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Divorce Dialogues
by Katherine Miller
Divorce Dialogues helps people navigate divorce with dignity, clarity, and perspective. Through thoughtful conversations with experts and practitioners, the show explores the emotional, financial, legal, and relational realities of divorce, so listeners can make better decisions, communicate more effectively, and move forward with greater confidence. Because divorce is more than a legal transaction, it’s a deeply human transition.
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Divorce Isn’t a Weapon: Reframing Separation with Karen McNenny
Divorce is often framed as a battle, something to survive or endure. But what if it could be something you approach with intention, clarity, and respect? In this episode, Katherine Miller is joined by Karen McNenny, who not only is an advocate for Family Centered Divorce Reform, but is also an author, speaker, and the founder of The Good Divorce Academy. Together, they challenge the typical narrative of divorce and offer a fresh perspective: divorce as a tool of transformation. Through Karen's insights, explore how the mindset you bring to the divorce process can shape not just the outcome, but how you experience it. Karen shares her philosophy of a "good divorce"—one that honors both individuals, protects the family structure, and allows for a peaceful future, especially for those with children. They discuss how we can break away from adversarial thinking and instead focus on creating a positive, cooperative post-divorce life. If you’re navigating the complexities of divorce or know someone who is, this conversation provides clarity and actionable insights to approach this transition with intention and care. In this episode, you’ll learn: - How to approach divorce with intention rather than reaction; - The key difference between surviving and doing divorce well; - Why focusing on family before finances can lead to better outcomes; and - How to transform conflict into collaboration for the future of your family Highlights: (00:00) Meet Karen McNenny (02:45) What Is a Good Divorce? (07:30) Divorce as a Tool for Transformation (10:36) The Impact of Mindset on Divorce (15:11) The Importance of Communication Before the Legal Process (23:40) Preserving Family Integrity Post-Divorce (29:51) Managing Emotions and Staying Grounded During Divorce About our guest, Karen McNenny Website: https://www.karenmcnenny.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gooddivorcecoach/ Listen to the Good Divorce® Show: https://www.karenmcnenny.com/good-divorce-show/ About Divorce Dialogues and Miller Law Group Katherine’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kemiller1/ Miller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/ More on her book “The Emotionally Savvy Divorce” at: https://katherinemiller.com/book/
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Overcoming Financial Overwhelm in Divorce with Kimberly Palmer
Divorce can turn your financial world upside down, but it doesn't have to stay that way. In this episode of Divorce Dialogues, Katherine Miller is joined by Kimberly Palmer, a personal finance expert from NerdWallet and the author of “Smart Mom, Rich Mom.” Together, they dive deep into the financial challenges that come with divorce, offering practical advice to help you regain control of your finances. Kimberly offers a judgment-free approach, guiding individuals to build a sustainable, grounded financial future that supports their life and goals. She emphasizes taking small, manageable steps and aligning financial decisions with personal values, which is especially vital when dealing with the intense emotions of divorce. This empowers people to not only grasp the financial figures but also to establish a secure foundation. This conversation provides clarity, reassurance, and actionable steps to help you move forward with confidence. In this episode, you’ll learn: - Practical steps to rebuild your finances after divorce and regain control over your money; - How to shift your mindset to confidently manage finances on your own, even if you weren’t previously involved; - The importance of aligning your financial decisions with your core values for long-term stability; and - Common mistakes to avoid and how to break down financial tasks into manageable steps for clarity and confidence. Highlights: (00:00) Meet Kimberly Palmer (02:29) How divorce disrupts women’s financial plans (04:44) The impact of historical money lessons on divorce (08:05) Creating a cashflow statement for financial clarity (09:55) Taking small steps to tackle financial overwhelm (11:27) Common financial mistakes during divorce (13:23) Balancing long-term goals with short-term financial stress (17:07) Building financial confidence after being less involved (19:03) Redefining financial identity after divorce (20:19) Overcoming money shame and seeking support (22:18) Rethinking budgeting to align with your values (23:52) Stories of women successfully rebuilding financially post-divorce About our guest, Kimberly Palmer Website: https://www.nerdwallet.com/ Download the app for resources from NerdWallet: https://tinyurl.com/2u3c9fhx LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kimberlyspalmer/ Kimberly Palmer is a personal finance expert at NerdWallet. She is also the author of three books about money: "Smart Mom, Rich Mom," "The Economy of You" and “Generation Earn.” About Divorce Dialogues and Miller Law Group Katherine’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kemiller1/ Miller Law Group: https://miller-law.com/ More on her book “The Emotionally Savvy Divorce” at: https://katherinemiller.com/book/
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Challenges of Nesting: Sharing Living Space Post-Divorce - with Lisa Herrick
"Kids have large antenna on their heads that you can't see, but they're always scanning for information, and that is information that is picked up very easily." - Lisa Herrick Dr. Lisa Herrick, a renowned family therapist and collaborative divorce coach, has nearly twenty years of experience guiding families in the Washington, D.C. area through the complex transition period of separation and divorce. She emphasizes that this transition varies greatly among individuals, depending on their resilience and specific circumstances, and underscores the importance of allowing adequate time for adjustment, adaptation, and recovery. Dr. Herrick advocates for honest and respectful communication between co-parents, particularly when introducing new partners to children, to minimize confusion and build trust. Drawing from personal experience, she highlights the intricate dynamics involved in shared family activities post-divorce, such as spending holidays together, and the necessity of preparing new partners for their roles within a blended family to foster a healthy and harmonious environment. Key Takeaways: ->The period of time required for individuals and families to adjust, adapt, and recover from separation and divorce is crucial. ->Nesting during divorce involves sharing living space, household responsibilities, and potential implications for future relationships. ->It is important to go slow when introducing children to new romantic partners after divorce. Lisa Herrick emphasizes the importance of preparing new partners for interactions with children and ex-spouses in blended families. ->Lisa and Katherine emphasize the benefits of waiting for the right moment to introduce shared holidays and dinners in a blended family. Connect with Lisa Herrick: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisa-herrick-009a6128/ https://lisaherrick.com/ Connect with Katherine Miller: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kemiller1/
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Divorce Dialogues helps people navigate divorce with dignity, clarity, and perspective. Through thoughtful conversations with experts and practitioners, the show explores the emotional, financial, legal, and relational realities of divorce, so listeners can make better decisions, communicate more effectively, and move forward with greater confidence. Because divorce is more than a legal transaction, it’s a deeply human transition.
HOSTED BY
Katherine Miller
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