Deeper Magic

Why do we give so much attention to celebrities who call themselves believers? Is celebrity faith any more real or false than our own? Also featuring a new game for 2000's music lovers.

Peter, Anna, and Lilli get a free trial of Logan's new enterprise as a life coach, and the team discusses feelings of fraudulence. From faith leaders to everyday church goers, why do we all feel like imposters, even in success?

Would you rather be smart, and inherently evil, or dumb and inherently good? Peter, Anna, Lilli & Logan discuss human nature and the historical views on how God's goodness interacts with who we are from birth.

Peter, Anna, Lilli and Logan discuss what it means to be a person of faith. What criteria makes someone a Christian, and who defines it?

We didn't want a second political episode either.Peter, Anna, Lilli, and Logan tackle the recent public fighting between the U.S. administration and Pope Leo. What role does the Pope have in the events of our world today, and how should Evangelicals look at this conflict?

The Deeper Magic crew returns for season 3. Peter, Anna, Lilli & Logan catchup on the events of the offseason including the local ICE enforcement in Minnesota and the war in Iran.How do we navigate a violent world? Is pacifism viable to just idealistic?

Peter and Anna are back with their own show, Before The Dawn! The Deeper Magic returns March 23rd, but for more content and a deeper dive into the theological issues you hear, you can listen to Before The Dawn right alongside our regularly scheduled program. Enjoy this teaser episode, and visit thedeepermagic.com for more info!

Peter, Anna, Lilli & Logan wrap season 3 with a reflection on the practices of Advent. With a busy holiday season ahead, how can we pause to make the most of our time with loved ones, and not get lost in our daily distractions?

Peter, Anna, Lilli & Logan talk a bit of sports and the modern era of news and journalism. How can believers stay connected without becoming exhausted and stressed in a never ending news cycle?

Peter, Anna, Lilli, & Logan discuss an agitated society and where a modern faith structure may have contributed towards it. Peter also gets hip with K-Pop Demon Hunters.

Peter, Anna, Lilli and Logan discuss yoga, the spiritual realm involved, and Peter's best Vinyasa pose.

Peter, Anna, Lilli & Logan discuss the ever-intertwining world of faith and politics on this election day special. They may never be friends again.

Peter, Anna, Lilli & Logan talk Catholicism, the meaning and practices of communion, and the Peter's sacrilegious spree across Europe.

Peter, Anna, Lilli and Logan discuss the idea that your life will be played before an audience in heaven. Where did the idea come from? Is it biblical, a scare tactic, or just a fun metaphor pastors use to fill a sermon?

Peter, Anna, Lilli and Logan tackle the concept of deconstruction. Why does everyone seem to be deconstructing their faith these days? Is it necessary? What spurs the look inward?

Peter, Anna, Lilli, and Logan discuss the power of a good testimony. But does a dramatic 'coming to faith' story carry more weight than a lifelong dedication to Christ?

Peter, Anna, Lilli, and Logan discuss the ways AI has changed the creative and educational landscape. Are the amazing capabilities of AI having a negative impact on the human soul?

Anna, Lilli, and Logan teach Old Man Peter about performative males. More importantly, they discuss how culture of Europe may be closer kingdom life than America in 2025.

Peter, Anna, Lilli, & Logan recap their summer breaks and dive into the implications of modern feminism from the perspective of smashing Broadway production: John Proctor is the Villain.

Closing out the season, Peter, Anna, Lilli, and Logan delve into the growing divide between ideologies, and how the church and politics have intertwined.

Through the Power of AI, Peter finally becomes a great podcast host! Join Lilli, Logan, Anna, and AI Peter in a discussion on the value of mentors, how to find them, and what value they can provide.

Peter, Anna, Lilli, and Logan unpack the views of alcohol among the faith community, the pros, the cons, and the spiritual enlightenment of the Four Loko.

Logan and Anna carry the show as Lilli recovers from illness and Peter dials in from abroad. What role does tragedy play in our culture? Have we all become worse readers since social media's rise? All this and more on the Deeper Magic!

Peter, Anna, Lilli, and Logan share their perspectives of the working world, and how a time of rest can amplify the good in life.

Peter, Anna, Lilli, and Logan continue exploring the shift back towards spirituality. Is the pull back to Christianity? What does spiritual community provide? How many centuries has Peter actually been alive? Most of these questions are answered.

New studies show that Americans are searching for spiritual links to their daily lives. Join Peter, Anna, Lilli and Logan as they diver deeper into why.

Peter, Anna, Lilli and Logan each share the worst jobs they've ever had, and discuss how different work environments handle faith interactions.

Peter learns the importance of reading the entirety of an email, and discusses how cell phones have shifted the way our minds and relationships.

Peter, Anna, Lilli and Logan tackle fashion, relationships, and the "Modest is Hottest" culture.

Peter, Anna, Lilli, and Logan discuss holding space for mystery in our daily lives. The good and bad that comes with the unknown.

A new season of Deeper Magic has new voices! Peter and Anna welcome Lilli and Logan to the table and give a look into what's coming up next. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles.Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Anna brings up a recent provocative scenario with a question about communion that a nine-year-old asked a priest. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Anna and Peter reflect on the significant decline of Biblical familiarity in Christian settings. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Peter and Anna hold a wide-ranging conversation about Kingdom life, what the Deeper Magic is, and why philosopher David Hume was a disaster. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Anna and Peter talk about the DNA if Deeper Magic and some exciting changes on the horizonMusic Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles"

Peter reflects with Anna about how much he actually knows about following Jesus. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Peter and Anna welcome Anabella into Deeper Magic, a theater enthusiast who has lived all around the world and is now faced with big questions of adulting, community, and future decisions. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Anna and Peter welcome Adam Holz to talk about parenting, Taylor Swift, and Inside Out 2 and what the church can learn from them.Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Anna takes the host chair and Peter draws on his background in practical theology to passionately defend the idea that though the attack on Trump's life is horrid, our allegiance is not to democrats or republicans….but to Jesus alone. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Peter makes a critical mistake in a recent sermon about the “angry God” and Anna leads a study on Cain and Abel. (Where did all those extra Bible people that Cain was scared of come from anyway?)Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles"

Peter makes a critical mistake in a recent sermon about the “angry God” and Anna leads a study on Cain and Abel. (Where did all those extra Bible people that Cain was scared of come from anyway?)Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles"

Anna graduated from university but now faces the great unknown of adulting and how to live a lifetime with no more benchmarks. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Peter gave a Good Friday message for the first time in his time in ministry and tries to tell God's redemptive story from Genesis to the Cross. Anna takes the host chair (for the first time) to ask him what felt like a sacred experience. The Deeper Magic team then plays the 25-minute stream of the Good Friday message. (Special thanks to Westgate church for the opportunity and the audio feed.)Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

This conversation includes some occasional strong language. Listener discretion is advised. Anna and Peter welcome Anna's university advisor, April Vinding, into Deeper Magic. Anna and April talk about faith & fiction as well as how to bear fruit in our work.Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Anna is back from an academic trip to India and she and Peter talk about an entirely different way of life and faith experienced that is quite different than the Western world. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Anna has a quick cameo as Peter welcomes pastor Luke Veum to reflect on what it was like to teach about sex in a large group church setting. CONTENT WARNING: May contain material inappropriate for those under 13. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Peter and Anna dig deeper into the beauty and pain of Ishmael and Hagar.Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Peter and Anna welcome Rebecca Rhee into Deeper Magic to go through the beauty and pain of Ishmael and Hagar.Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Peter and Anna welcome Rebecca Rhee into Deeper Magic to go through the beauty and pain of Ishmael and Hagar. Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles

Peter and Anna welcome Gary Stratton to Deeper Magic, where they talk about a range of topics including the difference between trusting in God and trusting your ideas about God.Music Credits: Auroras of Saturn by MusicLFiles. Free download: https://filmmusic.io/song/6782-auroras-of-saturnLicense (CC BY 4.0): https://filmmusic.io/standard-licenseArtist website: https://cemmusicproject.wixsite.com/musiclibraryfiles