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Crime Insiders
by LiSTNR
Crime Insiders is LiSTNR's home of true crime. DETECTIVES hears from the professionals behind some of the world's most gripping criminal investigations. Hosted by former police officer Brent Sanders, the series features law enforcement operatives who were either first on the scene or painstakingly pieced together evidence long after the dust had settled. Raw, revealing and deeply personal, these conversations take you inside the interview rooms, crime scenes, and sleepless nights that define the pursuit of justice. FORENSICS takes you deep inside the minds and methods of the world’s top forensic experts. Hosted by award-winning journalist and true crime author Dr Liz Porter, these interviews cut through the TV clichés to reveal what forensic science really looks like - up close, complex, and constantly evolving. From the techniques that crack high-profile cases to the breakthroughs that exonerate the innocent, these are the real stories behind the science of solving crime.JUDGEM
Episodes
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DETECTIVES | The Rat Pack
When former Queensland Police Setective Keith Banks joined the force, he thought he was signing up to fight crime, not work alongside it. In this episode of Crime Insiders Detectives, Keith takes host Brent Sanders inside the world of outlaw motorcycle gangs, where power, loyalty and fear ruled…
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REWIND | The cult of The Family
Have you ever heard of the Australian cult The Family...? It was led by a woman named Anne Hamilton-Byrne. How did she control her followers? How did the police eventually catch her? And what happened to the dozens of children that were in the 'care' of The Family. Lex de Man investigated The...
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FORENSICS | How a high-profile husband walked free
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JUDGEMENTS | When a former PM took on the media [Lange v ABC]
In the early 1990s, former New Zealand Prime Minister David Lange found himself at the center of a defamation storm in Australia. The ABC re-broadcast allegations suggesting he acted improperly while in office. Lange sued, sparking a legal battle that reached the High Court and tested the limits…
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REWIND | The Wattle Flower murder
The body of 27-year-old mother of two, Samantha Bodsworth, was found in Noosa, surrounded by wattle trees. The killer thinks it’s the perfect crime, but what they underestimated was the power of the tiny, silent witnesses clinging to almost everything they touched – pollen. In this Rewind episode...
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DETECTIVES | Surveillance, war zones & survival
Andrew Atkinson is a former Victorian police officer. In this episode of Crime Insiders | Detectives, Andrew discusses his journey from general duties to the Technical Surveillance Unit and his deployments with the United Nations in Timor and Iraq. He candidly addresses the impact of…
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JUDGEMENTS | The fight for recovered treasure [Robinson v WA Museum]
A ship is wrecked off the coast of Western Australia. It’s cargo sank with it. Many of those on board perished in the tragedy. Who owns what remains on board the ship at the bottom of the Ocean? Back in the 1970s, one man decided to find out. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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REWIND | The lie detective (how well could you lie?)
Would you be able to get away with lying? In this Rewind episode of Crime Insiders | Detectives, expert lie detector Steve Van Aperen talks to former host Adam Shand about the clear give aways of liars, how certain criminals have tried to clear a lie detector test and some of the biggest murder...
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BONUS | Antoinette Lattouf speaks with Forensics host, Dr Liz Porter
In this special bonus episode of Crime Insiders, we go behind the scenes with our Forensics host, Liz Porter to find out what it was about forensics that lured her into her extraordinary career. Weekend Briefing host Antoinette Lattouf digs deep with Liz about how forensics is not what you see on...
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JUDGEMENTS | An innocent man acquitted after 20 years [R v Keogh]
A murder, a conviction and a twenty-year fight to clear your name. This is the story of Henry James Keogh who was convicted and served twenty years in prison for a murder he didn't commit. How did he finally receive justice and what can we learn from the botched forensic procedures that led to…
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REWIND | How tattoos can lead investigators to criminals
More Aussies have tattoos than ever before; 1 in 5 of us have at least 1 tattoo. That number is growing. Even when removed or burnt, forensic experts can use tattoos to identify offenders and victims of crimes. This is one of many techniques forensic photographers like Karen Byrne use to document...
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DETECTIVES | Australia's most famous 'Mr Big' operation
Professor Paul Bleakley is a Gold Coast-born academic based in Kentucky in the United States. He’s an expert on child abuse and investigative developments. In this episode of Crime Insiders | Detectives, Paul talks us through Queensland’s Strike Force Argos. He also tells host Brent Sanders about...
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JUDGEMENTS | The NSW Police Headquarters shooting [R v Alou & Ors]
Police employee Curtis Cheng was shot dead outside Police Headquarters in Parramatta, Sydney, 10 years ago this week. The gunman was a 15-year-old boy radicalised by religious extremists. In this episode of Crime Insiders Judgements, uncover how a teenager came to be wielding a pistol on a quiet...
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REWIND | The Sydney Bra Boys murder
Sydney standover man Tony Hines' body was found strewn against a cliff face in Maroubra in 2003. How did police begin their investigation, and what contributed to the eventual outcome of the case? Former NSW Deputy Police Commissioner Dave Owens is one of the state's most respected officers, and...
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FORENSICS | The Orange County family death pact
Five bodies. Three generations. One room. Zero answers. In 2008, a luxury home in California’s Orange County became the site of an unimaginable discovery. Inside were the decomposed bodies of five family members, spanning three generations. But there was no note, no clear motive, and no sign of...
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JUDGEMENTS | The Claremont Serial Killer [R v Edwards]
In the 1990s, young women began vanishing from Perth’s wealthy suburb of Claremont. The disappearances sparked fear across the city, and launched Australia’s longest-running homicide investigation. For nearly two decades, the Claremont Serial Killer remained a mystery. Then, advances in DNA...
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REWIND | The Yorkshire Ripper
A merciless serial killer terrorised women in the United Kingdom with a spate of brutal attacks, leaving police and forensic experts stumped. Now, almost 50 years later, forensics has learned, and built more advanced technologies that could've helped catch the killer sooner, and potentially saved...
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DETECTIVES | Surviving the Russell Street Bombing
In 1986, a car bomb ripped through Melbourne’s Russell Street Police Headquarters, killing one and injuring 21. It was Australia’s first taste of domestic terrorism, a shocking ‘revenge attack’ that turned the heart of the city into a war zone. Among the injured was then-21-year-old Constable…
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JUDGEMENTS | The man who proved Australia was never 'empty' [Mabo v QLD]
In 1992, the High Court handed down a ruling that shattered centuries of denial. Eddie Mabo’s fight for recognition overturned the legal fiction of terra nullius and forever changed Australia’s relationship with its First Peoples. This landmark decision not only rewrote the nation’s story but…
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REWIND | The Boggo Road Prison escape
In March 1991, five violent offenders stole a prison garbage truck and smashed their way through the gates of Brisbane’s notorious Boggo Road Gaol. The pursuit that followed left the country and those watching live on Channel 7 stunned. Shaun O'Gorman is one of Queensland's most experienced…
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FORENSICS | Bones in a Victorian Mineshaft
In 2006, underworld figure Lee Patrick Torney vanished without a trace. Nearly a year later, forensic anthropologist Dr. Soren Blau was lowered into an abandoned mineshaft outside the old gold-mining township of Chewton, near Castlemaine, Victoria. Soren pieced together the secret clues hidden on...
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BONUS | The fugitive who outsmarted police for 30-years
In 2021, a neatly dressed man in his 60s walks into a Sydney Police Station. He looks like a regular guy. But police are stunned - this isn’t just any man. It’s Darko Desic. A fugitive who escaped from Grafton Prison with a hacksaw and bolt cutters three decades earlier. A man who was a prolific...
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JUDGEMENTS | The Brisbane toolbox murders [R v Daniels & Ors]
Two people vanish without a trace from Logan, south of Brisbane in Queensland. They hadn’t been seen in days. Their phones rang out. Their social media...silent. Something had happened, but no one could possibly have predicted what was about to unfold… This episode contains references to violent...
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REWIND | The Worlds End murders
It took 37 years, a failed murder trial, and an Australian mathematician to finally prosecute one of Scotland's most infamous serial killers. Professor David Balding is a pioneer in the field of mathematical computational genetics. In this Rewind episode of Crime Insiders Forensics, former host...
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BONUS | Mushroom Murderer Erin Patterson is a 'narcissistic psychopath'
The courtroom drama that gripped Australia has finally reached its conclusion. Erin Patterson, the woman at the centre of the nation’s most infamous murder case in recent history, has been sentenced to life for three counts of murder. Justice Beale did not hold back in his scathing remarks…
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DETECTIVES | How a frauditor took on London's Met Police
Dr Peter Tickner is a seasoned auditor with over 40 years of experience across the NHS, central government and police. Peter became Head of Internal Audit of Her Majesty’s Treasury in 1988. In 1995 Peter left to become Director of Internal Audit for the Met Police, a post he held until early...
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JUDGEMENTS | Determining criminal enterprise [Miller v Miller]
A stolen car, a drunken joyride, and a woman left with injuries so severe, she’ll live with them for the rest of her life. What happens when a crime becomes a civil lawsuit? When the thief becomes the victim and the driver becomes the one left holding the legal wheel? Miller v Miller is one of...
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REWIND | The Bega schoolgirl murders
In 1997, two young girls from Bega in regional New South Wales were kidnapped, raped and murdered. In this Rewind episode of Crime Insiders | Detectives, former host Adam Shand talks with former NSW Detective Sergeant Mark Winterflood to sift through the details and process of receiving the first...
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FORENSICS | The 13-year-old Australian charged with terrorism
Aged just 13, Thomas Carrick was placed under covert surveillance by the Australian Federal Police and lured into online conversations with them, posing as fake ISIS operatives. Ultimately, he was charged with terrorism offences. The most powerful intelligence agencies in the country knew Thomas...
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BONUS | The ‘Accident’ – Killer Charm
A woman wakes to a tragic accident on her rural Queensland property. She’s told one of her friends has fallen into a woodchipper. He was clearing trees with two other men at the time, but police soon suspect his death was no mishap and a murder investigation commences. They want to find the…
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BONUS | 'Baby faced' killer Sef Gonzales could walk free
Triple murderer Sef Gonzales has been granted the right to appeal against his life sentence. Gonzales was just 23 when he murdered his parents and sister over 20 years ago. Sef has always maintained his innocence. Today, the NSW Court of Criminal Appeal granted him the right to appeal because...
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JUDGEMENTS | The Childers Backpacker fire [R v Long]
Twenty years ago this year, Michael Long set fire to the Palace Backpackers hostel in the regional Queensland town of Childers. Fifteen people were killed, nine men and six women. Long inititally admitted to the crimes, but later retracted his confession. In this episode of Crime Insiders |...
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REWIND | The Vampire Gigolo
Richard Bassed is one of Australia's most experienced forensic odontologists. His work is complex and important in solving high profile murders - like that of The Vampire Gigolo - but also, in identifying victims of mass fatalities and mass disasters. In this Rewind episode of Crime Insiders |...
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DETECTIVES | A detective's theory on how a Brisbane man disappeared
Former QLD Detective Inspector Mal Gundry was head of the Queensland Police Criminal Investigation Bureau at Indooroopilly in Brisbane. He was integral part of the investigation into Sean Sargent, a 24-year-old Australian Army lieutenant, who disappeared in the early hours of March 20, 1999…
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JUDGEMENTS | The Angel of Belanglo [R v Holdom]
Karlie Pearce-Stevenson and her daughter Khandalyce Pearce were tragically murdered in 2008 in a case that shocked Australia. Their deaths remained unsolved for several years, with their identities and the circumstances of their deaths only being uncovered in 2015. In this episode of Crime…
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REWIND | Filicide and the impact on investigators
A crime without a motive. A detective who investigated the unthinkable. On September 2nd, 2001, a father murdered his three children, Jackson (6), Taylah (11 months), and Mikaylah (11 weeks). To this day, his motive remains unknown. Former Detective Carla Tomadini was on the frontline of the...
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FORENSICS | Reporting sexual assault in Palestine
Reporting a sexual assault is deeply challenging in any context, so what happens when you’re in a war-torn region, where infrastructure has crumbled, and justice systems are non-existent? Associate Professor David Wells retired as Victoria's top forensic physician in 2013. Since then, his work…
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JUDGEMENTS | Cleo Smith abduction (R v Kelly)
In the dead of night, Friday October 15, 2021, on the rugged coastline of Western Australia, four-year old Cleo Smith is abducted from a tent at a campsite. Her disappearance sparked a massive police search and captured the nation’s attention with ‘round the clock media coverage. The child was...
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REWIND | A special Science Week episode
It’s National Science Week….Australia’s annual celebration of science and technology. In this episode of Crime Insiders Rewind, we re-visit three episodes of our Forensics series to learn how science helps us better understand how examining the human body contributes to solving crime or even...
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BONUS | The science that cleared Kathleen Folbigg
Kathleen Folbigg is front page of every newspaper and news website this morning after we learned the NSW government had paid her just $2million in compensation after she served twenty years in prison after being wrongfully jailed for the deaths of her four children. NSW Premier Chris Minns has…
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DETECTIVES | Hidden scars, the price of service
In this episode, Brent Sanders speaks with former NSW Police officer Justyn Backhouse, who spent 25 years on the front lines of law enforcement. From high-speed pursuits to complex aerial rescues, Justin’s career spanned some of the most intense and demanding roles in policing. But behind the...
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BREAKING | New poisoning claims vs mushroom murderer Erin Patterson
Here's all the evidence the jury in the mushroom triple murder trial wasn't allowed to hear. In this special episode, The Briefing's host Tara Cassidy joins us to reveal allegations that murderer Erin Patterson had tried to poison and kill her estranged ex-husband Simon multiple times. Until…
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JUDGEMENTS | R v Gargasoulas [Melbourne car massacre]
Friday January 20, 2017 in Melbourne’s CBD. Bustling Bourke Street became the scene of unspeakable horror. Six people were killed, 27 others suffered horrific injuries when James Gargasoulas – high on drugs – deliberately drove his car through a crowd of shoppers. It was one of the worst examples...
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REWIND | The horror of the Hoddle St massacre
A tragedy that rocked Melbourne in the late 80s, and one that left the nation questioning its own attitude towards guns and violence. Former Commissioner of Victoria Police Kel Glare was just a few months away from getting the top job when an armed gunman killed seven and injured 19 people in...
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FORENSICS | Mr. Cruel
David Wells was the Victoria Police Surgeon during one of Australia’s most disturbing unsolved crime sprees - the abductions and assaults of three young girls, and the suspected murder of a fourth, by the predator known only as Mr Cruel. In this powerful and rare interview, Associate Professor...
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JUDGEMENTS | A brutal FNQ murder (R v Lowrie & Ross)
In July 1995, sex worker Grace Heathcote was lured to a Cairns motel under the guise of friendship — but what unfolded was a brutal murder. Her body was discovered in a motel room with injuries so severe they shocked experienced forensic pathologists. Within days, two women — Kerry Catherine…
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REWIND | Exhumed: what the dead still tell us
Have you ever watched a movie where police exhume a body? Why does it happen? And what do forensics learn by doing it? Dr Jo Duflou is a privately practicing forensic pathologist. He's worked across a range of forensic fields and has performed thousands of autopsies, examinations and post mortem...
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DETECTIVES | The dangerous life of a police dog handler
David Raymond spent almost 30 years as a QLD Police dog handler. He caught killers, found people reported missing and saved the lives of people who had attempted self harm. In this episode of Crime Insiders | Detectives, Brent Sanders sits down with David to learn what it's like to spend your…
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JUDGEMENTS | R v Gerard Baden-Clay
In 2012, Brisbane father and real estate agent Gerard Baden-Clay reported his wife missing. Ten days later, Allison Baden-Clay’s body was found beneath a bridge, and suspicion turned to her husband. This is a story of betrayal, an outstanding forensic investigation and a series of red flags that...
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REWIND | Surveilling a high-profile sports star
This Rewind episode tells the story of how the Newcastle Knights superstar was covertly surveilled and arrested for drug trafficking. It threw his career and sport into disrepute - and, gave an insight into the fascinating culture of organised crime and sport in Australia. As well as arresting…
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Crime Insiders is LiSTNR's home of true crime. DETECTIVES hears from the professionals behind some of the world's most gripping criminal investigations. Hosted by former police officer Brent Sanders, the series features law enforcement operatives who were either first on the scene or painstakingly pieced together evidence long after the dust had settled. Raw, revealing and deeply personal, these conversations take you inside the interview rooms, crime scenes, and sleepless nights that define the pursuit of justice. FORENSICS takes you deep inside the minds and methods of the world’s top forensic experts. Hosted by award-winning journalist and true crime author Dr Liz Porter, these interviews cut through the TV clichés to reveal what forensic science really looks like - up close, complex, and constantly evolving. From the techniques that crack high-profile cases to the breakthroughs that exonerate the innocent, these are the real stories behind the science of solving crime.JUDGEM
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