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Curtin’s Cast

Welcome to Curtin’s Cast, the John Curtin Research Centre’s podcast of politics, ideas and culture brought to you by JCRC Executive Director Nick Dyrenfurth and Redbridge’s Kos Samaras. Each fortnight we will bring you the freshest and most challenging conversations from the world of Australian and global politics, culture, and ideas every week with leading political leaders, activists, and thinkers.

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    Curtin’s Cast Episode 55 - 6 May 2026 - Has One Nation Hit Its Ceiling?

    One year on from the 2025 federal election, the political landscape is shifting again — and not in ways either major legacy party can fully control. In this episode, Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth unpack the latest RedBridge/Accent/AFR  polling and the fallout from the Nepean by-election. Has One Nation’s surge peaked? And is there a “Trump dump” effect — where getting too close to Trump and MAGA begins to turn voters off? Nick and Kos also explore Pauline Hanson’s emerging dilemma: a choice between battlers and billionaires, as her party draws support from working Australians while benefiting from the backing of right-wing figures like Gina Rinehart. We also preview the looming Farrer by-election and examine what Nepean signals for both Labor and the Liberals — and the Victorian election ahead.

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    Curtin’s Cast Episode 54 - 29 April 2026 - AI, Jobs & the Coming Political Reckoning

    In this episode, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras break down why AI anxiety is already political — not hypothetical — and why governments are at risk of repeating the biggest mistake of the last economic transition. We’ve seen this movie before. It didn’t end well. Over 70% of Australians think AI will cost jobs — and this time, the fear hits before the impact. Based off new Redbridge polling and the John Curtin Research Centre's new policy report, 'For All of Us: Making Artificial Intelligence Work for Working People', the argument is simple: if workers don’t share in the gains, they won’t accept the change. And if they don’t accept it, they’ll vote against it.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 53 - 22 April 2026 - Europe’s Political Upheaval

    On this episode, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras are joined by leading scholars of nationalism and European politics expert Associate Professor Ben Wellings (Monash University) to unpack the forces reshaping the UK and Europe. From the collapse of the political centre to the rise of populists and Greens alike, this is a continent in flux. We cover: ▪️ The UK’s shift to five-party fragmentation with Greens and Reform surging ▪️ Trump Bump 2.0 reshaping European politics in real time ▪️ Hungary after Orbán — liberal reset or just a populist pause? ▪️ Scottish and Welsh elections and Keir Starmer’s future Essential listening for anyone trying to understand where Western politics is heading — and why the old rules no longer apply.

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    Curtin’s Cast Episode 52 – 15 April 2026 – How Left and Right Populism Are Reshaping Australia

    Australia isn’t experiencing one populist surge, but two. In this episode of Curtin’s Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras unpack new RedBridge and Accent Research polling revealing a striking political reality: under the same economic pressures, different generations are breaking in completely different directions. Among financially stressed Gen X voters, One Nation is surging. Among Gen Z voters under that same pressure, the Greens are rising just as sharply. Same system. Same frustration. Completely different political outcomes. This isn’t just volatility — it’s something deeper. The unravelling of the class-based political system that has defined Australia for more than a century. But here’s the paradox: as the system fragments, Labor remains dominant. Why? Drawing on Nick’s ‘Trump Bump 2.0’ thesis, the episode explores how voters are shifting from blaming governments to asking a different question — who looks like the “adult in the room” in an age of global instability. Nick and Kos break down: Why Australia now has two competing populisms The generational divide reshaping politics Why One Nation is insurgent but not a governing force The Coalition’s accelerating collapse How Labor is holding on amid fragmentation Is class politics is being replaced by generation and education This is a conversation about a political system coming apart — and what might replace it.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 51 - 8 April 2026 - Misha Zelinsky on World War 3

    Has World War 3 already begun — just without a declaration? This week on Curtin’s Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras are joined by the excellent Misha Zelinsky — Fulbright Scholar, economist, lawyer, and national security expert — to unpack a confronting idea: We may already be living through the early stages of the third great global conflict of modern times. From Russia’s illegal war in Ukraine to chaos in the Middle East and rising tensions in the Indo-Pacific, Misha argues we are witnessing an unevenly distributed, undeclared world war — driven by a loose but dangerous alignment of authoritarian powers. On episode 51 we cover: Why historical analogies (1930s, WWI, Cold War) only go so far Why defence experts now see a 20–30% chance of global conflict this decade The rise of a “bad guys club”: Russia, China, Iran, North Korea How Western democratic deterrence failed — slowly, then all at once How modern warfare contains multiple overlapping theatres — military, economic, cyber — along with the familiar use of proxies Whether democracies are strong enough — including internally — to prevail This is a serious, sobering conversation about power, geopolitics, and whether the world has already crossed a threshold we don’t yet recognise.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 50 - 1 April 2026 - Prof Frank Bongiorno on Bob Hawke

    This week, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras are joined by arguably Australia’s finest historian and public intellectual, Professor Frank Bongiorno, for our landmark 50th episode — and a big question at the heart of Australian politics: Is Bob Hawke really the “gold standard”… or a myth we can’t escape? Our conversation is anchored in the new book Gold Standard? Remembering the Hawke Government, edited by Frank, Carolyn Holbrook and Joshua Black — a major reassessment of Hawke’s record and reputation. We unpack: ▪️ Why Hawke still dominates how we judge governments ▪️ What actually made the Hawke model work ▪️ Why reform feels harder today ▪️ Whether Labor is misreading its own history What matters now is what Albanese Labor can realistically learn from Hawke — and what his record tells students of Australian politics about the limits and possibilities of reform today.

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    Curtin’s Cast Episode 49 - 25 March 2026 - South Australian Election Review

    A seismic election result in South Australia — but was it a Labor landslide, or a structural collapse of the Liberals? Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras unpack: The Liberals finishing third and fourth across large parts of the state One Nation’s 22% surge and what it really means The critical importance of SA Premier Peter Malinauskas Why this could be a warning shot for Victoria 2026 This is a deep dive into fragmentation, realignment, and the future of the two party system. Check out episode 49 wherever you get your podcasts.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 48 - 18 March 2026 - Is the two-party system dead?

    This week on Curtin’s Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras break down the most striking polling shift in a generation — and what it means for Australian politics.   Victoria is no longer a conventional contest. Both major parties are struggling to reach 30%. One Nation is now polling in the mid-20s. The next Victorian election won’t be one election at all. It’ll be eighty-eight by-elections happening simultaneously across the state.   In this episode we explore:   📊 RedBridge/Accent Victorian state election polling 👥 Generational and class realignment playing out in real time 🗳️ Check in on South Australia ahead of March 21 🌍 Whether Middle East conflict influences domestic voting behaviour   This is a deep dive into the end of the old electoral map — and what replaces it.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 47 - 11 March 2026 - Dr Kylie Gilbert-Moore

    This week co-hosts Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras are joined by Dr Kylie Gilbert-Moore — Middle East scholar, columnist and former political prisoner in Iran. After spending 804 days jailed in Tehran’s Evin Prison, Kylie offers a rare perspective on how the Iranian regime works and how ordinary Iranians see the world. In this episode we unpack: • Iran’s widening war in the Middle East • The death of Ali Khamenei and rise of his son • Whether authoritarian regimes are stronger or more fragile during war • What Iranians actually think about the conflict • How the region might change if Iran’s regime falls 🎧 Listen now via Apple, Spotify or YouTube

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 46 - 4 March 2026 - Peter Khalil MP

    This week Curtin's Cast is joined in the studio by Peter Khalil — Labor member for the federal seat of Wills in Melbourne, Assistant Minister for Defence, former Chair of the Intelligence and Security Committee, ex-national security adviser to Kevin Rudd, and previously the government’s former Special Envoy for Social Cohesion. From public housing in Melbourne’s north to junior tennis glory, from working as an executive with SBS to the frontline of Australia’s national security debate — Peter’s story is as global as it is grounded. And Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras go deep with Peter, exploring: 🎾 Growing up in Melbourne’s north to immigrant parents — and what a good working-class boy was doing playing tennis ✝️ Who are the Egyptian Copts? Peter gives us a history lesson — one of the world’s oldest Christian communities, tracing their lineage back to the early Church, shaped by centuries of survival, faith and minority resilience in the Middle East 🧭 Why Peter chose the brutal occupation of parliamentary politics over a a successful and comfortable executive career 🏘️ On the ground in Wills — what voters are actually saying at the doors 🤝 Social cohesion beyond the slogan — what happens when trust frays? ⚠️ Extremism — left and right — protest, grievance, and social media accelerant 🌏 Geo-political volatility — what does middle-power strategy look like now? All killer, no filler. Catch Episode 46 wherever you get your podcasts.

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    Curtin's Cast Ep 45 - 25 February 2026 - Polls, Pretenders & the Problem with the Liberal Party

    This week it’s a one-on-one Kos vs Nick deep dive. No guests. No niceties. Just a hard look at the polling — and some of the rubbish floating around. We unpack: 📊 The latest federal and state polls — what’s real and what’s noise 🔵 The new Liberal leadership — and why it’s not generational renewal 🗳️ The same free-market fundamentalism dressed up with culture-war garnish 📰 The same campaign/media tactics including obligatory News Corp sit-down 🏙️ A leader who doesn’t hold an urban metropolitan seat 💥 And the deeper truth: the problem isn’t just the leader — it’s the party We also dig into: 📍 Victorian and South Australian polling 🎤 The Mally campaign launch: One Nation is the real threat ⚠️ How One Nation can eat into Labor’s base especially in Victoria Then: 🏗️ Why issues like the CFMEU saga are viewed by voters as intra-elite squabbles 🧍‍♂️🧍‍♀️ The widening gender divide and growing generational fracture — Gen X, Millennials, Gen Z — and how each tells a different political story If you want to know where Australian politics is actually heading — beyond the hot takes — this is the episode for you!

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 44 - 19 February 2026 - Alastair Campbell on Trumpism and why Australia gives him hope

    🎙️ New Curtin’s Cast: Alastair Campbell on democracy in the age of Trumpism Politics everywhere feels simultaneously stuck and combustible — in the US, the UK and here in Australia. This week Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras are joined by Alastair Campbell — former Director of Communications and Strategy to Tony Blair, co-host of The Rest Is Politics, and one of the sharpest observers of modern democratic politics — for a wide-ranging and unsparing conversation. We explore: Why UK Labour PM Keir Starmer governs with a commanding majority yet struggles to project purpose How Anthony Albanese’s Australian Labor and Canada’s Mark Carney are resisting the right-wing populist surge The global ecosystem of right-wing media, influencers and big money amplifying grievance and normalising transgressive politics of the MAGA, Reform UK and Aussie One Nation variety Why figures like Donald Trump, Nigel Farage and Pauline Hanson can get away with behaviour mainstream politicians cannot What New Labour got wrong - namely the downsides of globalization  Housing, intergenerational equality and climate are the means by which the social democratic centre-left can beat back the populist Alt-Right Alastair also speaks candidly about his own reaction to Trump — even joking about how he has “Trump Derangement Syndrome” — and what that reveals about the emotional intensity of contemporary politics 🎧 Listen to episode 44 wherever you get your podcasts. 

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 43 - 9 February 2026 - Coalition implosion, One Nation surging and risks for Labor

    🎙 Curtin’s Cast returns for 2026 Episode 43 | Polling shocks, Coalition fracture and the new politics of grievance Australian politics is realigning in real time. In the first Curtin’s Cast episode of 2026, co-hosts Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras unpack a turbulent political summer — from polling shocks and Coalition breakdown to the surge of One Nation, the Gen X revolt, and the risks now facing a dominant but vulnerable Labor government. We discuss: • What the polling is really telling us • Why the Coalition’s break-up (and make-up) doesn’t fix the right • One Nation’s consolidation and electoral prospects • Gen X as the new grievance cohort • How legacy media built a populist right-wing Frankenstein it can’t control • Why the Greens are stuck in neutral • Why Labor’s next term must be about delivery, not luck • What the 2026 SA and Victorian elections will reveal about federal politics 🎧 Listen now on Apple, Spotify and YouTube

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    Curtin’s Cast EOY Special - Nine Media’s Sean Kelly on Quarterly Essay #100: The Good Fight

    As we wrap up Curtin’s Cast for 2025, a big thank you to everyone who’s tuned in this year — and a Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah, and season’s greetings to all our listeners. Your support has helped make Curtin’s Cast one of the most widely listened-to political podcasts in the country, and we’re deeply grateful. To close out the year, we couldn’t ask for a better conversation. Quarterly Essay has reached its 100th edition — a remarkable milestone for long-form political writing in Australia. And to mark it, Kos and Nick sit down with Sean Kelly, author of The Good Fight: What Does Labor Stand For? — an essay that asks an important, and uncomfortable, question in Australian politics. Sean argues Labor’s challenge today isn’t simply electoral, but moral: a crisis of purpose, confidence and imagination. Why has the party that once reshaped the nation struggled to articulate what it stands for heading into 2026? What replaced the old sense of mission? And can a politics built on “kindness” survive a harsher, more unequal era? 📘 Buy Sean Kelly’s Quarterly Essay #100 here: 👉 https://www.quarterlyessay.com.au/essay/2025/11/the-good-fight Thanks again for listening in 2025. We’ll see you in 2026 — with plenty more to talk about.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 41 - 10 December 2025 - Kos and Nick on One Nation surge, Barnaby and much more

    On this week’s Curtin’s Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras go one-on-one on what the latest Redbridge and Resolve polling is really telling us about Australian politics heading into a huge 2026 calendar. With two state elections looming in South Australia and Victoria, and federal pressures building, we unpack what to expect at state level, how federal factors are cutting through, and why One Nation’s surge is no longer a side story. The conversation then turns to the deeper question behind the numbers: who is actually experiencing material decline in living standards, and how that economic anxiety is reshaping voting behaviour across One Nation, Labor, Liberals and the Greens. With inflation risks still live and global instability rising, we also ask what kind of nation-building agenda Labor will need to put on the table in 2026 to hold the political centre.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 40 - 3 December 2025 - Alex Vynokur (United Ukraine Appeal) and Dom Meagher (JCRC)

    🎧 NEW EPISODE | CURTIN’S CAST 🇺🇦🇦🇺 Recorded live from Parliament House, Canberra Winning the Peace: Why Ukraine’s Reconstruction Is Australia’s Test Too This episode features one of the most powerful voices in Australia’s Ukraine community. Alex Vynokur didn’t become an advocate by choice — history chose him. A Ukrainian Jew whose family endured antisemitism and world war, Alex's family have built an incredibly successful life in Australia. When Russia invaded, he didn’t look away. He built the United Ukraine Appeal into a lifeline for hospitals, families and frontline communities under fire. Now he joins Curtin’s Cast — just minutes after the launch of our new report in Parliament along with report author Dr Dominic Meagher and hosts Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth  — to argue that rebuilding Ukraine is not charity, it is solidarity and strategy to serve Australia's national interest.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 39 - 26 November 2025 - Paul Sakkal (Nine Media Chief Political Correspondent)

    Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras sit down with Nine Media’s Chief Political Correspondent, Paul Sakkal, for one of the sharpest political conversations we’ve had all year. We cover everything reshaping Australian politics right now: • The latest polling — and what it really means • Liberal Party chaos & whether Sussan Ley can hang on? • The rise and rise of One Nation: who’s voting for them? Why? • Whether Pauline Hanson has finally hit her ceiling • Andrew Hastie — principled conservative or emerging Messiah figure? • Why the Liberals’ national future runs through fixing Victoria first • And what to expect from new Victorian Opposition Leader Jess Wilson It’s a wide-ranging, data-rich, brutally honest breakdown direct from the corridors of power.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 38 - 19 November 2025 - Nick and Emma Dawson on the Revolt Against Politics As Usual

    With Kung Fu Kos away, Nick Dyrenfurth teams up with guest co-host Emma Dawson (Chifley Research Centre) to tackle a huge few weeks in politics: 📊 What the latest federal polling really says 🌆 Mamdani’s NYC upset + outsider politics 🇬🇧 UK Labour turmoil, Reform & Greens surge 📱 Australia’s under-16 social media ban Is a new generation rejecting “politics-as-usual”? And what should Australian Labor, indeed political parties of all stripes, learn before it’s too late? Listen on Apple, Spotify and YouTube.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 37 - 11 November 2025 - Troy Bramston on Gough Whitlam

      Fifty years to the day after the Dismissal, this week on Curtin’s Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and guest co-host Emma Dawson talk to acclaimed historian and political biographer Troy Bramston about his stunning new biography Gough Whitlam: The Vista of the New. 700+ pages of reform, chaos, and vision — from Gough’s youthful poem to the tumultuous events of 11 November 1975. What does Whitlam still mean to Labor today? Listen now on Apple, Spotify and YouTube. Buy Troy's book: https://www.harpercollins.com.au/9781460716137/gough-whitlam-the-vista-of-the-new-the-definitive-and-most-up-to-date-biography-from-australias-leading-political-biographer/

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 36 - 5 November 2025 - SDA Union National Secretary Gerard Dwyer

      🎙️This week on Curtin's Cast, Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth sit down with Gerard Dwyer, National Secretary of the SDA — Australia’s largest private-sector union covering retail, fast food and warehouse workers and a proud John Curtin Research Centre Board member. From regional NSW, to the classroom and social work, and now the frontline of the labour movement, Gerard shares his journey, values, and vision — from the dignity of retail work and the scourge of workplace violence to the fight for fair pay for young workers, and why housing must be at the heart of Labor’s renewal. There’s even a yarn about his short-lived career as a jockey 🏇 This is a conversation about work, safety, and fairness but also about the enduring moral purpose of the labour movement in an era of economic insecurity and populist politics. 🎧 Listen now wherever you get your podcasts.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 35 - 29 October 2025 - Kos and Nick on the Netflixisation of Politics

    🎙️ This week's Curtin's Cast delves into what one British political writer calls the Netflixisation of Politics. Nick Dyrenfurth & Kos Samaras dive into the end of the political pendulum: both major parties bleeding to their disruptor flanks, the rise of niche tribes, and how politics has become algorithmic entertainment — the voter as subscriber, not loyalist, from Reform UK and the Greens’ surge in Britain with Keir Starmer's Labour government assailed from right and left to similair Aussie trends. We also ask why do right-wing fear campaigns on crime and law and order still work outside the cities but flop inside them? And what does the recent and successful Albo–Trump meeting — and the Coalition’s hysteria over it — tell us about Australia’s underlying political psychology?

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 34 - 22 October 2025 - From Basra to 🇦🇺 Aussie Boardrooms: JCRC Chair Sam Almaliki

    🎙️ Our guest today has lived the Australian story from the inside out. Born in Basra, Iraq, arriving to Australia as an asylum seeker aged nine including spending time in Villawood Detention Centre, and now a lawyer, chairperson and entrepreneur — Sam Almaliki’s journey is one of hope, hardship and renewal. From learning English behind fences to leading in business and community, Sam’s story captures the resilience and reinvention that define the Australian project. In this episode Nick and Kos yarn with Sam about: 🏠 Growing up in public housing & the power of aspiration 🏏 From Cricket Australia to navigating boardrooms 🤝 Migration, belonging & social cohesion   🎧 Listen to Curtin’s Cast with Sam Almaliki wherever you get your podcast goodies!

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 33 - 15 October 2025 - Historic major party vote lows, One Nation support rising and Greens' Gaza gaffes

    🎙️ New Curtin’s Cast episode! Kos and Nick dive into explosive new polling showing the combined major party primary vote at historic lows. The Liberals are haemorrhaging votes on their right flank while collapsing among Gen Z, millennials, women and CALD voters. They unpack the immigration debate, the rise of Advance Australia and right-wing online grifters, and ask: who exactly is voting for One Nation in 2025? (Spoiler: not the people who matter in marginal swing seats). Plus: how the Greens’ extremist rhetoric around the Middle East is backfiring with mainstream progressives. 🎧 Listen now on Spotify, Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 32 - 1 October 2025 - Kos and Nick on MAGA politics, Andrew Hastie and much more

    🎧 New #CurtinsCast episode - Kos Samaras is back with Brisbane Lions tragic & premiership celebrator Nick Dyrenfurth to dissect the week in politics: 🇬🇧 The rise of alt-right & MAGA politics in the UK and Australia 🛠️ Andrew Hastie on migration, housing & slaying the neo-liberal dragon ⚠️ Wayne Swan’s warning to Labor on its shallow base in a time of electoral volatility…  and much more besides.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 31 - 24 September 2025 - Dr Shireen Morris (JCRC Board Member, Constitutional Lawyer and Author)

    🎧 New Curtin’s Cast Episode With Nick Dyrenfurth still away, JCRC board member & leading constitutional lawyer Dr Shireen Morris joins Kos Samaras for a rich, personal and political conversation. 🌏⚖️ 💡 From her Indian-Fijian family roots and early acting dreams to the frontlines of law and advocacy, Shireen shares the journey that shaped her fight for justice and belonging. 🗳️ They dive deep into the Uluru Statement and the Voice referendum: • Lessons from working with First Nations leaders • Why constitutional design matters more than slogans • A frank autopsy of the 2023 Yes campaign—what worked, what didn’t • Where recognition, treaty & reform go next A candid, insightful episode on law, culture and the future of Australia’s democracy.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 30 - 17 September 2025 - Dr Stephen Parnis

    #CurtinsCast host Nick Dyrenfurth takes a well-earned spell from the microphone as John Curtin Research Centre board member and constitutional lawyer Dr Shireen Morris joins Kos Samaras to lead a searching conversation with "proud Westie" and emergency physician Dr Stephen Parnis. From the frontlines of emergency medicine to the fraught politics of end-of-life care, Dr Parnis reflects on the class politics of medical care, dealing with dying patents and what makes for a “good death,” the limits of autonomy, and why Victoria’s voluntary assisted-dying safeguards still trouble him. The discussion widens to COVID’s class divides and the paradox of highly-educated, generally affluent anti-vax movement. It’s a candid, compassionate exploration of clinical ethics, public policy, and how we might rewrite the script on death and care in Australia.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 29 - 10 September 2025 - ACTU Secretary Sally McManus

    This week’s Curtin's Cast features the excellent ACTU Secretary, Sally McManus. Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth explore her working-class upbringing in north-west Sydney, the parallels between the rise of One Nation in the 1990s and today’s hard-right, neo-Nazi currents, and whether her attraction to the labour movement was a matter of nature or nurture. We cover the cultural left milieu she emerged from, the eye-opening experience of being the first in her family to attend university, the ACTU’s pioneering Organising Works program, the influence of mentors like Tom Macdonald and Tas Bull, and her path to the top job leading a resurgent union movement through seismic challenges from Covid to AI and intergenerational inequality. And yes — we also dive into Sally’s lifelong obsession with martial arts and how it’s shaped her leadership. A rich and revealing conversation you won’t want to miss.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 28 - 3 September 2025 - Prof Sean Scalmer (Author of A Fair Day’s Work: The Quest to Win Back Time)

    This week we’re joined by Professor Sean Scalmer — one of Australia's leading historians based at the University of Melbourne, Fellow of the Academy of Social Science, and author of A Fair Day’s Work: The Quest to Win Back Time. We dive into: ⏳ The fight for the eight-hour day and Australia’s pioneering role 📉 How progress stalled from the 1980s onwards 👩‍👩‍👧‍👦 The hidden burden of unpaid work, especially for women 💻 Technology, productivity and the “always on” culture 🗳️ Why politics has failed to act on overwork ✨ What a fairer future — maybe even a four-day week — could look like A revealing look at the crisis of work-life balance — and how we might win back our time. Grab a copy of Sean's book here: https://www.mup.com.au/books/a-fair-day-s-work/9780522880816

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 27 - 27 August 2025 - Former Liberal MP Keith Wolahan

    This week’s Curtin’s Cast features the thoughtful and formidable former Liberal MP Keith Wolahan. Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth discussed Keith’s Irish Catholic working-class roots in Dublin, his childhood in suburban Melbourne and education at Ringwood Secondary College, through to his academic achievements at Melbourne, Monash and Cambridge and career as a barrister. Our conversation delved into his two decades of military service including the elite 1st Commando Regiment, deployments to East Timor and Afghanistan, and the loss of close friends in combat that shaped his reflections on leadership, sacrifice and ethics. We unpacked his pivotal preselection contest against Kevin Andrews in the seat of Menzies and his brief time in federal parliament, with Keith providing some raw and super interesting insights into modern political life. We also explored the lessons of defeat after Menzies turned red in 2025, his honesty in taking responsibility, and his vision for a Liberal Party that must reconnect with urban voters – especially professionals, women, younger Australians and migrant communities. Keith spoke candidly about his family life, his values, and whether a political comeback might lie ahead alongside his work at the Bar. This is a conversation not to be missed. Check out a preview which is running in Nine Media's The Age and SMH: https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/canavan-leads-group-of-five-demanding-coalition-debate-now-on-scrapping-net-zero-20250826-p5mpvo.html

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 26 - 20 August 2025 - South Australian Labor Premier Peter Malinauskas

    In a competitive field we think this week's Curtin's Cast might be the best yet featuring the super impressive South Australian Premier Peter Malinauskas. Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth discussed Peter's upbringing in Adelaide, his career as a unionist rising from the Woolies shopfloor to become state secretary of the Shop, Distributive and Allied Employees' Association representing retail, fast-food and warehousing workers, and journey from becoming SA Labor Opposition leader to Premier during the Covid years. Our conversation spanned artificial intelligence and productivity, housing, social media policy, the end of woke and anti-woke politics, Labor connecting better with disillusioned young men and Australians of faith, and the deteriorating geopolitical environment.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 25 - 13 August 2025 - Dom Meagher (JCRC Deputy Director & Chief Economist)

    We are very fortunate to have the one of the brightest and most innovative economists in Australia as part of our team - Dr Dominic Meagher. He's our latest guest on Curtin's Cast with Kos Samaras discussing the finer details of our recently released paper co-authored with Nick Dyrenfurth - 'Innovation Nation: Powering Australian Productivity in the 2020s and Beyond'. On this episode we get to the core of what productivity actually is and why Australian growth is now at its lowest in 60 years, mostly as the result of the old playbook of cutting costs, deregulation, and squeezing workers being no longer fit for purpose, and deep dive into the JCRC's bold, practical and distinctively social democratic blueprint for a more dynamic, resilient, and fair economy with productivity the means by which we can realise rising real wages and better living standards.  Read the entire report here: https://lnkd.in/ga2xad8J

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 24 - 6 August 2025 - Liberals' Existential Crisis (Kung Fu Kos Is Back!)

    The great 'Kung Fu' Kos Samaras is back with Curtin's Cast co-host Nick Dyrenfurth discussing the post-election environment and the crisis of the Liberal-National Party.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 23 - 30 July 2025 - Gautam Raju (Movember)

    This week's Curtin's Cast is a ripper featuring Gautam Raju, Global Director, Policy & Advocacy – Programs with Movember. Gautam, as listeners will discover is a ripper bloke talking about an issue Australian society is slowly but surely confronting - bloke's health, whether mental or physical well-being. Nick Dyrenfurth and Redbridge's Simon Welsh covered a smorgasbord of topics from Gautam's work co-leading the United Nations Secretary General campaign response to combat misinformation on COVID-19 which has reached over 1 billion people to big topics from the state of play in 2025, the usefulness of terms such as toxic masculinity, sport and male role models, the online world and social media influencers including right-wing populist types, and what political progressives and those on the left of politics need to do better in these spaces. A big thanks to Simon for filling in for Kos Samaras these past few weeks. Enjoy episode 23!

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 22 - 23 July 2025 - Ronnie Hayden (Australian Workers Union Victorian Branch Secretary)

    This week's Curtin's Cast is a powerful, at times moving episode featuring Ronnie Hayden, Australian Workers Union Victorian Branch Secretary. Hosts Nick Dyrenfurth and Redbridge's Simon Welsh chatted to Ronnie about his upbringing in Ireland, diverse working life as a cafe owner and construction worker, life as a Dad to five children and fostering 55 (!) kids, personal challenges he has overcome on the way to leading the Victorian AWU and the issues facing working people which fire him up.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 21 - 16 July 2025 - Liam Byrne (Author of No Power Greater: A History of Union Action in Australia)

    History nerds and labour movement aficionados we have a cracker of a Curtin's Cast for you this week! Nick Dyrenfurth was joined by Redbridge's Simon Welsh to yarn with historian and author Dr Liam Byrne, discussing his new book, No Power Greater: A History of Union Action in Australia. Liam is a distinguished biographer of the great John Curtin and another Labor prime minister Jim Scullin - his first book was Becoming John Curtin and James Scullin: the Making of the Modern Labor Party (Melbourne University Press, 2020) so we naturally traversed his earlier studies of these Labor icons, Liam's own Irish-Scottish family background and attraction to labour history and union activism, why people came together to form unions and purpose of unionism itself, the progression of unionism in Australia over nearly two centuries, the big and lesser known heroes of his story, and just how crucial unions have been in shaping modern Australian society - especially the struggles of women workers, culturally and linguistically diverse and First Nations' workers, and more recently LGBTIQA+ toilers, as well as how unions are enjoying something of a resurgence especially amongst younger people. No Power Greater is fascinating and compelling history - enjoy the pod and make sure to buy Liam's book. Read an extract and secure a copy here: https://byrnel.substack.com/p/no-power-greater?

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 20 - 9 July 2025 - Prime Minister Anthony Albanese

    This week's Curtin's Cast is a special edition featuring Prime Minister Anthony Albanese's 2025 Curtin Oration in Sydney on Saturday 5 July on the 80th anniversary of John Curtin's passing and the PM's expansive Q and A which followed with our centre's Chair, Sam Almaliki.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 19 - 2 July 2025 - David Swift (Author of Scouse Republic: An Alternative History of Liverpool)

    We had a fabulous chat this week on Curtin's Cast with one of Britain's finest young historians, authors and leading political commentator, David Swift. Co-hosts Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras deep dived into Dave's latest book, Scouse Republic: An Alternative History of Liverpool (Constable). We explored what makes Liverpool unique culturally and politically and touched on all manner of other subjects from Nigel Farage, why "Tory" is such a venomous insult, and what the left gets right and wrong about working people. Enjoy!    

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 18 - 25 June 2025 - Basem Abdo (Labor Member for Calwell)

    This week's episode is a cracker featuring Basem Abdo, the newly elected Labor MP for Calwell in Melbourne's outer north-western suburbs. Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth deep dived into Basem's back story, the son of Palestinian migrants growing up in 'Broady' who went from flipping burgers to sitting in federal parliament in 2025, his previous work in the private sector and government, and fervent working-class passion for rebuilding opportunity and secure, well-paying jobs for Calwell's young people through manufacturing and reindustrialisation.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 17 - 18 June 2025 - Generational Tectonic Plates

    In the latest Curtin's Cast Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth deep dive into the seismic ways Millennials and Gen Z - who collectively make up over 43% of the electorate - are disrupting politics just as the Baby Boomers did post-WWII. Based off exclusive Redbridge polling we look at how the shifting of generational tectonic plates is reshaping the media, advertising and industries such as gambling but is yet to be reflected properly in our democratic institutions and policy settings. There are big lessons for all sides of politics - on the Right but also competition on the left.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 16 - 11 June 2025 - Emma Dawson (Chifley Research Centre)

    This week's Curtin's Cast is a cracker featuring the Chifley Research Centre's (official thinktank of the Australian Labor Party) new Executive Director Emma Dawson, one of the best and most forthright thinkers in social democratic circles. With Anthony Albanese giving his first major address to the National Press Club, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras chat to Emma about her background, from being born in Northern England, working as a political advisor, running the progressive Per Capita thinktank, her new role, and of course what's going on in Australian politics and what's next for the second term Albanese Labor government.  Emma Dawson is Executive Director of the Chifley Research Centre and former Executive Director of Per Capita. She has worked as a researcher at Monash University and the University of Melbourne; in policy and public affairs for SBS and Telstra; and as a senior policy adviser in the Rudd and Gillard Governments. Emma has published reports, articles and opinion pieces on a wide range of public policy issues. She is a regular contributor to Guardian Australia, The Age and The Australian Financial Review, and a frequent guest on various ABC and commercial radio programs nationally. She appears regularly as an expert witness before parliamentary inquiries and often speaks at public events and conferences in Australia and internationally. Emma is the co-editor, with Professor Janet McCalman, of the collection of essays What happens next? Reconstructing Australia after COVID-19, published by Melbourne University Press in September 2020. She is a Fellow of the Women’s Leadership Institute of Australia and an Adjunct Professor at the UTS Business School.  

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 15 - 4 June 2025 - Michael Samaras

    On this week's Curtin's Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras chat to Michael Samaras (no relation to the latter!), a Sydney-based researcher, writer and historian, who in 2022 uncovered the Nazi past of the founding benefactor of the Wollongong Art Gallery. Michael has just published a fascinating new book, Anti-Fascists : Jim McNeill and his mates in the Spanish Civil War (Connor Court).  Anti-Fascists : Jim McNeill and his mates in the Spanish Civil War by Michael Samaras The Australians who fought against Franco in the Spanish Civil War were men and women of conscience. They were prescient in their understanding of fascism’s threat and convinced that taking up arms against it was the right thing to do. They were Australia’ s pioneers against fascism. Jim McNeill, a Wollongong steelworker, stowed away in the bottom of a meat ship to get to Europe and join the famed International Brigades. He was a man of strong political convictions who fought fascism at home and abroad. He was friends with the charismatic hero Ted Dickinson, the conscientious Bill Morcom, the musical Jack Franklyn and the life-hardened Joe Carter. They became part of McNeill’s life. Their stories form part of his story and are told here with his. This book ensures that the memory of these courageous Australians is not forgotten. Anti-Fascists explains why they went to Spain, what happened to them there, and what became of them after the war. John Faulkner, Former Labor Senate Leader: This book is a deeply researched account of the history and motivation of a small band of courageous Australians who, without government approval or support, travelled to Spain in a vain attempt to defeat fascism. A great read for any history buff. Paul Daley, Author and Guardian writer: With a meticulous historical eye and elegant prose, Michael Samaras brings to life the courage and commitment of Jim McNeill and other Australians who fought fascism in Spain. This remarkable book represents the long overdue historical remembrance of an overlooked group of extraordinary Australian women and men.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 14 - 28 May 2025 - Post-Election Fallout and What Comes Next

    In the final post-election Curtin's Cast wrap Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth discussed the on-off again Coalition partyroom divorce, why the Liberals stand to gain from a trial separation from the Nationals, the hysterical opposition from some Liberals and right-wing commentators to Labor's tightening of multi-million dollar superannuation tax concessions, and Nick looks ahead to some of the big issues which will dominate the next term of parliament including Artificial Intelligence, while Kos gives us a rundown on the remaining hotly contested electoral contests.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 13 - 21 May 2025 - Prof Paul Strangio

    With time and space for more considered reflection on the federal election that was, Kos Samaras and Nick Dyrenfurth sat down with one of the doyens of political history and significant public intellectual in Australia, Monash University's Professor Paul Strangio. We deep dived into the election that was, why voters voted the way they did, where 2025 sits in the pantheon of Labor victories, ask is this finally the end of Howardism, and explore the depth of the Liberal Party's troubles especially in Victoria.  About Paul Paul Strangio is Emeritus Professor of Politics in the School of Social Sciences at Monash University. Paul specialises in Australian political history, with a particular focus on political leadership and political parties. He’s an author and editor of 11 books, including Keeper Of The Faith: A biography of Jim Cairns, studies of the Australian prime ministers, Neither Power Nor Glory: 100 Years of Political Labor in Victoria, 1856–1956 and, with Nick Dyrenfurth, edited Confusion: The Making of the Australian Two-Party System. He’s been a frequent commentator on Australian politics in the print and election media, including a regular column for The Age, and for a number of years has had a regular segment on ABC Radio Melbourne.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 12 - 14 May 2025 - Andrew Hastie MP

    We've got a cracking episode of Curtin's Cast this week featuring Liberal Party rising star and MP for Canning in Western Australia, Andrew Hastie, who was their only metropolitan adjacent seat holder to record an increase in his primary and 2 party preferred vote. Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras chatted to Andrew about his early life and family as the son of a clergyman and grandson of soldiers, the importance of faith, his service in the Army's SAS, the battle of ideas and why he might be best described ideologically as a Red Tory, the life of West Australian MP and mates in politics including the much missed Senator Kimberley Kitching, the Liberal party's recent struggles and future leadership aspirations.

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 11 - 7 May 2025 - Kos and Nick Unpack Election 2025

    The 2025 Australian federal election has been won - in a big and history-making way by Anthony Albanese's Labor Party - and lost in a humiliating manner for the Liberal-National Coalition led by Peter Dutton, who lost his own seat on May 3. On episode 11, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras unpack virtually every element of the campaign that was - what Labor did well, why the Libs tanked, the disastrous Greens' performance, the One Nation/Trumpet of Patriots flop, state-based results and key seats, how gender, age and ethnicity played out, as well as the key issues which swung the campaign. This Curtin's Cast is your one-stop shop review of all things democracy sausage!

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 10 - 30 April 2025 - Mega Election Preview with Shaun Ratcliff

    Curtin's Cast MEGA federal election preview! On tomorrow's episode of our podcast with Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras we are joined by psephological superstar Shaun Ratcliff of Accent Research. We discuss all things democracy sausage including who will win and why, the key seats to watch, does it matter whether party leaders know how much a carton of eggs cost, what respective campaign HQs will be up to in the final days and much more!

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    Curtin's Cast Episode 9 - 23 April 2025 - Drew Westen

    We have a fantastic episode of Curtin's Cast this week featuring Professor Drew Westen, well-known US political psychologist and author of the super influential 2007 book, 'The Political Brain: The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation'. We spoke to Drew about his book – including receiving praise from Bill Clinton (which he initially thought was a hoax!) - why feelings trump facts every time, what the Left gets wrong about voters, Trumpism and much more! About Drew Westen Drew Westen is a Professor in the Departments of Psychology and Psychiatry at Emory University and formerly taught at the University of Michigan and Harvard Medical School. He is founder of Westen Strategies a strategic messaging consulting firm that serves nonprofits and political organizations and the author of three books and countless scholarly articles, including The Political Brain: The Role of Emotion in Deciding the Fate of the Nation. The book has been widely used by political candidates and leaders around the world and is credited as having influenced campaign strategies in a number of races, beginning with the 2008 Presidential race. President Bill Clinton described it as one of the most significant books in politics he had read in a decade. He has advised a range of organizations, from presidential and prime ministerial campaigns in the US and internationally.

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    Curtin's Cast - Episode 8 - 16 April 2025 - Kos and Nick Mid-Election Pulse

    On Episode 8 of Curtin's Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kosmos Samaras take the pulse of the federal election halfway through the campaign. Kos gives us an update on what the polls are telling us drawing on his decades of experience, how campaign launches work, key seats watch from across the continent, what's behind Peter Dutton's seeming implosion and competing party machines, while Nick and Kos trade contrarian takes on housing policy and Jacinta Nampijinpa Price's MAGA-phone. Is this the worst federal election Liberal campaign in modern history? Listen to Curtin's Cast at your favourite streaming service to find out the answer!

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    Curtin's Cast - Episode 7 - 9 April 2025 - Dai Le

    We have a powerful, compelling episode of Curtin's Cast Episode 7 for your listening pleasure this week featuring the Independent MP for Fowler in in Sydney's outer southwestern suburbs, Dai Le Co-Hosts Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras chatted to Dai about her arresting back story, from her dramatic departure from Vietnam in April 1975, life as a refugee family first in the Philippines and then Australia, her career in journalism and finally becoming a politician at a local and then federal level, the first Vietnamese-Australian MP to sit in the nation's parliament.

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    Curtin's Cast - Episode 6 - 2 April 2025 - Nick and Kos on Election Week 1

    On Episode 6 of Curtin's Cast, Nick Dyrenfurth and Kos Samaras unpack Week One of the federal election. Kos tells what to take from the avalanche of new polling, key seats to watch in the outer suburbs and inner-cities, Liberal woes and the "Trump bump", plus they deep dive into a major research project the John Curtin Research Centre and RedBridge Group are undertaking on right-wing populism.  Listen to Curtin's Cast Episode 6 at your favourite streaming service!

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