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Designer & Designer

by Brian Fling, Joe Alterio

Designer & Designer is a podcast about design. Each episode dives into a design topic with candor and humor, exposing the rarely talked about challenges that designers face, and what it takes to create great design.

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Episodes

  1. Growth

    Mentioned Medium’s Snowflake Growth Tool (original GitHub repo) Stanford Product Design Rubric (Stanford Design Program) I, X and T shaped Designers Book: Radical Candor by Kim Scott Book: The Visual MBA (or Creative MBA — verify the exact title) Short Story: The Swimmer by John Cheever…

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  2. Prompts vs Pixels

    Mentioned V0 by Vercel that generates front-end code Builder.io for creating UI flows from language prompts UXPilot for generating UI from specs Lovable for different design styles Perplexity as a tool that bypasses SEO spam Why do AI company logos look like buttholes? Jakob's Law of Internet…

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  3. Mini Episode: Zuckerberg, AI, and the Long Game

    Mentioned Arthur C. Clarke did die in 2008. Brian has no idea what he saw now. The Tech Oligarchy Arrives Mark Zuckerberg's political shift Meta's Llama AI models versus other foundational models "Making the world a better place" from Silicon Valley TV show The world is not as bad as we think it...

  4. Big Rooms, Small Rooms

    Mentioned Oranssi Pazusu MIke Sugarman Blackgaze Context Collaspe Designing for the Pluriverse Enshittification ProSocial Media Kala, the Suburban Miner Topics Discussed How did we get to this place of totally siloed communal activity? Big Rooms and Small Rooms Where the Weird Still Is Making the...

  5. Presenting Design

    Mentioned What Was the TED Talk?​ from our super smart friend Jay Fienberg (who you should hire!) Topics Discussed Why don't designers learn how to present design? Do's and Don't for design presentations To Neg or Not to Neg? That is the question. The exhausting reality of "performing" Pull…

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  6. The Burn Book

    Burn Victims • FAANG as a validator • FAANG's lack of innovation • Armchair Logo Art Direction • Amateur hour in the design space • MAU/DAU is a broken concept • Uber is the ultimate example of enshittification • An attempt to not look at my phone •"Chimping" • Text messaging needs a reinvent •...

  7. Risk

    Mentioned Mythic Quest episode: Dark Quiet Death The pram in the hall Tim Van Damme XOXO Festival Crazy Boat! Topics Discussed The delicate balance between following established patterns and advocating for innovative design solutions How life circumstances (family obligations, debt, financial...

  8. The Future of Design with Dave Miller

    In this episode, Brian and Joe welcome back Dave Miller from Design Citizen to discuss the evolving landscape of design as a profession and what the future designer might look like. Dave shares insights from his recent LinkedIn article exploring design from 2025 through 2040, discussing how AI…

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  9. The Dunning-Kruger Effect

    The Dunning-Kruger Effect https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect The Continuity Girl https://womensfilmandtelevisionhistory.wordpress.com/2014/02/21/continuity-girl/ Joe's Latest Web Comic, The Custodian https://goodwork.is/TheCustodian/ Design is Storytelling, by Ellen…

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  10. What Will Product Design Look Like In A Year?

    "Meta’s Terrible AI Profiles Are Going Viral": https://lifehacker.com/tech/instagram-has-official-ai-accounts-and-they-are-weird AI2: https://allenai.org/ The Singularity Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/ Charles Baudelaire on Photography:...

  11. AI-ay-ay

    "Generative AI fuels creative physical product design but is no magic wand" https://www.mckinsey.com/capabilities/mckinsey-digital/our-insights/generative-ai-fuels-creative-physical-product-design-but-is-no-magic-wand "Graphic design among most at-risk jobs from AI – report"...

  12. The New Design Enlightenment

    Ep 40 Show Notes CZ is Going to Prison R/workreform The Need for Climate Optimism The Economy, Stupid The Strauss-Howe Generational Theory You’re Can’t Let Mom’s Death Be An Excuse for Getting the Ol Job Done How the Internet Makes Money by Making Us Feel Bad Library of Congress, Cartoon…

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  13. The Dark Age of UX

    LinkedIn People who talk about this topic: Hang Xu https://www.linkedin.com/in/haxuco/ Peter Merholz https://www.linkedin.com/in/petermerholz/ Manuel Lima https://www.linkedin.com/in/mslima/ Erika Hall https://www.linkedin.com/in/erikahall/ - Indeed UX Job Report...

  14. Visual Thinking

    Temple Grandin: Society Is Failing Visual Thinkers, and That Hurts Us All American schools are screening out too many of our visual and spatial thinkers. A Comparative Study of Colour Effects on Cognitive Performance in Real-World and VR Environments This research explores the influence of colour...

  15. Layoffs!

    Show Notes Workism Is Making Americans Miserable https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/02/religion-workism-making-americans-miserable/583441/ Some decent Job Boards https://www.ixda.org/jobs/ https://www.uxjobsboard.com/ https://dribbble.com/ https://www.earlystagedesignjobs.com/...

  16. Weirdos

    Mentioned in this episode: Stephen Gates Crazy Ones Podcast Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  17. A View from the C-Suite with Gina Trapani

    Brian and Joe talk to Gina Trapani, CEO of the digital product shop Postlight. Postlight has been unlocking solutions for clients for the past 10 years, and we ask Gina to let us in on the insights of a running a successful design and engineering business. We talk about moving from a Doer to a...

  18. Are The Tools Driving Us?

    Joe and Brian discuss the dispiriting trend of the current tech stack driving how products are built. What does it mean when a product is designed not for the user, customer, or output, but for ease of technical deployment? What will the future hold if that trend continues? Should try and stop...

  19. Quick Hits

    Adobe buys Figma Missing Kara Swisher content A simple way to make HTML websites Org Design for Design Orgs Why Designers Quit Why corporate America broke up with design thinking The T-Shaped Designer Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  20. Is IA Eating The World?

    Kelli Goto's Web ReDesign: https://www.powells.com/book/web-redesign-20-workflow-that-works-9780735714335 Gen Z Searches For Online Content Differently https://blog.hubspot.com/marketing/how-gen-z-searches-for-content Eli Parser's Filter Bubbles TED Talk:...

  21. Why Do You Do What You Do?

    Brian and Joe break down whether creative work is calling, or just a job? Can a creative person be just as happy keeping their creative work to their hobbies? Is making money as a creative part of what being a professional creative is? And where do blenders come in to all of this?Got something to...

  22. 'How are we doing out there?' with Dave Miller

    Find Dave at designcitizen.com Dave's Original Linkedin Post Jared Spool Tweet Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  23. Ego & Empathy

    Mentioned in this episode: Against Empathy: The Case for Rational Compassion by Paul Bloom Stop Whining About Big Government by Kara Swisher featuring Mariana Mazzucato /r/learnart & /r/drawing Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  24. The Craft of Design with Aaron Draplin

    Draplin Design Co. Pretty Much Everything by Aaron James Draplin Field Notes Pick up Draplin Design Co. merch Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  25. What is the Role of the Designer?

    Mentioned in this episode: Amanda Gorman's inaugural poem Episode 1: Design Thinking The Highly Sensitive Person Episode 21: Observation in Design Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  26. The Check-In

    Brian and Joe check-in with some designer friends and see how they’re holding up in this never-ending zoom call.Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  27. Semiotics with Josh Glenn

    Find more information about Josh Glenn and his work in semiotics at http://semiovox.com Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  28. Design Tools

    It's a Design Tools “Ball of Death” Match! Brian & Joe compare the pros and cons of common design tools like Sketch, Figma and Photoshop. They share their experiences of finding the right tool for the job and their preferred tools for getting sh*t done.Got something to say to us, good, bad or…

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  29. Iterations with Jacob Covey

    You can find more about Jacob Covey and his work at https://www.unflown.com Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  30. Black Lives Matter

    Mentioned in this episode: - Black Designers of Seattle - Institutionalized Racism: A Syllabus - Ta-Nehisi Coates on the Ezra Klein Show - So you want to talk about race by Ijeoma Oluo - White Fragility: Why it's so hard for white people to talk about racism by Robin Diangelo Additional…

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  31. Observation in Design

    Mentioned in this episode: - Joe's Original Post, Observation As A Prerequisite For Design (https://formidable.com/blog/2019/design-observation/) - Ira Glass on the Taste Gap (https://vimeo.com/85040589) - History of the Ampelmann (https://www.ampelmann.de/en/a-brand-with-a-history/) Recorded at...

  32. What does it take to create a design-led company?

    Mentioned in this episode: - Are you asking enough from your design leaders? - Design Maturity Model by InVision - Future of Design in Start-Ups - There's no guarantee your product strategy will work. Here's how to de-risk it Special thanks to Catleah Cunanan for producing this episode. Recorded…

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  33. Can We Design A Better Future

    Special thanks to Catleah Cunanan for producing this episode. Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  34. How to Talk About Race & Design with Bekah Marcum

    Connect with Bekah Marcum on LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebekahmarc/ And if you are a black designer in Seattle, be sure connect with Bekah's group https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13668366/ Special thanks to Catleah Cunanan for producing this episode. Recorded at Cloud Studios in…

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  35. Burnout

    Mentioned in this episode: - Frank Chimero's Burnout List is a great primer for this discussion - The iPad Awkwardly Turns 10 by John Gruber - Second Wave Gentrification by Charles Mudede - Designers’ job satisfaction is plummeting. But why? Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to...

  36. Design For Good

    Mentioned in the episode: - Design Gigs for Good Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  37. How Do You Get Started?

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  38. Can Anyone Be A Designer?

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  39. Data vs. Intuition

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  40. Everything is on Fire: A Guide to Product Management

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  41. Defending Your Design

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  42. Mistakes

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  43. A Designer&Designer Thanksgiving

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  44. How Deep Does Design Go?

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  45. What is Good Design?

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  46. Imposter Syndrome

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  47. What is IA, UX, and UI?

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  48. The Design Interview

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  49. Make the Web Weird Again

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

  50. Failure

    Recorded at Cloud Studios in Seattle. Got something to say to us, good, bad or ugly? You can always email us at [email protected]

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Designer & Designer is a podcast about design. Each episode dives into a design topic with candor and humor, exposing the rarely talked about challenges that designers face, and what it takes to create great design.

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