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Down with the Patri-Bachy

by Elizabeth Ajao and Ben Richards

We’re Ellie and Ben, and together we’re on a voyage of discovery to learn about those Western Classical musicians we don’t know so well. At the end of each episode we’ll be swiping left or right on some better and lesser known musicians and deciding whether we think they should be in our brand-spanking new canon! So come and join us as we sift through a whole host of incredible musicians and hopefully show that Classical Music is a lot more than just Caucasian men from the 18th Century.

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Episodes

  1. Episode 12: In conversation with Daniel Kidane

    Surprise again!!! It’s a very special bonus episode of Down with the Patribachy, coming to you in celebration of the 76th Aldeburgh Festival, which kicks off TODAY 🤩🎉 While Ben is sadly absent (scheduling woes), Ellie is joined by Daniel Kidane — composer, educator, and this year’s Composer in...

  2. Episode 11: Season finale

    Surprise! We’re back one more time with a fizzy little bonus episode to wrap up season three of Down with the Patribachy — and what a season it’s been. We’re dishing on some of our favourite composers, reliving the fall-off-your-seat moments (yes, that includes Ben vamping through a storm), and...

  3. Episode 10: Agathe Backer Grøndahl

    It’s the season finale (sort of — stay tuned for a bonus ep next week 👀), and we are giddy on gin and glowing with Agathe admiration. This week, we’re talking about the extraordinary Agathe Backer Grøndahl — composer, pianist, and all-round icon. Ben is now a fully signed-up Patribachy Super…

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  4. Episode 9: Muriel Herbert

    This week, we bring you an episode recorded across two continents, ten days apart, and in the middle of a storm.What could possibly go wrong? Ellie is recording from Kenya, Ben is battling Storm Darragh, and the result is perhaps our most chaotic episode yet. But don’t worry — Ben’s exquisite...

  5. Episode 8: Amy Beach

    This week, it’s finally happening... we’re talking about Amy Beach, and no one is happier about it than Ben. In fact, he might actually say she’s his favourite Patribachy composer (bold claim indeed). But, in true Down with the Patribachy fashion, it takes us an embarrassingly long time to…

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  6. Episode 7: Judith Weir

    We’re back with another week of Down with the Patribachy and this time, we’re talking about the brilliant DAME Judith Weir – the first female Master of the Queen's Music! But, as always, we take a slightly scenic route to get there. In this episode, Ellie attempts to tell Judith's story in...

  7. Episode 6: William Grant Still

    This week, we eventually get around to talking about William Grant Still – the legendary composer who blended African musical heritage with Western classical traditions to create something truly groundbreaking. But not before we take some serious detours. Expect: 🎻 A deep dive into Still’s…

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  8. Episode 5: Grace Williams

    It’s our St David’s Day special 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿 (well, the day before – but close enough 💐), and we’re celebrating by diving into the life and music of Grace Williams – the trailblazing Welsh composer who fused national identity with European modernism. From stormy seas to nursery tunes, she...

  9. Episode 4: Fanny Mendelssohn

    This week, things are a little bit chaotic, but we’re shining a spotlight on Fanny Mendelssohn – a musical genius too often overshadowed by her famous brother, Felix (even though she wrote some of his best tunes 🙄). It’s time to give Fanny her due! We’re talking about her STUNNING compositions,...

  10. Episode 3: Harry Burleigh

    This week, Ellie and Ben are getting romantic and falling in love with the music of Harry Burleigh, a man who seamlessly blended African spirituals with Western classical music. Historically, Black and white musical traditions were kept apart, but Burleigh brought them together in a marriage fit...

  11. Episode 2: Clara Schumann

    After getting over the fact that they aren't being basic by talking about composers you ✨might✨ know so well, this week, Ellie and Ben are talking about the life and legacy of Clara Schumann! 🤩 Child prodigy, virtuoso pianist and a composer chronically overshadowed by her brother (and her…

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  12. Episode 1: Errollyn Wallen

    We’re BACK, bigger and better than ever for Series 3 of Down with the Patribachy! (We promise the audio gets better the longer you listen) And who better to kick things off than the phenomenal Errollyn Wallen — composer, singer, and all-round legend. From opera houses to outer space, she has…

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  13. Episode 5: Teresa Carreño

    What would make this podcast even more chaotic? Releasing an episode with a brand new format almost a full week late, that’s what. This week, Ben’s surprising Ellie with his choice, the marvellous pianist, soprano, conductor and composer, Teresa Carreño! Credits to Clara Rodriguez for the...

  14. Episode 4: ‘Iconic People of Colour’ by Elizabeth Ajao

    This week is a special ep because Ben is interviewing Ellie all about her brand new book, ‘Iconic People of Colour’! She discusses how this whole crazy thing came about, the publishing process and even reads a little snippet about Lin Manuel Miranda. You can purchase the book by going straight to...

  15. Episode 3: Waldemar Henrique

    It's Monday and that means it's time for us to chat all about a new composer from an under-represented background, and this time we're handing over the spotlight to Portuguese-Indigenous composer, Waldemar Henrique. We're particularly excited about this episode because the fantastic people over…

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  16. Episode 2: Jessye Norman

    This week we’re throwing it all the way back to May 2021 with this unpublished episode all about soprano extraordinaire, Jessye Norman! We chat about Jessye’s life and works and what made her so phenomenal. If you’re listening on Spotify, hang on after the outro to hear the recording of ‘When the...

  17. Episode 1: A Natter with Nathan James Dearden

    Patri-Bachy Podcast is back and to kick things off we were joined by the absolutely astounding Welsh composer, Nathan James Dearden. We chat music education, the importance of collaboration and most importantly, identity and how it impacts us as musicians. Tune into BBC Radio 3's choral evensong…

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  18. WE’RE BACK

    Ellie and Ben are back with a big BANG! Tune in to hear what they’ve both been up to and what’s coming this season… Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  19. Episode 12: Привет Ben Rutt-Howard!

    In this week’s special episode, Ben and Ellie are joined by another Ben, but Bristol MA student and specialist in Soviet music. Here to talk to us all about Russian composer, Sofia Gubaidulina, we learn all about life as a female Soviet musician and how she was influenced by Dmitri Shostakovich....

  20. Episode 11: Joseph Boulogne

    In this week’s episode, Ellie and Ben chat all about Joseph Boulogne, Chevalier de Saint George, polymath, fender, dancer, musician and absolutely NOT ‘The Black Mozart’. Don’t forget to follow us on or Instagram over at @patribachypod, send us questions, voicenotes and then download, rate...

  21. Episode 10: Catching up with Matthew Swann

    🚨 SPECIAL EPISODE ALERT 🚨After a little break from the pod for some much needed focus on uni deadlines, Ellie and Ben are back with a bang for their TENTH EPISODE! In today’s very special ep, we are joined by Chief Executive of the City of London Sinfonia, the magnificent Matthew Swann. We chat...

  22. Episode 9: Bright Sheng

    This episode is one of several firsts: first recorded with Ellie and Ben in the same county, first East Asian composer and first living composer! In today’s episode, Ben tells us all about “100% American, 100% Chinese” composer, Bright Sheng. Despite having his piano taken away from him as a…

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  23. Episode 8: Ruth Gipps

    This week, Ellie and Ben have a chat all about banging British composer, Ruth Gipps. They talk 20th Century currency, Vaughan Williams and Lili Boulanger’s compositional love child and of course, sea gulls — what’s not to love? Head over to @patribachypod on Instagram to see what we recommend…

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  24. Episode 7: Moryfdd Llwyn Owen

    Dydd Gŵyl Dewi Hapus or, Happy St David’s Day! 💐 To celebrate, our wonderful resident Welsh-man runs us through the life and works of female composer, Morfydd Llwyn Owen. In her too-short life, she composed a whopping 180 pieces, and although they’re not all recorded, those that are are…

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  25. Episode 6: Frannie Millar on Madeleine Dring

    🚨 SPECIAL EPISODE ALERT 🚨 Today, Ellie and Ben have the privilege of speaking to Frannie Millar, Oxford MMus graduate and expert on spectacular British composer, Madeleine Dring. In this slightly glitchy episode, we chat all about Maddy D’s life and works, what makes her so different from other...

  26. Episode 5: Lili et Nadia Boulanger

    This week Ellie and Ben are bringing you a special episode featuring two whole musicians! Born and raised in twentieth century Paris, Lili and Nadia Boulanger are a pair of powerhouse sisters like no other: taught by Faure and influencers of an entire generation of musicians, these two changed…

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  27. Episode 4: Samuel Coleridge-Taylor

    Today, Ben’s done his reading and is ready to tell you all about our first male musician: the brilliant Black British composer, Samuel Coleridge-Taylor. We ask questions about metaphorical gatekeeping, how many sheep you could buy in 1910, and of course, whether or not we’ll be swiping left or...

  28. Episode 3: A natter with Dr. Dan Elphick

    Today, special guest musicologist Dr. Dan Elphick joins us for a chat about the canon — not the medieval kind, the musical kind. He tells us all about how the canon got formed, why it’s so tricky to change and what we can do to make it less problematic. Once you’ve tuned in, don’t forget to send…

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  29. Episode 2: Germaine Tailleferre

    Today, Ben uses his extensive knowledge of 20th Century French music — did you know he did his dissertation on Francis Poulenc? — to chat about fantastic female composer, Germaine Tailleferre. Is she another Stravinsky? A carbon copy of Ravel? Or... OR... is she a brilliant composer in her own...

  30. Episode 1: Florence Price

    In the FIRST EVER (proper) episode of the pod, Ellie and Ben explore the life and a few of the works of 20th Century African-American composer, Florence Price. Sadly, some snippets of music we were hoping to include didn’t quite make it — not only do we not understand dating apps, but we don’t...

  31. TRAILER

    Welcome to our brand new podcast! Here’s what you can expect from Ellie and Ben as they explore some of those musicians who we don’t know so well. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

We’re Ellie and Ben, and together we’re on a voyage of discovery to learn about those Western Classical musicians we don’t know so well. At the end of each episode we’ll be swiping left or right on some better and lesser known musicians and deciding whether we think they should be in our brand-spanking new canon! So come and join us as we sift through a whole host of incredible musicians and hopefully show that Classical Music is a lot more than just Caucasian men from the 18th Century.

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Elizabeth Ajao and Ben Richards

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We’re Ellie and Ben, and together we’re on a voyage of discovery to learn about those Western Classical musicians we don’t know so well. At the end of each episode we’ll be swiping left or right on some better and lesser known musicians and deciding whether we think they should be in our...

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