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Call It What It Is
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You may know them from Grey Sloan Memorial… but did you know Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington are actually BFFs in real life?!As all besties do, they navigate the highs and lows of life together. When one of them sends out the distress signal, the other one always answers the call. Big or small, they are there for each other.And, what does that look like? A thousand pep talks. A million “I’ve got you’s.” Some urgent “I’m coming overs”…Laughing through the tears and problem solving over glasses of rose… okay, sometimes it take tequila! Because, let’s face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey’s Anatomy!Now Jessica and Camilla are opening up the friendship circle to YOU!Someone’s cheating? They got you on that.In-laws are in-lawing? Let’s get into it.Toxic friendships? Air it out.They’re on your side to help you with your concerns, talk about theirs and every once in a while bring on an awesome guest to get their take on the things that you bring them.
Episodes
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A Little Unhinged, Very Well Dressed
Camilla shows up in a bad mood and has no intention of pretending otherwise. Breakfast battles with her daughter have officially pushed her over the edge, and Jess wonders if the problem might actually be the parents. They get into morning chaos, natural consequences, and why making your kids...
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Things We Believe: Soul Pets, Ouija Boards & 401(k)s
Jessica and Camilla jump on the viral “Things I Believe” trend — except one came armed with soul-deep, woo-woo convictions and the other brought 401(k)s. They put their beliefs to the test: agree, BS, or explain yourself. Soul pets. Talking to trees. Houses that call to you. Why Target is…
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SELF CARE WITH KYLE K: Firing a therapist, Tracy Anderson is tomfoolery and The Thong song made me gay
Jess is filming 9-1-1, so Camilla summoned back a familiar spirit. Kyle K is haunting the studio, answering all your Qs with his signature dose of petty.We start where we probably should have started last time: football Hall of Fame family legacies and casually trying on Super Bowl rings in bars....
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Messy Mailbag: Grey's & 9-1-1 Secrets, Cheating Fiancées & Bad Decisions
Grey's and 9-1-1: Nashville are BACK, Camilla has a margarita in hand, and Jess may or may not have remembered hers. With both shows returning October 15, the girls are spilling a little behind-the-scenes tea. Is Jo really done with medicine? What's Ryan Phillippe doing in Nashville? And after…
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30 Years, Too-Tight Leather Pants & the Kissing Bandit
Thirty years of friendship means there are very few secrets left. Fortunately, and unfortunately, for Jess, Bonnie remembers all of them. This week, one of Jess’s dearest friends from Brown joins us to talk about what actually makes a friendship last three decades, starting with their very first...
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Kindergarten, College & the 20K Dorm Room
Jess and Camilla are on opposite ends of the back-to-school emotional spiral this week: Jess just dropped her son off at college. Camilla just sent hers off to kindergarten. Different-sized backpacks. Same car cry. Then there are the dorm rooms. Apparently, sending your kid to college now…
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No One Is Okay at the Airport
We’re back and we’re airborne, sort of. With the holiday weekend ahead we’re talking everything that’s wrong with air travel, starting with the TSA gaslighting us for two decades straight. Laptops out, laptops in, shoes on, shoes off, belt on, belt off, nobody knows the rules anymore, and…
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SELF-CARE WITH KYLE K
This week, Camilla calls in the big (tanned) guns: Kyle K. He started as her Barry’s trainer/self-care guru, infiltrated her inner circle, and now—for better or worse—he’s part of yours. Kyle promised to come in unfiltered and spill allll the tea. He delivered: Wellness. Witches. Workout lies....
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Margaritas, Prescriptions, and a Presidential Bid (Messy Mailbag #2)
Jessica and Camilla are back with round two of the Messy Mailbag, and this one gets personal. Camilla finally tells the story behind copying Jessica's glasses, and how her subscription... we mean, prescription, did her dirty. Then Jessica drops a bombshell: she might run for president, and...
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Would You Rather…The Episode We Almost Couldn’t Finish
We played Would You Rather and there is no coming back from some of these answers. A Moon flight vs. White House residency, loving what you’re great at vs. being great at what you love, Aliens vs. Zombies and then it gets unhinged in the best way. A few questions we genuinely could not finish...
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The Scaries for Summerween
Jessica's out, so Camilla brings her other, other half, husband Matt, for a spooky new spinoff called We Ride at Midnight(ish). First up is the real horror story of their family vacation to Hawaii, from a household-wide "shut up" ban gone wrong to Matt's relentless photo-taking, a stubbed toe ER...
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Parent Trap: Sleepaway Camps
Jessica shares the emotional (and logistical) rescue mission that brought her homesick camper home early. Camilla admits she is not opposed to running a background check before a sleepover. Together, they swap camp horror stories — theirs and their kids’ — unexpected triumphs, day-one allergy...
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We used to Pre-Game. Now We Play Mahjong…
54% of Americans drank less alcohol in 2025 — the steepest drop ever recorded — and Jess and Camilla have thoughts. They get into the “sober curious” movement, whether GLP-1s are quietly killing happy hour, and why Gen Z skipped the drinking-culture memo entirely. Camilla spills on her 30 days...
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The Very First MESSY MAILBAG!
The Messy Mailbag is officially OPEN! Camilla and Jessica answer your questions about stories, projects, opinions, and life updates we’ve shared on past episodes. You asked for follow-ups—they've got 'em.) Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products...
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The Premium Personality Package!
Not everyone gets the Premium Personality Package. Some people get the polished, socially acceptable version. Others get unlimited access: the tangents, the voice notes, the weird theories, and the emotional downloads. This week, Camilla and Jess are talking about who gets the full subscription,...
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Fortune Favors the Bold
Camilla tries a DIY bang trim after watching ONE TikTok. It goes about as well as you’d expect. Jessica, meanwhile, has a question that’s been top of mind: what’s the actual difference between being nice and being kind? Turns out it’s not just the word choice — it’s everything. One is armor. The...
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A New York Minute
A trip to New York, the madness of Upfronts week, and one very unfortunate memory from the Grey’s Anatomy days all collide in this episode. Jessica and Camilla swap stories from behind the scenes, including emergency fashion fixes, borrowed underwear, and a moment from more than ten years ago…
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New Dawn New Day
New name, new era, same Jess & Camilla. They are officially back! In this premiere episode, they’re unpacking the brand-new look, the chaotic photoshoot that nearly triggered a full-blown panic attack, and life updates they’ve been hoarding while they were away. Trust us when we say that you have…
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We Ride at Dawn (ish) | Coming June 18!
Hosted by actors Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington, We Ride at Dawn (ish) is your weekly dose of unfiltered conversation, real-life chaos and a peek behind the scenes. At its heart, We Ride at Dawn (ish) is a podcast about friendship, resilience and showing up- even when the ride gets messy....
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Call It with Selling Sunset’s Sandra Vergara
Is ‘Selling Sunset’ selling more lies than listings? Sofia Vergara’s sister Sandra joins Jess and Camilla to spill what’s real and what’s reality-TV fiction. She dishes on the “crafted” chaos, “directed” drama, and her so-called friendship with Chrishell. Plus, Sandra explains the truth behind…
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Call It Hot Takes, Hollywood Dreams and One Savage Frenemy
The girls get real, ridiculous and way too honest answering your fan questions. Hear their DWTS favorites, Sexiest Man Alive picks and the most chaotic chase for a 5pm first date. Plus, Camilla pitches the ultimate Grey’s storyline, and Jessica surprises the Crew with her secret dream reality…
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Furry Skims, Ageless Skin and a Tacky Christmas Trend?
No beating around the bush, Jess and Camilla call out the ‘hair on underwear’ trend, facelift fails, and the beauty treatment you SHOULDN’T try! Plus, move over Ralph Lauren…how Camilla is decking the halls her way, and why she’s OK being called ‘tacky’ when it comes to a cherished holiday...
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Call It Throuples Therapy Over a ‘Bear-y’, Scary Encounter
A backyard bear, a freaked-out Camilla and one very unfiltered husband. There’s panic, laughter and just a hint of marital chaos as the Call It Crew talk through their feelings after a surprise visitor is caught on camera in Camilla and Matt’s backyard. And…is Bigfoot real? Prepare to pick a side...
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Remembering Diane Keaton…with Kimberly Williams-Paisley
The Father of the Bride star opens up about losing her mentor and on-screen mom, Diane Keaton, and why her fondest memory with Diane didn't happen on a movie set. Kimberly also dishes on her marriage to Brad Paisley, including who made the first move, how she really feels about his love songs…
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Call It with Kimberly Williams-Paisley
What happens in Nashville... stays on the podcast! Jessica’s '9-1-1 Nashville' co-star Kimberly Williams-Paisley talks about what it’s like behind-the-scenes. Plus, the 'Father of the Bride' reveals what it’s like to be at the epi-center of all the emergencies as Nashville’s 911 operator...and…
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Call It with Anthony Hill
Grey’s Anatomy’s cardio cutie, Dr. Winston Ndugu, scrubs in to tell tales of onscreen plot twists and offscreen escapades at Grey Sloan Memorial, including his character’s close call inside the hospital’s infamous “sex closet.” Plus, he relives a “Super” night made possible by Paul Rudd…and how...
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Call It: Secrets of the Season Premieres… everything you need to know about 9-1-1 Nashville and Grey’s
Camilla and Jessica deliver all the behind-the-scenes dish on the Grey’s and 9-1-1 Nashville premieres! Find out how Jessica’s on-screen beef with LeAnn Rimes turned into an online roast. Plus, the story of a last minute 9-1-1 hire who the girls say is pure FIRE! And, from ‘Swiftie’ to ‘gifty,’...
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Call It Social Media Anxiety
Camilla and Jess have ‘thoughts’ about posting protocol. The Call it Crew debates the do’s, don’ts, and double taps of social media. Find out who checks with who for quality control and what Crew member gets post-click jitters after clicking ‘share.’ From sweaty pits to throwing fits, hear about...
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Call It with Kim Raver (Part 2)
The conversation continues, and this time Kim shares a little kiss and tell! From her on-screen smooch with Sophia Bush, to directing their love scene, Kim shares the juicy details between Teddy and Cass. Plus, what she really thinks about her character's 'I Choose Me' moment. See...
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Call It with Kim Raver
Paging Doctor Teddy! The episode you’ve been asking for is finally here! Grey’s Anatomy fan favorite Kim Raver “calls it what it is” with Camilla and Jessica, revealing secrets from our favorite fictional hospital, including which castmates bonded on screen and off. See omnystudio.com/listener…
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Call It Short & Sweet: Socialites, Spa Nights, and Skirt Heights
An ageless episode where Jessica and Camilla discuss the buzzworthy trends on TikTok. Watch out socialites, they're calling out the good, the bad, and the blowouts! Find out the dirt on the mini skirt, who likes to shimmer like a winner, and who thinks it’s time to pack up the pearls. Plus, how…
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Call It: Bad Dates, Good Gossip & One Very Revealing Storyline
The Call It Crew is not holding back in this Q&A episode! Camilla dishes on a dating disaster you have to hear RIGHT NOW! Plus, a certain anatomy-focused plotline and the parenting decision that backfired. And a bad case of the giggles on Grey's? Find out which scene had the set…
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Call It: Pumpkin Spice & Everything Nice?
Too soon? Jessica and Camilla are not on the same pumpkin flavored page when it comes to Halloween decor.Find out who's been stocking up on gourds in September as the Call It Crew tries to 'squash' a decoration debate. Is it too soon to get into the spooky spirit? Plus, the pumpkin product that...
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Call It Locking In, Glow-Up Goals, and Going Back-To-School!
New Year’s resolutions in September? It’s take two for the ‘Call It Crew’ as they share their new round of self-care goals. Hear why back-to-school season has been a ‘wake up’ call for Jessica and Camilla, and all about the red carpet reunion we’ve been waiting to see! See omnystudio.com/listener...
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Call It Short & Sweet: Fall Fashion, Suede Sneakers, & Duck Nails?
Grab your pumpkin spice latte and fall in love with this episode because Camilla and Jessica are breaking down the do's and don'ts of fall fashion. From their go-to sweaters to their favorite boots, the Call It Crew is ready for their autumn rebrand, are you? See omnystudio.com/listener for…
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Call It A Wedding, A Confession, and a Whole Lotta “Noooo!”
Jess & Camilla are diving into a Grey’s Anatomy Season Finale and things get messy. From Amelia’s runaway bride moment to a living-room C-section, nothing about this episode was low-drama. Camilla gets candid about shooting the moment her big secret comes out and getting a little “booby” on…
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Call It Short & Sweet: Vaginal Skincare, Clitter Capsules, and Major Concerns
Wait, now our privates need to look perfect?? Jess and Camilla head South and call out the wildest trend taking over the beauty industry. Hear how women are focusing on looking “vagtastic,” thanks to a new skincare craze. Does it work? Is it worth it? Plus, what in the sparkly vaginal skincare is...
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Call It: Taytay, Travis, and Our Engagement Era
We CALLED IT! Jessica saw Taylor and Travis in person and knew they were end game. From the most perfect proposal pictures EVER, to the “Say Anything” moment we all wanted for her, our resident Swifties just can’t Shake it Off! Meanwhile, is Jessica inner circle enough to get invited to the...
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Call It Short & Sweet: Family, Fights, and Four Kids
Is four the magic number? Research shows raising four kids is easier on parents, but how does our own expert/mother-of-four feel about this? Hear what Jessica calls the hardest part of parenting and why Camilla tapped out at two kids! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn…
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Call It Sex, Socialites, and Hunting Wives with Chrissy Metz
Everyone is obsessed with 'The Hunting Wives' on Netflix and SO ARE WE! Emmy-nominated actress Chrissy Metz takes us behind-the-scenes of the series that has captured country club drama like never before. From the sex scenes that will make you blush, to the comments that make Chrissy laugh out...
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Call It Short & Sweet: Booze, Boys, and Bama Rush
The algorithm has sucked Camilla into all things sorority rush week, so it’s time she and Jessica do a deep dive. Find out what the five "Bs" of recruitment are, why TikTok is obsessed, and all about those masterminding coaches during the most competitive time for sororities everywhere. Plus…
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CALL IT: Amanda Knox, Twisted Tales and Media Frenzies
It’s an Amanda Knox confession we didn’t expect. Hear what saved her from spending the rest of her life in an Italian jail, how much her young daughter knows about the painful ordeal, and the eerie advice her mom gave her that could have course corrected everything! Plus, her thoughts on studying...
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Call It Fatigue, Medical Guesswork, and a Diagnosis No One Saw Coming
So many symptoms, so few answers. Until now.Camilla shares the diagnosis that changed her life forever with thyroid specialist Dr. Izabella Wentz. Hear how easy it is to chock up symptoms to stress and our busy lives, when there could be something else going on in your body! Find out what that…
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Call It Short & Sweet: Pushover Parenting, Tough Love, and FAFO!
Camilla and her husband guide us through parenting pitfalls. Have they turned towards the “F*** Around and Find Out” approach to discipline? Or do they err on the side of gentle parenting? Plus, a confession from Matt about being taught a lesson through tough love! See omnystudio.com/listener for...
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Call It Short & Sweet: Gaslighting, Puffiness, & TikTok Docs
Wake up feeling like you burned the midnight oil even if you were in bed by 9? There might be an underlying reason behind that groggy, puffy vibe. Camilla reveals her own diagnosis, and no it’s NOT perimenopause. Hear why it could be time to stop gaslighting your own body and block the fake…
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CALL IT: Microdosing, Ozempic, and Perimenopause
You know those questions you’re too embarrassed to ask your OBGYN? Camilla and Jessica have you covered cause they’re asking all the awkward questions for you! Joined by Dr. A and Mary Alice Haney from SHE MD, no question is too cringe. From the horrors of hormone imbalance, to your real risk for...
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Call It Short & Sweet: Treatment or Torture - Scrotox, Laser Intel and Bikini Wax Confessions
No pain, no gain? Jessica and Camilla reveal the beauty treatments that feel like torture, not a treat. From getting rid of hair down there, to the facial fads that actually work…the Call It Crew is trying all the things, so you don’t have to. Plus, Jess reveals a big bikini no-no while Camilla...
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Call It Triggers, Past Boyfriends and that Coldplay Kiss Cam
Camilla and Jessica are taking control of their triggers, or at least they're trying. From the holidays that are haunting, to the songs that bring back boyfriends and breakups, we all have bullets to dodge! Hear how the ladies face their fears one trigger at a time, and what they say couples…
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Call It Short & Sweet: Fitness Fads, Gymtimidation & Workout Woes
Talk about tales from the gym! You'll never guess the 'Gleek' who always had a front row seat at SoulCycle. Plus, Camilla shares a 'Barry' funny story about a certain 90s workout. And, the ladies are CALLING OUT the biggest fitness faux-pas happening at a gym near you. See omnystudio.com/listener...
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Call It Country
Jessica is back from Tennessee and gives us the 411 on 9-1-1: Nashville. Hear how the town took her by surprise, what it means to have a moving mindset and whether or not she sees herself moving to the popular southern city. Jessica also reveals her hopes for a karaoke cameo with LeAnn Rimes, and...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
You may know them from Grey Sloan Memorial… but did you know Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington are actually BFFs in real life?!As all besties do, they navigate the highs and lows of life together. When one of them sends out the distress signal, the other one always answers the call. Big or small, they are there for each other.And, what does that look like? A thousand pep talks. A million “I’ve got you’s.” Some urgent “I’m coming overs”…Laughing through the tears and problem solving over glasses of rose… okay, sometimes it take tequila! Because, let’s face it, life can get even crazier than a season finale of Grey’s Anatomy!Now Jessica and Camilla are opening up the friendship circle to YOU!Someone’s cheating? They got you on that.In-laws are in-lawing? Let’s get into it.Toxic friendships? Air it out.They’re on your side to help you with your concerns, talk about theirs and every once in a while bring on an awesome guest to get their take on the things that you bring them.
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You may know them from Grey Sloan Memorial… but did you know Jessica Capshaw and Camilla Luddington are actually BFFs in real life?!As all besties do, they navigate the highs and lows of life together. When one of them sends out the distress signal, the other one always answers the call. Big or...
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