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Decoding Cultural Leadership
by Samuel Cairnduff
Decoding Cultural Leadership is a podcast that explores the intersection between the arts, culture and society and interrogates what it means to be a cultural leader in the 21st century. In each episode, host Samuel Cairnduff talks with some of the most influential organisational leaders, creators, policy-makers and thought leaders, building an understanding of their approach to shifting the dial in a complex, constantly changing world. By talking to influential leaders whose voices resonate in the community, Decoding Cultural Leadership seeks to gain a deeper perspective on how cultural organisations see their role in the community, how they make hard decisions, and how they address the needs of multiple stakeholders. Culture and society are deeply connected. Decoding Cultural Leadership explores this complex relationship through deep conversation with our greatest cultural leaders. Join us as we decode cultural leadership.<
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Episode 48: RESONATE Participants - Young musicians leading change in neurodivergent-inclusive classical music
This episode marks a departure from our usual format as we delve into an initiative close to my heart: RESONATE, a programme I've developed with the Australian Youth Orchestra through my consultancy. Rather than interviewing established cultural leaders, we're hearing directly from the next generation of classical musicians who are actively reshaping the industry from within.In this participant-led conversation, violist and composer Sophia Mackson, harpist and composer Paul Nicolaou, and French horn player Milly McAuliffe engage in a candid discussion about neurodivergence in orchestral music. Facilitated by Julia Hill, these four young musicians don't just theorise about inclusion - they're living it, advocating for it, and creating new models for how classical music can embrace neurodivergent artists and audiences.What You'll HearThe conversation moves seamlessly between personal experiences and practical solutions, covering:Understanding neurodivergence - Moving beyond stereotypes to recognise the full spectrum of ADHD, autism, and other conditions, and how they manifest differently in each individualExecutive dysfunction in practice - How time blindness, motivation challenges, and decision-making difficulties affect everything from daily practice routines to orchestral rehearsalsNavigating orchestral etiquette - The unspoken rules that can be particularly challenging for neurodivergent musicians, from section hierarchy to break room dynamicsTransformative teaching approaches - How supportive educators like Patricia Pollet and Alice Giles create inclusive learning environments by adapting to individual needs rather than enforcing rigid methodsInnovative performance design - Paul's groundbreaking "Elemental Resonance" concert, which used sensory elements to create accessible experiences for neurodivergent, elderly, and young audiencesInstitutional culture change - Why policies aren't enough when workplace culture remains exclusionary, and how freelance networking disadvantages neurodivergent musiciansThe diagnosis journey - Honest accounts of seeking assessment, facing dismissive healthcare providers, and the validation that comes with understanding oneselfWorkplace accommodations - From access riders to adequate break times, practical strategies that benefit all musicians whilst supporting specific needsKey Insights"I think accessibility and accommodations should be the baseline... should be a fundamental in rehearsals, but also just talking to people." - Sophia Mackson"The effort that organisations are putting in isn't for this one tiny group, it's for everyone, which includes this tiny group." - Paul Nicolaou"Just assume that there is someone in your ensemble that is neurodivergent. We know the statistics mean that's incredibly likely, if not certain." - Milly McAuliffe"Your experiences are valid and they're real... you know yourself better than anyone else." - Paul NicolaouWhy This MattersThis conversation represents a generational shift in classical music. These musicians aren't waiting for permission to create change - they're composing, per Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 47: Simon Hinton: Leading Merrigong Theatre Company with Vision, Community and Courage
Simon Hinton has been Artistic Director and CEO of Merrigong Theatre Company in Wollongong since 2005. Under his leadership, Merrigong has grown from a presenting venue into Australia’s largest regional producing theatre company. With a deep commitment to community, First Nations engagement, and supporting independent artists, Simon has become one of the country’s most respected regional arts leaders.In this episode, Simon reflects on two decades of cultural leadership and what it takes to sustain a regional company that balances commercial realities with artistic ambition. The conversation explores his philosophy of governance, his advocacy for ethical and values-based leadership, and the ways in which Merrigong’s programs—especially MERRIGONGX—nurture and empower independent artists.We also discuss how regional contexts can keep organisations grounded, why long-term community embeddedness matters, and how arts organisations must respond to challenges such as post-COVID recovery, sustainability, and the disruptive potential of AI. Simon shares candid insights into the importance of holding space for ambiguity and resisting the polarisation of public discourse, positioning culture as a rare arena where diverse perspectives can meet.Key Discussion PointsSimon’s 20-year journey leading Merrigong Theatre CompanyBuilding a producing company in a regional contextRethinking governance and the need for moral leadership in the artsEmbedding First Nations voices and self-determined programmingThe development and impact of the MERRIGONGX artist programBalancing community use, commercial viability, and artistic innovationPost-COVID reflections on how the sector values artistsThe challenges of sustainability, cultural ecology, and sector competitionAI, polarisation, and the responsibility of the arts to hold space for ambiguityMemorable Quotes“It’s not really measured in years. It’s measured in decades… this is a deep tilling of the earth and a planting of seeds to change the cultural landscape.”“We need to work at the speed of trust.”“Maybe we’ll be the last people that hold some space for silence and contemplation, where differing views can coexist.”LinksMerrigong Theatre CompanyMERRIGONGXBlakDanceNORPACreate NSWConnect with Decoding Cultural LeadershipInstagram: @DCLPod Threads: @DCLPod X: Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 46: Rosemarie Milsom - Newcastle Writers Festival founder on ethical courage and cultural leadership through crisis
Due to recent events at Bendigo Writers Festival, we felt it timely to release this episode, recorded earlier this year.Sam reconnects with Rosemarie Milsom, founding director of Newcastle Writers Festival, whose crisis management approach offers a masterclass in ethical cultural leadership. With journalism experience and current role as Walkley Book Award panel chair, Rosemarie navigated unprecedented challenges whilst maintaining commitment to diverse voices.Crisis LeadershipFollowing October 7, 2023, Rosemarie faced escalating tensions with programmed writers holding opposing Israel-Palestine views. The situation required police intervention, including tactical response teams.Her approach emphasised stakeholder engagement over public statements - tailored communication strategies and proactive consultation months before controversy emerged. Despite intense social media campaigns and direct threats, she maintained the festival's commitment to all invited writers without losing a single artist.Cultural Leadership InsightsRosemarie contrasts her approach with recent institutional retreats, arguing many leaders abandon missions due to fear. Her perspective proves powerful given her background as a Bosnian Muslim who lost family to genocide, yet demonstrates separating personal feelings from professional responsibilities.The festival operates without major donors, building grassroots support whilst maintaining ethical positions like refusing coal industry funding.Key Quotes"If you start removing artists from what you do, it's a really slippery slope.""When you're in a leadership position, if you let fear govern your existence, then I think you probably shouldn't be in a leadership position."LinksNewcastle Writers Festival: https://www.newcastlewritersfestival.org.au/Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership Instagram: @DCLPod | Threads: @DCLPod | X: @DCLPod Email: [email protected] | www.samuelcairnduff.comPresenter and research: Dr Samuel Cairnduff Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 45: Seb Chan - Reimagining cultural institutions for tomorrow's communities
This week's conversation features Seb Chan, Director and CEO of ACMI and National President of the Australian Museums and Galleries Association, exploring his innovative approach to cultural leadership and institutional transformation.Seb shares insights from his journey from experimental music and club culture to pioneering digital transformation at major cultural institutions. He discusses how museums and cultural spaces can rebuild trust and relevance in a rapidly changing world.Key discussion points include:Evolving role of cultural institutions in building community trustDigital transformation and preservation challengesDesigning accessible cultural spaces that reduce threshold fearFocus and attention in the age of social mediaCultural translation and community engagementFuture integration of cultural spaces with community infrastructureThe garden metaphor for sustainable digital developmentLeadership versus management in cultural institutionsBuilding intergenerational connections through cultural experiencesThe role of institutions in addressing major societal challengesThroughout the conversation, Seb emphasises the importance of creating spaces for meaningful community interaction and the need for cultural institutions to actively shape conversations about our shared future.Links:ACMIAustralian Museums and Galleries Association (AMaGA)RMIT UniversityAbout Seb Chan: Seb Chan is the Director and CEO of ACMI and National President of AMAGA. His career spans pioneering roles in digital transformation at the Cooper Hewitt Smithsonian Design Museum in New York and the Powerhouse Museum in Sydney. He is recognised internationally for his innovative approach to museum engagement and cultural leadership.Episode Credits:Host: Samuel CairnduffGuest: Seb Chan Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 44: Michelle Leonard OAM- Transforming communities through song
This week's conversation features Michelle Leonard OAM, founder and artistic director of Moorambilla Voices, discussing her transformative work bringing high-quality music education to regional communities and her unique approach to cultural leadership built on deep connection to country and community.Michelle shares insights from her journey from regional NSW to becoming one of Australia's most influential voices in community-engaged musical practice, and discusses how authentic artistic experiences can transform lives and communities.Key discussion points include:Building sustainable arts programs in regional communitiesThe role of music in developing resilience and connectionCreating genuine engagement with First Nations communities and cultureThe importance of long-term commitment in cultural leadershipDeveloping artistic excellence through community engagementThe transformative power of collective musical experiencesCultural leadership as a force for social cohesionBuilding sustainable arts organizations in regional settingsThe need for authenticity in arts leadershipMentoring the next generation of cultural leadersThroughout the conversation, Michelle emphasizes the importance of creating genuine connections through artistic practice and the need for cultural leaders to work with tenacity and deep respect for community and country.Links:Moorambilla VoicesMichelle Leonard's TED Talk "How can music change a child's life?"The Shape of Sand (Performance video)The Shape of Water (Performance video)About Michelle Leonard: Michelle Leonard OAM is the founder and artistic director of Moorambilla Voices, established in 2006. Her innovative work bringing high-quality music education to regional NSW has been recognized internationally. She received an Order of Australia Medal for her service to the performing arts through music. Her work has been particularly notable for deep engagement with First Nations communities and artists, creating genuine cultural connections through music. Her TED Talk "How can music change a child's life?" has brought international attention to the transformative impact of music in regional communities. Through Moorambilla Voices, she has worked with thousands of children across regional NSW, creating an internationally recognised program that combines artistic excellence with authentic community engagement.Episode Credits:Host: Samuel CairnduffGuest: Michelle Leonard OAM Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 39: Joel Carnegie - Stories, Sound and Community Connection
This week's conversation features Joel Carnegie, award-winning storyteller, broadcaster and musician, discussing his journey creating powerful audio narratives and live performances that deeply connect with communities.Joel shares insights from his groundbreaking national tour of 'Stardust & The Mission', which combined storytelling, music and community engagement through collaborations with local brass bands across Australia. He reflects on the challenges and opportunities of creating cultural work in a post-COVID landscape.Key discussion points include:The evolution from musician to storyteller and producerBuilding sustainable creative careers through multiple streamsDeep community engagement through local collaborationsThe impact of digital distraction on cultural consumptionRethinking elite musical training institutionsCreating accessible and inclusive artistic experiencesThe role of story in shaping Australian cultural identitySustainable models for arts funding and creationSupporting artists through career challengesDigital platforms' impact on cultural productionThroughout the conversation, Joel emphasises the importance of authentic storytelling that connects with place and community. He advocates for more sustainable and inclusive approaches to cultural creation and consumption.Links:ABC ClassicThe Storymakers InstituteHell's GatesStardust & The MissionAbout Joel Carnegie: Joel Carnegie is an award-winning storyteller, audio producer and musician. His work spans radio, podcasting, theatre and music, with a focus on telling uniquely Australian stories. He currently hosts evenings on ABC Classic and produces The Storymakers Institute podcast.Episode Credits:Host: Samuel CairnduffGuest: Joel Carnegie Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 43: Stephen Block - From ASQ Pioneer to Festival Director
This week's conversation features Stephen Block, Director of the Tasmanian Chamber Music Festival, discussing his remarkable journey in arts leadership from the early days of the Australian String Quartet through to his current role.Stephen shares fascinating insights from his formative years in Adelaide during the Dunstan era, and his pivotal role in establishing the Australian String Quartet as a national chamber music ensemble. He discusses the evolution of arts funding and audience development in Australia through his various leadership roles.Key discussion points include:The cultural impact of the Dunstan era in South AustraliaEstablishing the Australian String QuartetBuilding national touring networksDeveloping corporate partnerships and philanthropyThe role of chamber music in contemporary societyProgramming for heritage venuesFestival development and audience engagementThe importance of architectural heritage in concert presentationBuilding sustainable arts organisationsThe evolution of arts leadership in AustraliaThroughout the conversation, Stephen emphasises the importance of creating memorable aesthetic experiences and building lasting relationships with audiences and supporters.Links:Tasmanian Chamber Music FestivalVan Diemen's BandAustralian String QuartetAbout Stephen Block: Stephen Block is the Director of the Tasmanian Chamber Music Festival. His career spans major roles including CEO of the Australian String Quartet and General Manager of Melbourne Chamber Orchestra. He has made significant contributions to chamber music in Australia through various leadership positions.Episode Credits:Host: Samuel CairnduffGuest: Stephen Block Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 42: Timothy Walker CBE AM - From Tasmania to International Arts Leadership
This week's conversation features Timothy Walker CBE AM, former Chief Executive and Artistic Director of the London Philharmonic Orchestra, discussing his remarkable journey from Tasmania to leading one of the world's great orchestras.Tim shares insights from his extensive career in arts leadership, including transforming the Australian Chamber Orchestra into a full-time ensemble, founding World Orchestras, and his 17-year tenure leading the London Philharmonic Orchestra from 2002 to 2020.Key discussion points include:Building sustainable arts organisationsThe unique player-owned orchestra modelBalancing artistic excellence with commercial viabilityOrchestra governance and board dynamicsProgramming for diverse audiencesCultural leadership versus managementAustralian orchestras' relationship with societySupporting young musicians through educationSocial responsibility in arts organisationsThe impact of COVID-19 on orchestral performanceThroughout the conversation, Tim emphasises the importance of effective management and clear artistic vision in leading major cultural institutions. He advocates for orchestras to focus on their core mission while remaining responsive to community needs.Links:London Philharmonic OrchestraAustralian Chamber OrchestraAbout Timothy Walker: Timothy Walker CBE AM was Chief Executive and Artistic Director of the London Philharmonic Orchestra from 2002 to 2020. His career spans major leadership roles in Australian and international arts organisations. In 2020, he was awarded Commander of the British Empire (CBE) for services to arts and music.Episode Credits:Host: Samuel CairnduffGuest: Timothy Walker CBE AM Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 41: Guy Noble - Connecting Audiences Through Musical Storytelling
This week's conversation features Guy Noble, one of Australia's most versatile conductors and broadcasters, discussing his perspectives on orchestral leadership and audience engagement.Guy shares candid insights from his extensive career conducting major Australian orchestras and working with international artists. He reflects on the evolution of orchestral culture, programming challenges, and building connections with audiences.Key discussion points include:The changing role of orchestras in contemporary societyProgramming for diverse audiences whilst maintaining artistic standardsOrchestra musicians' evaluation of conductorsBuilding sustainable careers in classical musicThe impacts of COVID-19 on performing artsSupporting emerging Australian conductorsThe future of orchestral performanceThroughout the conversation, Guy emphasises the importance of balancing artistic excellence with accessibility and entertainment value. He advocates for a more inclusive approach to classical music that maintains high standards while engaging broader audiences.Links:Australian Youth Orchestra REPLA.Y.O ProgrammeAbout Guy Noble: Guy Noble is one of Australia's most experienced conductors, having worked with all major Australian orchestras as well as leading international ensembles. He is also a respected broadcaster, pianist and presenter known for his ability to connect classical music with diverse audiences.Episode Credits:Host: Samuel CairnduffGuest: Guy Noble Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 38: Jessica Gethin - Cultural Leadership from the Podium
This week's conversation features Jessica Gethin, one of Australia's leading conductors and newly appointed Artistic Advisor of Orchestra Victoria, discussing her journey in conducting and perspectives on cultural leadership.Jessica shares insights from her career development as a conductor in Australia, from her early days with Perth Symphony Orchestra through to her current roles with Orchestra Victoria and West Australian Ballet. She offers a unique perspective on building an international conducting career whilst remaining based in Australia.Key discussion points include:The pathway to conducting in AustraliaBuilding an entrepreneurial approach to career developmentThe role of mentorship and education in conductingChallenges facing conductors in AustraliaGender discrimination in classical musicThe evolution of orchestral cultureProgramming for diverse audiencesOrchestra Victoria's unique position in Australia's cultural landscapeBalancing artistic excellence with accessibilityThe importance of regional touring and community engagementThroughout the conversation, Jessica emphasises the importance of authentic leadership and building trust between conductor, musicians and management. She advocates for a more inclusive and sustainable approach to orchestral culture.Links:Orchestra VictoriaWest Australian BalletWA Academy of Performing Arts (WAAPA)About Jessica Gethin: Jessica Gethin is the Artistic Advisor of Orchestra Victoria and Principal Conductor of the West Australian Ballet. She is also Head of Orchestral Studies and Conducting at the WA Academy of Performing Arts. Her career spans opera, ballet and symphonic conducting across Australia and internationally.Episode Credits:Host: Samuel CairnduffGuest: Jessica Gethin Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 37: Sumayya Usmani - Food Writing, Cultural Identity and Creative Evolution
This week's conversation features Sumayya Usmani, award-winning food writer and author, discussing her remarkable journey from law to becoming a leading voice in food writing and cultural storytelling.Sumayya shares fascinating insights from her unique childhood spent travelling on merchant ships, and how this influenced her perspective on food, culture and belonging. She discusses her transition from corporate law to food writing, including her groundbreaking 2016 cookbook 'Summers Under the Tamarind Tree', which was listed as one of The Independent's best cookbooks of that year.Key discussion points include:Growing up on merchant ships and its influence on her worldviewThe transition from law to creative writingThe development of Pakistani cuisine and its cultural narrativeWriting as a means of exploring displacement and identityThe role of food in connecting culturesCreative evolution and following one's intuitionCurrent doctoral research into culinary displacementThe impact of partition on South Asian foodwaysContemporary British cultural dynamicsThroughout the conversation, Sumayya reflects on her role as a cultural mediator, using food and writing to bridge understanding between different communities. She emphasises the importance of telling stories that explore the deeper cultural and historical contexts of cuisine.Links:'Summers Under the Tamarind Tree: Recipes and Memories from Pakistan''Andaza: A Memoir of Food, Flavour and Freedom'The Craft: stories about writing & the writers' spirit- PodcastQISSA Writers' CommunityAbout Sumayya Usmani: Sumayya Usmani is an award-winning food writer and author. Her books have garnered international acclaim for their exploration of Pakistani cuisine and culture. She is currently pursuing a doctorate in creative writing at the University of Glasgow, examining themes of culinary displacement and cultural identity.Episode Credits:Host: Samuel CairnduffGuest: Sumayya Usmani Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 36: Amy Maiden - Transforming Audience Engagement in the Arts
This week's conversation features Amy Maiden, discussing her journey from musical theatre performer to leading audience engagement strategist.Amy shares candid insights from her career journey, including her formative years in London's West End working with major organisations like AKA. She reflects on organising landmark charity events like the 2009 Black Saturday bushfire appeal concert at London's Princess Theatre, and how these experiences shaped her approach to arts marketing and audience development.Key discussion points include:The evolution from performer to arts marketer and strategistBuilding innovative marketing approaches for West End productionsThe impact of digital transformation on audience behaviourUnderstanding contemporary fandom and audience psychologyPreventing burnout in arts administrationThe changing nature of arts leadership and cultural institutionsNew models for engaging diverse audiencesThe intersection of commercial and subsidised artsThroughout the conversation, Amy emphasises the importance of understanding audience behaviour and creating meaningful connections between arts organisations and their communities. She advocates for more sustainable work practices in arts administration while maintaining passion and artistic excellence.This episode offers valuable perspectives on contemporary arts marketing and audience development from someone who has helped shape major innovations in the field.Links:Anthem - Arts Marketing & StrategyAKA UKAbout Amy Maiden: At the time of recording, Amy Maiden was Managing Partner at Anthem, and is now Chief Executive of the company. Her career spans major roles in London's West End and Australian arts organisations including Australian Theatre for Young People and Sydney Festival. She is recognised as an innovator in arts marketing and audience engagement strategy.Episode Credits:Host: Samuel CairnduffGuest: Amy Maiden Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 33: Christopher Lawrence - Cultural Broadcasting and Leadership in Australian Arts
This week's conversation features Christopher Lawrence, one of Australia's most distinguished broadcasters and cultural commentators, reflecting on his four-decade career at the forefront of classical music broadcasting and arts leadership.Christopher shares fascinating insights from his career at the ABC, including memorable interviews with musical legends Stefan Grappelli and Stephen Sondheim. He discusses the evolution of classical music broadcasting in Australia, from the early days of ABC FM through to contemporary challenges.Key discussion points include:The changing role of public broadcasting in Australian cultureThe development of the ABC Classic FM 'Swoon' phenomenonProgramming classical music for contemporary audiencesArts governance and board leadershipThe role of youth orchestras in cultural developmentReflections on Stuart Challender's legacyThe future of Australian conductingContemporary challenges in arts broadcastingThe relationship between commercial and cultural imperativesPersonal insights into legendary musical figuresThroughout the conversation, Christopher reflects on the evolving role of cultural institutions and the importance of maintaining artistic integrity whilst reaching new audiences.Links:Sydney Youth OrchestrasABC ClassicVan Diemen's BandAbout Christopher Lawrence: Christopher Lawrence is one of Australia's most experienced and respected music broadcasters, with a career spanning over 40 years. He has served on numerous arts boards and authored several books. He continues to be involved in arts governance and broadcasting from his base in Tasmania.Episode Credits:Host: Samuel CairnduffGuest: Christopher Lawrence Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 35: Umberto Clerici -The QSO’s Chief Conductor: Transforming Orchestra Culture
This week's guest is Umberto Clerici, Chief Conductor of the Queensland Symphony Orchestra, speaking on the occasion of his contract renewal announcement.In this fascinating conversation, Umberto shares insights from his remarkable journey from internationally acclaimed cellist to his current role leading one of Australia's major orchestras. He discusses his unexpected transition to conducting, his philosophy on orchestra leadership, and his vision for classical music's role in contemporary society.The interview explores Umberto's unique perspective as a musician who spent 20 years performing in orchestras before taking up the baton. He reflects on how this experience shapes his approach to conducting and working with musicians, emphasising the importance of emotional intelligence and understanding orchestra dynamics.Key discussion points include:The conductor's role in empowering musicians while maintaining artistic directionChallenges facing young conductors in AustraliaContrasts between European and Australian cultural landscapesThe role of orchestras in social discourse and community engagementBalancing artistic excellence with accessibilityQSO's initiatives including regional touring and First Nations engagementThe future of classical music in an AI-driven worldThroughout the conversation, Umberto emphasizes his vision of normalizing classical music in Australian cultural life while maintaining its power to challenge, inspire, and open minds. He advocates for orchestras to engage with contemporary issues through programming, while maintaining artistic rather than political focus.This conversation offers valuable insights into cultural leadership from someone who brings both deep musical expertise and fresh perspectives to orchestral conducting.Links:Queensland Symphony OrchestraAbout Umberto Clerici:Umberto Clerici is the Chief Conductor of the Queensland Symphony Orchestra. His international career began as a cellist, making his solo debut at age 17 in Japan. He has performed at prestigious venues including Carnegie Hall, Vienna's Musicverein, and is one of only two Italians to win a prize for cello in the International Tchaikovsky Competition. Before transitioning to conducting in 2018, he served as Principal Cello with the Sydney Symphony Orchestra. He performs on cellos by Matteo Goffriller (1722, Venezia) and Carlo Antonio Testore (1758, Milano).Episode Credits:Host: Samuel CairnduffGuest: Umberto Clerici Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 31: Union House Theatre Team: theatre-making in the heart of the University of Melbourne
In this exciting episode of Decoding Cultural Leadership, we dive into the vibrant world of student theatre at the University of Melbourne. We speak with the passionate team behind Union House Theatre (UHT) about fostering emerging cultural leaders and the role of student theatre in shaping the arts sector.Our guests share valuable insights into:UHT's role as a platform for student creativity and leadershipThe journey from student theatre to professional practiceInnovative approaches to marketing student productionsCreating safe spaces for artistic experimentation and growthThe importance of theatre in driving social changeFeatured guests:Xanthe Beesley- Artistic Director and Theatre Coordinator, UHTSimran Giria - Marketing and Development Officer, UHTCharlotte Rogers- UHT alumna and co-founder of Short Straw Theatre CompanyHazel Pigrum - Current student and co-founder of Short Straw Theatre CompanyKey themes:Facilitation as a creative practiceThe transient nature of student theatre communitiesMarketing as an artistic endeavourTheatre's unique capacity for social impactBalancing artistic expression with audience engagementLinks:Union House Theatre websiteUHT InstagramUHT FacebookShort Straw Theatre CompanyUniversity of Melbourne Student Union (UMSU) Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 32: Professor Ruth Rentschler - A pioneer of arts management studies on cultural leadership
This week's guest is Professor Ruth Rentschler OAMRuth Rentschler is a pioneering figure in arts and cultural management education in Australia. She is currently Professor of Arts and Cultural Leadership at the University of South Australia Business School.In this wide-ranging conversation, Ruth discusses her extensive career spanning academia and arts governance. She shares insights from her current role as Chair of the Australian Dance Theater board, her work in developing arts management as an academic discipline, and her thoughts on the evolving nature of cultural leadership.Ruth reflects on her early career transition from business to academia, including her instrumental role in establishing one of Australia's first arts management programs at Deakin University. She discusses the initial resistance to professionalising arts leadership and how perceptions have changed over time.The interview explores Ruth's perspectives on arts governance, the changing expectations of board members, and the challenges facing cultural institutions in balancing artistic integrity with financial sustainability. She offers thoughtful reflections on Australia's approach to arts boards compared to international models.Throughout the conversation, Ruth emphasises the importance of maintaining an artistic voice in governance while professionalising management practices. She advocates for diversity and inclusion on boards and in leadership roles, highlighting recent positive changes in the sector.Ruth also shares insights from her extensive research and writing on arts marketing, entrepreneurship, and governance. She discusses her upcoming book on international perspectives on arts governance, highlighting the diversity of approaches globally.This conversation offers valuable insights from one of Australia's most experienced cultural management educators on the evolving landscape of arts leadership, the role of education in developing cultural leaders, and the ongoing challenges and opportunities in the sector.Links: University of South Australia Business School Australian Dance Theater AIMAC (International Association of Arts and Cultural Management) Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 34: Ek Taghdir: cultural leadership in the Iranian diaspora
In this powerful episode of Decoding Cultural Leadership, recorded on International Women's Day, we speak with EK Taghdir, a passionate advocate for freedom and democracy in Iran. While there has been a delay in bringing this important conversation to our listeners, the themes and insights remain as relevant and urgent as ever.EK Taghdir, an Australian barrister of Iranian descent, shares his perspective on the ongoing struggle for human rights in Iran, particularly in light of the Woman, Life, Freedom movement. He provides valuable insights into:The cultural and political complexities of the situation in IranThe importance of distinguishing between the Iranian people and the Islamic Republic regimeThe role of the diaspora in supporting changeThe intersection of culture, identity, and social changeLinks:Woman, Life, Freedom MovementNazanin Boniadi - Actor and human rights activistCrown Prince Reza Pahlavi - Iranian opposition figureDr. Kylie Moore-Gilbert - Author of "The Uncaged Sky"Sydney Peace PrizeSenator Claire Chandler - Australian politician mentioned in the interviewKeith Wolahan MP - Member for Menzies mentioned in the interviewWe encourage our listeners to explore these resources and consider how they can support the cause of freedom and human rights in Iran and beyond. Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 30: Kim Williams: The new ABC Chair and acclaimed arts leaders on his vision for vitality of the national broadcaster
This week's guest is Kim Williams AMKim Williams is one of Australia's most experienced and respected arts and media executives. He is currently the Chair of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC), appointed in March 2023. In this wide-ranging conversation, Kim discusses his diverse career spanning music, media, culture and sport. He shares insights from his current role at the ABC, his vision for the national broadcaster as Australia's "campfire", and thoughts on maintaining relevance in a rapidly changing media landscape.Kim reflects on his early career in music, including time studying with Luciano Berio in Italy, before transitioning into arts administration roles. He discusses his time leading organisations like Musica Viva, Foxtel, and the Australian Film Commission.The interview explores Kim's perspectives on cultural leadership, the changing nature of public discourse, and the challenges facing cultural institutions in the digital age. He offers thoughtful reflections on Australia's relationship with culture, the importance of Australian stories and voices, and the ongoing value of public broadcasting.Throughout the conversation, Kim emphasises the critical role of intellectual and creative endeavour in society. He advocates for ambitious programming, innovation, and a commitment to quality across the arts and media landscape. Kim also shares his enduring passion for music, discussing the state of classical music in Australia and highlighting several outstanding ensembles and initiatives. He expresses optimism about the future of music in Australia while acknowledging ongoing challenges in music education.This conversation offers valuable insights from one of Australia's most experienced cultural leaders on the evolving media landscape, the role of public institutions, and the importance of creativity and intellect in shaping society.Links:Australian Broadcasting CorporationMusica Viva Australia Australian Youth OrchestraConnect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffPresenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership Culture. Society. Conversations. Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 29: Claire Edwardes OAM - Percussion virtuoso and artistic director of Ensemble Offspring on leading a thriving arts organisation
In this episode, Sam speaks with Claire Edwardes OAM, percussionist and artistic director of Ensemble Offspring, about:Claire's journey with Ensemble Offspring from its student beginnings to becoming a leading new music organisationThe challenges and rewards of running a small arts organisation, including managing staff and juggling multiple projectsEnsemble Offspring's focus on championing new music, female composers, and First Nations artistsThe difficulties of marketing and touring new music compared to traditional classical repertoireClaire's role in advocating for gender equity in classical music programming through initiatives like KeychangeHer thoughts on the potential for innovation in orchestras post-COVID and why change has been limitedThe importance of long-term, meaningful collaborations with First Nations artists rather than tokenistic programmingBalancing artistic goals with the practical realities of funding and audience developmentClaire's approach to cultural leadership and using music as a vehicle for social changeKey quotes:"I love my role as an artistic director...because it gives me that flexibility and freedom in my life.""If you don't have that consciousness [about diversity], then nothing will ever change.""It's not flash in the pan programming...It's like you get to know [artists] over a period of years. You work with them...and you commit to that, like, for a lifetime.""We can keep pushing the envelope a bit without being kind of, you know, yucky about it, but just doing things that make people think about why and what and also just have fun."LinksEnsemble Offspring Claire Edwardes Keychange Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 28: Naarah: Rising star of musical theatre, singer, actress, educator and cultural leader on her trailblazing journey
In this episode, Sam speaks with Naarah, a talented young performer and cultural leader from Tasmania. Naarah shares her journey from teaching music in underserved communities to studying musical theatre at the prestigious Royal Academy of Music in London. She discusses the challenges and triumphs of building a career in the arts, the importance of representation and diversity on stage and screen, and her vision for cultural leadership.Key Topics:- Naarah's experience teaching music in low socioeconomic areas of Tasmania- Studying musical theatre at the Royal Academy of Music in London- The challenges of building a career in the arts industry- The importance of resilience and perseverance - Representation and diversity in the arts- Indigenous perspectives and advocacy- Cultural leadership and community values- Favourite musical theatre inspirations and dream rolesQuotes:"You can't be what you can't see. I just want young BIPOC and culturally and linguistically diverse people to see themselves on stage and to see us on screen.""I think what's really important about my work is not so much the performing and the glitzy dresses but it's the backlit Outback shows in winter and touring The Sapphires to a tiny little town.""The resilience required in this game is like nothing else."Links:Naarah's websiteNaarah on InstragramNaarah on TikTokAbout Naarah:Naarah is a Tasmanian performer, educator and cultural leader. She was named Young Tasmanian Australian of the Year in 2023 and is currently studying musical theatre at the Royal Academy of Music in London. Naarah is passionate about increasing diversity and representation in the arts and empowering young voices. Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 27: Julia Fredersdorff: Founder of Van Diemen's Band on building a world-leading baroque ensemble from the heart of Tasmania
In this episode, Sam speaks with Julia Fredersdorff, founder and artistic director of Van Diemen's Band, about:- Julia's journey from studying baroque violin in Europe to founding Van Diemen's Band in Tasmania- The challenges and rewards of starting a period instrument ensemble in Tasmania - Van Diemen's Band's mission to introduce audiences to lesser-known baroque repertoire- The importance of regional touring and building relationships with communities- Julia's approach to programming that balances familiar works with more obscure pieces- Her views on breaking down barriers between performers and audiences- The vibrant cultural scene in Tasmania and collaborations with other arts organizations- Future plans for Van Diemen's Band, including experimenting with cross-genre projects- Julia's philosophy of embracing the "imperfect" in both baroque instruments and performancesKey quotes:"I want to embrace the imperfect and not be afraid to make mistakes.""There's so much repertoire that people don't know...it's like the equivalent of a renovator's delight, in that you find this thing and you bring it back, and people go, 'Oh my God, that's so good.'""We're on a real mission...to make [our performance spaces] welcoming, and a place that is warm and friendly, not distant."Links:Van Diemen's Band Latitude 37 Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 26: Professor Peter Tregear - Thought leader, writer and academic on confronting change, mythology and meaning in classical music
My guest today is Professor Peter Tregear.A renowned scholar, performer, and cultural leader in the Australian arts landscape, Peter has had an incredibly varied and distinguished career. After completing his doctoral studies at the University of Cambridge, he went on to hold prestigious appointments as a Fellow at Fitzwilliam College, Cambridge, as well as the Dean of Trinity College at the University of Melbourne.In addition to his academic work, Peter is a regular performer in opera and oratorio, and has directed numerous historic revivals and premieres of operatic and instrumental works. He's worked extensively with major Australian arts organizations like Victorian Opera, Melbourne Opera, and the Australian Chamber Orchestra.Peter's academic research is focused on understanding music in its historical and cultural context, with a particular interest in the musical culture of the Weimar Republic and the impact of fascism on musicians. He's published widely and is a frequent contributor to outlets like The Conversation and Australian Book Review.We're thrilled to dive into his unique perspective on the state of the arts in Australia, the challenges of cultural stewardship, and the enduring power of music to connect us across time and place. Key Takeaways:Peter defines cultural leadership as a form of "trusteeship" and "custodianship" - leaders have a responsibility to serve the art form, the audience, and wider society.Peter is critical of the current state of cultural leadership in Australia, arguing that many arts organisations lack a clear vision and sense of purpose. He believes Australian arts leaders need to better articulate the value and relevance of heritage art forms like classical music to contemporary audiences.Peter is sceptical of the trend of bringing in international artistic directors/conductors who don't have a strong connection to the local community. He advocates for nurturing and elevating homegrown talent.Peter discusses the complex legacy of figures like Percy Grainger, highlighting the need to engage with the full narrative of complicated historical artists, both the positive and problematic.He sees music and the arts as having an important role to play in fostering cross-cultural understanding, particularly in the context of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.Notable Quotes:"Cultural leadership, if it implies that you're responsible for a particular cultural institution, or have a position of responsibility...is a form of trusteeship and custodianship.""If you really don't have a strong sense of what and why, and a real core belief that you have a responsibility to the wider world to say why, then it's probably not the job for you.""How do we think why do we think that the state symphony orchestra might be losing a sense of mutual belonging...if the chief conductor is on a contract of several hundred thousand dollars, and aren't expected to be in the state for six to eight weeks here?""There's nothing particularly special about the fact that this [classical music] stuff came from the so-called West...When we foreclose the idea that this music is only for certain types of people or ce Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 25: Professor Jo Caust: acclaimed academic talks art, politics and contemporary discourse
In this insightful conversation, Professor Jo Caust shares her remarkable journey from dedicated arts practitioner to renowned academic and author. Caust discusses her early experiences grappling with gender inequality in the arts industry, which motivated her to delve deeper into issues of leadership and power dynamics.Key Takeaways:Caust's trajectory from actor to arts administrator to respected academic, and the role of mentorship along the wayThe complex and often contradictory nature of "leadership" in the arts and cultural sectorCaust's perspectives on the persistent challenges of gender imbalance and discrimination in the artsThe tensions between government funding, artistic integrity, and social impact in arts organizationsCaust provides insight into her recent book "Art and Politics: Government and the Arts in Australia", exploring the ambivalent relationship between the arts and the Australian government. She also shares compelling examples of cultural organizations around the world demonstrating exemplary leadership.This wide-ranging conversation underscores the need for ongoing critical examination of power structures, funding models, and the social responsibilities of arts institutions - all with the aim of fostering more equitable, inclusive, and impactful cultural leadership.Links:Art and Politics: Government and the Arts in Australia"by Jo CaustThe Conversation - Jo Caust's articles Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 24: Brian Ritchie: Violent Femmes bassist and Mona Foma artistic director on playing a pivotal role in creating a cultural powerhouse in Tasmania
Guest: Brian Ritchie, bassist of the Violent Femmes and Artistic Director of Mona FOMASummary: Brian Ritchie first came to Tasmania in 1989 when the Violent Femmes played a sold-out show at the Hobart City Hall, sparking his long-standing connection to the state. He and his wife Varuni later moved to Tasmania in 2005, initially drawn by Varuni's research trips and their shared love of the Tasmanian landscape.Brian became involved with Mona (Museum of Old and New Art) from the beginning, helping to establish the Mona FOMA festival in 2009 prior to the museum's opening in 2011. He has served as the Artistic Director of Music at Mona ever since. Brian discusses how Mona has evolved from a more traditional contemporary art museum to one with a strong performative and musical focus, with Brian programming thousands of musical performances across multiple venues each year.He shares insights into curating an eclectic, diverse festival program that resonates with both local Tasmanian audiences and visitors, as well as navigating the challenges of regional programming. Brian also reflects on his lifelong musical career with the Violent Femmes, the band's evolution and fanbase over 43 years, and his parallel passion for the Japanese shakuhachi flute.In discussing the intersection of culture and social change, Brian explores the unintended consequences and complexities of artists engaging in political and social issues, as well as the need for more sustainable, locally-focused artistic practices.Key Takeaways:Brian Ritchie's serendipitous journey from the Violent Femmes to becoming a cultural leader in Tasmania, helping to catalyze the state's creative renaissance.Mona's pioneering approach to integrating music and performance into a contemporary art museum setting.Insights into curating an engaged, diverse festival audience and program in a regional context.Brian's reflections on the Violent Femmes' enduring cultural impact and his personal artistic pursuits.Considerations around the role of culture in driving social change, and the need for more holistic, sustainable artistic practices.Links:Mona – Museum of Old and New ArtMona Foma Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 23: Dr Megan Burslem: broadcaster, violist, educator and communicator leading the charge in fresh conversation about music in the contemporary landscapb
This week, Sam sits down with Dr. Megan Burslem, presenter at ABC Classic. Megan has had an incredible journey in music, from her studies as a classical violist to her current role as a leading voice in Australian classical radio. Megan speaks candidly about her path into broadcasting, the imposter syndrome she felt coming from a regional background, and the life-changing experiences she had with the Australian Youth Orchestra. She shares her passion for championing diverse voices in classical music and using her platform to push for positive change.Megan and Sam discuss the barriers that still exist in classical music, both visible and invisible. They explore ABC Classic's vital role in people's lives and Megan's humbling responsibility as a broadcaster to provide comfort, companionship and joy to her listeners.With warmth and humour, Megan reflects on memorable interviews, her viral social media presence, and the importance of relaxing our attitudes to make classical music more accessible. Her infectious enthusiasm and commitment to engaging new audiences shine through in this far-reaching conversation about classical music's past, present and future.Links:Megan Burslem on ABC Classichttps://www.abc.net.au/classic/programs/classic-breakfast/ Megan Burslem on Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/meganburslem/The Australian Youth Orchestrawww.ayo.com.auTripod’s show with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra celebrated the work of Austin [email protected]@tripodactual Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 22: Kimbali Harding: Australian Youth Orchestra CEO on the the power of youth orchestras: shaping lives through musical participation.
As the CEO of the iconic Australian Youth Orchestra (AYO), Kimbali Harding has a unique vantage point on shaping the future of classical music in Australia. In this insightful conversation, Harding shares her own remarkable journey - from a dedicated piano prodigy to a passionate music educator - and the transformative role of mentors like the legendary Richard Gill.Kimbali unpacks the multifaceted mission of the AYO, which goes far beyond just training the next generation of orchestral musicians. She reveals how the AYO is evolving to prepare young artists for the rapidly changing classical landscape, emphasizing creativity, resilience, and deeper community engagement.Kimbali also discusses the AYO's upcoming European tour as a cultural ambassador for Australia, and the challenges of advocating for sustainable funding and support for youth orchestras amidst a shifting arts sector.Through Kimbali's words, we gain a rich understanding of immersive musical experiences' profound impact on young lives - from igniting new passions to developing crucial life skills. This conversation is a must-listen for anyone invested in Australia's future of classical music and the arts.Key Takeaways:The transformative power of mentorship and music education, as exemplified by pioneers like Richard GillHow youth orchestras like the AYO are adapting to prepare 21st century musicians for successThe AYO's dual role as a training ground for orchestral virtuosos and a platform for personal growthHarding's insights on the advocacy work required to sustain and champion youth music programsDon't miss this inspiring look at the vital work being done to cultivate the next generation of musical leaders and cultural ambassadors.Links:The Australian Youth Orchestra Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 20: Joanne Kee: National Theatre of Paramatta's Executive and Creative Producer on creating theatre and leadership in the rich cultural landscape of Sydney's Western suburbs
This week's guest on Decoding Cultural Leadership is Joanne Kee, Executive and Creative Producer of the National Theatre of Parramatta, Joanne shares her fascinating journey into arts management, from her family's early love of performance to gaining invaluable experience at major institutions like the Sydney Opera House and a period in London.We delve into the vibrant arts and culture scene in Western Sydney, where the National Theatre of Parramatta stands as a beacon. It not only produces high-quality work but also provides a platform for local artists to hone their skills. The theatre's stories resonate deeply with the community, serving as a testament to the power of local arts.Joanne shares her profound insights on workplace culture in arts organizations, underlining the importance of fostering a caring environment. She also stresses the significance of leading by example to drive positive change, offering valuable lessons for leaders in any field. She highlights the National Theatre of Parramatta's unique approach of viewing each production not as an endpoint but as part of a continuum of developing people, opportunities and networks.Joanne shares exciting details on their upcoming productions and initiatives aimed at nurturing artists, bringing audiences joy, and enriching Parramatta's cultural tapestry and beyond. Her parting words emphasise the power of working together with generosity to create amazing works while lifting others.LinksThe National Theatre of Parramatta Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 21: Kim Goodwin: How do we inoculate against Zombie leadership in our sector? Tropes and traps of the leadership obsession.
This week's guest is Dr. Kim Goodwin,An academic at the University of Melbourne, her research focuses on career development, employability, and human resources in the arts. Kim shares her journey from early leadership challenges in the corporate world to shifting her focus to professional development in the arts sector, which led to her PhD research on leadership identity development in the Australian arts and cultural sector.Kim introduced the concept of "leadership reluctance" among emerging arts leaders who are doing the work of leadership but hesitate to identify as leaders. Her research found the most influential leadership development came from learning within one's own arts community rather than formal leadership programs.A key focus of our discussion is the paper "Zombie Leadership: Dead Ideas That Still Walk Among Us" which critiques pervasive notions that only special individuals can be leaders, that group success is solely attributable to the leader, and that history is a story of great leaders. Kim argues the arts can reinforce this "zombie leadership" mythology through theory, organizations, media, and cultural policy that focuses on individual leaders over collective leadership.She challenges the podcast itself to highlight not just individual leaders, but the teams and relationships involved in cultural leadership. Arts leaders must look inward at organizational development, diversity and working conditions to truly unleash the potential of arts organizations to have an impact.So please enjoy my conversation with Dr Kim Goodwin.Links:Kim Goodwin at the University of Melbournehttps://findanexpert.unimelb.edu.au/profile/833147-kim-goodwin"Zombie Leadership: Dead Ideas That Still Walk Among Us"https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/01708406221092481Kim's PhD Thesishttps://opus.lib.uts.edu.au/handle/10453/120335Next Wavehttps://nextwave.org.au/Revive: a place for every story, a story for every placehttps://www.arts.gov.au/what-we-do/new-national-cultural-policy Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 19 Julian Louis: NORPA's artistic director on leadership and reframing purpose in crisis
Julian Louis, CEO and Artistic Director of NORPA (Northern Rivers Performing Arts), shares his journey of leading a regional theatre company through major challenges, including floods and the COVID-19 pandemic. Key points from the conversation include:NORPA's unique approach to creating place-based, site-specific theatre that is deeply connected to the local community and stories of the Northern Rivers region of NSW, Australia.How Julian's background in devised theatre and improvisation has influenced NORPA's collaborative creative process and focus on generating original works.The challenges and opportunities of creating professional theatre in a regional setting, far from major cities and funding bodies. Julian discusses the importance of making theatre accessible and relevant to local audiences.NORPA's strong commitment to engaging with local Aboriginal communities and telling First Nations stories, as demonstrated by works like Flow which shared a Bundjalung story.The devastating impact of the 2022 floods which destroyed NORPA's venue and forced the company to radically rethink its operating model and purpose. Julian openly discusses the trauma and grief of this experience.NORPA's plans for the future, including developing a new creative studio space, exploring mobile outdoor theatre options, and continuing to make regionally-specific works that resonate on a national level.Julian's reflections on cultural leadership and the role of theatre in building community resilience and healing in the face of crises like climate change disasters.LinksNORPA website - norpa.org.au Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 18: Greta Bradman: Psychologist, researcher, writer, broadcaster, and performing artist on the true meaning of finding values
My guest today is Greta Bradman.Greta has made significant contributions across multiple fields. A registered psychologist, researcher, writer, broadcaster, and performing artist, Greta's diverse background is truly impressive. As an exclusive artist for Universal Music (Decca Classics), Greta released four No.1 solo albums, showcasing her incredible talent as a vocalist. You may also recognise her voice from Weekend Brunch and - more recently - Mindful Music on ABC Classic, where she shares her passion for music with listeners.As an exclusive artist for Universal Music (Decca Classics), Greta released four No.1 solo albums, showcasing her incredible talent as a vocalist. In our insightful conversation, she talks about how her mission to make a broader contribution guided her career plans to step away from her performance career after 10 years to continue her work helping individuals and organisations realise their true potential.Greta recently launched a tech start-up, Compass AI, a platform designed to help individuals and companies identify, embody, and enact their values.We talked in depth about values - how they shape and influence our lives, and how they can be used to guide organisations to become better and more authentic cultural leaders. Please enjoy this conversation with Greta Bradman.Linkshttps://www.thecompass.ai/The Arts Wellbeing Collectivehttps://artswellbeingcollective.com.au/ Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 17: Esther Anatolitis: Influential thought leader and Meanjin editor on cultural leadership
My guest today is Esther Anatolis.With an impressive career spanning various art forms and practices, including literature, publishing, broadcasting, visual arts, craft and design, museums and galleries, performing arts, and festivals, Esther has made a massive contribution to Australia’s arts and cultural landscape.Throughout her extensive career, she has held numerous leadership positions in key arts organisations. She has been the CEO of Melbourne Fringe, Craft Victoria, SYN Media, the Emerging Writers' Festival, Express Media, and Regional Arts Victoria. Additionally, she made significant contributions as the Executive Director of NAVA, the National Association for The Visual Arts. In 2023, Esther embarked on a new chapter in her career, taking on the role of editor at Meanjin, the prestigious and editorially independent literary journal published by Melbourne University Publishing.In this thought-provoking conversation, Esther shares her unique perspective on the complex issues facing cultural organisations today. Drawing from her vast experience, she explores the importance of purpose and values-driven leadership, challenging the notion of the charismatic individual leader. Esther highlights the connection between art and social change and the role of arts organisations in fostering public discourse amidst polarised politics. She also offers her powerful views on the true meaning of collaborative, values-oriented cultural leadership.So please enjoy my conversation with Esther Anatolitis.LinksMeanjinThe Griffth Review: The stories we don’t tellEsther's consultancy Test Pattern Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 16. Richard Evans: One of Australia's foremost cultural leaders on career, current issues and leading change and innovation
This week’s guest is Richard Evans AMA highly respected arts leader, Richard has had an extensive career in arts management, leading some of Australia's most prominent cultural institutions. He is currently the Managing Director of the Australian Chamber Orchestra (ACO) and President of Live Performance Australia (LPA).In this wide-ranging conversation, Richard discusses his diverse career, which includes roles as CEO of the Sydney Opera House, Executive Director of The Australian Ballet, and General Manager of Bell Shakespeare. He shares insights into his management style, the challenges of stakeholder management, and the importance of enabling creative people to do great work.Richard also delves into his time at the ACO, working alongside its visionary Artistic Director, Richard Tognetti. He discusses the unique position of the ACO within the Australian orchestral ecosystem and the balance between artistic vision and broader organizational objectives. Richard emphasizes the importance of the ACO's learning and engagement programs, as well as the development of their new home at Pier 2/3 in Walsh Bay.The interview explores Richard's thoughts on Australia's relationship with culture, the perception of arts organisations, and the industry's response to challenging issues such as the current Israel/Palestine situation. Richard offers a thoughtful perspective on the role of arts organisations in addressing social issues and the need for caution when engaging in activism outside of an organisation's core mission.Throughout the conversation, Richard shares valuable insights on navigating leadership transitions, preparing for the future, and the challenges and opportunities facing the arts sector in Australia. He also reflects on his role as President of Live Performance Australia and his efforts to advocate for greater investment and support for the industry.Richard offers valuable advice for navigating difficult conversations as a leader and dealing with setbacks in the performing arts industry. He also shares his insights on the demands of a career in arts management and the importance of making time for deeper reflection.Richard has been a supportive mentor for many aspiring arts leaders in the industry, myself included. I hope you enjoy this conversation with Richard Evans.Links:The Australian Chamber OrchestraLive Performance AustraliaThe Cafe CarlyleThe Topp TwinsConnect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 15: Greg Barns: Celebrated Lawyer, Leader and Author Talks Cultural Leadership and Social Justice
This week, we catch up with renowned barrister, spokesperson, and human rights advocate Greg Barns SC, as he shares how music has been a driving force in his life and how he sees music playing a huge role in public debate, reform and dialogue. In this discussion, we touched on some of the controversial debates taking place at the time, focusing on the voice of cultural institutions and artists in the discussions of the war in the Middle East - the role and rights of artists to articulate public positions on divisive issues. Greg talks about another area of passionate interest, prisoners’ rights - and how cultural experiences and music in jails can be powerful forces.As Julian Assange's longtime legal advisor, Greg shares how the cultural community can contribute to the quest for his release.Links:Idagio Streaming App:https://www.idagio.com/The Overland open letter: ‘Stop the genocide in Gaza’https://overland.org.au/2023/10/stop-the-genocide-in-gaza/Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 14. Bourby Webster: Perth Symphony Orchestra Founder Reflects on Her Journey and radically transforming the world through music
This week, Sam connects with Perth Symphony Orchestra founder, cultural visionary, and innovator Bourby Webster. Bourby discusses her trajectory from Oxford graduate to being part of one of the world’s most well-known classical crossover groups, Bond, to setting up a groundbreaking orchestra on the other side of the world. She shares her commitment to not taking no for an answer and continuing to knock on doors to achieve her goals. Bourby also discussed her vision for culture to come front and centre in economics and policy, the power of music to radically transform the world, and her mission since stepping away from Perth Symphony Orchestra - the organisation she founded - in 2022. Links: Bourby’s LinkedIn page:https://www.linkedin.com/in/bourbywebster/?originalSubdomain=auNorth Street Musichttps://www.northstreetmusic.com/Perth Symphony Orchestrahttps://perthsymphony.com/Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 13. Tjanara Goreng Goreng: Sacred Leadership and How We Can Learn From First Nations Cultural Leadership
Today, we are privileged to be joined by the remarkable Dr Tjanara Goreng Goreng, an accomplished author, academic, and cultural leader. Tjanara will be sharing her fascinating research into Sacred Leadership and the valuable lessons contemporary organisations and leaders can learn from indigenous cultural and leadership practices.In this episode, Tjanara offers her insightful perspective on the recent referendum for an Indigenous Voice to Parliament and discusses her experience standing as a Greens candidate in the recent national Australian federal elections. She also delves into how the values she has learned from her culture and research have profoundly influenced her approach to leadership.I first met Tjanara at the Communicating the Arts Conference in 2019, where she delivered an inspiring keynote about her research into Sacred Leadership. It was an unforgettable and thought-provoking presentation.To further explore Tjanara's ideas, I've included several links in the show notes that are worth checking out:- Tjanara's TEDx talk from 2018- A video of Tjanara speaking about her research at the Art Gallery of NSW- Her captivating memoir "A Long Way from No Go", which is available on Amazon- And her thesis "Tjukurpa Pulka The Road to Eldership: How Aboriginal Culture Creates Sacred and Visionary Leaders"This episode was researched and presented by me, Sam Cairnduff, with creative direction by the talented Niloofar Pashmforoosh.Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 12. Paul Grabowsky: Cultural Leadership Across Genres
This week, Sam is joined by one of Australia’s most distinguished artists: Paul Grabowsky, pianist, composer, arranger, and conductor. Paul has had a huge career in Australia. He became a household name as musical director of Tonight Live with Steve Vizard (where he was an inspiration to me as a young, aspiring jazz pianist in Tasmania!), was Commissioning Editor (Arts and Entertainment) for ABC Television 1995-98 and has had artistic director roles at the Queensland Music Festival and Adelaide Festival of Arts.He has written in multiple genres and worked with numerous artists. As founder of the Australian Art Orchestra, he created several commended projects and collaborations, notably Ringing the Bell Backwards and Ruby - a project he created with Archie Roach as part of their longstanding working relationship. Speaking of collaborations, Paul has recorded some stunning piano vocal duo albums where he accompanies Vince Jones, Kate Ceberano and - most recently - Paul Kelly.He talked to Sam about the various roles he has held; traversing the perspectives of an artist, a leader and an administrator, and how the principles of jazz guide his approach to leadership. He shared his views on the intersection of art, politics and social change. Links:The Australian Art Orchestrawww.aao.com.auMonash Performing Arts Centrehttps://www.monash.edu/performing-arts-centres/Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 11. QSO's Yarmila Alfonzetti: Redefining Cultural Leadership
It was great to catch up with Queensland Symphony Orchestra CEO Yarmila Alfonzetti, during the monumental Brisbane production of (not just) the Ring Cycle but also Aida (which was being performed on alternate nights). This was a mammoth undertaking for both organisations and a landmark performance event in recent history. Yarmila has held some major leadership roles in Australian arts companies, including Sydney Youth Orchestras and the State Opera of South Australia, before leading the QSO since 2022. She spoke to Sam about the state of cultural leadership in Australia, picking up from Wesley Enoch’s eponymous Platform Paper, Take Me To Your Leader (2014). She discussed legacy, purpose, role and how she has used her leadership brand to turn around organisations and lead cultural change.LinksQueensland Symphony Orchestrahttps://qso.com.au/Opera Australia / QSO: The Ring Cyclehttps://qso.com.au/events/2023/featured/the-ring-cycleTake me to your leader : the dilemma of cultural leadership / Wesley Enochhttps://catalogue.nla.gov.au/catalog/6538552Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 10: BBC Orchestras and Choirs' Simon Webb: Change and Innvovation across BBC's orchestral landscape
In today's episode, we're continuing our exploration of the fascinating world of international orchestras and the leaders who guide them. If you haven't already, I highly recommend checking out our previous episode featuring Simon Woods, President and CEO of the League of American Orchestras,In this episode we speak with Simon Webb, Head of BBC Orchestras and Choirs since 2023. Simon's role is no small feat, overseeing a portfolio of five orchestras, each with its own rich history and cultural significance.Simon's journey in music began as a cellist, working in orchestras across the UK, Portugal, Hong Kong, and Ireland. His experience as a musician undoubtedly informs his approach to leadership, providing him with a deep understanding of the inner workings of orchestras.Before assuming his current position, Simon served as Director of the BBC Philharmonic starting in 2014. His tenure in this role equipped him with invaluable experience in management and leadership within the orchestral realm. In 2020, he was elected Chair of the Association of British Orchestras, further solidifying his influence in the industry.One of the defining moments of Simon's leadership at the BBC came in 2023 when he announced the temporary closure of the BBC Singers, one of its six salaried performing groups. The decision sparked significant public outcry, prompting Simon to reconsider and ultimately reverse the move. This episode underscores Simon's commitment to honouring public expectations of the national broadcaster while navigating the complexities of institutional change.Despite these challenges, Simon remains steadfast in his vision for the BBC orchestras. He's implemented strategic changes, including new management appointments and initiatives aimed at expanding the reach of these esteemed institutions. His dedication to fostering innovation and meaningful change shines through in our conversation.Join us as we delve deeper into Simon Webb's remarkable journey and gain valuable insights into the dynamic world of international orchestras. LinksBBC Orchestras and ChoirsRadio 2's Piano RoomConnect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffPresenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightConnect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 9. League of American Orchestra's Simon Woods: Cultural Leadership and the Contemporary American Orchestra
This week Sam spoke to Simon Woods, President and CEO of the League of American Orchestras. Simon has led an ambitious change agenda for American orchestras, particularly in the areas of diversity and inclusion - an area which he is personally very passionate about. Simon talks about the League’s work with its (over) 650 member orchestras and some of the incredible programs and initiatives currently happening in orchestras. He discusses the changing face of leadership and governance and how orchestras contributed to and participated in the debate about some of the burning social issues of recent years: Black Lives Matter, the Me Too movement, and the current geopolitical conflicts in the world. Links:League of American Orchestrashttps://americanorchestras.org/Symphony https://symphony.org/about-symphony/Simon’s Medium pagehttps://simonwds.medium.com/Seattle Symphony connects with city’s homeless populationhttps://symphony.org/seattle-symphony-connects-with-citys-homeless-population/Chicago Symphony Orchestra: Notes for Peace programhttps://cso.org/performances/22-23/civic-orchestra/notes-for-peace/#:~:text=Notes%20for%20Peace%20is%20an,create%20original%20songs%20of%20tribute.The Art of Relevance, Nina Simonhttps://artofrelevance.org/Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 8. Frances Rings: Bangarra Dance Theatre’s Artistic Director and Co-CEO on new horizons, continuing conversations and starting where you stand
8. Frances Rings: Bangarra Dance Theatre’s Artistic Director and Co-CEO on new horizons, continuing conversations and starting where you stand"Choreography is a connection to the unseen, in the same way Aboriginal people see the world as part-physical, part-spiritual... when we step into the rehearsal studio, it's a sacred space."Frances RingsOur guest this week is Artistic Director and Co-CEO of Bangarra Dance Theatre, Frances Rings.Frances made her main stage choreographic debut with Bangarra with the work Rations (Walkabout, 2002) and received outstanding critical acclaim. Frances has followed this by creating or co-creating a further seven works for the company: Bush (2003, co-choreographed with Stephen Page), Unaipon (2004), X300 (2007), Artefact (2010), Terrain (2012), Sheoak (2015) and SandSong (2021, co-choreographed with Stephen Page).Frances Rings became Artistic Director in 2023, after Stephen Page stepped down from the role after 33 years. She also leads the company as co-CEO alongside Louise Ingram. Links:Bangarra Dance TheatreFirestarter: The Story Of BangarraA powerful documentary about Bangarra, made to commemorate its 30th anniversary. Frances features prominently.NAISDANAISDA Dance College is Australia's premier Indigenous training collegeConnect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 7. Claire Spencer and Ali Mirza: Cultural Transformation at the Barbican
Claire Spencer AM left her role at Arts Centre Melbourne in 2022 to become the first-ever CEO of the world-renowned Barbican Centre. Claire joined us from London along with Ali Mirza, the Barbican’s Chief People Officer, who found his natural home in the arts after experience in senior roles in other industries. The Barbican is going through a massive cultural transformation, addressing some embedded issues, and Claire and Ali generously shared their bold agenda and strategies for change. The Barbican is an institution like no other - firmly planted in London’s Square Mile and a monument to Britain’s postwar culture- but how does it engage new audiences and respond to its environment's diverse and unique makeup? Claire and Ali share their innovative approach to creating an organisation that is vibrant, inviting and vital to its community.Claire also reflects on her time at Arts Centre Melbourne, and the ongoing impact of the Arts Wellbeing Collective, a ground-breaking initiative for artists that she championed. Trigger warning: the topic of suicide is raised in this episode.Links:The Barbican Centrehttps://www.barbican.org.uk/Arts Centre Melbournehttps://www.artscentremelbourne.com.au/The Arts Wellbeing Collectivehttps://artswellbeingcollective.com.auConnect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 6. Aubrey Bergauer: How to Run it Like a Business
Aubrey Bergauer is a true changemaker in the world of performing arts management. Hailed as ‘the Steve Jobs of classical music’ (Observer) and ‘the Sheryl Sandberg of the symphony’ (LA Review of Books), Aubrey Bergauer is known for her results-driven, customer-centric, data-obsessed pursuit of changing the narrative for the performing arts. Her legendary achievements as CEO of the California Symphony included doubling the size of its audience and nearly quadrupling its donor base. In 2019, she stepped into a different role as a sought-after speaker, writer, consultant and thought leader, bringing her progressive, results-driven, customer-centric, data-obsessed pursuit of changing the narrative to performing arts organisations around the world. She has just captured some key principles, ideas and case studies that guided her approach in her first book, ‘Run It Like a Business’ (now available on Amazon). In this lively and wide-ranging conversation, Aubrey joins Sam to talk about her leadership journey and unique take on the burning challenge of bringing our organisations up to speed with contemporary society to be more connected and reach more audiences than ever before.Links:Aubrey’s new book, Run It Like a Business - available at AmazonHer podcast, ‘The Offstage Mic’ is available on major podcast platformshttps://www.aubreybergauer.com/podcastAubrey’s website: www.aubreybergauer.comConnect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 5. Wesley Enoch: Revisiting Cultural Leadership Perspectives
Our guest on this episode is a true luminary of Australia’s arts landscape, theatre director, playwright, festival director and thought leader Wesley Enoch. Wesley always has clear, captivating views on the state of cultural leadership and the relationship between the arts and society. In this conversation, Wesley gives his views on recent controversies involving the STC, talks about the effects corporatisation has had on arts organisations, and provides a valuable perspective on the intersection of cultural discourse and politics in the recent Voice referendum. He talks about other burning social issues like cultural appropriation in the arts and provides reflections on his landmark Platform Paper, Take Me To Your Leader - 10 years on from its publication. From his breakthrough in the 1990s with acclaimed productions like "The 7 Stages of Grieving," co-written with Deborah Mailman, to his tenure as the director of the Sydney Festival from 2017 to 2021, Wesley has had a significant impact on Australia’s cultural landscape. In addition to his Sydney Festival role, he was artistic director at the Queensland Theatre Company, where his visionary productions, including "The Sunshine Club," earned him the 2000 Matilda Award and the 2001 Deadly Award for Best Director.He has been represented on the national stage with productions like "The Story of the Miracles at Cookie's Table" , the original stage production of "The Sapphires," a phenomenal success that earned the 2005 Helpmann Award for Best Play and toured internationally to Korea and London, and "Black Diggers" and "Black Cockatoo," at Sydney Festival.In his influential 2014 Platform Paper, Take Me to Your Leader, Wesley spoke of being tired of the narrative that says we're not good enough, that we don't do enough for artists, and that we just need more money.According to Wesley, artists are the dream weavers, the visionaries - the ones who can shape the future and carry the creative aspirations of a nation. But he posed a crucial question – where are they?So please enjoy this conversation with Wesley Enoch.Links:Take me to your leader: the dilemma of cultural leadership / Wesley Enochhttps://catalogue.nla.gov.au/catalog/6538552Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 4. Sydney Opera House's Louise Herron: Cultural Leadership and the Opera House at 50
This week, we welcome Louise Herron AM, CEO of the Sydney Opera House, who talks about the multiple cultural leadership considerations of running the most iconic building in Australia. We were privileged to speak with Louise following the celebrations of the SOH’s 50th anniversary (she also oversaw its 40th). Louise talks about politics, stakeholder management, and the new strategic vision just launched for the opera house. She discusses her journey in arts leadership following a successful career as a lawyer, working in investment banking and as a corporate adviser. Taking us through her eye-wateringly busy schedule, Louise says how she could hardly sleep for the first year running the opera house - such was her excitement at its possibilities.Links:The Sydney Opera Househttps://www.sydneyoperahouse.com/Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 3. Conductor Benjamin Northey: Music is About Joy
Celebrated Australian conductor Benjamin Northey talks to Sam just after the 20th anniversary of his association with the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra. Ben talks about the intersection between orchestras and social change. He also shares some of the initiatives and approaches to cultural leadership in another orchestra close to his heart, the Christchurch Symphony Orchestra, where he is Chief Conductor. Ben talks about the role of orchestras and orchestral music in our society, developing and training for aspiring Australian conductors and how arts and culture has become more influential in national discussions. Ben reminds us to celebrate Australian talent and that - ultimately - music is about joy. Links:Melbourne Symphony Orchestra: https://www.mso.com.au/Christchurch Symphony Orchestra: https://cso.co.nz/Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 2. Opera Australia's Fiona Allan: Cultural Leadership and Opera in Australia
In this episode of Decoding Cultural Leadership, we meet Opera Australia CEO Fiona Allan, who talks about cultural change and transformation at one of Australia’s flagship performing arts companies. Fiona reflects on her 18-year career in the UK, where she led one of the most important cultural centres, the Birmingham Hippodrome. Fiona gives her perspective on the changing role of the arts in Australia. She discusses where cultural leaders could contribute outside the cultural sphere to areas like economic and tourism development. Fiona talks about her journey into arts leadership, how childhood glimpses of the sails of the Sydney Opera House inspired her arts leadership ambitions, her early days as a clarinettist, and how bringing a producer’s mindset to her leadership practice has been a core component in her career.Links:https://opera.org.au/Birmingham Hippodrome https://www.birminghamhippodrome.com/Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 1. Michael Lynch: Legendary Australian Arts Leader is Looking to His Next Challenge
This week’s guest is renowned arts leader Michael Lynch, AO CBE. Michael talks about his long and celebrated career, running some of the most iconic cultural institutions in Australia and overseas. Michael’s achievements and contributions to our cultural life are almost too extensive to list here. In Australia, as well as a fundamental role in the establishment of the Australia Council, Michael led the Sydney Theatre Company and was CEO of the Sydney Opera House before taking up the role of Chief Executive of London’s Southbank Centre and later CEO of Hong Kong’s West Kowloon Cultural District, where he oversaw a multi-billion dollar development. He sat on the board of the ABC, and when we spoke, he was just departing his role as chair of Circa to take on yet another international opportunity. Michael is known for his robust views on the importance of culture in Australian society and the role the arts play in social change. He talks to us about all this, as well as his next leadership adventure.Links:Southbank Centrehttps://www.southbankcentre.co.uk/West Kowloon Cultural Districthttps://www.westkowloon.hk/en/Circa https://circa.org.au/people/chair/Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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Episode 0. Introduction to Decoding Cultural Leadership
Unlock the secrets of Cultural Leadership with our preview episode. Dive into the pulse of what the podcast is all about with our preview episode. Join Sam as he talks about the inspiration behind the podcast and gives an overview of what's coming up.Please join us as we start the season by interviewing some of the most influential organizational leaders, creators, policy-makers, and thought leaders in the cultural sphere.Decoding Cultural Leadership is available now on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and wherever you listen to your podcasts.Connect with Decoding Cultural Leadership on social mediaInstagram, Threads, X/Twitter:@[email protected]@samuelcairnduffRead Sam's Substack here.Presenter and research: Sam CairnduffCreative Director: Niloofar PashmforooshPresented in association with LimelightDecoding Cultural Leadership | Culture. Society. Conversations
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Decoding Cultural Leadership is a podcast that explores the intersection between the arts, culture and society and interrogates what it means to be a cultural leader in the 21st century. In each episode, host Samuel Cairnduff talks with some of the most influential organisational leaders, creators, policy-makers and thought leaders, building an understanding of their approach to shifting the dial in a complex, constantly changing world. By talking to influential leaders whose voices resonate in the community, Decoding Cultural Leadership seeks to gain a deeper perspective on how cultural organisations see their role in the community, how they make hard decisions, and how they address the needs of multiple stakeholders. Culture and society are deeply connected. Decoding Cultural Leadership explores this complex relationship through deep conversation with our greatest cultural leaders. Join us as we decode cultural leadership.<
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