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Cinéclub Podcast
by Joe Tindall
Film podcast based in Brighton, UK. cineclub.substack.com
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Episode #22 - Skate videos with Neil Macdonald and Dan Magee
Cinéclub Podcast #22 is a conversation with Neil MacDonald and Dan Magee about skate videos. This is a topic that’s been on my wishlist of episodes for a long time. When I first started Cinéclub as a blog, I wrote a two-part piece entitled Video Days and Memory Screens: Skateboarding on video on film. The idea was certainly not to present myself as some sort of scholar of skate video history: I zoned in on videos that seemed significant or were personal favourites, but omitted many more, either because the piece was already getting very long, or because of my own ignorance. More broadly I was interested in exploring the distinctive grammar of skate videos and the central role video plays in skate culture, but in that piece, I only considered American videos. When it came to shaping my own understanding of skateboarding, videos produced closer to home were far more influential. So, when I saw that Neil Macdonald was releasing a book on the history of UK skateboarding, I thought he’d be a perfect person to invite to revisit this topic and shift the focus onto UK skate culture. Happily we were also joined by Dan Magee who, as you’ll hear, contributed so much to that story, but also made some of those influential UK videos, including Waiting for the World in 2000, First Broadcast in 2001, and Cover Version in 2019.We discuss why video is so important in skate culture, the importance of music in skate videos, the footage in these videos that isn’t skateboarding, how skate videos and skate culture more broadly have been affected by platforms like YouTube and Instagram, and much more.You can also find this episode on…* Apple Podcasts* Pocket Casts* I will no longer be uploading podcasts to Spotify and have removed all previous episodes of the podcast from that platform. It’s something I’ve been meaning to do for ages, because Spotify is a transparently evil company that delights in ripping off musicians, promoting AI slop, and enabling genocide in Palestine.Show notes* Info on Neil’s book, Elsewhere: The Story of UK Skateboarding, 1987-2002* Some suggested skate shops to buy the book from* Native* Focus* Slam City Skates* UK skate video archive at Neil’s website, Scienceversuslife* Dan Magee’s videos * Waiting for the World (2000)* First Broadcast (w/ Adam Mondon, 2001)* Lost and Found (2005)* Make Friends with the Colour Blue (2010)* Cover Version (w/ Kevin Parrott, 2019)* Info on the Skate 50 exhibition at the South Bank Centre* Other videos mentioned in the podcast, in the order they are mentioned * Questionable (Plan B, 1992)* Zoo York Mixtape (1998)* Eastern Exposure (1993)* Mind Field (Alien Workshop, 2009)* Public Domain (Powell Peralta, 1988)* Footage (Gordon & Smith [G&S, 1990])* Unapromo (Unabomber, 1998)* Headcleaner (Unabomber, 2001)* Ban This (Powell Peralta, 1989)* Art Bars: Subtitles and Seagulls (Foundation, 2001)* Memory Screen (Alien Workshop, 1991)* Mosaic (Habitat, 2003)* Photosynthesis (Alien Workshop, 2000)* GX1000 * Endless Beauty (Sci-fi Fantasy, 2025)* Cherry (Supreme, 2014)* Blessed (Supreme, 2018)* The Sixth Sense (Transworld Skateboarding, 1998)* BOBCBC (Quasi, 2025)* Atlantic Drift Episode 11: Tom Knox (2021)* Untitled (2022)* My two-part article on skate videos, Video Days and Memory Screens: Skateboarding on video and film* Part 1* Part 2* Buy issue 2 of the Cinéclub fanzine* 44 pages w/ articles on Conrad Rooks’ bizarre, star-studded countercultural artifact Chappaqua, some shorter pieces on punk and film, and an essay linking Bertrand Tavernier’s 1974 film The Watchmaker of St. Paul (also known as The Clockmaker of St. Paul) to Paul Vecchiali’s La Machine from 1977. DIY and sold on a not-for-profit basis at a cost that just covers the cost of printing: £2.50 plus postage. Shipping internationally.* Issue 1 is also still available, and you can buy both as a bundle. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit cineclub.substack.com
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Episode #21 - Scorpio Films with Nico B.
Cinéclub Podcast number 21 is a conversation with Nico Bruinsma, usually known as Nico B., of the Blu-Ray label Cult Epics. Nico’s name has come up on the show before, because he released restored versions of Marleen Gorris’ first three films, which were discussed in episode 17 with Sue Thornham. On that podcast I said that I wanted to do more on Dutch cinema, and later it occurred to me that Nico would be the ideal person to ask, since he has put out so many great Dutch films on Cult Epics. We decided to focus on Scorpio films, the production company formed by directors Wim Verstappen and Pim de la Parra in 1965, and discuss a number of titles from across their output.Verstappen and de la Parra were both students at the Nederlandse Filmacademie which opened in 1958, and were on the editorial board of the film magazine Skoop, published from 1963. Scorpio’s first feature, Verstappen’s De minder gelukkige terugkeer van Joszef Katus narr het land van Rembrant (1966), was made for a tiny budget of 10,000 guilders. The success of 1969’s Obsessions was eclipsed two years later by Blue Movie, which tapped into a newly sexually enlightened audience. Over 2 million people saw it, and it energised the moribund film industry in the Netherlands. Paul Verhoeven, whose Wat zien ik? was released the same year, said that 1971 was “the year that Dutch cinema was reborn.”The frank sexuality of Blue Movie and other Scorpio releases doesn’t tell the whole story, however. Wim Verstappen followed Blue Movie with VD in 1972, a pitch-black satire that provocatively frustrates the anticipated sex sequences with abrupt cuts to graphic slaughterhouse footage. Pim and Wim also made more personal films: Verstappen’s Dakota (1974), a story about an obsessive longer pilot, was filmed on the island of Curacao where the director grew up. Similarly, Pim de la Parra made Wan Pipel (1976), the first film to be made in his home country of Suriname after the country won independence from the Dutch. Both of these films went over budget, and both tanked at the box office. Scorpio never recovered, and declared bankruptcy in 1978.Nico and I discussed Dutch cinema before Scorpio, Blue Movie’s blend of arthouse cinema and sex, the gear change of VD, the financial failure and artistic success of Dakota and Wan Pipel, the legacy of Pim and Wim in the Netherlands, and much more.You can also find this episode on…* Apple Podcasts* Pocket Casts* I will no longer be uploading podcasts to Spotify and have removed all previous episodes of the podcast from that platform. It’s something I’ve been meaning to do for ages, because Spotify is a transparently evil company that delights in ripping off musicians, promoting AI slop, and enabling genocide in Palestine.Show notes* Cult Epics website* Articles on Pim and Wim at the Eye Film Institute website* Pim and Wim: Scorpio Films* Skoop and Skrien: A New Wind* Dutch Film Academy* Article on the troubled production of Dakota at Nostalgia Kinky* Stream Pim de la Parra’s Rubia’s Jungle (1970) for free at Eye Film Player* Buy issue 2 of the Cinéclub fanzine* 44 pages w/ articles on Conrad Rooks’ bizarre, star-studded countercultural artifact Chappaqua, some shorter pieces on punk and film, and an essay linking Bertrand Tavernier’s 1974 film The Watchmaker of St. Paul (also known as The Clockmaker of St. Paul) to Paul Vecchiali’s La Machine from 1977. DIY and sold on a not-for-profit basis at a cost that just covers the cost of printing: £2.50 plus postage. Shipping internationally.* Issue 1 is also still available, and you can buy both as a bundle. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit cineclub.substack.com
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Film podcast based in Brighton, UK. cineclub.substack.com
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Joe Tindall
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