Episodes
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Is Rape a Crime?
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com This episode was named for Michelle Bowdler’s award-winning memoir, Is Rape a Crime? Omnibus content warning for this episode: We talk about the history of rape and sexual assault, with some detailed...
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The Breastfeeding vs. Formula Debate, Debunked
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com
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Q&A: Creative Process, Conspiracy Theories, Careers Under Capitalism, & the Cop in Your Head
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com Caro & Katie discuss your questions about: * Whether the “financial independence, retire early” movement is an effective way to Cordyceps-bug (visual below) capitalism for your own freedom or a gateway drug to...
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Nara Smith & the Great Tradwife Exodus
A quick heads-up: Around 1:34:00, we discuss postpartum psychosis, depression, filicide, and the Lindsay Clancy trial (no graphic descriptions). If that’s not something you’re up for today, take care and skip ahead to 1:40:00. It only felt fitting to wrap up our pre-maternity leave regularly...
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Does Hating Influencers Make You a Misogynist?
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com
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How "Abundance" Lost the Left
The Democratic Party was facing an identity crisis when Donald Trump began his second term in January 2025. Just two months later, Democratic media Thinkboiz Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson published Abundance. Their theory of the case: We could “solve our problems with supply,” and that to do so…
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How 'The Botox Psyop' Broke Our Brains in the Name of Beauty
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com
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Alex Cooper, Alix Earle, & the Business of Relatability
Alex Cooper is one of the most successful podcast hosts in the country. Alix Earle is one of the most popular TikTok stars in America. The women, who appear to be separated by a single vowel and little else, have become central to a slow-burning pop culture feud representing two distinct…
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How Reality TV Makes Us All Republicans
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com
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The "Rise" and Fall of the Girlboss
RESTOCK ALERT: Just in time for your summer vacation, the Banned Books tote is back in stock. Alt. title: Katie finally bites off more than she can chew and attempts a nuanced exploration of the Lean In, Girlboss cultural era. 13 years ago, Sheryl Sandberg published Lean In: Women, Work, and the...
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How to Give Birth in America, Pt. 2
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com
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Gen Z Women's New "Anti-Woke Voice"
NEW SWAG ALERT 🚨 The Small Government line is back & better than ever. Get yours here. Katie’s back on her metaphoric “What’s Charlie Kirk up to these days?” editorial grind—checking in with one of the hottest new Gen Z Lady Voices taking the middle-aged men of the center-right by storm. In this...
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Who's Afraid of Hasan Piker?
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com
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The Caro Episode
Order Yesteryear if you like nice things, have good taste, or don’t want Katie to show up in the middle of the night at your house with a strongly worded remonstration. What does it feel like to spend 10 years of your life pursuing an uncertain dream when the chances of breakthrough success are…
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How 'Love Story'—and the Kennedys—Fooled America
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com
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Jeffrey Epstein & the Ordinary Misogyny of "Extraordinary" Men
Some quick housekeeping to start this lovely Sunday: If you’ve already pre-ordered Caro’s debut novel Yesteryear, or wish to do so now, Knopf wants to thank you. They’re sending custom, limited edition bandanas to DL Substack subscribers — all you have to do is input proof of your order in this...
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The Myth of Centrism
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com If you pay attention to political commentary, you’ll often hear a few pieces of conventional wisdom: — America is “too polarized” — “Both sides” are “too extreme” — Or, most innocuously, that politicians…
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Usha Vance, Rama Duwaji, & the Tragedy of Heterosexuality
Little bit of a heterosexual smackdown taking place today! But first, some housekeeping: As a reminder: Caro’s debut novel, YESTERYEAR, is coming out this spring (April 7th, to be exact), and she would love to see you all at the evening launch event in NYC. One can reasonably assume there will be...
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ICE is a Public Jobs Program for Losers
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com Note: This episode was filmed on Monday, January 19 and the edit was finalized early on Saturday, January 24, before news broke about the second (known) ICE execution in Minneapolis of 37-year-old Minneapolis...
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Scott Galloway vs. Heated Rivalry: Who Will Save the Men?
Have you heard? The men of America are in the midst of an existential crisis. A battle for good, evil, and the future of humanity. Who will emerge out of the darkness to lead the masses to freedom? Enter, stage left: one Scott Galloway. Enter, stage right: two extremely hot and horny hockey...
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The Texasification of America
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com Earlier this month, the Office of the Texas Governor Greg Abbott quietly released a statement that “emphasized the importance of TPUSA Club America chapter enrollment and involvement on high school campuses...
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BONUS: Caro & Katie React to the Erika Kirk CBS Town Hall
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com Surprise! Caro & Katie react in real time to the programming we all should’ve seen coming: “CBS News Presents: A Town Hall with Erika Kirk.”
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Don't Go to Starbucks This Holiday Season. Here's Why.
Coming at you with our first ever bonus conversation for the public, in which we discuss the ongoing Starbucks Workers United strike taking place at hundreds of locations (and growing) all over the country right now. It’s also a conversation in which we offer a humble request of you this holiday...
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Is There a ‘Skinny Apocalypse’ in Hollywood?
First things first: Merch is here! Get it now before it’s gone. We’re so proud of this limited edition drop of deeply diabolical merchandise. Items will ship in mid-January, and 33% of all net profits will go to Feeding America, a non-profit nationwide network of more than 200 food banks that…
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Did Women Ruin the Workplace?
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com Feminist hysteria has replaced logic and reason in the American public discourse, or so says one Helen Andrews. Today, we dive into the logical underpinnings for this argument and conduct a close read of the...
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BONUS: Olivia Nuzzi, Trump/Mamdani, & Where Caro and Katie Disagree
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com As a reminder, this is a bonus episode, which means (say it with us now) we didn’t try that hard Thanks for everyone who showed up to our live AMA this week. We laughed, we cried, we read RFK’s “swallow” poem…
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The Katie Episode
Earlier this month, Katie made a major announcement about her brand Money with Katie: In 2026, she will buy back her intellectual property rights and equity from Morning Brew, shutter the podcast for the indefinite future, take full ownership of the weekly newsletter, and return to her roots as a...
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"Ethical Consumption" & the History of "Selling Out"
A “point, counterpoint”-style deep dive into the double-sided coin of “ethical consumption” and “ethical salesmanship” (or its alternative, “selling out”) under that little thing we call “capitalism,” sponsored by our treasured economic partners in the Saudi Royal Family. “Is There REALLY No...
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How to Give Birth in America, Pt. 1
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com
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BONUS: Taylor Swift's Rumspringa, Reviewed
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com As with all bonus conversations, this episode breaks from the regular format of this show and operates instead like an homage to how it started—sending impassioned voice memos back and forth. Enjoy. *snaps…
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Biblical Womanhood, MAGA Girlbosses, and the Useful Myth of "Tradition"
Today’s conversation is a deep dive into the alliance between the neoliberal economic consensus and the social conservative movement in the late twentieth century—as told through the lens of a right-wing podcaster telling men they shouldn’t get married unless they’re capable of financially...
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BONUS: Charlie Kirk, Part Deux
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com As promised, here’s a brief follow-up conversation on the Kirk of it all: one half news updates, and one half cultural analysis on the ongoing political fallout from Kirk’s murder.
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Charlie Kirk & the End of Debate in America
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com Charlie Kirk “practiced politics the right way.” He was “a controversial and polarizing figure, but that doesn’t matter.” His “sort of dialogue is what universities are supposed to foster.” In the wake of…
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Democrats Are Failing. What Comes After the Liberal Status Quo?
The Democratic Party’s approval rating is at a 30-year-low, and Americans rated them no better than the GOP at their ability to “manage the federal government effectively” or “bring about the changes this country needs.” A pretty damning indictment, considering the GOP is currently disassembling...
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Can the World Force Taylor Swift to Speak Now?
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com Taylor Swift recently confirmed the imminent arrival of her 12th studio album, Life of a Showgirl. Over the course of a single fateful podcast interview, a new musical era wasn’t ushered through our cultural...
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Bonus: Bari Weiss Again, Somehow
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this (bonus) conversation… Ever wondered why Bari Weiss is constantly creeping around the perimeters of the conversations we have on this podcast? Well, folks, today’s the day to understand.
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Why America Can't See Gaza
In this conversation… Who could’ve foreseen when we started this podcast nearly one year ago to discuss the Times of London Ballerina Farm profile that today we’d be publishing a two-hour episode about the most stereotypically “controversial” geopolitical “dispute” in modern history? There’s one...
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The Internet Has a Porn Problem—Just Not the One You Think
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com
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The Womanosphere Claims It's Winning Young Women—But Is It?
In this conversation… It’s the grassroots sensation sweeping the internet and, by extension, the culture—proof that conservative values are mainstream, conservative women are hot, and their rapidly proliferating attendant movement is finally overpowering the excesses of liberalism. “We aren’t...
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Sabrina Carpenter & the Politics of Pop Star Sexuality
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com When Sabrina Carpenter shared the album cover for her highly anticipated seventh studio album, Man’s Best Friend, the internet suffered an algorithmic nosebleed. An extremely high-stakes cultural debate...
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Bonus: Media's Mamdani Meltdown
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this (bonus) conversation… Reporting live from the basement where Annie Lowrey is chained to a radiator while a six-foot-tall sentient copy of Abundance holds a gun to her head, Caro & Katie review four...
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Liv Schmidt & the Sexless Allure of SkinnyTok
In this conversation… SkinnyTok is full of contradictions: You’ll hear you need to work hard to lose weight so you can be effortlessly chic; you’ll discover a world of corporeal obsession in which attaining a “hot body” is the ultimate form of pleasure. So why does it all feel so sterile? This is…
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Taking Sex Differences Seriously
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this conversation… In 2015, Caro took a politics course at the University of Virginia called “Sex Differences.” This is her story. *law and order theme music*
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The Kurious Kase of Karoline Leavitt
In this conversation… Six years and five Trump press secretaries ago, The Guardian reported that, thanks to Trump’s ceaseless tweeting, the press secretary position had become “redundant,” an anachronism from a quainter era of politics when presidents didn’t preside like mad kings over their own...
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Who Wants Kids?
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this conversation… Over the last several months, the policy agenda of the pro-natalist right has become startlingly clear. What’s much less clear, though, is how the left plans to counter such red-pilled...
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Katie & Caro Shoot the Shit: Bonus April Grab Bag
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this conversation… Katie & Caro answer questions from our paid subscriber chat of Dirty Little Liars, like: * Who would be your dream guest on Diabolical Lies (if you ever get over your narcissistic…
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The Rise & Fall of Capitalism
In this conversation… It’s the best system we’ve tried so far! It’s just human nature! It’s the force that drives innovation! …or is it? What if capitalism isn’t pushing us forward anymore, but holding us back from the future that we could have? Diabolical Lies investigates. This is a public...
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What Trans Athletes Actually Mean for Women’s Sports
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this conversation… You asked, we answered. Today we’re talking about the latest, greatest moral panic of our time: Are trans athletes ruining women’…
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MAHA Moms & the Politics of “Wellness”
In this conversation… The “MAHA Moms” insist their healthy living movement is all about “the children,” who you’ll quickly learn are being “poisoned” by all the “toxic” ingredients in our food supply or corrupted by the crooked doctors in our medical system. But which kids is this really for?…
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Hot Chicks, Wings, and the Liquidation Sale of America
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit www.diabolicalliespod.com In this conversation… What does it mean to “run the government like a business” in America today? In today’s episode, we scrutinize the fetishization of “efficiency” and the American businessman, the role this...