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Chaotic Harmony Classroom
by Chaotic Harmony podcast produced by Crystal Pridmore and Jonathan Seligman.
The Chaotic Harmony Podcast is created for elementary music teachers by elementary music teachers. The podcast chronicles the genesis and continued development of four music programs in Southern California by Crystal Pridmore and Jon Seligman. Each of theses educators is working in schools 5-10 miles from the US/ Mexico border in schools with high rates of poverty that had not supported music education programs for more than the previous three decades. They share the joys and challenges of teaching music in the elementary school music room. https://www.chaoticharmonyclassroom.com
Episodes
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109: Remember COVID?? Reflecting on the Past 5 Years - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Where were you when the world shut down? March 13th marks the 5th year anniversary of COVID in the US. Jamie, Jasmine, Jonathan, and Sasha reflect on where they were five years ago, the WILD stories of online learning/teaching, and what they've gained from the pandemic. Don't forget to cast your...
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108: Good Enough is Not Enough for Our Students - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Sasha is back! She shares her story of growing up with a learning disability and how that affects how she approaches teaching. Don't forget to cast your vote on the Video Game For the Music Class Fantasy Draft (ends March 10 2025): forms.gle/JAvXwWowhPiSFRjJ9 Our Social Media: @CHClassroom Find…
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107: Parent Perspective - Dr. Kirin Macapugay on Community Organizing & the Arts - Chaotic Harmony
Professor at SDCC, community organizer, and parent of Jonathan's students: Dr. Kirin Macapugay joins the chat! This is a very thoughtful episode, where Kirin talks about the value of our work, how to advocate for music education, and the difficulty of being a community organizer while being a...
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Episode 102: AOSA Recap - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Come on and feel the Duh Mwahh! Crystal, Jonathan, and Rodnalyn chat about our experiences on the latest Orff Conference - at Des Moines, IA. We share our thoughts, our favorite sessions, and what we’d love to see from next year. We have some friends from across the country share their thoughts...
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101: Creating the Best List of Video Game Music for the Class pt 1 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Let's have some fun! Today, Jonathan and guests from AROSA bring what they think are the best soundtracks from video games that align with the 8 Laban Efforts. Who decides what's the best? YOU DO! (After Part 2 comes out). So listen as we four bring some great video game music to you! Song of the...
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Episode 100: Backwards Planning and the Power of Performance in Elementary Music Education - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
What is backward planning? How DO you get your students to have something presentable for an audience? And shows are a lot of work… why even put ourselves through all of it? This week, Jon and Crystal tackle how to plan lessons that lead to a performance to be proud of. Spiccato: Wrapping Paper...
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Episode 99: Fall Break and Jon are Awesome - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
This week we are BACK from fall break. Jon and Crystal recap our vacation adventures. We also celebrate Jon Seligman being named a Music Teacher of Excellence by the Country Music Association! He flew out to Nashville, TN for the awards ceremony. Jon has also been busy here at home attending the...
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Episode 98: What the TK? How Do We Approach Transitional Kindergarten - Ep 98 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Crystal and Jon are back! Today, we discuss TK. Transitional Kindergarten! We talk about what it is (because not all states have it universally), why it is, and how it is. If you teach TK or PreK, or your district is moving that direction, this is an episode for you! Let us know your thoughts!...
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What Are the Barriers in Education with Rachel Pac - Ep 97
Today, Rachel Pac joins the chat! She talks about her deep perspective as a young educator, sharing what it was like taking undergrad online amidst COVID and sharing the barriers of becoming a music educator - especially for teachers of color. It's a great talk, so do join us! Our Social Media:...
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Bonus! Chat with the Admin with Pauline Crooks - Ep 96.5
Oh hey! We have a bonus episode. Here, Jonathan talks with Pauline Crooks and her perspective as an admin. She shares about the annual Mega Arts Conference that's coming up and the importance of connecting with everyone on your team as an arts educator. Come join us! Sign up for Mega Arts...
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Episode 96: Back To School ‘24 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Jon and Crystal are back in the classroom and back podcasting for season six! We talk about changes at our schools and our favorite back to school activities and procedures. Spiccato: foam roller Round of the Week: Follow Me Our Social Media: @CHClassroom Find Us on Instagram, Twitter or Youtube...
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Digging Deeper In Dalcroze & Orff With Olivia Ramirez - Ep 95 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Welcome back! Olivia Ramirez joins the chat, talking about her journey of being an educator and her life-long passion of becoming a better teacher. Her insight is deep - come join us! Our Social Media: @CHClassroom Crystal Pridmore: @mrs.pridmore Jonathan Seligman: @mrSeligman Olivia Ramirez:...
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Episode 94: Level UP with Joshua Block & Betsy Sebring - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Joshua Block & Betsy Sebring, the fabulous AOSA Teacher Educators leading this year’s Chula Vista Level 2 course, join us to share their own music education journey. Spiccato: Stick Unicorn Round of the Week: Derry Ding Dong Dason Our Social Media: @CHClassroom Find Us on Instagram, Twitter or...
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Episode 93: Bye Marc! Again? Season 5 Wrap Up - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
We're wrapping up our last school days of the 2023-2024 school year. We share our own traditions and routines for the final classes of the year. AND Marc is back with a big life update! Round of the Week: Summertime by Rob DelGaudio Our Social Media: @CHClassroom Find Us on Instagram, Twitter or...
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Episode 92: Learning Intentions and Success Criteria - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Admin love them, teachers love to hate them. Do those “I can” statements hold any value? Our opinion has evolved over the last few years. Spiccato: bubble wrap Round of the week: Hotaru Koi Our Social Media: @CHClassroom Find Us on Instagram, Twitter or Youtube Crystal Pridmore: @FinneyVAPA...
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Episode 91 - What We Wish We Knew as New Teachers - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Funny how most of the lessons we learn as teachers are learned in the School of Hard Knocks. This week we share what we wish we had known as new teachers. Spiccato: Origami paper Round of the Week: Frere Jacqus in a minor key Our Social Media: @CHClassroom Find Us on Instagram, Twitter or Youtube...
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Reflections on NAMM from 8 Music Educators - Ep 90 - Chaotic Harmony Classroom
We've been sitting on it for a while, but here it is! Our thoughts on NAMM. Actually, 8 peoples' thoughts on NAMM. We interview Darlene Machacon, EJ Villanueva, Anna Ambata, Rhegan Lesher, Marc Keehmer, and Nora Hernandez to share their thoughts on the amazing trade show. We'd love to hear your...
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Episode 89: Upper Elementary Solutions (Centers!) Chaotic Harmony Podcast
We’ve said it before- our upper elementary students are COMPLETELY different than their lower grade counterparts. We almost have to become a completely different person when we teach 4th-6th graders. What does that look like for us? What are we working on to engage them? Spiccato: What Do You…
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Episode 88: Holy Behavior Issues, Batman! Chaotic Harmony Podcast
This week, Crystal and Jonathan talk about what went well during our winter concerts, what we want to focus on in 2024, and how we can find some joy in our work and personal lives this year. As always, we look into ways we can work more rest and balance into our busy lives. Spiccato: The World’s...
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Equity, Music, and Publishing with F-Flat Books Sarah Gulish - Episode 87 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Dr. Sarah Gulish from F-Flat Books joins Crystal and Jon this week! While at NAMM, we discuss her business, how she strives to uplift differing voices and bring equity to a broken system. Spiccato: Drumstick Pens Round of the Week: Grandma Moses Our Social Media: @CHClassroom Find Us on…
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Student Ensembles and General Music: An Impossible Balance? - Episode 86 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
It’s a common story- one elementary music teacher is expected to teach general music, choir, and instrumental ensembles. This comes with many challenges, and we talk about what that means in our teaching lives. When we strive for excellence, what does that look like when we are stretched too…
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Episode 85 Student Teachers Looking Back & Looking Ahead in 2024 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
This week, Crystal and Jonathan talk about what went well during our winter concerts, what we want to focus on in 2024, and how we can find some joy in our work and personal lives this year. As always, we look into ways we can work more rest and balance into our busy lives. Spiccato: The World’s...
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Thoughts on AOSA 2023 and Flying Cows - Episode 84 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
This week on Chaotic Harmony, Crystal and Jon catch us up on their teaching lives as well as AOSA Conference! There was a ton to experience and both brought some valuable thoughts and wishes for the future. Song of the Week: "We Are Young" by Eric Dozier Spiccato: Solar Powered Calculators Our...
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Episode 83 - Student Teachers How to Succeed if You are One or Have One - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
If you've ever hosted a student teacher, you know it's an exciting challenge to help someone launch into their new career. We talk about the lessons we've learned as we've hosted student teachers, reflect on things we learned when we WERE student teachers, and share our goals for the teachers we...
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Episode 82 - Season Five Kickoff - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
It's a brand new school year! Jon and Crystal have been hard at work and are nearly finished with Quarter 1 in our year-round schools. We catch up on our summers and talk about our goals for the coming school year. Round of the Week: Sneakers by David Thaxton Spiccato: Plastic Spoons Our Social...
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Summer Break 2023 Episode 81 Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Marc is back to talk with Jon and Crystal about how the 2022/2023 school year wrapped up. We talk about some of the challenges we faced individually and as a team this year, and how we need to take the time to rest and dream this summer so we are ready to imagine a new way forward. Round of the...
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Chaotic Harmony Road Trip: Crystal and Jon Present for ARAOSA Episode 80 Chaotic Harmony Podcast
This week we talk about our workshop with the American River Orff Schulwerk Association. Crystal and Jon have a Chula Vista flavored take on the Orff process. We break down what that looks like for us in our corner of the world. Round of the Week: Aiken Drum Spiccato: Chip bags and water bottles…
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Make it Better: What We Want to See at NAMM & the CVESD VAPA Festival 79 Chaotic Harmony Podcast
This has been a busy week for us! Jon produced the CVESD VAPA Festival with a record 26 schools participating this year. We celebrated elementary bands, choirs, orchestras, Orff ensembles, theater groups, dance groups, digital arts classes, and visual art programs on all across the district....
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Focus on 4th-6th Grade Episode 78 Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Our 4th, 5th, and 6th graders need different things emotionally and academically than Kindergarten-3rd graders. How have their needs changed in the last three years? What can we do as teachers to help them feel safe in the general music space? Spiccato: Ghungroo Bells Round: Sing Sing Together…
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Catch Up Episode 76 Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Jon and Crystal are back to talk about how things are going in this new quarter. We’ve had new challenges with life and students. How have we changed as teachers, and how do we continue to move forward in our new post pandemic reality? Spiccato: wearable Cajon https://lousondrums.com/ Round: Hey…
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Bunker Babies- Why are the Kids Losing it More Than Usual? Episode 74 Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Student behaviors everywhere are escalating. Teachers have to deal with more challenges than ever before. This week, we talk about why that is and how we can address it. Spiccato: Silver Bells Round of the Week: Cuddly Koalas Our Social Media: @CHClassroom Find Us on Instagram, Twitter or Youtube...
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Why Magnet Charts Suck and What Works Better - Episode 75 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
It is harder than ever to figure out how to get students to follow classroom rules and procedures, but we DO know what is not working well. This week, we talk about the old systems that we had in place that did not serve us well and what we are doing better these days. Spiccato: Spot it Game…
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AOSA Conference 2022 Recap - Episode 73 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
This week we talk about AOSA Conference in Kansas City, and recap sessions from presenters Aaron DeWayne, BethAnn Hepburn, David Thaxton, Rob Amchin, Matthew Stensreud, Victor Lozada, Brandi Waller-Pace, Aaron Williams, Paul Weller, and Drue Bullington. Spiccato: Clothes Pins Round of the Week:...
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Pursuing Excellence with Josh Southard - Episode 72 -Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Crystal and Jon welcome Josh Southard, music teacher for Smoky Row Elementary in Carmel, Indiana, and President Elect of the American Orff Schulwerk Association. We talk about how pursuing excellence as an elementary music teacher makes sense, even if the financial incentive is not necessarily...
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Engaging the Disengaged Kiddos - Episode 71 -Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Crystal and Jon talk about how to help reach students who don’t easily engage in the lessons offered in music class. How do we get students who give up easily to keep going? How do we help students have fun when learning can be painful? We don’t have lots of solutions, but we do have a few...
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Catchin' Up on our Systems - Episode 70 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
This week Crystal and Jon talk about how they’ve processed the 2021/22 school year, and what their goals are for this one. This episode is all about systems, systems, systems! Round of the Week: Jaws Spiccato: Levels Our Social Media: @CHClassroom Find Us on Instagram, Twitter or Youtube Crystal...
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She Looks Like Family: Tiffany Barry On Supporting Teachers of Color -Ep 69- Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Tiffany Barry joins us today, talking about an article she wrote for the Orff Echo: "AOSA's Teachers of Color." Today, we talk about her story, teaching being more than just pedagogy, and advocacy for teachers as people. It's a lot and a wonderful talk. Come join us! Round of the Week: "Guten...
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How 2020-21 Wrapped Up with Marc Keehmer - Episode 68 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Jon and Crystal welcome back Marc to talk about how the rest of the school year went, what our plans are for the summer, and what Marc wants to see happen in music education next school year. Round of the Week: "I like to take my time" Fred Rogers Spiccato: Rubber Chickens Our Social Media:...
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Darlene and Nora p2: What Really Is SEL and How Do We Use It? - Episode 67- Chaotic Harmony Podcast
We're back! All four of us! Darlene Machacon and Nora Hernandez from Coloring the Melody Podcast are back to chat about... what actually is SEL and how do we use it? We also talk about the standards and cultural representation. The light stuff. Come join us! Round of the Week: "Sitting Here In...
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Darlene and Nora p1: How to Be Advocates and Set Boundaries - Episode 66 Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Darlene Machacon and Nora Hernandez from Coloring the Melody Podcast join the table! We talk about their backstory, about communal music, about how to set boundaries while being an advocate online, and... a lot more. Too much to fit into one podcast so be sure to check part two next week! Round…
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Therapist Michelle Chan on Relationships, Race, and Weird Noises - Episode 65 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Crystal and Jon travel to talk with Michelle Chan, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. Here, they chat about relationships with the kid at the center: how to create safe spaces and how to address hard topics such as race and trauma. Round of the Week: The Cup Song Spiccato: "My Invisible...
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Beg, Borrow, and Steal Your Way to Great Teaching - Episode 64 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Crystal talks about a blog post she recently published on the ACEMM website in collaboration with Lisa Sempsey. Lisa recalled a conference session she attended as a new teacher in which the presenter encouraged participants to beg, borrow, and steal ideas from other teachers as they grew in their...
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Elements of a Great Teacher - Episode 63 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Crystal talks about the article she co-wrote with Drue Bullington for the Winter 2022 Orff Echo. She and Jon unpack the content and discuss what makes a great educator. Round of the Week: Join Me in Our Circle, folk song, lyrics Crystal Pridmore Spiccato: Dominos Drue Bullington...
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Jesse Rogers 2: Bringing Midi into the Classroom - Episode 62 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Jesse is back this week to share in detail his process for creating a collaborative all-school album with his students. How do they take part in the digital audio workshop and learn how to build songs? Round of the Week: Track from Jesse’s Album- Pajamas All the Time Spiccato: Lego Minifigures…
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Jesse Rogers 1: The Future of Music Education is NOT Traditional Ensembles - Episode 61 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Jesse Rogers talks about building his music program at a different site than he was working for when we last talked to him in 2019. He is passionate about involving as many students as possible in the music making process, and he’s doing that through music production. Band Lab Chrome Music Lab...
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Stuff We Didn’t Learn in our Undergrad or Credential Programs - Episode 60 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Our undergrad and credential programs tried to prepare us to enter the classroom, but we both had plenty left to learn when we started teaching. In this episode, we talk about what we wish we had known before we got our full time teaching jobs. Spiccato: Shoebox Round of the Week: Walking Walking...
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Absences and COVID Protocols and Sub Shortages Oh My! - Episode 59 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
This week we talk about the pile of challenges educators are facing. From large numbers of student absences to staff absences to the sub shortage to changing COVID protocols, this year has lead to an epic teacher struggle. We are here to let you know that we’re right there in it with you,...
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Jessandra and Leah Part 2 - Episode 58 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Jessandra and Leah are back to talk about the challenges they have faced this school year and the joys that keep them going. They also share words of wisdom for people entering their first year teaching this next school year. Spiccato: Butterfly/ TidePool Nets Round of the Week: Frog in the Bog…
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Jessandra And Leah Part 1- When Your 1st Year Teaching Is Online - Episode 57 - Chaotic Harmony Podcast
Jessandra and Leah join us this week to talk about starting their teaching careers in 2021 after experiencing student teaching during distance learning due to COVID quarantine. We learn how these passionate teachers decided to make music education their professional paths. Spiccato: Rice Paddle...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The Chaotic Harmony Podcast is created for elementary music teachers by elementary music teachers. The podcast chronicles the genesis and continued development of four music programs in Southern California by Crystal Pridmore and Jon Seligman. Each of theses educators is working in schools 5-10 miles from the US/ Mexico border in schools with high rates of poverty that had not supported music education programs for more than the previous three decades. They share the joys and challenges of teaching music in the elementary school music room. https://www.chaoticharmonyclassroom.com
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Chaotic Harmony podcast produced by Crystal Pridmore and Jonathan Seligman.
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