 women in cyber, Cara Wolf shares insights into the Canadian tech industry , the need for innovation and tactics for drawing senior leadership's attention to cyber security issues during a candid discussion on the changing aspects of cyber crime…
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Continuous Authentication and Risk Management with Ian Paterson
The threat landscape is evolving, if your security controls are not, the outcome is all but assured. In this episode Tim and Doug are joined by Canadian cyber security serial entrepreneur Ian Paterson, CEO of Plurilock. Mr. Paterson shares hard won insights from extensive data science research…
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Castles and Network Management with Winn Schwartau
A light hearted espresso shot with renowned information security writer Winn Schwartau and Tim McCreight discussing the serious and all too common problem of uncontrolled ingress and egress. While the first electronic firewalls may have come into vogue in the late 80's, Winn and Tim uncover...
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Unpacking the Security Value Chain - Dave Tyson
An espresso shot covering a great idea Dave Tyson originally shared in his book and discussed during our 2021 interview on identifying where security can contribute to the business value chain and some strategies for selling the benefits. With thought leaders like Dave there are many more…
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The monthly podcast for security professionals, by security professionals.Two self proclaimed grumpy security professionals talk security risk, how they’ve managed it in the past and forward looking discussions with guests working in information security and risk management.
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