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Detection: Challenging Paradigms

Have you ever wondered why something is done the way it is, only to find out that this is "just the way it has always been done"? Sometimes it is necessary to challenge the paradigm in which we find ourselves operating to discover a more true understanding of the problem, this change of thinking is referred to as a "paradigm shift". In this podcast, we explore detection and response to define the presuppositions that describe the craft, while also engaging in long form discussion with some of the industry's leading experts to challenge the convention we find ourselves operating within.

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    Special Episode: Jared Atkinson and Justin Kohler at BHUSA 2024

    Justin Kohler joins Jared in this special episode to talk about the Hybrid Attack Paths feature update to Bloodhound Enterprise and Bloodhound CE. This is a valuable tool for defenders to understand the hygiene of their identity and access management deployment in a Windows-based enterprise. Links: https://github.com/SpecterOps/BloodHound

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    Episode 37: Steve Luke and Roman Daszczyszak

    The Summiting the Pyramid project by MITRE's Center for Threat Informed Defense (CTID) released in September 2023, allowing for a unified method of "grading" detections for efficacy. Two of the pivotal members of that project join Jared and Luke to talk about how it came to be, and how it can be used to further the detection program of any organization! Project Links: Initial Release Blog Post Summiting the Pyramid Documentation Get Involved

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    Episode 36: Chris Thompson

    Chris Thompson (@_Mayyhem on X) joins Jared and Luke on this episode of DCP! Chris has led the charge on offensive research into System Center Configuration Manager (SCCM), and shares his insight into this often overlooked aspect of the threat landscape! Resources: #sccm on the BloodHoundGang slack workspace: https://bloodhoundgang.herokuapp.com/ https://medium.com/@Mayyhem

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    Episode 35: Luke Jennings

    DCP is back! New intro, new cover, new host! With Jonny stepping away from the podcast, Luke has moved into the co-host position with Jared. On this first episode, we are joined by Luke Jennings of Push Security to talk all things SaaS. Links: https://github.com/pushsecurity/saas-attackshttps://pushsecurity.com/blog/saas-attack-techniques/https://pushsecurity.com/blog/samljacking-a-poisoned-tenant/https://pushsecurity.com/blog/nearly-invisible-attack-chain/https://pushsecurity.com/blog/slack-phishing-for-initial-access/https://pushsecurity.com/blog/phishing-slack-persistence/

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    Episode 34: Ryan Hausknecht (Again)

    In this captivating episode, we delve into the world of Azure security with Ryan Hausknecht, Senior Security Researcher at Microsoft. Learn about his groundbreaking projects, the Azure Threat Research Matrix and the AzDetectSuite, and how they assist researchers and defenders in protecting against various attack techniques. We also discuss the complexities of Azure permissions and access control, and explore the nuances of the REST API, PowerShell, Azure CLI, and the Azure Portal. Don't miss this opportunity to learn from an expert and take your Azure security skills to new heights!

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    Episode 33: Casey Smith (Part 2)

    Discover the power of canaries in cybersecurity and learn how to implement them the right way with our special guest, Casey Smith from Thinkst Canary. Casey shares his extensive background in pentesting and defending, as well as the inspiration behind his current projects. This episode is jam-packed with insights on using various security methods, understanding the limitations of InfoSec tools, and exploring telemetry.

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    Episode 32: Casey Smith (Part 1)

    Discover the power of canaries in cybersecurity and learn how to implement them the right way with our special guest, Casey Smith from Thinkst Canary. Casey shares his extensive background in pentesting and defending, as well as the inspiration behind his current projects. This episode is jam-packed with insights on using various security methods, understanding the limitations of InfoSec tools, and exploring telemetry.

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    Episode 31: Maxime Lamothe-Brassard (Part 2)

    Maxime Lamothe-Brassard, co-founder of Lima Charlie stops in to talk with Jared and Jonny, and explain how Lima Charlie identified a problem in the industry and seeks to solve it. This is the second half of a full 1h 30m interview.

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    Episode 30: Maxime Lamothe-Brassard (Part 1)

    Maxime Lamothe-Brassard, co-founder of Lima Charlie stops in to talk with Jared and Jonny, and explain how Lima Charlie identified a problem in the industry and seeks to solve it. This is the first half of a full 1h 30m interview.

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    Episode 29: Olaf Hartong (pt. 2)

    Two years and 28 episodes later, our first guest: Olaf Hartong of FalconForce rejoins Jared and Jonny in the studio. Olaf, as well as Jared, Jonny, and Luke will all be Blackhat instructors this year - and our collective opinions on Threat Hunting and Detection Engineering have evolved enough over the years to warrant further discussion. We hope you join us!

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    Episode 28: Hosts

    In our first episode of the new year, Jared, Jonny, and Luke discuss the plans for the year, the new DCP: Live project, and some of Jared's latest detection wisdom.

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    Episode 27: Roberto Rodriguez

    Roberto Rodriguez (Microsoft Security Intelligence) joins us to talk Threat Hunting and detection. Roberto is a former coworker of Jonny, Jared, and Luke - so it's bound to be a good time!

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    Episode 26: Jamie Williams (Pt. 2)

    We couldn't get enough of our conversation with Jamie Williams, so we brought him back! We re-ATT&CK the Mitre Evaluation topic and much more.   Episode Guide

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    Episode 25: Mehmet Ergene

    In Episode 25 - Mehmet (@Cyb3rMonk on Twitter) chats with Jared and Jonny about several topics, including Process Mining! Episode Guide

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    Episode 24: Jamie Williams

    Jamie Williams of MITRE stops in to chat about the ATT&CK Framework and the MITRE Evals! Episode Guide: 

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    Episode 23: Gabriel Basset

    Gabriel Basset is in the house to talk detection! Episode Guide

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    Episode 22: Nasreddine Bencherchali

    Nasreddine Bencherchali joins us all the way from Algeria to discuss the Detection Engineering process. Episode Guide

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    Episode 21: Anton Ovrutsky

    Anton stops in to talk to the DCP crew about lateral movement, and other detection topics! Episode Guide

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    Episode 20: Andy Robbins

    Andry Robbins stops by to talk with Jared and Jonny, to continue the discussion of detection vs. prevention in the infosec realm - and the accountability that comes with it. Episode Guide (featuring new episode transcripts!)

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    Episode 19: Robby Winchester

    In Episode 9, Robby Winchester of SpecterOps stops by to talk on Jared's favorite topic - Detectionomics (trademark pending). This was our second in-person episode and was a blast to make, we hope you enjoy! Episode Guide

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    Episode 18: Ryan Hausknecht

    In the first ever in-person episode of Detection: Challenging Paradigms, Ryan stops by to talk to Jared and Jonny about Azure security, abstraction, and research. Episode Guide

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    Episode 17: Steve Miller

    In Episode 7, Steve Miller stops in to talk with Jared and Jonny about a variety of detection topics! Episode Guide

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    Episode 16: Tweet Extravaganza

    In this episode, Jared and Jonny take some hot tweets from the infosec Twitterverse and talk about them. Episode Guide

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    Episode 15: Mathieu Saulnier

    In this episode, Jared and Jonny talk to Mathieu about detection and response! Episode Guide

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    Episode 14: Cedric Owens and Justin Bui

    In this episode, Jared and Jonny talk to Cedric and Justin about MacOS detection, red teaming, and more! Episode Guide

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    Episode 13: Jared, Jonathan, and Luke

    In this host-only episode, Jared and Jonny talk with Luke about some Axioms of Detection that Jared is putting together. It is a fast paced and really fun episode! Episode Guide

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    Episode 12: Anton Chuvakin

    Dr. Anton Chuvakin of the Cloud Security Podcast by Google stops by to talk all things detection with Jared and Jonny. Episode Guide

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    Episode 11: Grant Ho and Devdatta Akhawe

    In this episode, Jared and Jonny talk to Grant and Dev - creators of a research project covering machine learning and lateral movement detection. Episode Guide

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    Episode 10: Jared and Jonny

    In Episode 10, Jonny and Jared recap their favorite moments and discussions from Season 1. Episode Guide

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    Episode 9: Andy Robbins

    In Episode 9, Andy Robbins of Bloodhound joins us to talk about Prevention vs. Detection, and why prevention may not be getting the attention it deserves. Episode Guide

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    Episode 8: Matt Hand

    In Episode 8, Matt Hand is in the house to discuss weightlifting, vulnerability research, and paying knowledge forward in the security industry - and much more! Episode Guide

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    Episode 7: Thomas Kinsella

    In Episode 7, Thomas Kinsella of tines.io joins Jared and Jonny all the way from Ireland to talk about security automation. This is an episode you won't want to miss! Episode Guide

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    Episode 6: Matt Graeber

    In Episode 6, Matt Graeber stops by to talk about the offensive open source tooling debate, defensive open source releases, getting back to the fundamentals of detection engineering, and more! Episode Guide

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    Episode 5: Andrew Morris

    In Episode 5, Andrew Morris of GreyNoise.io joins us to talk about smuggling submarines, scanning the internet, threat intelligence, and more! Episode Guide

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    Episode 4: Joe Vest

    In Episode 4, we talk to Joe Vest from AWS. Joe's extensive background in both detection and red teaming provides a valuable perspective on detection engineering. Episode Guide

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    Episode 3: Chris Long

    In Episode 3, Chris Long stops by to talk about Detection Lab, potential harm to small business from open source offensive security, and how valuable third-party telemetry can be for detection. Episode Guide

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    Episode 2: Dane Stuckey

    In Episode 2, Jared and Jonny chat with Dane Stuckey, CISO of Palantir. A lot of topics are covered, ranging from the importance of open sourcing defensive technology to.....cross country skiing? Episode Guide

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    Episode 1: Olaf Hartong

    In Episode 1, Jared and Jonny chat with Olaf Hartong. Olaf is a longtime member of the security community, and recently founded his own consulting firm: FalconForce. Episode Guide

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    Episode 0: Introduction

    In this episode, Jared and Jonny introduce the podcast, detail their backgrounds, and explain the goals and vision behind the podcast. Episode Guide

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Have you ever wondered why something is done the way it is, only to find out that this is "just the way it has always been done"? Sometimes it is necessary to challenge the paradigm in which we find ourselves operating to discover a more true understanding of the problem, this change of thinking is referred to as a "paradigm shift". In this podcast, we explore detection and response to define the presuppositions that describe the craft, while also engaging in long form discussion with some of the industry's leading experts to challenge the convention we find ourselves operating within.

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