Checkup Podcast with Katie and Alan

In this podcast episode, the host, Alan, discusses productivity and managing distractions with special guest Dr. Robert Greve, Associate Dean of the Meinders School of Business at Oklahoma City University. Dr. Greve shares insights from his research on knowledge worker productivity, focusing on the impact of email interruptions and strategies for managing them, such as batching emails and setting email hours. They explore the importance of setting goals, forming habits around those goals, and making strategic choices to enhance productivity. The conversation also touches on the significance of having a personal mission statement, setting priorities, and establishing actionable steps toward achieving goals. Furthermore, Dr. Greve emphasizes the need for adopting habits that are both feasible and desirable, and suggests rethinking one's approach to productivity to ensure it adds value both personally and organizationally. The episode highlights practical tips for listeners to manage their time, energy, and focus more effectively, ultimately leading to more productive and fulfilling lives. 00:00 Unlocking Productivity: Habits, Goals, and Leadership Insights 00:23 Special Guest Introduction: Dr. Robert Greve's Journey and Insights 03:55 The Battle Against Email Overload and Distraction 08:56 Strategies for Managing Interruptions and Enhancing Focus 10:30 Practical Tips for Email Management and Meeting Scheduling 19:38 The Power of Externalization and Prioritization 39:05 Personal Mission Statements and the Path to Productivity 47:16 Final Thoughts and Encouragement

This podcast episode features an insightful discussion between Drake, the show's producer, and Alan, exploring the significant challenges faced by healthcare professionals post-COVID. They delve into how the healthcare landscape is currently stressed and stretched, emphasizing the importance of understanding organizational and individual perspectives to tackle issues effectively. Key topics include the impact of burnout, the significance of creating a resilient and positive organizational culture, the necessity of self-care among healthcare workers, and the importance of engagement and communication within healthcare organizations. Moreover, the conversation touches on generational changes, the evolving demands on healthcare systems, and practical advice for navigating change and fostering a supportive environment for both patients and healthcare providers. The episode concludes on an optimistic note, highlighting the numerous opportunities for improvement in healthcare and encouraging professionals to articulate their needs and collaborate for a better future. 00:00 The Impact of Burnout on Healthcare Workers 00:27 A New Perspective: Producer Takes the Mic 01:08 Navigating the Post-COVID Healthcare Landscape 03:35 Addressing Burnout: Strategies for Resilience 05:00 The Power of Self-Reflection in Healthcare Professionals 13:16 Cultivating a Supportive Culture in Healthcare 14:03 Generational Dynamics in the Healthcare Workforce 17:43 The Critical Role of Culture in Addressing Workforce Shortages 37:06 Embracing Change and Opportunity in Healthcare 42:25 Efficiency and Patient Care: The Pharmacy Perspective 45:13 Concluding Thoughts: Challenges and Opportunities

In this episode, hosts Katie and Alan delve into the concept of personal stories and the significance they hold in both individual lives and organizational contexts. They start by discussing the ease of transitioning between seasons, both literally and metaphorically, and how personal development is similar to changing weather patterns. They emphasize that everyone has a memorable story, challenging the notion that some narratives are mundane or less significant compared to others. Drawing on personal experiences, including Katie's battle with cancer and Alan's transformative experience of public speaking in high school, they argue that every personal journey, no matter how small it may seem, contributes to one's story. They also touch upon the deceptive nature of comparing hardships and successes to others and the importance of unpacking and owning one's narrative. The conversation further explores how personal stories are integral in the professional realm, particularly in healthcare, where organizational narratives can create strong connections and motivate teams. They stress the power of storytelling in maintaining the 'why' of an organization or team, and how shared narratives can foster a cohesive and inspired group dynamic. Finally, they provide listeners with actionable advice on how to uncover, articulate, and celebrate their personal and professional stories, encouraging a mindful exploration of what fuels passion and purpose. 00:00 Opening Banter: Weather Changes and Life Transitions 01:28 Introducing the Theme: The Power of Personal Stories 02:35 Exploring Personal Stories and Their Impact 04:06 The Importance of Believing in Your Own Story 04:25 Simon Sinek's Insights on Storytelling 05:28 Connecting Personal and Professional Stories 06:28 Reflecting on Personal Growth and Story Development 18:34 Overcoming Limiting Beliefs and Embracing Your Story 27:51 Practical Steps to Unraveling Your Story 32:23 The Role of Declarative Statements in Shaping Your Story 41:02 Applying Storytelling to Healthcare Teams and Organizations 45:47 Concluding Thoughts and the Journey Ahead

This podcast episode features a conversation with Heather, a pharmacist supervisor from Los Angeles, who shares her journey of personal growth, the challenges of balancing professional and personal life, and the importance of self-discovery and community engagement. The hosts, Katie and Alan, delve into topics such as the struggle with abrupt transitions, the impact of self-care, mentoring, and finding energy-giving activities. Heather emphasizes the importance of patience and intentionality in personal and career development, highlights the value of coaching and deep conversations, and suggests ways to navigate meetings efficiently. The conversation also explores how understanding oneself through tools like the Enneagram can enrich a person's journey. The episode concludes with Heather's insights on the excitement of transition, the long-term nature of meaningful change, and the significance of not going through life's journey alone. 00:00 Introduction and Guest Arrival 01:26 Guest Introduction and Background 06:18 The Importance of Community and Connection 08:36 Understanding Personality Types and Their Impact 10:21 The Power of Intentionality and Energy Management 13:44 The Journey of Self-Discovery and Personal Growth 19:07 The Role of Empathy and Connection in Leadership 24:37 The Challenge of Transitions and Time Management 28:37 The Value of Fun and Play in Personal Well-being 30:35 The Power of Superpowers and Self-Awareness 35:44 The Struggle with Inefficient Meetings 39:31 The Importance of Physical Health in Professional Life 47:37 The Journey of Change and Transition 52:44 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

The episode discusses the impact of stress on healthcare professionals and ways to navigate it. The hosts, Katie and Alan, share their experiences with stress and how it affects their work and personal lives. They explore the manifestations of stress, ranging from reduced motivation to catastrophic thinking. They highlight the importance of self-awareness in identifying stress sources and managing them effectively. They also touch upon the societal expectation to wear stress as a 'badge of honor,' particularly in healthcare environments, and the potential negative implications of this perspective. Moreover, they stress the significance of constant self-check-ins, joyful activities, and relational support as strategies to manage and alleviate stress. 00:00 Understanding Stress and Its Impact 01:45 Recognizing Stress in Our Lives 03:22 How Stress Manifests in Our Behavior 04:16 The Impact of Stress on Personal and Professional Life 05:05 The Role of Self-Awareness in Managing Stress 06:10 The Consequences of Ignoring Stress 11:25 How Stress Affects Our Performance 19:28 The Importance of Addressing Stress 25:58 The Role of Others in Managing Our Stress 34:00 The Impact of Stress on Our Relationships 37:19 Strategies for Managing Stress 40:16 The Importance of Self-Care in Stress Management 47:15 Conclusion: The Role of Joy in Stress Management

The podcast discusses in detail the superpowers and liabilities of Enneagram types five, six, and seven. The hosts discuss the self-sufficiency and objectivity of fives, the safety and problem-solving focus of sixes, and the positivity, creativity, and high energy of sevens. They examine how, when overused, these strengths can become liabilities, such as fives dismissing anything beyond data and facts, sixes becoming problem seekers, and the fast pace of sevens leading to superficial solutions. They stress the importance of recognizing and managing these potential pitfalls while leveraging strengths for personal and workplace success. 00:00 Introduction to Superpowers and Liabilities 00:29 Casual Conversation and Introduction to the Episode 02:46 Understanding Liabilities and Superpowers 05:18 Superpowers of Type Five 11:35 Superpowers of Type Six 14:16 Superpowers of Type Seven 21:55 Transition to Liabilities 23:58 The Pressure of Information Overload 24:28 The Struggle of Decision Making 24:56 The Importance of Collaboration 25:21 The Pitfalls of Isolation 25:42 The Balance Between Knowledge and Action 26:23 The Role of Relational Connectivity in Healthcare 27:49 The Challenge of Balancing Data and Emotion 28:47 The Danger of Self-Deprecation 30:38 The Struggles of Type Six 33:32 The Problem of Rigidity 34:01 The Issue of Distrust 36:14 The Challenges of Type Seven 38:45 The Risk of Burnout 42:10 The Power and Pitfalls of the Enneagram 45:07 Preview of Upcoming Episodes

Katie and Alan discuss the major attributes connected to the Heart Triad in the Enneagram (Types 2, 3, and 4). They point out their abilities and superpowers which include: empathy and understanding for Type 2, achieving goals and work ethic for Type 3, and a deep emotional understanding and authenticity for Type 4. They also identify potential liabilities for each type, emphasizing the need for self-awareness and balance in embodying these traits. They particularly emphasize the duality of holding both positive attributes (superpowers) and negative traits (liabilities) simultaneously. They further emphasize the importance of self-awareness, practice, and inviting feedback to ensure that these types can contribute their best to their teams and personal lives. The hosts talk about the need to establish a healthy culture that recognizes and appreciates the emotional strengths of the Heart Triad. Show Notes 00:00 Introduction to the Heart Triad 03:55 The Superpowers of Type 2 06:56 The Superpowers of Type 3 09:28 The Superpowers of Type 4 14:13 Understanding the Liabilities of Each Type 14:36 Recognizing and Addressing Liabilities in Type 2 20:51 Recognizing and Addressing Liabilities in Type 3 27:09 Recognizing and Addressing Liabilities in Type 4 34:33 The Importance of Self-Awareness and Feedback 39:34 Conclusion: Embracing Both Superpowers and Liabilities

In this podcast episode, hosts Alan and Katie dive deep into the Enneagram's gut triad types (8, 9, and 1), examining their respective strengths (superpowers) and drawbacks (liabilities) within a healthcare setting. Type 8 is described as being active and driven, capable of rallying others and facing difficulties head-on. However, they can neglect detailed thinking and display overconfidence, and their intensity may intimidate others. Type 9's superpower lies in their ability to connect with others, maintaining harmony and ensuring inclusion. The downside of this type is their tendency to blend in, neglecting their own identity and the risk of becoming paralyzed by consensus-seeking, and in putting others first. Type1 is discussed as embodying high levels of integrity and passion for perfection, providing meticulous care and clear communication. However, their rigidity, constant pursuit for perfection, and an extreme work pace may cause self-contempt, instill a perception of being unyielding and potentially cause burnout. Both hosts share personal insights and strategies for managing these potential liabilities. 00:00 Introduction to Superpowers in Healthcare 00:28 The Power of Conversation: A Casual Chat 01:08 Revisiting the Enneagram: The Gut Triad 07:13 The Superpowers of Enneagram Type 8 10:30 The Superpowers of Enneagram Type 9 14:06 The Superpowers of Enneagram Type 1 18:16 Exploring the Liabilities of Enneagram Types 25:12 The Liabilities of Enneagram Type 8 28:51 The Liabilities of Enneagram Type 9 35:53 The Liabilities of Enneagram Type 1 44:10 Practical Strategies for Balancing Superpowers and Liabilities 48:06 Conclusion: The Power of Self-Awareness and Growth

In this personal and introspective discussion, the hosts Alan and Katie explore the theme of loneliness and despair and their impact on personal and professional life. Often termed as 'The Pit of Despair', this emotional state can be triggered by feelings of incompetency, lack of self-worth, or unemployment. The hosts share personal stories and experiences coupled with the wisdom they have derived from them. They emphasize the importance of reaching out to others, being present in the moment, and offering specific and personal encouragement to those in need. Alan, in particular, talks candidly about his struggles, and how the help from mentors, counselors, and close circles played an invaluable role in his journey of healing and growth. The podcast concludes on a hopeful note implying that with courage, humility, support from others, and intentional practices, one can navigate through their 'Pit of Despair'. 00:00 Introduction to the Pit of Despair 00:39 The Pain of Loneliness in Leadership 04:40 Personal Struggles with Loneliness 10:17 The Impact of Loneliness on Competency 19:49 The Struggle with Unemployment and Self-Value 28:13 The Role of Others in Overcoming Loneliness 38:37 Practical Steps to Escape the Pit of Despair 45:37 Conclusion: The Power of Encouragement and Hope

In this podcast, the hosts discuss the concept of embracing imperfections and finding beauty in them. They elaborate on the idea, citing the Japanese art concept of finding beauty in imperfections. With various self-reflective questions about fear, hiding, and proving oneself, they explore how confronting and embracing imperfections can lead to personal growth and better work life, particularly in healthcare. They also touch upon the role of the Enneagram in understanding their reactions to imperfections and its implications. The conversation ends on the note of appreciating people for who they are, rather than what they do. 00:00 Understanding the Concept of Imperfections 02:14 The Impact of Imperfections on Work 03:21 The Journey of Dealing with Perfectionism 09:20 The Beauty of Imperfections: A Japanese Perspective 10:28 The Role of Imperfections in Personal Growth 14:46 The Consequences of Embracing Imperfections 21:28 The Challenge of Unlearning and Embracing New Perspectives 28:30 The Role of Coaching in Embracing Imperfections 30:49 The Connection Between Embracing Imperfections and Achieving Goals 36:57 Understanding Self-Preservation and Its Impact on Change 42:48 Conclusion: The Next Steps in Embracing Imperfections

In this episode, the hosts discuss the Peace Index, a tool that tracks peace and wellbeing across five key areas: Purpose, Place, People, Financial and Physical Health. They emphasize that progress not perfection, is the goal in this journey. They share how changes or lack thereof, in their own Peace Indices influenced their paths and decisions, citing examples in professional shifts, investments in aesthetic spaces, and health adjustments. They stress the importance of awareness, intentionality, tangible steps and accountability, providing insights into cultivating peace in the interconnectedness of these life areas. 00:00 Introduction to the Peace Index 05:55 Understanding the Five Areas of the Peace Index 08:18 Exploring the Purpose Index 09:17 Diving into the Place Index 09:44 Unpacking the People Index 09:44 Discussing the Financial Index 10:16 Examining the Personal Health Index 13:56 Applying the Peace Index in Real Life 34:38 The Impact of Disruptions on the Peace Index 49:47 Conclusion: The Power of the Peace Index

In this podcast episode, Alan and Katie discuss the importance of crafting a personal vision and provide a step-by-step process on how to create one. They encourage listeners to dream big and embrace change, highlighting the importance of self-assessment and self-awareness in charting a future course. Key points include recognizing the things that energize and excite you, seeking feedback from trusted individuals when refining your vision, the role of a coach in implementing your vision, and the necessity of taking tangible next steps towards actualizing your vision. They also discuss potential challenges such as overcoming limiting beliefs and managing expectation in the visioneering journey. 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage 00:28 Podcast Conversation Begins 02:14 Unpacking the Concept of Vision 06:22 The Importance of Dreaming in Vision Crafting 09:59 Defining Vision and Embracing the Process 13:14 Sharing Personal Experiences with Vision Crafting 27:56 The Role of Disruption in Vision Crafting 34:34 Implementing and Revisiting Your Vision 46:18 Final Thoughts and Wrap Up

Alan and Katie dive into a deep conversation about setting and approaching New Year's resolutions, goals, and apprehending limiting beliefs. They explore the self-awareness that drives goal-setting and the role of inner dialogue in pursuing or inhibiting these goals, underscoring the importance of a healthy mindset. The duo also touch on the relationship between perceived failures and self-contempt, alluding to the need for self-appreciation even amidst apparent shortcomings. A significant focal point is the discussion around 'Big Hairy Audacious Goals' in comparison to the 'word of the year' approach in setting goals. Finally, they touch on the importance of keeping an open perspective in case unforeseen goals find their way in the course of the year. 00:00 Introduction and Setting the Stage 00:30 Conversation Begins: New Year Excitement 01:42 Discussion on New Year's Resolutions 03:01 Alan's Approach to New Year's Resolutions 04:16 Katie's Experience with Word of the Year 05:35 Alan's Word for 2024: Kenosis 08:52 Katie's Approach to New Year's Resolutions 16:26 Understanding Limiting Beliefs 23:00 Dealing with Inner Critic 38:16 Exploring Big Hairy Audacious Goals 42:57 Wrapping Up and Looking Forward

In this podcast, Katie and Alan explore the concept of disruption and its potential value in both personal and professional growth. They discuss the significance of disruption in challenging existing routines and instigating growth, explaining that it could cause discomfort but leads to deeper self-understanding and transformation. They note that while disruption can be an intentional process, it often brings resistance, hence the need for a healthy mindset, support from others, and the power of dreaming about 'what could be'. A key takeaway is that disruption is not a linear process and involves stepping into the unknown, making it important to count the cost, make it meaningful, and have a support group. 00:00 Introduction: Are You Ready to Be Disrupted? 00:21 Understanding Disruption: A Conversation 01:41 Defining Disruption: A Break from Normalcy 02:40 The Value of Disruption: A Skeptic's Perspective 04:17 The Mindset of Disruption: Seeking Growth 11:21 The Reality of Disruption: A Personal Journey 17:15 The Cost of Disruption: Resistance and Loneliness 19:54 Finding Support and Focusing on the Future 21:07 The Role of Disruption Support Group 21:36 Identifying Areas for Low Stakes Disruption 23:28 The Importance of Personal Investment in Disruption 24:34 The Role of Coaching in Disruption Management 25:50 Uncovering and Overcoming Limiting Beliefs 28:02 The Ripple Effect of Personal Growth on Professional Practice 29:45 Practical Application of Disruption in Healthcare 31:17 Expectations and Challenges in the Disruption Process 32:51 Committing to the Disruption Process 37:12 The Cost of Disruption and the Importance of Accountability 38:55 Preview of the Peace Index

Introduction and Overview this joyful patient I have, perhaps the patient that's not so joyful.... Joy in Serving Others: A Discussion that's awesome I love it well I think the encouragement started with you so the feeling is mutual but yes it's hard to believe we are recording episode 22 and you know I think it's very fitting that we are talking about joy in serving others and how at least in my mind I think what we're talking about on this episode really stems from the fact that so often as healthcare providers we're in that daily grind and we forget what a blessing and what a joy it is to actually get to take care of our patients in the ways that we do... Appreciative Inquiry: A Leadership Style before we dive into that let me set the stage a little bit for the type of leadership and then we're certainly going to apply and I'm happy to kick that off and... Applying Appreciative Inquiry in Healthcare even though negative is still present we live in reality versus this patient's going to be difficult I don't want to talk to her I'm just giving her a medication and she can go on her way that perspective and that change starts with me as that leader as that healthcare professional who defines that culture for that patient... The Challenge of Applying Appreciative Inquiry or that patient that you enjoy what are some of the strengths that you bring what are some of those positives in the way you interact... Personal Experiences with Appreciative Inquiry well let me give you an example Katie of one of my patients and I'm gonna I'm gonna pick one that was more of the challenging variety and so this was many years ago I'm gonna use the name Jim I don't believe his name was Jim but that's okay and Jim was probably in his mid to late 70s I worked at a small independent community pharmacy in a very rural part of Oklahoma so everyone knows everyone... Appreciative Inquiry: A Self-Reflection it's a great question let's talk about applying it to ourselves... Applying Appreciative Inquiry Outside of Work now you're speaking my language can I make a healthier choice you're speaking my language Alan yeah... Final Thoughts and Conclusion well Katie as we wrap up our conversation around this appreciative inquiry looking at things from that positive perspective leaning into some of our real strengths being able to bring those out to people who might not be so joyful final thoughts anything swirling in your mind...

Introduction and Setting the Stage it was a Friday, it was, my whole family was home because we'd been snowed in. And I saw that number from the healthcare organization. I saw it pop up on my phone and I thought, this is it. And they told me I was so distraught, they actually had to call me back and let me collect myself. Because I knew in that instant that this could be really bad And shortly thereafter was diagnosed with... The Importance of Authenticity and StorytellingThroughout our time on this podcast, we've been real and raw.... A Light-Hearted Banter: The Importance of Listening to the Entire EpisodeHey, can we stop right there?... Celebrating Milestones and Sharing Personal StoriesI think to give a little bit of context for our listeners is that we are recording episode 21 today and I don't remember the specific statistic, but like only a certain percentage of podcasts actually make it to episode 21.... Unveiling the 'Why': The Motivation Behind the PodcastMy story is gonna give a lot of background for my why....A Glimpse into the Past: Life Before the DiagnosisSo, when I think about my why.... The Turning Point: Cancelling MammogramsBut, I was so stressed in 2017 trying to make both of these perfect worlds in work and home that I can't, I started canceling my mammograms.... The Impact of Perfectionism and Fear of Letting People DownYeah, Katie, a couple things as you're talking, and I'm hearing the word perfect or perfection, personally and professionally, here....The Power of Mindset in Decision MakingThe mindset you had.... The Struggle of Balancing Responsibility and Self-CareAnd I wonder, in the context of being a healthcare professional, If the mindset was also a sense of like duty and dependability....The Moment of Truth: Receiving the DiagnosisAnd shortly thereafter was diagnosed with invasive ductal carcinoma.... The Emotional Toll of Sharing the News with FamilyAnd the theme that we've talked about that comes back around to each of us is do I end up being sacrificed in the process of sacrificing?... The Journey of Treatment: Surgery, Chemo, and RadiationYeah, so the, the interesting thing is that because we didn't know a whole lot about the tumor, you know, we didn't know going into it what this was gonna look like.... The Power of Team Support During TreatmentWhat was, what was something that you learned from that experience?... The Impact of the Experience on Future PerspectivesKatie, so now, you know, we're, we're two years ish you know, past.... Lessons Learned and the Importance of Progress Over PerfectionI think probably the last thing I would say is when we talk about Motivation.... Conclusion: Gratitude and Joy in the Midst of StrugglesWell, I think in the spirit of joy and gratitude, I am going to put that right back on you, Alan, and say thank you for being my friend and colleague through this journey....

Navigating the Holiday Season as a Healthcare Professional In this podcast episode, co-hosts Katie and Alan discuss the unique challenges faced by healthcare professionals during the holiday season, often marked by high stress levels and complex emotions. They share personal experiences and offer helpful tips for maintaining a positive mindset, dealing with expectations, embracing imperfections, and finding joy in small celebrations. They emphasize the importance of self-care, acknowledging feelings, and supporting colleagues during this stressful period. The conversation also acknowledges those who may be facing holidays with personal losses or tough memories, providing pointers on how to manage such situations. The discussion ends by encouraging all listeners to practice intentionality, celebrate successes, no matter how small, and create moments of joy and appreciation in their daily lives. 00:00 Introduction and Personal Experiences 00:43 The Challenges of Being a Healthcare Professional During Holidays 03:36 Personal Stories: Working During Holidays 10:06 Dealing with Emotions and Expectations 15:53 The Importance of Saying No and Self-Care 21:39 Embracing Imperfection 23:17 The Pressure of Perfection 23:43 The Impact of Imperfections 23:55 The Power of Prioritization 24:24 Embracing Imperfections 24:48 The Seriousness of Perfection 25:16 The Enneagram and Personal Motivations 25:50 Dealing with Loneliness and Loss During Holidays 26:03 A Personal Story of Loss 28:13 The Importance of Reflection 29:10 The Power of Mindset 29:29 Applying Mindset to the Holidays 29:57 The Impact of Mindset on Behavior 30:52 Shifting Mindset: A Practical Approach 32:47 The Power of Positive Memories 36:29 The Importance of Intentionality 41:53 The Power of Celebration 44:24 Final Thoughts and Reflections

This podcast focuses on discussing the head triad in the Enneagram, which includes types five, six, and seven. The hosts, Alan and Katie, delve into what each type represents, examining both the strengths and challenges these traits can bring in a healthcare setting. Looking at key features, they explore the importance of considering different perspectives in improving patient care. They also examine how they personally resonate with these types and the paths they can lead to growth. The episode ends with an emphasis on the integrative nature of the Enneagram that ultimately leads to progress rather than perfection. 00:00 Introduction 00:26 Understanding the Head Triad: Types Five, Six, and Seven 01:02 Reflecting on the Gut Triad 02:46 The Integrative Nature of the Enneagram 05:49 Exploring the Type Five in Healthcare 10:11 Unpacking the Type Six in Healthcare 12:50 Diving into the Type Seven in Healthcare 16:45 The Dominant Emotion of Fear in the Head Triad 29:56 The Value of Each Type in a Healthcare Team 38:01 Final Thoughts and Reflections

Introduction to the Heart Triad: Twos, Threes, and Fours Overview of the heart triad in the Enneagram and its significance in healthcare. Core Motivators of the Heart Triad Exploring the key motivations behind types 2 (Considerate Helper), 3 (Competitive Achiever), and 4 (Authentic Creative). The Considerate Helper: Type 2 in Focus Discussion on the characteristics, strengths, and challenges of Enneagram Type 2. The Competitive Achiever: Type 3 Explored Insights into the traits and workplace dynamics of Enneagram Type 3, especially in healthcare settings. The Authentic Creative: Understanding Type 4 Delving into the unique qualities and contributions of Enneagram Type 4 in healthcare. Dominant Emotion of Shame in the Heart Triad Analyzing how the emotion of shame impacts types 2, 3, and 4, and its implications in professional settings. Emotional Intelligence and Patient Care Discussing how the heart triad's emotional depth can enhance patient care and team dynamics. Challenges and Blind Spots of the Heart Triad Identifying potential pitfalls and areas of growth for types 2, 3, and 4 in healthcare professions. The Value of Deep Emotional Connection in Healthcare Emphasizing the importance of empathy and emotional connection in patient care and team collaboration. Looking Ahead: The Head Triad (Types 5, 6, 7) Preview of the next episode focusing on the head triad in the Enneagram.

THE ENNEAGRAM: HOW TO BUILD A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP The dominant emotion is anger. Understanding the Enneagram helped Alan be more aware of it. How do we build a healthy culture around the relationships? THE ENNEAGRAM TRIAD We're going to get really practical tonight as we talk about the type eight, type nine and type one. We're talking about for healthcare professionals, personally and professionally, the. application. What specifically are you excited about? ENNEAGRAM 3, THE GUT TRIAD The eight nine one is known as the gut, the body triad. Next time we're going to talk about the type two three four, which is the heart Triad. And then the episode after that, the five six seven, which are the head triads. THE GUT TRIAD OF ENNEAGRAMS Eight, nine and one are the gut are linked together in the gut triad. What might that look like for someone working in healthcare? It comes from those senses. THE 8, 9 AND ONE IN HEALTHCARE The eight is the one who uses that gut or that sense to look for a challenge. The eight jumps right in and says, okay, what can we do to address this? Really being good advocates for patients, for improving systems. THE NEED FOR THE TRANSACTIONAL AND THE RELATIONAL It could be in our personal life as well, the need for the transactional and the relational. How do we build a healthy culture around the relationships? A TYPE 8 IN THE WORKFORCE We're combinations of all nine types. Some of that's more natural than others. What do leaders do? They recognize I need to tap into this area right now. DO YOU NEED TO LEAN IN TO YOUR 8 OR 9 TYPES? If I had to pick between my eight or my nine, I would say that I probably lean a little bit more into my nine because that's that peacemaker. GUT TRIAD: ANGER, PERFECTIONISM As a one, I very often try to control and suppress my anger. What often happens is that frustration comes out sideways and can look like being super critical of other people. WHAT MAKES KATIE ANGRY? What are some things that make Katie angry? Other people not following through on something that they said they would do. Rules, plans, deadlines, those kind of things. This is where the anger can build, but it's directed internally. TAP INTO YOUR 9-YEAR ANGER Can we do the same exercise with you and have you tap into your nine, maybe take a deep breath first. Nines, as I mentioned earlier, are so aware of the other eight types. They can struggle to identify if they are angry at all. Be honest with yourself. It is okay to be angry. WHAT DO EIGHTS DO IN THE HEALTHCARE PROFESSION? Eights can get a bad rap here because they can be strong defenders of those they see taken advantage of. But beneath that tough exterior is a very tender, sensitive heart. THE IEQ 9 AND HOW TO LEAD Not all of us have the same motivators. If I think that everyone on my team should be motivated the way I am, this is where we have some real challenging team dynamics. The IEQ nine assessment is a good starting point for leaders. THE ENNEAGRAM: HOW TO LIVE YOUR LIFE The Enneagram can be extremely humbling. Identifying blind spots and realizing, oh, wow. Yeah, I can be pretty rigid at times. But we talk about those best leaders, to me, are hungry, humble, smart. I'm asking all of us to be willing to lean in and to change. WHAT MOTIVATIONS CAN TYPE 9 HAVE FOR THEIR TEAM? Watch the culture of your workplace to see if everyone can thrive. High challenge, high support, both needed. What would be some key things that could really motivate each of the three types? THIS IS THE ANGER TRIAD This is the anger triad. It does not mean that only these three types get angry. All of us can handle anger in some very unproductive and unhealthy ways. How do we make those healthier choices moving forward? THE ENNEAGRAM: THE HEART TRIAD This is only one third of the Enneagram. It was intentional that we didn't try to do all nine in one episode. We're going to lean into the other triads that aren't as natural for us. They're all of equal worth and equal value.

A WEEK IN THE LIFE OF KATIE Alan says he is super excited about today's topic. He needs an update on your chicken egg enterprise. Katie will once again only scratch the surface. We will definitely take deeper dives in subsequent weeks. COACHING THE ENNEAGRAM Today my excitement is that we start talking about the Enneagram. Having been certified in this assessment, both individual and team basis for the last year and a half, it is the most powerful assessment I've ever taken. I invite listeners today to approach our time with curiosity. THE ENNEAGRAM Alan : Why the enneagram versus any other assessment? He says learning about my personality type through this lens really helped him understand himself a little bit better. IS THE ENNEAGRAM IMPORTANT FOR YOUR WORK? As the Enneagram one, I might step up and do it for a different reason than the two, three, four, the other numbers. Even if the behavior looks the same, it's that motivation piece. That's really where the magic and the growth happens. THE ENNEAGRAM AND WHAT MOTIVATES YOU The value of the enneagram is it gives every voice and every person a chance to play. The motivations may be different, but they're all valuable. This gets into more of what are those things that are core motivators for me. THE ENNEAGRAM iEQ9 ASSESSMENT Alan : There's many reasons why I like the IEQ9 over other enneagram assessments. He says it goes into greater depth than simply the nine types. THE IEQ9 AND ITS RELEVANCE The IEQ9 is powerful because of the integrative nature we're combinations of all nine. It gives others a chance to really lean into their superpowers. If you're a type one, you're probably a better healthcare professional than a type. THE ENNEAGRAM AND THE iEQ9 The Enneagram, the iEQ9 specifically has given me greater grace for myself and others with specificity. The amount of beating up of self that can happen. When I don't get something perfect, I beat myself up. Any number can do this. THE ENNEAGRAM: HOW TO USE THE iEQ9 As a coach in training, what do you think for you as far as the iEQ9 moving forward for you? Getting to those things that motivate us, like with specificity, I think can be a tremendous competitive advantage. In a large health system, this assessment can be especially powerful. THE ENNEAGRAM: DO WE LABEL PEOPLE? The enneagram can be used in a destructive manner. It can be very dangerous and destructive to use any of these assessments as a way to exclude someone. But if I can create more opportunities that get to the core motivators of my team building the bench, I'm more likely to keep great employees. THE ENNEAGRAM AND ITS NORMALIZATION Can we also talk about the fact that the enneagram has normalized some things for me? And I appreciate you bringing the humor into this, Katie. What are those things that are core motivators showing blind spots? KATIE, WHAT ABOUT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE SKEPTICAL OF ASSESSMENTS? Katie, what would be something you would say to someone skeptical of an assessment? Why not give it a try? What's the worst that could happen? Also, you don't have to drink from the fire hose. It's not something that is going to change your life overnight. THE iEQ9: A QUESTION OF CURIOSITY We encourage all of you to investigate the iEQ9 and learn more. After you take it, share your results with someone spouse, a coworker, and get their thoughts. It is a lot of rich material to process with a coach. THE ENNEAGRAM AND LEADER ASSESSMENT Can we do an iEQ9 for the golden doodles? As leaders, what do we do? We play roles based on what the person or persons on the other side of us need. We want to be careful with any assessment that we begin to assess others. This gets to core motivators. THE ENNEAGRAM JOURNEY: Alan: The purpose of this podcast is to challenge and encourage. We're going to get into that enneagram journey, so strap in. As always, great to chat with you and looking forward to our next episode

WHAT'S FALL FASHION? With fall weather comes favorite foods. Katie loves anything pumpkin spice flavored, particularly like pumpkin bread. Alan: How is this different from counseling? WHAT COACHING IS AND WHAT IT'S NOT We're going to unpack tonight what coaching is, what it's not. In the context of as a healthcare professional, should I even be thinking about coaching? Why coaching? And then we'll talk about what those initial coaching experiences were like for you. BEING COACHED BY A COACH When you're working with a coach and you are coming up with those solutions, it's empowering. You are in the driver's seat, and it's your choice. The older I get, the more that really resonates with me and makes a big impact. THE POWER OF THE WORD EMPOWER How do we empower others? We've talked about empowering our patients, but also, are we allowing others to empower us? It's a two way street, and I love how you've used that language versus a tell. ALAN ON COACHING There is an art and a skill to coaching just like any of our professions. Only select international Coaching Federation Coaches ICF certification. Not all coaches are alike. Coach must listen first and ask to seek to understand. HAVING A COACH IN THE TRANSITION Alan: Can you think of a time where having a coach might have been helpful? Katie: A coach is another person to add to your team, not to replace family or friend. Alan: Having that coach as a neutral party really gives you space to explore. FINDING A COACHING COACH Finding a coach is probably also a little bit like finding a counselor. Sometimes you're compatible and sometimes you aren't. It's not a one size fits all coaching, perhaps not coaches. At the end of the day, we want it to be that really good fit for you. KATIE'S FIRST COACHING SESSION Alan: Sometimes organizations hire coaches to help within the organization. He says silence is a tool that coaches use because it helps open up that space for the client to really think more and to expand more. It is that trusting relationship and creating that safe space and then giving. SIGNS OF A BAD COACH? The coach should actually do the least amount of talking in the session. Be very present, be with your body contact, with your eye contact. How well does this coach listen? We've learned it as level one, level two, and level three listening. WOULD I HAVE NEEDED COACHING? The International Coaching Federation found that there was a 34% improvement in work life balance for those who went through coaching. As leaders, as healthcare professionals, we carry a lot of weight every day. If there's a way that I can alleviate that load, I want to encourage you to do it. KATIE'S LAST THOUGHTS ON COACHING Katie, any final thoughts about coaching? Whether it's being a coach, being on the other side of coaching. Give one of us a call and just see what it's all about. Try it and see if it's a fit for you. We don't know until we try

WHAT ARE TRANSITIONS IN YOUR LIFE? In this episode, we're talking about transitions. Many of us may be unaware that we're even going through a transition. We'll discuss the unexpected consequences of these invisible daily transitions. How do you deal with the ambiguity that is associated with them? TRANSITIONS: HOW MUCH I STRUGGLE WITH THIS TOPIC We have not mastered the things with which we're discussing. We may struggle at times, more or less. The topic we're going to talk about today, transitions is certainly been a challenge for me. HAPPY HOLIDAYS! WE SHOULD THANK OUR HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS! As a healthcare professional, I recently had some healthcare needs this time of year. I want to give a shout out to all of our healthcare professionals that I know do that every day. ON TRANSITIONS We are going to talk big and small. Are these big transitions, small transitions, both? What do you mean? We want to get to the real issues that are going on. KATIE ON TRANSITIONS Katie: I had a three minute buffer between when my navigation said I would be arriving at home and when I was supposed to be on camera. Normally I do take some time to transition myself between work and the things I'm doing at home. THE NEED FOR PRESENCE IN THE WORKPLACE Alan: One of the things that I've been learning a lot about in my study to become a certified leadership coach has been the concept of presence. When I don't have that transition time, I have a hard time being present WHAT ARE THE BIG TRANSITIONS? Alan: What do you see as a big transition? There's a tension between one space and another. For me, what I always loved and enjoyed, now I don't to the same level: It's very unsettling for someone like myself. THE TIME I ASKED MYSELF IF I WAS CRAZY it sounds like during that time, some things fell out of control for you. I think that's really helpful to recognize that times of transition can be really disorienting. Any thoughts? Anything resonate? Any questions? IN THE LIMINAL SPACE: THE AMBIGUITY One of my favorite places to be is in a big pit of ambiguity. I feel like we need to start offering ambiguity boot camps. Sometimes for me, I just need to acknowledge that this is where I am. Sharing that with someone else was a huge step. BEING AWARE OF TRANSITIONS IN HEALTHCARE Each one of us has a different experience with transition. Sometimes assumptions are made about how someone's feeling or what they think THE NEED FOR TRANSITION IN HEALTHCARE Many healthcare professionals are considering leaving the profession or changing jobs. How do we approach transitions with curiosity and not contempt? Think about how tough it is in healthcare right now, regardless of profession. HOW TO MANAGE TRANSITIONS So it sounds like we are identifying some constructive ways to manage transitions. One of the things that I like to do when I'm in a time of transition is to reflect back on previous transitions. To remind myself that there is good in the transition, right. REFLECTION FOR THOSE IN TRANSITION Alan : Can we reflect back on our own data with appreciation the things we've learned. In having a couple more significant seasons of transition, doing what Katie just said has been especially helpful. HOW TO TRANSITION FROM PRESENTATION TO WORK There's a tool that Katie and I use, and Giant Worldwide is the group. It's called the five gears. When I'm in transition, I struggle with being both present and productive. Do you have any thoughts on constructive things for the smaller transitions? A VOICE FOR THE UNEMPLOYED This is simply starting with awareness. We live in reality. We all probably have many things to do while we're listening to this podcast. This is hard, and we're hopeful that these tips can be helpful. A FEW MINUTES WITH ALAN Awesome. Have fun with your meetings and all the things that you've got to do. If you would have dropped that dinner off on your way. I didn't have time as well to get anything prepared. See you later, Alan. Bye.

THE 1%, UPDATE ON MY PHYSICAL HEALTH For our check in, Alan and Katie share some of the things they're working on. Alan says he's been tapering off sugar. Katie: What's your 1% update? Alan: We need to have some episodes dedicated to actual physical health. HAVE YOU LOST WEIGHT WITH THIS DIET? Katie is training to become a leadership coach. She says being present with people is hard to do when you are leading with so much forward energy. Part of being present is checking in and just taking it down a notch, she says. KATIE HIKES THE GRAND CANYON Katie had the incredible honor, blessing, privilege to hike the Grand Canyon rim to Rim. It took us about 11 hours. I highly recommend it to people who are able to take the time and physically able to do it. APPLYING CONFIDENCE TO OUR ASSUMPTIONS We're going to talk about assumptions. Do you make assumptions every day? Absolutely. They can be about others or about ourselves. Are our assumptions correct or incorrect? Are they good or bad? ABNORMALLY CONFUSING QUESTIONS AS A HEALTHCARE LEADER As a pharmacist, I made the assumption that I don't know enough. Let me give you an example of an assumption about a fellow healthcare professional. It can be easy to assume some things that aren't in fact. We're trying to be better leaders both in the workplace and at home. APPLYING HUMILITY TO TEAM MEMBERS Katie, I have been very guilty of making assumptions about other people on my team. I think that assumptions can be a huge threat to teamwork, especially when those assumptions become labels. You can approach the situation with humble inquiry instead of the ask versus a tell mindset. ABNORMATIONS IN THE WORKPLACE Alan: Where do you think assumptions come from? How did we get here? He says sometimes we make positive assumptions and things get that like halo effect. If we're not thinking critically and asking the questions, that positive impact can also get us into trouble. IN THE ELEVATOR WITH ANNOUNCER Alan : What is 1% that I can do to be different about my assumptions? The first step is naming my assumption. These can be subtleties. Sometimes they're very obvious, sometimes they're subtle. Being able to articulate with specificity is important. QUESTIONS ABOUT CONFIDENCE AND INCLUSION We need others to see our face. Am I willing to ask others and then to receive that feedback every once in a while? How assumptions can really hold us back from doing new things. Leaders define culture. And so it starts with me. AS A LEADER, ABSURD THOUGHTS AND BURNOUT As a leader, I'm noticing two of my colleagues have made a lot of false assumptions. These assumptions limit, in this case, limit the quality of care I provide my patients. The potential relationship between making assumptions and stress and burnout. As leaders, I want to continually be checking in, asking those questions. AN ACCUSED PERSON MADE A FALSE ASSESSMENT OF YOU When I was younger, I got labeled as shy, reserved. This can happen to introverts. We have to be careful in this space because we can then begin to label and to assume things. It can have a very detrimental effect if we don't connect with the why. ABSURD ASSUMPTIONS MADE ABOUT OTHERS When I make assumptions, I am coming at it from my own perspective. But when I impose that on you or it's an ought or should on you, then you can see the detrimental effect. How do we do that? We do it with curiosity. CONFIRMATIONS ABOUT THE 1% We want to encourage you not to respond with guilt and shame if that's a tendency you have. This is not about perfection. It's about progress, not perfection. We always want you to come away, hopefully encouraged and convicted. LET'S TALK EMOJI Well, Katie, it's about time for my cookie fix. I'm curious what the emoji is going to be at 03:00. All right, well, get out there and challenge those assumptions, everybody. Until next bye.

KATIE'S FIRST HIKE IN THE GRAND CANYON A week from today, Katie will head to the Grand Canyon to hike the Rim to Rim with some friends. It ties in with this theme of health that we've talked about in a variety of ways. TAMING YOUR INNER CRITIC Today we're going to talk about taming our inner critic. Do we have one? And are there times it's beneficial? Are there times where that can get in our way? SHOULD WE TAME THE INNER CRITIC? Should we tame the inner critic? I have a pretty strong inner critic. As a type one, a real strong internal perfectionism and knowing I can't achieve full perfection, but I better get as close as I can. WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WHEN YOUR INNER CRITIC LEAKS OUT Alan Whitworth: For me, it's been in the last few years of recognizing that that inner critic likes to come at me not just in my work life, but in my parenting life as well. If you're not interacting with people in a way that supports your core values, that's that check engine light. ON THE INNER CRITIC Do we tame the inner critic or is there an alternative? There's an and as Katie has mentioned, there is a place for that inner critic, in my opinion. THE INNER CRITIC There is a role for the inner critic, but we need to be keeping it in check. What does it look like to be a little softer to myself? And by soft, I don't mean relaxing standards or excellence. I would say that's health, giving myself grace. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE WHEN KATIE IS REALLY HARSH THE INNER CRITIC When Katie is really harsh the inner critic to herself. What do you notice about yourself when you get in that mindset? It's a great insight to recognize the amount of energy that this can take. HOLDING YOURSELF TO A HIGH STANDARD You're not releasing yourself from the high standard, from the patient care, from safety, from being a good community member. You're just changing the tone HOW TO STOP CRITICIZING YOURSELF What can we replace if we diminish our inner critic by 10%? Let's just use that as a number. Use at least part of that 10% to say to yourself, this is something I did well. KATIE'S CELEBRATION OF HER OWN LIFE Katie, when you allowed yourself to celebrate whatever it was, talk to me about what that felt like for you. I want to encourage you to be specific in the celebration. Celebration is good, period. HOW TO CELEBRATE THE GOOD THINGS IN YOUR LIFE I'm curious what role we play with each other in helping each other celebrate. What happens when my team continually performs at levels that are beyond expectation and yet I just assume that's part of it and I never celebrate them. KATIE'S CELEBRATION OF HERSELF Alan: My inner critic can oftentimes in and of itself be very specific. To counterbalance that with that tangible, specific celebration, I think can really be huge in overcoming it. If we can create that culture where we celebrate others, my hope is that others will experience what Katie described when she celebrated herself. WHAT IF I JUST CAN'T QUIT CRITICIZING MYSELF? Katie Townsend: What if I can't quit punishing myself? Townsend: Sometimes you need somebody to come down there with you and pull you back out. She says sharing this with others can help alleviate some of the pressure. Townsend: It's a two way street, offering help to others. THE INNER CRITIC Whitworth: I'm very goal driven and I've just got all these goals that I'm not meeting. And I just continually work hard, but I'm just not making any progress. So this stuff might be helpful, but it really isn't. WANT TO MAKE MORE PROGRESS? There is a book called Gap to Gain by Dan Sullivan and Dr. Benjamin Hardy. The book talks about looking back at where you started and where you are today. What I would predict is you've made much more progress than you may think. ALAN ON HEALTHCARE AND THE GRAND CANYON Alan Robbins: It's always such a pleasure to talk about being a leader in healthcare. Look forward to that grand Canyon update and how that goes. Thanks for modeling that for us, Katie. Until next time.

LIVING WITH THE 1% Katie, how are you doing? Still collecting on that 1% and that's easier said than done. One of the things that I struggle with, the 1%, because there are so many things to be improved. And we're continuing our theme of very easy topics with no conviction. IS MULTITASKING BAD FOR YOU? Alan: Is multitasking really a good thing? He says as a leader, the number of balls in the air has increased. How do we use different types of multitasking to benefit us? What does that look like both professionally and personally? EXPECTATIONS IN THE WORKPLACE The level of expectations, I believe, has increased for healthcare professionals. Where are the expectations coming from? Internal, external, and very similar to you. How can I be dependable and excellent at the same time if I am multitasking? KATIE ON THE SWITCH A recent UC Irvine study said after just one interruption, it can take up to 23 minutes to refocus on what I might have been doing. I am curious, Katie, as you talked about the switch, what have you found to be helpful in making that intentional transition? 5 GEARS OF PRODUCTIVITY The Five Gears is where you are really focused on one task. This is really an emphasis on the quality versus quantity approach. How can I be both present and productive? It's the and that makes this so challenging. GOODBYE SWAPPING TASKING FOR BACKGROUND TASKING Crenshaw also offers an alternative to switch tasking, which is called background tasking. Other ways that this could happen in a workplace would be delegating things. If you're trying to do too much, if you're not willing to give up some of those things, it could be frustrating. WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE IF WE DID LESS AS LEADERS? What would it look like if all of us, as leaders, did 1% less, maybe 10% less? Could we flip the narrative and say do more with intention? THE IMPORTANCE OF SAYING NO AND NOT Kate: Instead of saying no, I'm not saying no to that. I'm saying yes to a more intentional, authentic version of myself and what I can offer to my organization. What priorities do you have and how does that align to your day to day? THE BENEFITS OF MULTITASKING When we say multitasking, it's keeping as few of balls in the air as possible. If there is one of those balls that especially energizes me, that can work well. This could be an opportunity in the workplace to find tasks that energize my colleagues that may not energize me. HOW TO MAKE MULTITASKING WORK FOR YOU When I decrease the amount of multitasking I do, I then create available time to be present to the people around me. As we examine the way we practice our various professions, is there an opportunity to connect with patients more? What may seem like insignificant steps are actually significant steps.

THE 1% CHALLENGE Alan says part of his journey towards health has been learning to also do resistance training. As a follow up to see if that 1% resistance training decreased the teeth brushing, 1%. If it all evened out or maybe more than 1%, we'll see. ASK FOR HELP IN HEALTHCARE What does it look like for leaders in healthcare to ask for help? We want to think about why we might do that. And then also how do we discern? WHY IS IT SO HARD TO ASK FOR HELP? In many cultures, it's really frowned upon to ask for help. Why is it so hard for us? We're going to get beneath the surface of help and invite all of you to come along. THE NEED FOR INTERPROFESSIONAL COLLABORATION Many healthcare professions don't know what dietitians do. Imagine the synergy of the three of us being able to care for the patient together. It takes away some of the stress from those other healthcare professionals. In our instances as healthcare professionals, it betters the patient. THE IMPETOR PHENOMENA The impact of impostor phenomenon on asking for help can be huge. It's something that I'm really passionate about addressing in my students and in the young professionals that I mentor. Use that to springboard to when is it appropriate to ask for help? ASK FOR HELP: MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE There really continues to be a stigma of seeking help for mental health or substance abuse. What do we do as leaders? Create a culture of safety in your team so that people can bring their authentic selves and then ask for help when they need it. THE IMPORTANCE OF ASKING FOR HELP Alan Caplan: When I see someone else ask for help, it sheds some light on the fact that it's a safe place for me to too, when appropriate. He says if a leader never ever asks for help in any way, it is harder for them to expect others to do the same. Caplin: What served me well younger in life now at 51 is not serving me as well. ASK FOR HELP It can be very hard for me to ask people younger than myself for help. Look for the people that can benefit the patient. When I am willing in humility to admit and then to articulate that I don't know how to do, fill in the blank. Having a mentor can help you make decisions if you are unsure. KATIE ON FINDING A MENTOR Katie, as you sought out mentors and still do, was that an easy process for you, challenging? We've got to have common interests and somewhat of common personalities to make it work. Fear of rejection can keep me from asking for help, but we all need help in various capacities. TALKING TO KATIE ABOUT MULTITASKING Up next is multitasking and how it might just not be working for you. I'm going to suggest a less difficult and easier topic for next time. Katie is always enjoyed our conversation. Stay tuned.

HOW TO SURVIVE THE HEAT Alan: This triple digits is definitely testing my ability to get outside and enjoy and relax. Up next, I am waiting on making some zucchini bread until I find the exact right recipe. Stay tuned for that if you're into that thing. UPDATE ON THE CHICKENS I'm all in on the zucchini, and I think we need to give our listeners an update on the chickens. Except for the one who tried to eat my toe earlier in the week. So I should have some eggs for you pretty soon here. GENOME HEALTH This week we wrap up a three part series on some generational differences. Today we really want to come back to the topic of health. This gets into, once again, the workplace as a leader defining culture. Am I creating a culture of health for those who work with me? THE PURSUIT OF HEALTH IN DIFFERENT GENERATIONS For me, health is about physically feeling good. I don't see health just simply as absence of disease. What I'm hearing you is proactively. We don't have to be crazy about it. There's a lot of really simple things we can do to keep ourselves healthy. MENTAL WELL-BEING How do I stay mentally healthy? What can I focus on that slows me down? This may look different for every person. For many, this might bring added pressure. We want to give ourselves grace, but at the same time recognize that for some of us we may have to change something. HOW DO WE TALK TO PEOPLE ABOUT BEING HEALTHY? How do we talk to people about being healthy? How do I know if I'm healthy or not? Sometimes we don't recognize it in ourselves. Ask those around you who know you now. They may notice something, but invite them to share their opinions. BABY BOOMERS AND THEIR HEALTH Many of us in the younger generations associate health more with exercising and eating healthily. This gets to different perspectives on what we would consider health or unhealth. It is important we talk about culture to once again not sacrifice ourselves in the process of serving others. HEALTHY CULTURE STARTS WITH ME If we want to move towards creating a healthier culture, it first starts with each of us. A book called Atomic Habits talks about the aggregation of marginal gains. If we seek to improve 1% better every day for a year, at the end of the year we'll end up 37 times better. WHAT'S MY 1% For each of us, that one thing we want to be just 1% better at is going to be different for all of us. Using that 1% on top of looking for those motivations could be really powerful in the workplace. We need to be creative in making a culture where stopping and having a healthy snack is available. WHAT DO WE VALUE IN OUR WORKPLACE? It comes back to what do I value in the culture I'm creating. We know this is about patient health and well being and providing the highest quality of care. But what do we truly value in our workplace? What do we Truly Value in our family? THE NEVERENDING PATH It has to come from a place of enjoyment. If you are incorporating one new fruit or vegetable into your diet, each week, you'll have 52 different fruits and vegetables. What we're talking about on the narrow path is that's sustainable and it's not about perfection. Pursue it in a playful manner. CORE VALUES AND HOW TO KNOW YOURSELF Alan: If you haven't developed your core values, take some time to do that. He says the core values of your own individual core values could also be a place to look for inspiration for how to be healthier. Alan: These topics are challenging. But it is definitely worth leaning into that discomfort.

HOW TO RECHARGE YOUR BODY WHEN YOU HAVE CHICKENS Alan says his family acquired six chickens three days ago. The chickens have provided an egg every single day. Alan is counting down the days till his wife and he head to Montana for annual vacation. WHAT DOES IT LOOK LIKE AS HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS IN A MULTIGENER What does it look like as healthcare professionals in this multigenerational workplace where we may have different preferences for a variety of things? DO I LIVE TO WORK OR DO I WORK TO LIVE? Some may view I live to work, others may I work to live these are different preferences. If I view my lens as right, this can lead to conflictual situations. ARE THERE SOME OTHER WAYS THAT YOU SEE PREFERENCES CONFLICTING AMONG OUR GENERATIONS How do we work together? Why? To improve the quality of the patient's well being that we serve. What are the expectations? How can I connect relationally? HOW TO PREVENT CARDIAC BURNOUT Having that relational connectivity was something that I think was important to prevent me from becoming burned out. To me that is high quality patient care. THE ROLE OF PERSONAL MOTIVATION IN HEALTHCARE I like to spend more time with patients. It's what motivates me, it's what energizes me. Different preferences in the way we do that can be part of those things that motivate us. KATIE'S COMMENTS ON THE WORKPLACE The why and the motive in doing this is very important. If I see someone's preference, I make assumptions, oh, Katie doesn't want to do the work. Can I appreciate those differences and still be true to who I am? PHYSICIANS: THE NEED FOR HEALTHY CONFLICT The weapon I was referring to comes out of a system five voices that giant worldwide has developed. The weapon means I am not for you. I am more likely against you or I'm for myself. Conflict, when it comes out like that is unhealthy conflict. WALLS OF SELF-PRESERVATION As leaders, we define culture. Think about how that environment is going to serve the patients that we've been entrusted to care for. distinguish between style and perhaps what we would say is appropriate attire. DISCUSSING MONEY IN THE WORKPLACE Alan, tell me, what about money? Do you think that is something that as generations might view differently? Is that something that has an impact on the workplace, especially in healthcare? And it dovetails quite nicely from what we just talked about in that I can view attire money as well. MONEY AND ITS ROLE IN MOTIVATION For some generations, money can be a significant motivator. But to the level of motivation, I see it at times very different. This is where we want to have this yellow flag, that engine warning light can come on. THE 3 QUESTIONS FOR TALKING MONEY Alan asks three questions to understand people from different generations. He asks them through the lens of curiosity, not contempt. This is not meant to change your preference, but to appreciate the differences. RELATIONAL CONNECTIONS IN THE WORKPLACE First and foremost, relational connectivity. If I know you're for me rather than against me or for yourself, I can guarantee the workplace culture is going to be healthier. And if we take that now to our patients, if we build that relational connectivity with the patients we serve. THE CULTURE OF THE WORKPLACE Think of it as something to manage, not something to solve. How can we all work together? Doesn't mean we're going to think alike. For those of you who are leading these organizations, keep in mind you are defining the culture in your workplace. KATIE, ANY THOUGHTS ON HEALTH AT WORK? When we talk about health, we are not just talking about in the workplace. This is a both and at home, at work, personally and professionally. Not easy to do, but that intentionality is so important. And we can do it together. A DISCUSSION ON GEN-19 DIFFERENCES Where are we headed next time? A discussion on generational differences. There will be repetition and part of this is because these things are not in silos isolated.

THE 3-PART SERIES Alan, how are you? I'm doing well. And Katie, what are we talking about? We are jumping into a three part series, which is exciting because I love the number three. Whatever we don't talk about today, we'll get to continue to talk about on the next episode. THE CHALLENGES OF WORKING WITH DIFFERENT GENERATIONS We are talking about some differences, maybe some similarities too, about what it's like working with people from different generations in the workplace. Ultimately, we'll talk about the why at the end. First of three episodes into what might be some opportunities for all of us as healthcare professionals. WHY IS IT SO HARD TO WORK WITH COLLEAGUES FROM DIFFERENT GENERATIONS? Why does it seem so hard to work alongside colleagues from different generations? What often I think is misunderstood is that they have different values. What are things that we value that may be different and there can be benefit? HOW CAN PAST BEHAVIOR PREDICT FUTURE BEHAVIOR? Do you think there is a prescription for predicting behavior in each generation? I want to say we hold a couple of things loosely. Past behavior is a great predictor of future behavior, but I'm going to hold that loosely. LEADING WITH A CRITICAL EYE As healthcare professionals, we're all leaders to lead others. Are I first willing to examine my own lens? What does it look like to be on the other side of knowing myself, to lead myself? The benefits of that would be incredible in the workplace. GENERATION STEREOTYPES We're going to focus today on some of the generational stereotypes. How do you like being labeled? And I don't mean in a complimentary way. What do you see as some value in cultivating a multigenerational workplace? A MULTIGENERATIONAL WORKFORCE One incredible value in having different generations in your workplace gets to secession planning. Having those different perspectives will lead to a healthier culture. It's a competitive advantage. If you retain your workforce, you save so much in recruiting and training. GENERATION CONNECTION AND SHARED EXPERIENCES Alan: Can we value the value and shared experiences of different generations? He says storytelling, sharing a common experience can be very powerful. Caplan says it can take us from just being people from different generations to when you are on a team together. THE ROLE OF AUTHENTICITY IN THE WORKPLACE You've got to be both intentional and authentic about finding out what are those parts of you and your generation that are interesting and contribute to who you are in the workplace. The assumptions we make, we all make them. And so through these conversations, giving that authenticity, like, I really want to know. A LITTLE MORE FUN IN YOUR WORK Any of us, as healthcare professionals, need a little bit more fun in what we do. I would almost call it joy, being able to find some joy in what you're doing. If we can find some little pockets of fun and pockets of joy, I'm all in on that. THE CHALLENGES OF PERSONAL LIFE IN THE HEALTHCARE WORKFORCE One of the challenges I see in generations is how much of your personal life you bring to work. How can we bring the fun, but how can we also save some space for the hard things? What we're talking about today is going to make every one of us uncomfortable if we actually do it. MOTIVATION IN THE WORKPLACE What may motivate me may not motivate you. A CEO believed that money does it motivate? Absolutely. Flexibility and scheduling. These are some of the things that they would have appreciated more. What motivates us in the workplace? It's not a one size fits all. THE CHALLENGE OF GEN-X "This is going to be so much fun over the next couple of episodes, is that we're going to continue diving into some other generational issues, " says host Katie. "What do we have in common and how can we bring that best version to the workplace? " FAVORITE QUIZ Awesome. All right. It's time for food. Thanks, Katie.

WHAT MOTIVATES ME? Katie Elliot: My kids are both away at camp and so getting a little time to remember what a quiet, clean house is. We're talking about motivation today and what motivates us. HOW TO GET MORE MOTIVATED Katie : The first thing that comes to my mind is the frustration I get with myself when I am not motivated. I compare myself to my colleagues who are motivated. If I'm willing to be vulnerable, am I truly motivated? WHAT DO YOU NEED TO MOTIVATE YOU? Katie, on a scale of one to ten, think about a checklist from one not a big deal to ten. Action tends to motivate me more so than just thinking about things. WHAT MOTIVATES AND DEMOTIVATES PEOPLE For me, one of the things that motivates me is the ability to dream or to think big. It's a very important principle that you just stated is that it's not a one size fits all. MOTIVATION AND JOY For me, it's do I look through a lens of duty or do I Look through a Lens of desire? For most of my life it has been through a lenses of duty. Now I've gotten older and recognized that I have desires, things that energize me. DUTY VS. DESIRE IN THE WORKPLACE Katie, I love the dichotomy between duty and desire. Can I lean into my desire things that motivate me because I just want to do that or it's enjoying to me? HOW TO MOTIVATE YOUR PATIENTS As healthcare professionals, the relational connectivity we have with our patients is so essential. WHAT ARE THE OUGHTS AND SHOULDS IN OUR LIFE? When you think about oughts and shoulds, there's a phrase that we use in my nutrition counseling lab called we don't should on people. What if we are doing that to other people? WHAT'S A DEMOTIVATOR? Katie: I think whenever I see individuals who are not given a chance to grow and be successful, that can be a demotivation. When given the opportunity of pastry, bread or vegetables, then certainly that I'm going to choose the bread now. KATIE ON INTRINSIC VS. EXTRINSIC MOTIVATION I would consider both intrinsic and extrinsic motivation. I would hold both hands open and hold on to them loosely. There's not a magic recipe to how we can intrinsically or extrinsically motivate ourselves. I think it's fluid and we've got to be open to shifting and pivoting. THE IMPORTANCE OF MOTIVATION IN HEALTHCARE I want each of us as a healthcare professional to hold that mirror up for just a second. I know I got into healthcare first and foremost from that intrinsic motivation. But then feeling guilty for thinking about the money or oh, should money ever factor into any decision. This is another example of the both. DIETITIANS AND THEIR SALARY Dietitians are one of the healthcare professionals who are in the lower how do I say this nicely, we're just not paid that well. This isn't just about money. Extrinsic motivators can be a variety of things. Can I do some other things to have greater engagement for all of us in the work we do? WHY IT MATTERS TO YOU TO BE MOTIVATED? If we're having to face unmotivation on a daily, hourly basis for an extended period of time, it's just not a sustainable healthful way to live. I wonder if that could potentially be the start of stress and burnout in professions. What worked for me to motivate me in the past may not motivate me right now. MOTIVATION AND THE IMPORTANCE OF COMMUNITY Demotivation and being unmotivated thrives in being alone. In solitude, we need to be with and for other people to help figure those things out. Having people to mentor you is also important. SIX MOTIVATORS OF THE ENNEAGRAM There's an assessment called the IEQ nine, and it's the Enneagram on steroids. What are some of those things that motivate me? I am a huge fan of assessments. That's just a tease of things to come. A WEEK IN THE LIFE OF THE ENNEAGRAM Next time, we're going to begin talking about some generational, not only differences, but the similarities and how they play into some of the things we've talked about. Stay tuned as we begin to unpack that further.

THE TOPIC OF BURNOUT ON THIS WEEK'S Burnout affects every healthcare professional across the entire continuum of healthcare. What we might do today is uncover for some people possibly recognizing that this is something they're experiencing and they didn't even know it. Some things we talk about today, we'll definitely discuss next week. THE HELP OF OTHERS WITH BURNOUT Yes, burnout can be very lonely. There's something just having that solidarity of there's other people here. Those comparisons can certainly be challenging. So I'd love for us to explore that a little bit how bad burnout is. IN THE COMPARISON OF BURNOUT AND SACRIFICE This is another example of where we're going to encourage our listeners to put themselves at the front of the line in those comparisons. If we feel alone, that pushes us more into our loneliness. That can be a very easy place for any of us to get trapped in. NEARLY ONE-THIRD OF HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS EXPERIENCE BURNOUT Study shows that about half of healthcare professionals experience burnout. About a third of them are thinking about leaving the profession. To burn out in a single day, this is an ongoing process. HAVE YOU GOT BURNOUT IN YOUR HEALTH CARE? Do you think burnout is inevitable? Do you think we should just accept the fact that the longer you're in health care, you're going to be burned out at some point? We should always be on the alert with, how are we doing? HOW TO HELP YOURSELF GET THROUGH BURNOUT Alan: What are some of the messages I've told myself in the midst of burnout? He says it's okay if I'm exhausted. Stop feeling sorry for yourself. Toughen up. Sometimes people think Burnout is about the individual, but it's a result of the whole system. LEADERS: RECOGNIZING THE SIGNS OF BURNOUT "This is a time for leaders. If I'm for you and then do I have the courage to say something, I will tell you, " she says. Are we acknowledging our colleagues or are we contributing to others? Burnout is something passionate people need to be aware of. BURNOUT AND EATING What are you noticing physically? Maybe I'm noticing some tension, stress. Maybe my shoulders are really tight. It's important to recognize not only, okay, my engine lights on, but then we ask the question, so now what? HOW TO GET BACK TO WORK WHEN YOU'RE BURNING OUT When I'm burned out, my mind goes on an infinity loop, nonstop. I've got to disrupt that mindset. What are those things that I enjoy that give me life? Can I find those moments? What may energize me may not energize you. HOW TO GET OUT OF THE PHONE TRAP Katie: What are some things that you do when you don't have that hour and a half to go for a run or other things? It starts with the mindset. I also have had to really reframe my relationship with my phone. We need others to see our own face, she says. PUTTING MYSELF AT THE END OF THE LINE Katie: What if there's someone that the engine light is not on and I don't know if I'm headed toward burnout. She says it comes back to actually putting yourself first and taking that time to get to know yourself. Why does this really matter? Annalyn asks. "IT'S NOT OKAY TO PUT YOURSELF FIRST" Alan: Who am I to put myself ahead of others? Because ultimately, what's the end game? I want to create an environment where it is sustainable for the health of myself and my team, my family, my organization. It's not okay to just keep doing our day to day with that engine light that's flashing. THE TALK OF BURNOUT Alan: We say awareness is the first step. This is not a podcast of self contempt, others contempt. The reason we want to have these conversations is we want all of us to grow healthier. What are some of the next steps? HOW TO GET OUT OF BURNOUT Even when we talk about burnout, is there a one size fits all definition here? Can I appreciate a lens that's different than my own? Stay tuned, because we're going to begin to unpack some of those issues in upcoming episodes.

SERVING OTHERS: THE SACRIFICE AT WORK AND HOME We're going to be talking about sacrifice at work but also at home and what does that look like. What we're talking about today is how do I serve my families and also serve myself in that process? We hope that these tips are helpful in the both. HAVE YOU BEEN SACRIFICIAL? For me, it always gets back to I could do more. There's always going to be more to do. If this becomes the norm versus the exception, it leads to a path of being sacrificed. We'll talk about burnout in the next couple of weeks. HEALTHCARE LEADERS: THE NEED TO COMPETE For me, there is a line that got crossed from pure humility. I'm here to serve and to sacrifice for others. For me, though, I cross the line into pride. Where is that line and how do we draw that line? PUT YOURSELF FIRST IN SACRIFICE There's a difference between putting yourself first or deciding that you will always be last. I see that as a working parent, both at work and at home, unless I'm intentional about putting myself first. How can we look at sacrifice with a more healthy mindset? THE NEED FOR TRUSTFUL ADVISORS I think it really illustrates the value of having people that can bring high challenge to us. If you don't have them, it's not easy to find. We can't just put our heads down and keep chugging along until a critical event happens. How are my relationships, who's speaking into my life? HOW TO STOP THE DARK SPIRAL If my tank is full, I have a higher capacity. There are physical things like sleep and nutrition and these are all things that at some point I want to get to. If I am sacrificing myself, the tank is low, the deep dark spiral happens. But if I am resting and in relationship and getting good sleep, then thattank is full. WHEN SACRIFICE IS ACTUALLY ENERGIZING Is there a difference between that healthy sacrifice and unhealthy sacrifice? When I'm leading with rest, the sacrifice comes from more of a health and it's energizing. Work is not bad when it becomes more sacrificial than it should be. CHOICES MADE: RECHARGING YOUR SOUL Katie, are there intentional opportunities that I can recharge knowing my schedule never goes 100% according to my plan? I love that you brought it down to choices because we do have choices and sometimes we're not always going to make the right choice. One of the most powerful words is the word no. RECHARGING WITH NO AND YES Can I say no to something that involves others? It is still very difficult for me why, when I do that, guilt and shame makes an appearance. Are there some intentional times where I can say yes to me, which means I have to says no to others? HOW TO DEAL WITH GUILT AND SHAME Let the guilt and shame come. For me, the way I look at it is I try to think of the big picture. It then helps me better serve those that I'm called to serve. KATIE ON HOW TO TALK TO YOURSELF Katie, I'm hearing you give yourself grace and compassion here as a mom. Trying to talk to myself the way I would to someone else in the same situation has been really helpful for you. We encourage you to try something. Maybe it didn't work for you, okay? SELF- ASSESSMENT OF SACRIFICE We've talked about different ways to approach sacrifice in a healthy way. How to identify it when it's unhealthy. I would encourage all of us to do a quick self assessment. WHAT IF I ASPIRATED OTHERS TO DO AS I DO What if I'm asking those around me to be sacrificed for the sake of the profession, work, family, friends? And why would you not? Or isn't that something you should do? You signed up for this. That's a badge of honor. THE NEED FOR SACRIFICES How do we define sacrifice? For different people, it's going to look different ways. Getting into the unrealistic or the impossible is really then warning lights for sacrifice. BURNOUTS AND THE GOOD How challenging is it to tell good people who want you to do good things? In making these tough decisions, it's our hope that it will lead to greater health.

LEADING WITH REST Alan: Resting has always been hard for me. How do I intentionally put rest first versus if I have any time left over, I'll rest it's whatever's left at the end of the day. In these three easy steps, you will be able to come from a place of rest. WHAT DOES REST LOOK LIKE? For me, rest needs to be the opposite of work. Resting is getting in my kitchen and making something with my hands, baking, being creative. Our brains are more efficient when they get to rest. We need a rest period for the body to replenish. HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS: REST OVER PERFECTION Alan: When I don't have the time throughout my 8, 10, 12 hour shift to stop, to rest, to eat, whatever that may be, I seek progress towards rest over perfection. Katie: One thing that could really help in that challenge is embracing 80s music. THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SLEEP AND REST One in three adults don't get enough sleep, according to the CDC. Alan says he can see some value in rest. But he doesn't see value in sleep because he's not getting anything done. Both are needed. KATIE ON THE NEED FOR SLEEP The difference between sleep and rest is more of that psychological or spiritual where we can fool ourselves into not needing it. The one thing I've been trying to do lately is to stop using my phone an hour before bedtime. For me it comes back to that intentionality paying attention to how I feel after I do something. PUTTING THE PHONE AWAY FOR AN HOUR Katie, what do you do when you put your phone away for an hour? What does that hour then look like before? Maybe it's doing a crossword puzzle or doing something with your hands. Maybe somebody would want to ask someone to help them be accountable to it. RESTING YOUR BRAIN: Alan: Having the phone in my vicinity was a distraction. Are there potentially limiting beliefs that are keeping us from resting? How do I sacrifice without being sacrificed? This will be a theme that we will come back to. KATIE ON REST AND BURNOUT Katie: The concept of doing versus being. Made me think of burnout. If we do want this to be sustainable, we need to look for those solutions together. Making sure that we're tying it to that sustainability pieces is really important. HOW TO HELP YOUR PEOPLE REST Do you see people around you that need rest and how can you help them rest as well alongside you? This does tie back into leadership and I appreciate you bringing this up. Leaders have to walk the talk. WHAT IS A PERFECT LEAD? And so I want to encourage all of our listeners, your leaders, your men and women of influence, healthcare professionals, and you lead well beyond the workplace. Am I modeling for my family, for my colleagues, what this looks like? We are encouraging you to be intentional in this. A LITTLE MORE SLEEP FOR YOUR CAREER? Most of us have developed habits over time that have made us very successful. What is something tangible we can do that's very realistic? I try to get outside as much as I can. Ask others if they've noticed any difference. HOW TO REST YOUR LIFE When I put rest in first, I'm actually more productive and I am more fun to be around. For any of us who can be hard on ourselves to give ourselves grace. It's okay not to get it right the first time. REST: A CONVERSATION ON HEALTH Rest, sleep, many of these things, health that we've talked about, these themes will continue to go from podcast to podcast. We'll talk a lot about the "and" versus the "or." Katie, as always, enjoyed our conversation and our time together.

THE WHY BEHIND OUR PODCAST We're already into episode two of our podcast. Today we're going to go behind the curtain a bit and share why we decided to do what we did in this timing. We also want to give listeners a little insight into our own stories. EPISODE 8: WHY THIS PODCAST? Alan: Why this podcast? It's talking not just to people, but talking with people. The curiosity piece, I think is a big thing. We see so many challenges in today's day and time. And the opportunity to do this with you and then to connect with our listeners, that's just a natural part in my sweet spot. WHY ARE WE DOING THIS PODCAST? Katie: I love that we're even talking about the why. Part of the why is I think we all need encouragement, whether we're healthcare professionals or not. As healthcare professionals, it's just really tough right now. So I think that mindset shift of being able to be encouraging is just really what we need. HOW TO BE POSITIVE IN THE MIDDLE OF DIFFICULT SITUATIONS As a healthcare professional, have you ever experienced times where you found it difficult to be positive in the midst of difficult situations? We're going to talk a lot about the need to connect relationally, personally and professionally. PHARMACIST: FEAR OF FAILURE Is that fear of failure? And what does that look like, how do we define it and how can we imagine that for ourselves? This is a time where we want to encourage all of our listeners to lean into something. It may be looking at something in a different lens. KATIE ON BEING POSITIVE There's a difference between being positive and also, I don't know if this is a buzzword, but like the toxic positivity. With my health, that was an area where I really just had to stay positive. HOW TO BE POSITIVE (FOR ME) When I'm more positive intentionally, I can see that ripple out to my friends and my family and to my colleagues. Being positive feels like writing with my non-dominant hand. But darn it, sometimes I really have to think about it and practice it. WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE CURIOUS? There's a difference in curiosity in interrogation, and I'm sure all of us have been on the other side of an interrogation. As healthcare professionals, we're lifelong learners, so learning something new? Yes. Why for you would curiosity be something that piques your interest? WHY WE DO THIS: THE WHY Why are you choosing to do this podcast now? I think now is the time because there is such a need. We all need to have fun for. Things to be lighter, lighthearted, and also serious. It can be fun and serious. NEXT STEP: THE FUTURE OF HEALTHCARE We're going to tackle some of these issues from a variety of perspectives. We talked about last time, some generational differences in the workplace. Many places now, in healthcare and elsewhere, have four generations working side by side. Lots of opportunity, lots of similarities, lots of differences and potential challenges. THE MYTH OF MULTITASKING AND REST An episode is coming up about multitasking and the myth of multitasking. We're also going to talk about rest. Is there a difference between rest and sleep? HOW TO GROW HEALTHIER But then we want to also inspire and encourage. The why, for me in this is how do we all, ourselves included, grow healthier in all different aspects of life. We're not prescriptive, but we are going to give those real practical tips. Stay tuned for that. A WEEK IN THE LIFE: REFLECTION AND REST Katie: I'm a huge advocate for reflecting and reflection. Coming back and reflecting on the why is important. It can help refocus and recenter me. All right, sounds like we'll see you on our next episode, where we are talking about leading with rest.

THE CHECKUP WITH KATIE AND ALAN The Checkup with Katie and Alan podcast will not only provoke disrupt, it will also inspire. Because we all need encouragement. Plus, we're going to share practical ways that we can all grow. If you enjoy stories, like to learn, want to grow and are open to change, this is the place for you. MEET KATIE ELIOT Alan introduces co host Katie Eliot, fellow healthcare professional, running aficionado and co host. Eliot is a registered dietitian nutritionist by training. Also an educator. Working with all the different professions is one of her passions. FOOD AND THE FUTURE OF HEALTHCARE What drew you in initially to being a nutritionist and really understanding food? We're going to talk more about diet, health, wellness throughout our time. We want you to connect relationally. The value of food and health, how can we enjoy both? How can we become healthier? WHAT'S SO IMPORTANT ABOUT BEING ON THE PODCAST? Alan: I'm a pharmacist of goodness over 25 years now. My initial desire is to be part of improving others health, being in health care. We want to encourage you and help you become healthier as you serve those around you. We're going to do that largely through stories. WHAT'S IT LIKE TO BE A COACH? Alan: The best part of being a coach is I get to carry a whistle and yell at people. He says he enjoys coming alongside great people and helping them grow. Alan: It's important to have someone coming alongside and encouraging you. That's why we're doing this podcast together. HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS: GROWTH We want to give all of our listeners permission to invest in your own growth. As you grow healthier, the people around you will become healthier. We're going to talk about these topics very real. But we're also going to really encourage you to be very intentional in what that health could look like. A TASTE OF THE JOURNEY We're going to ask you to step out in the things that are unknown, very unfamiliar, and maybe very uncomfortable, but in that you may discover, wow, I never thought I could enjoy this. This is still ongoing for each one of us. We hope that you'll join us on this adventure. HEALTH AND WELLBEING FOR HEALTHCARE WORKERS Many healthcare professionals feel a sense of guilt for putting themselves first. We're going to talk about mindset as well as what might be resistance to me in sleeping that extra hour or saying no to that opportunity to serve in my community. Often there is a cost to any of these decisions. HEALTH AND WELLBEING BEING FOR HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS The expectations for healthcare professionals has never been higher. As more and more healthcare professionals are leaving their professions for other careers, the demands on the existing healthcare professionals have only continued to grow. What we want to do is encourage you as to what are some tangible things that you can do. A MULTIGENERATIONAL WORKFORCE What is it like as healthcare professionals working in a multigenerational workplace? All of us bring differences in our generations and our backgrounds, our life and work experience. We're going to examine things from that multi generational workplace. What can we do from an encouraging perspective as we move forward? THE NEED FOR REST AND SLEEP We need to get back to the basics on what does it look like to rest and to play and to do things that nurture our soul. One of the challenges I found myself as a working professional with a family is I find myself multitasking a lot. These are issues that we're going to tackle. A PODCAST FOR HEALTHCARE PROFESSIONALS? Our first podcast is about getting rest, eating well, dealing with stress, appreciating one another. We want you to invite friends, family, colleagues who you think might be interested in wanting to learn more. The next episode will talk about the why.

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