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CRO.CAFE English
by Guido X Jansen
Tune in as cognitive psychologist and award-winning CRO specialist Guido X Jansen grills his expert guests on experimentation, user research, digital marketing and everything in between.Funny. Real. Raw. And never boring. Every episode of the CRO.CAFE is filled with knowledge bombs that will inspire and motivate you, as well as give you practical tools to help you up your CRO game.Join 14K+ subscribers for the world's most exciting, raw discussions on experimentation, CRO, user research and digital marketing from the industry leaders who live and breathe it.Start listening right now with 100+ episodes on tap!
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Are we creating AI solutions or just chasing problems?
Are we creating AI solutions or just chasing problems? 🤔It feels like everyone is jumping on the AI bandwagon. Heck, that is what this weeks Space Academy event is all about! But let's also acknowledge that many of us are sometimes simply looking for problems to fit the solutions we’ve created, rather than solving real issues... 😳Research suggests that this year, 60% of companies investing in AI will abandon most of their projects due to inadequate foundations and guardrails. We're in an age of exploration, trying to optimize what we have, yet many are left with a closet of abandoned AI ideas (I know I have....).In this CRO.CAFE Podcast episode, Juliana J. and I explore the current state of AI experimentation, the common challenges organizations encounter, and how to build a robust framework for successful AI deployment.She will be MCing this weeks Space Academy event (organized by Experimentation Elite)
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From CRO to AXO: Adapting to AI in Digital Marketing
Discover how AI is transforming online experiences. Learn about the implications for industries and what it means for digital marketing strategies.## About SaniSani is a well-recognized name in the field of web optimization, boasting over 15 years of experience. He is the host of the NoHacks podcast, where he delves into various topics surrounding web technologies and digital marketing. With a keen eye on the future, Sani is also one of the organizers of the Future of Experimentation conference, where he shares his expertise on AI and its applications in experimentation.## The Shift from CRO to AXOIn our conversation, Sani highlighted a significant shift from Conversion Rate Optimization (CRO) to what he refers to as AI-Driven Experience Optimization (AXO). This new paradigm emphasizes the importance of understanding that the next million visitors to your website may not be human. Instead, they could be AI systems designed to interact with your platform. ## Key Takeaways- Understanding the shift from CRO to AXO is essential for marketers today. - AI can significantly enhance personalization, automate interactions, and provide predictive insights. - Collaboration between AI and human resources is key to optimizing workflows and achieving better results.## Links* https://slobodanmanic.com/* https://www.nohackspod.com/* https://experimentationelite.com/
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AI's Impact on Customer Relationships
SummaryIn this conversation, Jim Sterne discusses the evolving landscape of digital analytics and the impact of AI on customer relationships and the role of analysts. He emphasizes the importance of understanding context in AI interactions, the shift of analysts from report generators to certifiers of systems, and the need for new skills in a rapidly changing environment. The discussion also touches on the challenges of maintaining entry-level positions in the face of advancing technology and the necessity for analysts to become trusted advisors within their organizations.Get your Space Academy tickets: https://experimentationelite.com/00:00 Introduction to AI and Customer Relationships08:29 The Role of Analysts in the Age of AI13:11 Navigating the Future of Entry-Level Positions17:59 The Transition of Skills in a Rapidly Changing LandscapeLinks mentioned in the episode:* Jim Sterne: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimsterne/* targeting.com: https://www.targeting.com/* Coastal Intelligence: https://www.coastalintelligence.ai/* The New Science of Customer Relationships: https://www.amazon.com/Science-Customer-Relationships-One-One/dp/1394319541* Newsletter "Full Sterne Ahead": https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/full-sterne-ahead/
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n8n and small AI models
CRO.CAFE Podcast revival? 🤯 In a mini-series preparing for the Experimentation Elite Space Academy event (May 6/7 in London, see https://experimentationelite.com/). I'm interviewing some of the speakers at the event, starting with Iqbal Ali.Besides creating cartoons (https://iqbalacomics.com/tech-bro-tales/), Iqbal is consulting on and building with AI a lot, specifically with the AI text analysis tool Ressada (https://ressada.com/) and on May 6th he will run the workshop on using n8n and user small LLMs to make it fly.He also pointed me to DSPy (https://dspy.ai/) and MCPo (https://github.com/open-webui/mcpo) two very usefull tools to increase the reliability of your AI workflows. Worth exploring if you're tired of prompt engineering 😅 Iqbal will run the Space Academy workshop together with Slobodan Manić and they will cover: - Integrating AI into existing workflows without overcomplicating things - Building efficient pipelines that minimize errors - Practical experimentation with different models If you're a CRO specialist, frontend developer or data professional looking to actually ship AI workflows, join the event! Registration is still available at https://experimentationelite.com/Shownotes:* Karen Hau empire of AI - https://karendhao.com/* DSPy framework - https://dspy.ai/* MCPo - https://github.com/open-webui/mcpo* Tech Bro Tales - (https://iqbalacomics.com/tech-bro-tales/)* Ressada: Unlock hidden insights from user feedback - https://ressada.com/* Iqbal Ali: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iqbalhussainali/
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Growth Minded Superheroes
Next week, the Growth Marketing Summit event will take place in Frankfurt Germany, CRO.CAFE will be there with our own booth to record experts from the stage and audience. In this episode you'll get a short preview with the organisers of the event: André Morys and Julia Rumpf! Guest 1: Andre Morys URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/andre-morys | Guest 2: Julia Rumpf URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/julia-rumpf (00:00) - Welcome Back to CRO.CAFE (00:20) - Upcoming Growth Marketing Summit (01:01) - Origins of the Conversion Summit (03:30) - Evolution of the Event's Name (11:21) - Importance of In-Person Networking (14:32) - Preparing for the Event (18:15) - Final Thoughts and Farewell
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How do you maintain a no-BS style
For this episode we have Shiva Manjunath from Speero dropping some (painful?) CRO truthbombs for the new year... Guest: Shiva Manjunath URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/shiva-manjunath
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Educating your CRO clients & hiring for your CRO agency
Together with Matt we go through a variety of CRO agency topics, like how to educate your clients and how to hire for your team. Guest: Matt Scaysbrook URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/matt-scaysbrook
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How to craft copy on the PDP to convert more first-time buyers
Guest: Rishi Rawat URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/rishi-rawat
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Understand your products first before optimizing
Guest: Juliana Jackson URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/juliana-jackson
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What separates the good from the great?
Guest 1: Colin Crowell URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/colin-crowell | Guest 2: Manuel Da Costa URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/manuel-da-costa
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Friction and Momentum in Brazil vs EU vs USA
Guest: André Vieira URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/andre-vieira
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Understanding the "Why"
Guest: Eliza Mukherjee URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/eliza-mukherjee
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How you can practically optimize your forms
Guest 1: Craig Sullivan URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/craig-sullivan | Guest 2: Alun Lucas URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/alun-lucas
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Optimizing for Customer Lifetime Value
Guest 1: Tim Stewart URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/tim-stewart | Guest 2: Karl Gilis URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/karl-gilis
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CRO Automation & building your (de)centralized CRO team
Guest 1: Arnout van Scherpenzeel URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/arnout-van-scherpenzeel | Guest 2: Annemarie Klaassen URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/annemarie-klaassen
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User research: Qual versus Quant
Guest 1: Els Aerts URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/els-aerts | Guest 2: Rianne van de Rijt URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/rianne-van-de-rijt
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Chatbots & retention campaigns
Guest 1: Maaike Wittebrood URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/maaike-wittebrood | Guest 2: Robin Leenders URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/robin-leenders
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CRO and SEO are dead
Guest 1: Simon Vreeman URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/simon-vreeman | Guest 2: Gerk Mulder URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/gerk-mulder
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Localizing translations for international audiences
Guest: Oscar Nogueras URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/oscar-nogueras
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Selling your CRO agency
Guest: Ricardo Tayar López URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/ricardo-tayar-lopez
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Visitor and customer survey insights for high-impact CRO
Guest: Rich Page URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/rich-page
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Experimentation values & culture at scale: Linkedin
Guest: alexander-ivaniuk URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/alexander-ivaniuk
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Supercharging the customer journey with analytics data
Guest: Steen Rasmussen URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/steen-rasmussen
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Turn ice-cold traffic into thrilled-to-be-paying customers with high-converting copy
Guest: Eden Bidani URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/eden-bidani
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Where to start when the company needs CRO, but doesn't know they do.
Guest: Andrea Romano Velandia URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/andrea-romano-velandia
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Optimizing Conversion Rates by Working on Just One Page. Genius or Madness?
Guest: Rishi Rawat URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/rishi-rawat
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Using text messages to improve conversions and retention
Guest: Jeremy Horowitz URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/jeremy-horowitz
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Bayesian expected loss: Telling a complete story with data
Guest: Iqbal Ali URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/iqbal-ali
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Experience as UX designer in a very data driven company (Booking.com)
Guest: Alex Muñoz URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/alex-munoz
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CRO Flywheel: How Microsoft Kickstarted the A/B testing Momentum and keeps it going
Guest: Aleksander Fabijan URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/aleksander-fabijan
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Top 10 reasons your A/B tests fail the Quality Assurance phase
Abi Hough is an experienced QA specialist for online experiments and she'll show us the Top 10 reasons A/B tests fail... even before they go live. Guest: Abi Hough URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/abi-hough
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Remote growth hacking from Nigeria
Guest: Tawab Jabar URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/tawab-jabar
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Browsers, cookies & server-side testing with SiteSpect
Guest: Erwin Kerk URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/erwin-kerk
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Optimizing the user experience for an art shop/marketplace
Guest: Abbey Schoenberg URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/abbey-schoenberg
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600+ psychological principles for driving behavior? Not even close...
Guest: Brian Cugelman URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/brian-cugelman
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Why humanizing data is so important, with Eltine van der Veer
Guest: Eltine van der Veer - URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/eltine-van-der-veer
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B2B experiments on low traffic & building your own platform, with Chad Sanderson from Convoy
Guest: Chad Sanderson URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/chad-sanderson
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Unleash Your Primal Brain, with Tim Ash
Guest: Tim Ash URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/tim-ash
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Confession time: Sequential testing and why machines won't replace us any time soon, with Merritt Aho
Guest: Merritt Aho URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/merritt-aho
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The 2020 State of Conversion Optimization Report, with Derek Gleason from CXL
Guest: Derek Gleason URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/derek-gleason
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CRO Salaries: Agency vs Client-side vs Freelance
Exploring the earning potential for different kinds of CRO work. From agency CRO specialists to those that work clients-side to freelance CROs. I quite enjoyed answering this question because I've been in all three positions: I've worked at agencies, then moved to client side and then finally took the plunge into freelancing. I've come to find out that there are trade-offs for each. Your personality-type will be largely responsible for determining which scenario is best for you. For example: If you're the kind of person that wants something safe while working on a side-hustle then maybe working at an agency or company is best. Don't overthink it, try each scenario if you get the chance, as that's the best way of determining what's best for you. Once you do find what's best for you, it's smooth(er?) sailing from there. The 2019 State of Conversion Optimization Report by CXL: https://conversionxl.typeform.com/to/CIeV4Uuw Want to receive the 2020 survey results? Our podcast partner Convert.com and CXL teamed up to get the CRO industry report of 2020 updated again. How are we as a CRO industry are moving forward and in what aspects. Join this annual survey so we can all shortly enjoy the results: https://cxl.com/blog/2019-conversion-optimization-report/
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Experimentation at ecommerce SaaS company Shopify, with Casandra Campbell
Guest: Casandra Campbell URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/casandra-campbell
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How to run copy experiments & why you should differentiate, with Peep Laja
Guest: Peep Laja URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/peep-laja
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How to embed experimentation into Agile product development, with Jonny Longden
Jonny Longden URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/jonny-longden
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Are you a movie critic? You might be great at CRO! With Sumantha Shankaranarayana
Guest: Sumantha Shankaranarayana URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/sumantha-shankaranarayana
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Book launch: Online Influence, with Bas Wouters
Guest: Bas Wouters URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/bas-wouters
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Optimizing Consumer-to-consumer marketplaces, with Emily Oliver from musicMagpie/Decluttr
Guest: Emily Oliver URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/emily-oliver
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Switching gears when the pandemic upends your traffic, with Dave Powell (TomTom)
Guest: Dave Powell URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/dave-powell
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Main pitfalls for CRO Agencies when working with clients, with Ricardo Tayar López (Flat101)
Guest: Ricardo Tayar López URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/ricardo-tayar-lopez
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How to become a better CRO professional, with Abi Hough & Craig Sullivan
Guest 1: Abi Hough URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/abi-hough | Guest 2: Craig Sullivan URL: https://www.cro.cafe/guest/craig-sullivan
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Tune in as cognitive psychologist and award-winning CRO specialist Guido X Jansen grills his expert guests on experimentation, user research, digital marketing and everything in between.Funny. Real. Raw. And never boring. Every episode of the CRO.CAFE is filled with knowledge bombs that will inspire and motivate you, as well as give you practical tools to help you up your CRO game.Join 14K+ subscribers for the world's most exciting, raw discussions on experimentation, CRO, user research and digital marketing from the industry leaders who live and breathe it.Start listening right now with 100+ episodes on tap!
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