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Deep Thoughts Shallow Plots
by Erika and Katy
Katy and Erika are two chill chicks who take horror flicks way too seriously. New episodes post once a month.
Episodes
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The Craft (1996)
It's the season of the witch, so Erika and Katy simply had to watch "The Craft." They dive deep into the threefold law, the classical elements, and why white people should be real careful when invoking their ancestors. "Karma Isn't a Boomerang: Why I Don't Believe in the Threefold Law," S. Storm:...
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Jennifer's Body (2009)
Fall (of the Patriarchy) is here, and Katy and Erika are celebrating with bicon "Jennifer's Body." They dive deep into the circles of sexuality, mythological femme fatales, and the lies propogated by the boy-run media. "Both Ways," Carmen Maria Machado:...
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Get Out (2027)
Katy and Erika just can't stop yapping about Jordan Peele and, specifically, "Get Out." In their longest episode to date, they dive deep into scientific racism, everyone's favorite character Othello, and the proper method of eating cereal. Jordan Peele’s Get Out: Political Horror, ed. Dawn…
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The Exorcist (1973)
Hot Possession Summer continues apace with "The Exorcist" (1973). Katy and Erika dive deep into horse boyfriends, monstrous puberty, and who came first--Columbo or Kinderman? "Horror, Femininity, and Carrie's Monstrous Puberty," Shelley Stamp Lindsey: https://www.jstor.org/stable/20687952 "The...
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A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge (1985)
It's time for Hot Possession Summer, beginning with Freddy's Revenge! Katy and Erika dive deep into Tibetan though-forms, teen boy flirting, and possibly possessed parakeets.
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Bride of Frankenstein (1935)
FrankenSpring continues with "Bride of Frankenstein." Katy and Erika dive deep into Depression era monsters, sissification, and Goth Queen Mary Shelley. "Female Gothic: The Monster's Mother," Ellen Moers: https://knarf.english.upenn.edu/Articles/moers.html "Frankenfeminisms 6: The Bride of...
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Frankenstein (1931)
Creature Double Feature alert! Katy and Erika are watching "Frankenstein," followed by "Bride of Frankenstein" next month. For this episode, they dive deep into mad scientists, golems, and also phrenology again unfortunately. “How the Term 'Mad Scientist' Began and How It Shapes Our World,” Kate...
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Purge: Anarchy (2014)
PURGE LAW! Katy and Erika return to their favorite(?) series with "Purge: Anarchy." They dive deep into macroeconomics, the hallmarks of the Sad Dad, and if weekend Purge goes harder than weekday Purge (note: this movie takes place on a Tuesday). “Dracula Untold, Told: The Saddest Dad in the...
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Let the Right One In (2008)
It's back to Vamps, as Erika and Katy discuss "Let the Right One In." They dive deep into dark romantasy, cold-weather wear, and just why the hell those wonky little cats were even included in this otherwise emaculate film. "Horror and Romance in Films: The Perfect Marriage," Emma Cole:...
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Violent Night (2022)
Erika and Katy are coming to town--to discuss "Violent Night." They dive deep into the Grinch vs. Scrooge, Anglo-Saxons vs. Vikings, and the Epiphany Witch vs. Daddy Christmas. “The German Santa Claus – Weihnachtsmann,” German Culture:...
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Escape Room (2019)
Erika and Katy continue their locked room mystery with "Escape Room." They dive deep into cuboid conjectures, jerks of greek mythology, and the guy on everyone's mind: Karl Marx. "Cheating at the [Death] Game," Laurie O'Connel:...
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Saw (2004)
This spooky season, Erika and Katy are getting tortured by "Saw." They dive deep into the War on Terror, the River Styx, and why Jigsaw is capital L capital T Like This. “Devil’s Advocate: Saw,” Benjamin Poole: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13040042-saw “The Problem of Saw: ‘Torture Porn’…
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Carrie (1976)
Erika and Katy finally discuss Stephen King, starting with "Carrie" (1976). They dive deep into mensturation, St. Sebastian, and a bad dream that's basically also a wedding. “Gender, sexuality and representation throughout each Carrie adaptation,” Screen Queens:...
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Killer Klowns from Outer Space (1988)
Katy and Erika conclude Hot Alien Summer with "Killer Klowns from Outer Space." They dive deep into Venn diagrams, sacred buffoons, and asexual popcorn-based reproduction. “Carnivalesque in Literature and Literary Theory”…
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Nope (2022) Part 2
Erika and Katy return to their discussion of "Nope." They dive deep into ambiguous sounds, the importance of legacy, and the freak behavior of Eadweard Muybridge. "How Nope Tricks Your Ears," Thomas Flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWPFMmuagQ4&t=722s Michael Abels and His Spectacular Score...
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Nope (2022) Part 1
Erika and Katy begin a lengthy discussion of Jordan Peele's "NOPE." In this first of two parts, they dive deep into the Hebrew scriptures, poorly suppressed trauma, and how OJ's autism is basically his super power. "The Best Shots of 2022," Adam Nayman:...
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Alien (1979)
Katy and Erika kick off Hot Alien Summer with--what else?--Ridley Scott's Alien. They dive deep into Joseph Conrad's Nostromo, technology as Mother, and why this is actually a pride episode. "A Curious Case of Influence: Nostromo and Alien(s)," Ted Billy…
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The Final Girls (2015)
Erika and Katy are taking you to the movies to see the B-Horror classic: Camp Bloobath--I mean, The Final Girls. They dive deep into the hero's journey, the hallmarks of a final girl, and how it's kind of a weird choice to do a strip tease for your daughter. Happy (belated) mother's day! "Her…
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A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984)
Erika and Katy return to Wes Craven's world for "A Nightmare on Elm Street." They dive deep into the Satanic Panic, troubled sleep in Shakespeare plays, and Erika's big theory that motherhood is all a scam. "American Monsters: Tabloid Media and the Satanic Panic, 1970-2000," Sarah Hughes:...
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Scream 2 (1997)
Erika and Katy are celebrating their two year anniversary by discussing their first sequel, Scream 2. They dive deep into the rules of sequels, the fate of Cassandra, and everbody's homorepressed mommy issues. "'Scream 2': College is a Horror Sequel," Eric Han....
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They Live (1988)
Erika and Katy return to the Carpenter Cinematic Universe with 1988's "They Live." They (meaning Erika and Katy, not the titular aliens) dive deep into subliminal messaging, women's anatomy in comic books, and how Minnesota always holds it down. "John Carpenter Is Fighting With Internet Nazis…
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Krampus (2015)
Gruß vom Erika und Katy! This krampus nacht, the girlies dive deep into Krampus origin stories, the emotional release of horror/comedy, and St. Nick's cadre of bad boys. Note: We will be taking January off. See you in February! "How Does Horror Comedy Work?" V Renée:...
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Happy Death Day (2017)
Sweet birthday babies, Erika and Katy, are giving you the gift of "Happy Death Day." They dive deep into overhanded metaphors for grief, a timeline of timeloops, and Katy's one-sided war with The Lumineers.
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Night of the Living Dead (1968)
Katy and Erika are celebrating spooky season with Night of the Living Dead. They dive deep into the late 1960s, ghouls vs. zombies, and what it's like when one kid is carrying the entire group project. “Night of the Living Dead: Mere Anarchy Is Loosed,” Stuart Klawans....
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Cloverfeild (2008)
Katy and Erika close out creature feature summer with Cloverfeild. They dive deep into non-linear storytelling, the perks of found footage, and the roughly 48,000 questions they have about the monster.
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Pan's Labyrinth/El Laberinto del Fauno (2006)
Can't have a Hot Creature Summer without Doug Jones, so this month Katy and Erika turn their attention to Guillermo del Toro's El Laberinto del Fauno. They dive deep into daddy issues, Falangism, and why it's never a bad idea to be wary of fauns.
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Jaws (1975)
Join Katy and Erika in celebrating July with the original summer blockbuster: Jaws! They dive deep into the minor 2nd interval, sacrifices made at the altar of capitalism, and the no-homo way to share about your trauma. "The Shark in Jaws Did Nothing Wrong--An Ecological Video Essay," TREY the...
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Bodies Bodies Bodies (2022)
Erika and Katy kick off summer with a discussion of Bodies Bodies Bodies. They dive deep into tragic flaws, kidz these days, and just what exactly a libra moon says about you (spoilers: a lot!).
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The Descent (2005)
This month, join Katy and Erika as they delve into The Descent. They dive deep into unreality, literary foils, and whether or not women like beer.
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The Thing (1982)
This month, Katy and Erika discuss John Carpenter's cult classic The Thing. They dive deep into Cold War paranoia, the evolution of story, and what happens when you bring too much Jock Energy to a survival scenario. “What ‘The Thing’ Loses By Adding Women,” Noah Berlatsky:...
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The Hallow (2015)
It's a real St. Patty's Day miracle: Katy and Erika are discussing Irish folk-horror the Hallow. They dive deep into Irish identity, why the dog dies, and how to spot a changeling baby using this one weird trick. The Brehon Academy: https://brehonacademy.org/ "Folklore and Mythology Electronic...
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Jeepers Creepers (2001)
Katy and Erika are back with an episode about "Jeepers Creepers." They dive deep into sibling relationships and the curse of clairvoyance, all while trying desperately to bring a sense of coherence to the Creepers lore and abilities. Content warning for brief discussion of child sexual assault in...
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Black Christmas (1974)
It's Christmas time, so Katy and Erika are here to discuss the Canadian proto-slasher Black Christmas. They dive deep into second wave feminism, the dark roots of Christmas, and how maybe the real psycho killer was every single man we met along the way. "HIstorical Abortion Law Timeline: 1850 to...
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The Purge (2013)
A real gift to the world this month as leading Purge experts, Katy and Erika, take a deep dive into the first movie of the franchise. They get absolutely frantic about Purge law, Christian nationalism, and whether or not they'd want to get chatted up by a highly educated white man....
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Ju-On: The Grudge (2002)
For spooky month, Erika and Katy talk about Ju-On: The Grudge. They dive deep into the domestic sphere, the purpose of ghosts, and the Edo version of a grindhouse double feature.
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I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997)
Katy and Erika close out their summer series with "I Know What You Did Last Summer." They dive deep into psycho killers, the YA thriller genre, and why you don't cast Johnny Galecki to play the school bully.
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Dracula (1931)
It's hot Drac summer this episode as Katy and Erika discuss Universal Picture's Dracula. They dive deep into the evolution of vampire lore and Bela Lugosi's influence, all while Katy (at the time of this recording) gets way too hype for a movie that will leave Katy (at the time of this posting)...
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Midsommar (2019)
Katy and Erika keep the summer vibes going by discussing Ari Aster's Midsommar. They dive deep into white supremacist cults, the origin of the word "bear", and how joining a cult seems great until winter comes. "The Source of Horror: An Anthropological Perspective on 'Midsommar' and 'The Witch',"...
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Sleepaway Camp (1983)
This week, Katy and Erika keep the summer vibes going with their discussion of Sleepaway Camp. They dive deep into twist endings, crossdressing killers, and how camp games could drive anyone to commit murder. "The Transgender Defense of Angela Baker and Sleepaway Camp," Harmony Colangelo:...
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Death Proof (2007)
Join Katy and Erika for the second half of their grindhouse double feature with a discussion of Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof. They dive deep into American car culture, acts of voyeurism, and the struggles of buying weed. "Death Proof: Recontextualizing the Slasher Genre," Douglas Rasmussen:...
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Planet Terror (2007)
Join Erika and Katy for a discussion of Planet Terror, the first half of a grindhouse double feature. They dive deep into exploitation films, the malleability of borders, and reaching up to one's lesbian future.
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Cat People (1942)
Join Katy and Erika for a discussion of the RKO classic "Cat People." They dive deep into Siberian history, the symbolism of panthers, and why this film is basically the X-Men of the Hays Code era. "Cat People (1942): Coding Lesbianism via Otherness," Elizabeth Erwin:...
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Ready or Not (2019)
Join Erika and Katy as they discuss Ready or Not. They dive deep into Samara Weaving's guttural screams, the inherent evil of being rich, and why Tchaikovsky’s 1812 overture doesn't mean what the butler thinks it means."Ready or Not justifies its twist ending by exposing a major red flag," Emily...
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The Evil Dead (1981)
Join Katy and Erika as they discuss Sam Raimi's The Evil Dead. They dive deep into gender in horror films, zombies vs. demons, and why they are so many cabins in all these woods. CW: This episode includes a brief discussion of sexual assault. If you would rather not hear that part, you can skip...
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Cabin Fever (2002)
Join Erika and Katy as they discuss Eli Roth's Cabin Fever. They dive deep into dog symbolism, plague narratives, and if Eli Roth has ever met a human woman."The Formula of Plague Narratives," Jørgen Riber Christensen: https://vbn.aau.dk/en/publications/the-formula-of-plague-narratives
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Scream (1996)
Join Erika and Katy as they discuss 1996's Scream. They dive deep into queer subtext, the history of the slasher, and why Katy can't stop grooving to "Red Right Hand.""A Historical Approach to the Slasher Film," Sotiris Petridis:...
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The VVitch (2015)
This week, join Erika and Katy as they discuss Robert Eggers' the VVitch. They dive deep into cinematography, antisemitism, and the inherent queerness of owning a tarot deck. "The Antisemitic History of Witches," Emma Shachat: https://www.heyalma.com/the-antisemitic-history-of-witches/ "Alewives:...
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Cabin In The Woods (2012)
In the premier episode of Deep Thoughts Shallow Plots, Erika and Katy discuss the movie that started their obsession with horror (over) analysis: Cabin In the Woods. Join them as they dive deep into character archetypes, horror acting, and turn of the century comic strips.
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