PODCAST · true crime
CrimeChat with Nat and Kat
by Natalie White and Kathleen Adams
We’re just two girls who simply indulge in their obsession with Dark Crimes, Evil Minds and occasionally the Unknown. With a background in federal law enforcement, Kat is dubbed as your Forensic Femme Fatale. Nat is your True Crime Addict Connoisseur with a background in behavioral science. Throw in the ABCs–alcohol, beauty, and comedy-with a bit of blood spatter, and you have the one and only CrimeChat with Nat and Kat Podcast! Find us on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and at https://crimechatwithnatandkat.com! Plus, subscribe to our Patreon for exclusive content, behind-the-scenes and free merch -- www.patreon.com/crimechatwithnatandkat
Episodes
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CrimeChat Case Updates #6
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents another Case Update -- this time with some crazy headlines and a guest-- and your 6th one for #seasonfive 🚨Kat dishes the latest CrimeChat case updates with friend and guest host, Caryn, including: Kori Richins (Episode 061), Alex Murdaugh (Episode 100), and...
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Episode 165: Bruce Lee ~ Legend, Loss, & the Last Night
#crimechatwithnatandkat present Episode 165: Bruce Lee ~ Legend, Loss, & the Last Night! On July 20, 1973, 32-year-old actor and martial arts icon, Bruce Lee, died suddenly...sparking a mystery still talked about today. Was it painkillers, cannabis, heatstroke, water intoxication, a jealous…
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Episode 164: The Rise & Fall of Laurence Duggan
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents Episode 164: The Rise & Fall of Laurence Duggan! On December 20, 1948, State Department employee, Laurence Duggan, was found clinging to life on a snow-covered Manhattan sidewalk--he'd fallen from the 16th floor of his office building. As the investigation…
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Episode 163: The WoW Incel Killer
Episode 163: The WoW Incel Killer! Elliot Rodger didn’t see himself as a killer. He saw himself as the victim. Ignored. Rejected. Overlooked. He spent a lot of time online playing games like World of Warcraft and Halo. While there’s no proof that specific games caused his behavior, his lifestyle...
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Episode 162: The Mystery of the Somerton Man
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode 162: The Mystery of the Somerton Man! On December 1, 1948, the body of an unidentified mad was found on Somerton Beach in Adelaide, Australia. The more police tried to find the identity of the man, the more the mystery unfolded. The Rubaiyat of Omar…
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Episode 161: Zipped Shut! The Killing of Jorge Torres
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you this week's Episode 161: Zipped Shut! The Killing of Jorge Torres! Kat kicks off this ep with the TOP 10 List of the Transportation Security Administration's most recent “Hall of Shame”—the wildest, weirdest, and most “what-the-hell-were-they-thinking?” items...
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BONUS - Episode UPDATE 04 for #season5
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents another Case Update! Your 4th one for #seasonfive 🚨Nat's updates include Gypsy Rose Blanchard (Episode 096) and the atrocities of Unit 731 (Episode 033). Then, Kat updates us on The Sixth Floor Museum, from our Lee Harvey Oswald two-parter (Episodes 038 & 039)…
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Episode 160: The Traveling Serial Killer!
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode 160: The Traveling Serial Killer! Nat kicks it off by dropping some deets on 1970s America... the crime, the fashion, the chaos! Then, Kat gets into the seemingly ordinary life of Robert Frederick Carr III. A husband. A father. A TV repairman. All seemed...
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Episode 159: Movie vs Reality -- SCREAM
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you this week's Episode 159: Movie vs Reality -- SCREAM! Kat kicks off by dropping some deets about the "scream queen" phenomenon. Then, Nat breaks down the original 1996 movie, "Scream," which inspired a real murder! While house-sitting in what should have been a...
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Episode 158: Control, Obsession, & a Beauty Salon ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents Episode 158: Control, Obsession, & a Beauty Salon ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment! In 2002, when 17-year-old Michelle Gomez broke things off with her daughter's father, 26-year-old Jerry DeLeon, he couldn't let it go. He became obsessive! He tracked her down at La...
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BONUS - Episode UPDATE 03 for #season5
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents another Case Update! Update #3 includes 19 Crimes Wine (Episode 001) and The Woman in the Box, Colleen Stan (Episode 144). Plus, two Season Two Crime & Cosmetics Episodes: The Lime Crime Scandal (Episode 044) and Maybe It's Consumption?! (Episode 067)! Case…
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#sneakpeek for #bonus Episode 157: VANISHED! The Disappearing Professor #series
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents our #season5 #series #theme #bonus ~ Episode 150: #VANISHED! The Disappearing Professor! In March 1969, a brilliant history professor named Thomas Riha stepped out of his house in Boulder, Colorado, and walked straight into one of the most enduring mysteries of…
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Episode 156: Joseph Kallinger and the Murderous Floating Head
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you this week's Episode 156: Joseph Kallinger and the Murderous Floating Head! Kat kicks it off by getting delusional... well, describing delusions. Then, Nat dives deep into her story on Joseph Kallinger -- a man who set off huge red flags, but the system looked the...
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Episode 155: The Demons of Diane Downs
#crimechatwithnatandkat present Episode 155: The Demons of Diane Downs! Whether or not you believe demons are folklore or reality, they are said to exploit moments of intense fear, trauma, or profound inner wounds to incite chaos, rebellion, and harm. In doing so, this can create vulnerabilities...
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Episode 154: Another Pig Farm Killer!
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you this week's Episode 154: Another Pig Farm Killer! In the 1990s and early 2000s, a pig farm in British Columbia stood unnoticed. No warnings. No signs. Just mud, animals, and junk. This is a story of “Another Pig Farm Killer” not to be confused with Susan Monica!...
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BONUS - Episode UPDATE 02 for #season5
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents another Case Update! Update #2 includes JonBenét Ramsey (Episode 006); Kouri Richins (Episode 061); Jesani Carter & Jordan Ruby (New Year's Eve Crimes BONUS Episode 042); and Kathleen Folbigg (Season Two Finale Episode 072)! These are airing every 1st Saturday of...
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Episode 153: Premeditated Patricide!
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode 153: Premediated Patricide! In this Chatter Request, Nat and Kat explore this current and on-going case. In November 2025, 69-year-old Roger Pitt, Sr. was reported missing... then his body was found on his property. Roger's son, 46-year-old Rodney Pitt…
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Episode 152: THE MAD CHOPPER
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode152 - THE MAD CHOPPER! Before you hit play, fair warning — this is not an easy story. In 1978, a teenage girl trusted the wrong person… and paid for it in ways no one should ever have to imagine. What followed was an act of cruelty so extreme it still…
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#special #crossover Episode 151: The Crown & The Cartel ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment with #LiveLaughLarceny
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you a very special #firstever crossover episode -- Trevin & Amanda from @LiveLaughLarcenyPodcast join us in Episode 151: The Crown & The Cartel ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment! A once-crowned Miss Indiana Latina beauty queen, Glenis Zapata, lived a life in a glamorous...
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BONUS - Episode UPDATE 01 for #season5
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents our first regular UPDATES! This update includes Kouri Richins (Episode 061); Krampus (Episode 078); and Execution by Firing Squad (Episode 124)! These are airing every 1st Saturday of the month, during #season5, anywhere you get your favorite #truecrimepodcast!...
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#sneakpeek for #bonus Episode 150: VANISHED! The Disappearance of Joe Pichler & The Sullivan Siblings #season5 #series
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents the #sneakpeek for our first #bonusepisode of #season5 with Episode 150: #VANISHED! The Disappearance of Joe Pichler & The Sullivan Siblings! Nat kicks off with the deets on the 2006 disappearance of child actor Joe Pichler, who went missing at age 18 under...
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Episode 149: Monster - The Ed Gein Story
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you this week's Episode 149: Monster - The Ed Gein Story! Kat kicks off dissecting the term "necromania mutilation" and then quizzes Nat on her necro- knowledge! Then, Nat gets into the world of horror Ed Gein hid behind boarded-up windows and locked doors. With…
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Episode 148: Land Between the Lakes ~ The Unsolved Murders of Vickie Stout & Carla Atkins
#crimechatwithnatandkat present Episode 148: Land Between the Lakes! In 1980, two sisters --Vickie Stout and Carla Atkins-- went missing in Dover, Tennessee, near Land Between the Lakes National Recreation Area. Only 18 days later, their lifeless bodies were discovered by hikers... Police had…
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Episode 147: VANISHED ~ The Sodder Children & Lord Lucan #season5 #premiere
Hey there #chatters -- #wereback again for a NEW SEASON! #crimechatwithnatandkat #season5 #newseries and #theme is "VANISHED!" This season includes mysterious disappearings of suspects, victims, evidence, and more... all covered in our #seasonpremiere, #bonus #episodes, and our #seasonfinale ~ As...
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#season4 #finale Episode 146: Into the Unknown ~ The Hauntings of Pearl Bryan & The Whaley House
#crimechatwithnatandkat brings you the #teaser for our #season4 #finale with Episode 146: Into the Unknown ~ The Hauntings of Pearl Bryan & The Whaley House! We wrap up this amazing season's Into the Unknown series with murder, mischief and more! Find out how Pearl Bryan was murdered and let us...
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Episode 145: The Black Widow's Web ~ The Orsini Murders
#crimechatwithnatandkat present Episode 145: The Black Widow's Web ~ The Orsini Murders! In the 1980s, Mary "Lee" Orsini's husband was mysteriously shot in the head while he slept ... no weapon ... no evidence ... no witnesses! Then, Lee's lawyer's wife was shot in cold blood from men pretending…
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Episode 144: The Woman in a Box
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents this week's Episode 144: The Woman in a Box! This story comes with a heavy warning—as one of the most extreme cases of abduction, torture, and captivity—even too disturbing for Hollywood! In 1972, in California, 19-year-old Cameron Hooker manipulated and…
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Re-Release of Episode 082: The Disappearance of Dail Dinwiddie
Hey there, #Chatters! In Season 4, #crimechatwithnatandkat are re-releasing of some of our favorite and most-liked episodes, on the first Saturday of the month, while we research and prep for more stories of dark crimes, evil minds, and occasionally the unknown. This is our LAST re-release of...
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#sneakpeek for our #season4 #bonus Episode 143: Into the Unknown ~ The Bell Witch & Spring-Heeled Jack
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents an audio #sneakpeek for our #season4 #bonus #series --Episode 143: Into the Unknown ~ The Bell Witch & Spring-Heeled Jack! Nat and Kat dissect more folklore as we dive into the 19th Century, digging up the stories of the Bell Witch in Tennessee and Spring-Heeled...
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Episode 142: The Sherlock Holmes of France ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode 142: The Sherlock Holmes of France ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment! In 1912, 19-year-old Marie Latelle was murdered in her parents' France home. There were no witnesses. No fingerprints. No evidence. No forensics… or were there? Nat kicks off detailing how...
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Episode 141 - WILD WEST - The Cannibal Cowboy - Alfred Packer
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents this week's Episode 141: The Wild West & The Cannibal Cowboy #AlferdPacker! The #wildwest was, well, WILD! Kat breaks down the wild west atmospherics where survival meant everything... even as conflicts emerged between the #outlaws and the #lawmen. Then, Nat digs...
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Episode 140: Lost and Found - The Story of Luis Armando Albino
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode 140: Lost and Found - The Story of Luis Armando Albino! Children who are kidnapped are a parent's worst fear... Nat starts with some abduction stats. Then, Kat tells the story of six-year-old Luis Armando Albino, whose family just migrated from Puerto…
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Re-Release of Episode 060: A Deep Sea Death
Hey there, #Chatters! In Season 4, #crimechatwithnatandkat are re-releasing of some of our favorite and most-liked episodes, on the first Saturday of the month, while we research and prep for more stories of dark crimes, evil minds, and occasionally the unknown. This week, we are ending our...
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Episode 139: The Acid King
#crimechatwithnatandkat brings you Episode 139: The Acid King! In the midst of #satanicpanic, widespread hysteria was characterized by satanic cult activity and ritual abuse. Kat starts off with some devilish facts & stats about #satanicpanic you may not be aware of. Then, we dive into Nat's…
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Episode 138: Murder by Shark!
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode 138: Murder by Shark! Is it possible for a shark be used as a murder weapon? Or as an accessory to murder? In this episode, Nat quizzes Kat on her shark knowledge with Sharkie or Malarkie! Then, Kat dives into three horrific stories of instances were…
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Episode 137: Movie vs. Reality🎬Real Exorcism. Real Audio. Real Tragedy. | The Exorcism of Emily Rose vs. Anneliese Michel
#crimechatwithnatandkat present this week's Episode 137 - Real Exorcism. Real Audio. Real Tragedy. | Movie vs. Reality🎬The Exorcism of Emily Rose vs. Anneliese Michel | REAL 6 DEMON AUDIO! 😱 You’ve seen The Exorcism of Emily Rose... but what if we told you the real story is even darker? This…
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Re-Release of Episode 102: The Shark Arm Murder Case
Hey there, #Chatters! In Season 4, #crimechatwithnatandkat are re-releasing of some of our favorite and most-liked episodes, on the first Saturday of the month, while we research and prep for more stories of dark crimes, evil minds, and occasionally the unknown. This week, we are re-releasing one...
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Episode 136: Allie Shehorn ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents Episode 136: Allie Shehorn ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment! This story takes us behind the scenes of the attempted murder of one of Hollywood’s award-winning makeup and special effects artists, Allie Shehorn. Three days after being issued a restraining order against...
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Episode 135: The Walls are Watching - The Daniel LaPlante Story
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you the Episode 135: The Walls Are Watching - The Daniel LaPlante Story! Troubled teenager, Daniel LaPlante, had a tough childhood including development, fueling feelings of abandonment, bitterness, and resentment toward authority figures. By age 15, Daniel’s...
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Episode 134: Code Name TRIGON
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you Episode 134: Code Name TRIGON! In 1977, Martha “Marti” Peterson was the first female CIA case officer to operate in Moscow. By day, Marti was an administrative clerk at the US Embassy. By night, a CIA case officer. Especially in Moscow during the Cold War, the…
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Re-Release of Episode 051: The Spy Robert Hanssen
Hey there, #Chatters! In Season 4, #crimechatwithnatandkat are re-releasing of some of our favorite and most-liked episodes, on the first Saturday of the month, while we research and prep for more stories of dark crimes, evil minds, and occasionally the unknown. This week, we are re-releasing one...
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#sneakpeek for #bonus Episode 133: Into the Unknown ~ Creepy Ass Dolls #season4 #series
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents this week's #sneakpeek #audio for our #season4 #bonus #series with Episode 133: Into the Unknown ~ Creepy Ass Dolls! Nat and Kat dissect more of the unknown as we dive into infamous demonic dolls who are the cause of our worst nightmares! A #sneakpeek on these two...
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Episode 132: The Trunk Murderess
#crimechatwithnatandkat brings you this week's Episode 132: The Trunk Murderess! When Winnie McKinnell arrived at a train station with two trunks, no one would have guessed the horror inside. In 1931, when this "Trunk Murderess" was caught, she said she was attacked by two of her friends and she...
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Episode 131: Downfall of an Heir ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents Episode 131: Downfall of an Heir ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment! Popularizing the term "make-up," Max Factor created an epic cosmetics company from the ground up! Nearly 100 years later, his great-grandson, Andrew Luster, was arrested for drugging and raping a...
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Episode 130: Christa Gail Pike - The Devil Made Her Do It!
#crimechatwithnatandkat bring you this week's Episode 130: Christa Gail Pike - The Devil Made Her Do It! First, Kat breaks down #thebystandereffect and why people don't intervene when someone is in trouble. Then, Nat dives deep into the twisted life of Christa Gail Pike. From her drug use to her...
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Episode 130: Christa Pike - The Devil Made Her Do It
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents Episode 130: The Devil Made her do it - Christa Pike. In this chilling episode, we delve into the disturbing case of Christa Pike — a teenager whose obsession with dark rituals, jealousy, and control led to one of the most brutal murders in Tennessee history. At...
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Re-Release of Episode 066: What's Sch-Business? Taylor Schabusiness
Hey there, #Chatters! In Season 4, #crimechatwithnatandkat are re-releasing of some of our favorite and most-liked episodes, on the first Saturday of the month, while we research and prep for more stories of dark crimes, evil minds, and occasionally the unknown. In light of Episode 129: The Bold...
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Episode 129: The Bold and the Beheaded
#crimechatwithnatandkat presents Episode 129: The Bold and the Beheaded! U.S. Army Sgt. Steve Schap was a man with purpose and drive. To Steve, commitments mattered. He took an oath to defend his country and joined the U.S. Army. He pledged faithfulness to his wife, Diane. And to his friends, he...
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Episode 128: Paranormal Theories, The Afterlife & a Dybbuk Box
🕯️ This Week on CrimeChat with Nat and Kat – Episode 128: Paranormal Theories, The Afterlife & the Dybbuk Box 👻 Get ready for chills in this week’s teaser of Episode 128! Kat shares her personal haunted experiences, and Nat dives deep into the weird and the unexplained—covering The Stone Tape...
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Episode 127: Boy George ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment!
#crimechatwithnatandkat brings you Episode 127: Boy George ~ A Crime & Cosmetics Segment! Nat kicks off the episode with how musician's signature styles can shape how they are seen and how they act--good and bad! Then, Kat breaks down the life story of Boy George, the 1980s icon and leader singer...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
We’re just two girls who simply indulge in their obsession with Dark Crimes, Evil Minds and occasionally the Unknown. With a background in federal law enforcement, Kat is dubbed as your Forensic Femme Fatale. Nat is your True Crime Addict Connoisseur with a background in behavioral science. Throw in the ABCs–alcohol, beauty, and comedy-with a bit of blood spatter, and you have the one and only CrimeChat with Nat and Kat Podcast! Find us on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and at https://crimechatwithnatandkat.com! Plus, subscribe to our Patreon for exclusive content, behind-the-scenes and free merch -- www.patreon.com/crimechatwithnatandkat
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How many episodes does CrimeChat with Nat and Kat have?
CrimeChat with Nat and Kat currently has 195 episodes available on PodParley. New episodes are automatically indexed when they're published to the podcast feed.
What is CrimeChat with Nat and Kat about?
We’re just two girls who simply indulge in their obsession with Dark Crimes, Evil Minds and occasionally the Unknown. With a background in federal law enforcement, Kat is dubbed as your Forensic Femme Fatale. Nat is your True Crime Addict Connoisseur with a background in behavioral science. Throw...
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