Controlled Burn

How do you actually get lawmakers to listen to the cannabis industry? Turns out, yelling after the law passes probably isn’t the move.This week, Shane and Brandon sit down with Mary Lane to talk about what she’s learned from showing up at the Oklahoma Capitol, speaking directly with legislators, and advocating for a cannabis industry that’s still figuring out how to work together. From OMMA’s communication gap and upcoming packaging rules to the surprising impact of just 5–8 constituent phone calls, Mary breaks down how industry professionals can stop reacting to legislation and start getting involved before decisions are made.(00:00) Meet Mary Lane & Her Cannabis Industry Background(03:15) Oklahoma Cannabis Is Growing Up(06:59) OMMA, Regulations & the Communication Gap(14:04) Breaking the Cannabis Stigma at the Capitol(17:21) Lobbyists, Industry Groups & Creating Real Change(23:52) How to Find & Contact Your Legislators(26:00) Why Just 5–8 Phone Calls Can Make a Difference(30:26) Packaging Rules & What Could Be Coming Next(32:52) Getting Oklahoma Cannabis Organized(36:12) How & When to Approach Your LegislatorsIf you work in Oklahoma cannabis and you’ve ever wondered, “Who thought this was a good idea?” — maybe it’s time to make sure they hear from you before the next vote.📧: [email protected]🌐: OKCTL.com🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

A fatal extraction facility explosion in Sand Springs has put Oklahoma’s cannabis industry under a microscope — and raised serious questions about safety, compliance, enforcement, and oversight.In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon break down what’s known about the explosion, the arrests that followed, and the regulatory issues surrounding hazardous cannabis extraction. We get into red tags, LP Gas requirements, Metrc activity, operational inspections, and the safety requirements that exist for a reason.At the center of it all is a bigger question: if the state requires seed-to-sale tracking and multiple layers of regulatory oversight, where did the system break down?(00:00) Cowboy Cup Meets Rocklahoma(06:03) The Fatal Sand Springs Extraction Explosion(12:15) Inspections, Operational Status & the Metrc Question(19:10) Safety Concerns & Industry Accountability(27:28) Murder Charges & the Case for Negligence(28:43) LP Gas, Fire Suppression & Extraction Safety(31:00) Red Tags, Permits & Regulatory Requirements(33:22) Gas Suppliers, Liability & Warning Signs(36:53) The Second Arrest & Another Cannabis Operation(41:33) What This Means for Oklahoma Cannabis(48:19) The Sparkler Story & OutroThis is an ongoing situation, and some details discussed in this episode are based on information available at the time of recording. Allegations are allegations unless and until proven in court.What changes should the industry — and the regulators overseeing it — take away from this?

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon break down what’s shifting across Oklahoma cannabis — including the new OMMA advisory council appointment, edible packaging changes, industry politics, and why waiting until enforcement shows up is a dangerous compliance strategy.They also get into how operators can better track legislation, why the industry tends to react too late, and what tighter enforcement could mean for cannabis events, product sampling, and brands heading toward November 1.🔥 Topics include:– New representation on the OMMA advisory council– Edible packaging changes and the cost to brands– Why “compliance loopholes” can become ticking time bombs– How cannabis operators can get involved before rules are finalized– The changing landscape of Oklahoma cannabis events– What businesses should be watching ahead of November 1Chapters:(00:00) El Niño, ocean rabbit holes & Starlink(14:49) Guest updates and industry catch-up(19:37) New OMMA advisory council appointment(25:53) Patient representation and industry concerns(29:16) Edible packaging changes and what they mean(30:57) Why operators need to pay attention to legislation(33:04) Getting ahead of bad rules before they become law(36:32) Cannabis events, samples & changing expectations(48:37) November 1 compliance concerns(49:45) Loopholes, enforcement & ticking time bombsCannabis compliance is getting tighter, packaging is getting sadder, and apparently we’re all learning how politics works now.

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon recap the Metrc User Exchange and what they actually took away from the training — including a few workflow fixes they’d love to see become reality.Then the robots enter the chat. From AI-built lab tools and automation to the question of what AI could look like a decade from now, things get weird fast. Add in a phishing email at the lab, mandatory two-factor authentication, an uncomfortable screen time check, UFC tangents, jiu-jitsu trash talk, and a stolen piece of glass recovered by the cannabis community, and you’ve got a pretty normal episode of Controlled Burn.🔥 In this episode:– What worked (and didn’t) at the Metrc User Exchange– How AI is changing everyday lab workflows– The lab phishing incident and what happened next– Why everyone suddenly got forced into two-factor authentication– UFC, stolen glass, screen time shame, and the usual detoursChapters(00:00) Metrc User Exchange recap(15:39) The AI Efficiency Problem(18:27) The AI Takeover Gets Weird(24:03) The Screen Time Intervention(27:00) UFC, the Diaz Brothers & Jiu-Jitsu Trash Talk(35:30) The Cannabis Community Recovers a Stolen Pipe(38:03) Oklahoma Cottage Food Law Tangent(39:40) The Lab Gets Phished(42:13) Two-Factor Authentication for Everyone(44:22) Strong Passwords, Bad Habits & the OutroCannabis compliance, cybersecurity, AI, and absolutely no ability to stay on one topic. Sounds about right.📧: [email protected]🌐: OKCTL.com🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

Shane and Brandon are joined by John Koumbis for a deep dive into the compliance gray area facing Oklahoma cannabis businesses.With major packaging changes approaching, operators are being asked to spend serious money redesigning products while some of the most important questions still don’t have clear answers. What actually counts as “attractive to children”? Who decides whether a package crosses the line? And how is a business supposed to confidently stay compliant when so much comes down to interpretation?John also gets into his evolution as an industry advocate, the disconnect between regulators and operators, and why Oklahoma may need a better system for reviewing products before businesses invest thousands of dollars bringing them to market.(00:00) Welcome to Controlled Burn(01:40) Big Changes Coming to Oklahoma Cannabis(03:20) Could Most Edible Packaging Become Noncompliant?(05:26) What Happens to Products on November 1?(06:01) The Real Cost of Redesigning Cannabis Packaging(06:21) Breaking Down the New Packaging Rules(07:15) Can John’s Face Legally Stay on the Package?(09:18) Mascots, Trademarks & the Packaging Gray Area(10:35) The Bigger Problem With Oklahoma Cannabis Regulation(12:33) When Businesses Need Answers Regulators Can’t Provide(13:06) Who Decides What Packaging Appeals to Children?(14:21) “Contact Your Attorney” Isn’t Regulatory Guidance(15:13) Spending $50K on Packaging Without Certainty(16:10) The Disconnect Between Regulators and Operators(16:58) Has the Cannabis Industry Evolved Faster Than Regulation?(18:02) John’s Idea for a Packaging Approval Panel(18:53) How Missouri Handles Product Approval(20:00) Approval Delays vs. Launching and Hoping for the Best(20:38) Could OMMA Create a Better Approval Process?(21:39) What Is the EAC Actually Supposed to Do?Navigating cannabis compliance is hard enough when the rules are clear. When they aren’t? Welcome to the gray area.📧: [email protected]🌐: OKCTL.com🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon break down what happens when cannabis compliance rules are clear enough to enforce—but not clear enough for businesses to confidently follow.The conversation centers on Oklahoma’s evolving packaging restrictions, the cost of redesigning products without reliable guidance, and the uncomfortable reality that compliance can depend on who reviews your label. They also discuss the Megalodon situation, untagged inherited product, unanswered requests for direction, and why operators increasingly feel like they must prove themselves innocent after the fact.Plus: dangerous Oklahoma heat, million-dollar UFC cards, fight-fixing chaos, and the usual detours that somehow lead directly back to cannabis regulation.(00:00) Oklahoma heat, workplace safety, and staying alive(10:18) Dana White’s million-dollar UFC card bounty(14:50) What’s happening in Oklahoma cannabis(15:16) The Megalodon Compliance Situation(18:07) Untagged Product, No Guidance, and “Prove Yourself Innocent”(29:40) Oklahoma’s New Edible-Packaging Restrictions(41:38) Flavors, Food Imagery, and the Cost of Subjective Enforcement💬 Is cannabis packaging compliance becoming regulatory roulette? Tell us what your business is seeing.📬 For podcast questions or partnership inquiries: [email protected]📣 Subscribe for more chaos, compliance, and cannabis industry commentary.🌐: OKCTL.com🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

DEA registration questions are colliding with OMMA rule changes, and Oklahoma cannabis businesses are left trying to determine what compliance actually looks like. In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon break down requests for DEA registration proof, why businesses should protect their control numbers, and the need for a reliable verification system.They also dig into OMMA’s Executive Advisory Council, limited public-comment opportunities, emergency packaging changes, and the real cost of regulations changing after companies have already printed thousands of labels. Plus, they discuss industry representation, cannabis lobbying, and why operators cannot afford to stay silent while policy is being written.(00:00) Opening Chaos(11:06) OMMA Meetings and Public Comment(18:31) DEA Registration Confusion(30:59) Packaging and Labeling Rule Changes(34:38) Cannabis Politics, Lobbying, and Representation(40:03) Why the Industry Has to Show Up(44:23) Cowboy Cup at Rocklahoma💬 Has your business been asked to provide proof of DEA registration? Tell us how you handled it in the comments.📬 Podcast questions or partnership inquiries: [email protected]📣 Follow for more chaos, compliance, and cannabis commentary.🌐: OKCTL.com🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon start with holiday chaos, rained-out fireworks, and questionable middle-aged man advice before diving into the real issue: cannabis packaging might be the problem.The conversation shifts into Oklahoma cannabis compliance, upcoming packaging concerns, child-attractive edibles, safe harbor questions, and what operators need to be paying attention to before rule changes create expensive surprises. If you make, sell, test, label, or package cannabis products, this one is your friendly warning wrapped in a little bit of chaos.(00:00) Welcome back, holiday chaos, and lab life(10:48) Carvana, gap insurance, and accidental dad advice(23:27) Cannabis compliance enters the chat(30:42) When packaging becomes the problem(38:16) Youth-appealing edibles and branding risks(46:33) Safe harbor, rule changes, and operator confusion(54:21) Why industry meetings actually matter(01:03:47) Final thoughts and Controlled Burn wrap-up📧: [email protected]🌐: OKCTL.com🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl⚠️ Disclaimer: This episode is for informational and entertainment purposes only and should not be taken as legal advice. Always confirm compliance requirements with OMMA, your attorney, or the appropriate regulatory authority.

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon start with flat feet, forbidden pedicures, weight loss, Red Bull crimes, and a deeply suspicious amount of Cheetos — then somehow end up in Tijuana talking bariatric surgery, Mexican Reggie, border rules, and why Gas-X might deserve its own sponsor slot.But eventually, the chaos finds its way back to cannabis compliance. The crew digs into Metrc, seed-to-sale tracking, batch limits, software loopholes, whistleblower claims, and one very important reminder for operators: just because the system lets you do something does not mean the state will agree it was compliant.(00:00) Opening chaos, forbidden pedicures, and flat feet(04:21) Weight loss, old Brandon, and becoming Oklahoma Medium(08:34) Food habits, fasting, Red Bull, and Cheeto confessions(19:03) Bariatric surgery in Tijuana and post-op survival(21:31) Mexican Reggie, weed laws, and border cautionary tales(31:55) Gas-X, pharmacies, passports, and Tijuana adventures(36:52) Popsicles, Mexican water, and San Diego scooter decisions(41:52) Oklahoma cannabis, Metrc, and seed-to-sale tracking(47:52) Metrc as a tool, not the rulebook(52:23) Regulators, reporting filters, batch limits, and compliance risk💬 Have you seen Metrc used correctly, incorrectly, or creatively? Drop your thoughts in the comments.📬 For podcast questions or partnership inquiries: [email protected]📣 Follow for more chaos, compliance, and cannabis industry commentary.

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon unpack the aftermath of the DEA deadline and the big question hanging over Oklahoma cannabis operators: what happens now? From safe harbor confusion and late applications to distribution license headaches and a government portal that picked the worst possible week to malfunction, this one gets into the paperwork panic without pretending to be compliance attorneys.Naturally, the episode also derails into Tulsa food staples, Meritt’s Bakery propaganda, hydration science, bleached hair, and the kind of industry rumors that make you ask, “Wait… people believed that?”(00:00) Heat, hydration, and breaking the sweat seal(09:23) Coconut confessions and Meritt’s Bakery chaos(15:56) Tulsa food staples and Oklahoma comfort meals(20:20) DEA deadline chaos and portal problems(31:26) Application confusion, safe harbor, and late applicants(36:27) Distribution licenses and business model changes(37:27) Alleged cannabis industry rumors and big egos(48:17) Gas station snacks, no sleep, and episode wrap-upDisclaimer: We are not compliance experts, attorneys, or regulatory advisors. Nothing in this episode should be taken as legal, regulatory, or compliance advice.📧: [email protected]🌐: OKCTL.com🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon start with heartbreak in celebrity relationship court before spiraling directly into Oklahoma election results, cannabis policy anxiety, and the never-ending question: “Who is actually good for the industry?”From governor race runoffs to DEA uncertainty, minimum wage debates, AI making us all worse at punctuation, and UFC Freedom 250 turning into patriotic fight-night chaos — this one covers a lot of ground with the usual mix of compliance, comedy, and controlled panic.If you work in cannabis, care about Oklahoma policy, or just enjoy watching two grown men try to connect Jelly Roll, state elections, ChatGPT, and the DEA in one sitting — this episode is for you.💬 Got thoughts on the Oklahoma cannabis runoff situation? Drop them in the comments.📬 For podcast questions or partnership inquiries: [email protected](00:00)  Intro: Welcome back to Controlled Burn(00:21)  Celebrity breakup spiral: Jelly Roll, Bunny, and internet theories(13:16)  Oklahoma election recap: runoffs, minimum wage, and cannabis concerns(20:45)  What the governor race could mean for cannabis(25:34)  Life skills, ChatGPT, punctuation panic, and getting dumber gracefully(30:19)  UFC Freedom 250, fight picks, upsets, and patriotic chaos(44:42)  Respect, misinformation, and the lead-in to DEA talk

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon finally drag OKCTL Lab Director Ben Cortez into the studio to talk mold, microbes, and why Oklahoma humidity is basically a supervillain with a weather app.Ben breaks down the real-world science behind microbial failures, Aspergillus testing, total yeast and mold, facility hygiene, R&D testing, and why “the lab sabotaged me” is usually just mold wearing a trench coat. From grow room cleanup to peroxide dunks, ozone, 70% alcohol, and the eternal war against swamp-air cannabis, this one is part science class, part crime scene investigation, part group therapy for failed COAs.

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon unpack what Missouri seems to be getting right: organized industry representation, serious networking, and lobbyist money that actually goes toward moving cannabis policy forward. Meanwhile, Oklahoma gets the side-eye as the conversation turns to business unity, DEA licensing confusion, distributor/manufacturer requirements, and the looming paperwork chaos nobody asked for.Naturally, it doesn’t stay professional for long.(00:00) Intro, WWE energy, and immediate derailment(01:00) Brandon’s Missouri trip and the McCann event(03:20) MOCann quarterly meetings and association structure(05:00) Business-only networking vs. Oklahoma party vibes(06:00) Lobbying money, transparency, and industry organization(08:45) Missouri microbusinesses and license structure(10:30) Testing requirements and market differences(11:40) Workshops, compliance education, and regulatory conversations(14:55) DEA/license application and distributor/manufacturer questions(17:00) Application costs, paperwork, and business responsibility(20:00) Appreciation and workplace banter(21:40) “Keep it creamy” and internet comedian lore(24:00) Crows, ravens, and accidental bird science(27:00) Bald eagles, birdwatching, and questionable life choices(30:45) Rain, concrete ramps, and homeowner problems(32:50) Oklahoma trails, fossils, and geocaching(39:30) Fancy steakhouse recap and lobster bones(45:30) Big Biscuit, sticky biscuits, and breakfast decisionsCome for the compliance talk, stay for the bird war strategy and bone marrow bruschetta.📧: [email protected]🌐: OKCTL.com🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon sit down with Brandon Mosley of Baseline Laboratories for a rare lab-to-lab conversation about cannabis testing, compliance, data integrity, and what it actually takes to run a trusted cannabis laboratory in Oklahoma. From environmental testing roots to cannabis compliance, Brandon shares how Baseline Laboratories grew, why accurate results matter, and why the industry needs more honest conversations between labs instead of tribalism and finger-pointing.This episode dives into the realities of Oklahoma cannabis testing, COA accuracy, potency inflation, lab ethics, and the importance of producing legally defensible cannabis test results. It’s part science, part shop talk, and part controlled chaos — exactly what happens when two cannabis labs finally walk into the same podcast.Shane, Brandon, and Brandon cover:(00:00) Intro: Meet Brandon Mosley of Baseline Laboratories(04:52) Awkward Movie Moments and Childhood Chaos(08:52) Brandon M’s Story: From Environmental Testing to Baseline(16:13) Finding Chemistry, School Stories, Corporal Punishment, and Growing Up in Oklahoma(29:36) Parenting, Work Ethic, and Raising Kids in Real Life(37:05) AI, ChatGPT, the Impact of Tech, and the Future of Work(51:14) Bridging the Gap Between Science and Real-World Sense(53:45) Lab Data, Common Sense, & Defensible Results(01:22:57) Why Lab-to-Lab Communication Matters & EAC Updates(01:44:01) Closing Thoughts with Brandon MosleyIf you work in the Oklahoma cannabis industry, operate a grow or processing facility, care about cannabis compliance testing, or have ever stared at a COA and thought, “That math ain’t mathing,” this episode is for you.💬 Got a wild lab story or testing question? Drop it in the comments.📬 For podcast questions or partnership inquiries: [email protected]📣 Subscribe for more cannabis industry conversations, lab testing insight, compliance chaos, and Controlled Burn nonsense.

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon attempt to talk about cannabis compliance and somehow detour through aliens, offensive comedy, peach trucks, and the emotional support nightmare that is federal paperwork. Eventually, they land the plane on what really matters: DEA registration, GMP-style operations, SOPs, and what cannabis businesses need to understand as the industry moves closer to federal oversight.If you’re a grower, processor, operator, or anyone currently pretending your SOP folder is “basically done,” this episode is your friendly reminder that the clipboard era is coming. The Wild West is getting audited.(00:00) Opening chaos, lab stress, and surviving the week(03:37) The lab team deserves a medal(06:26) Why weighing distillate is a special kind of punishment(11:35) Old-school concentrates, shatter, and early industry memories(15:54) Food truck side quest: horchata, peaches, and soft serve debates(25:10) Pandemic talk, norovirus headlines, and information overload(35:20) UFO files, aliens, and why nobody reacts to anything anymore(38:04) Epstein files, public distrust, and the broken news cycle(48:25) Kevin Hart roast, offensive comedy, and where the line is(53:50) Free speech, social consequences, and podcast censorship concerns(01:03:27) Rescheduling, Registration, and Oklahoma Confusion(01:09:32) SOPs, Shortcuts, and GMP Growing Pains(1:14:46) Big Industry, Big Paperwork, and Lab Appreciation(01:36:50) Outro and what’s coming next💬 Got questions about cannabis testing, compliance, or why your SOPs look like they were written during a tornado? Drop them in the comments.📣 Subscribe for more chaos, compliance, and cannabis commentary📧: [email protected]🌐: OKCTL.com🔗: https://linktr.ee/okctl#CannabisCompliance #DEARegistration #GMP #CannabisTesting #OklahomaCannabis #CannabisIndustry #ControlledBurn #CannabisRescheduling

In this episode of Controlled Burn, we break down a brutal week in the cannabis industry — starting with a lab failure that took down a critical pesticide testing instrument and forced an emergency trip to recover a half-million dollar system.We also dive into the ongoing OMMA Advisory Council shakeups, including member removals, recall process issues, and what it all means for cannabis compliance in Oklahoma. Plus, a new council member we're fans of joins the conversation — and that could shift things in a big way.If you work in cannabis, testing, or compliance, this is a real look at what happens when systems fail and regulations collide.#OMMA #OklahomaCannabis #CannabisLaw #CannabisPolicy #CannabisIndustryNews(00:00) Intro: Pesticide Instrument Failure & Panic Mode(10:05) Hecklers, Bad Decisions, and Chaos(25:30) Industry Talk: OMMA Advisory Council Shakeups(36:25) High-Stress Jobs, Burnout & Work-Life Balance(47:19) Upcoming Guests & What’s Next💬 Thoughts on OMMA right now? Drop them below📬 [email protected]📣 Subscribe for more cannabis compliance + lab insights

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon go from parenting paranoia and GPS surveillance to one of the biggest questions looming over the cannabis industry right now: the DEA registration deadline. With June 22 approaching fast, operators are stuck navigating a mix of speculation, partial guidance, and very real potential consequences.We break down what’s actually known, what’s still unclear, and why waiting this out might not be the safest move. If you’re a grower, processor, or lab, this is one of those conversations you can’t afford to ignore.🔥 Topics include:The June 22 DEA registration deadline — what it means right nowWhat happens if you don’t register (and why no one really knows)How federal oversight could impact cannabis operators overnightSOPs, applications, and why this isn’t “just paperwork”The risk of waiting vs. the cost of acting now(00:00) Intro(00:55) Chaos, Kids, and Consequences(47:50) Breaking Down the DEA Deadline(56:38) MJ Unpacked(59:01) Hao Chen Network Federal Indictment(01:01:00) OMMA’s “Pesticide” Crackdown(01:04:48) Understanding Oklahoma Cannabis Policy Shifts(01:27:18) Outro💬 Are you registering or holding off? Drop your thoughts below.📬 For podcast questions or partnership inquiries: [email protected]

In this episode of Controlled Burn, Shane and Brandon dive into one of the most misunderstood (and underestimated) threats in cannabis: contamination. What starts as a conversation about tornado protocols and compliance quickly spirals into real-world lab mysteries, unexpected failures, and the tiny oversights that can cost brands everything. From air duster mishaps to mold hiding in plain sight, this episode is a masterclass in how contamination actually happens, and why it’s usually not where you think.🔥 Topics include:How “clean” processes still lead to failed resultsThe air duster incident that caused a butane contaminationHidden mold sources and why your environment matters more than you thinkWhy R&D testing is the difference between launching and losingThe reality of lab testing: what happens after your sample leaves your facility(0:00) Intro: The Reality of Sales(3:30) Severe Weather & Compliance Protocols(6:17)  How Labs Test the Unknown(13:11 ) How Labs Find Hidden Contamination Sources(32:32) MJ Unpacked(33:54) The Cannabis Rescheduling Rumors(37:45) OutroIf you’ve ever said “there’s no way this should fail”… this episode is for you.📣 Got a contamination horror story? Drop it in the comments.📬 For questions or partnerships: [email protected]