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Drummer Mamas
by Ciara Chinniah and Gemma Hill
Drummer Mamas is a podcast aimed at bringing drumming mothers together. Ciara Chinniah and Gemma Hill have been friends since they met studying the drums at music college. Since then they have both had children and wanted to share their experiences in the drumming world whilst also juggling everything that comes with motherhood.
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Pat Garvey: BIMM, beating burn out, and the rule of 3
Send us Fan MailPat Garvey is the head of drums and percussion at BIMM in Brighton – we asked him about the advantages of studying drums in further education and what the admission numbers are like for female and transgender drummers, plus how BIMM is supportive and encourages those applicants.Pat spoke to us frankly and honestly about the added scrutiny that female drummers should be prepared for, and how so many of our choices will affect the way that we are viewed online and in music. Pat also talks about burn out, his rule of three, and how he values family life above everything else. Pat Garvey: Instagram.com/garvoidFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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A spotlight on... perfectionism
Send us Fan MailDo we have high standards or are we restricting ourselves by trying to do things perfectly? We ask ourselves where we draw the line and how we stop interruptive negative thoughts that interfere with growth and the creative process. Has it got easier as we’ve got older? Have we found ways to deal with it? Find out as we share our experiences and battles with the feeling that we need to do things perfectly! Follow us here: Instagram.com/drummermamas Instagram.com/Ciaradrums Instagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Gavin Harrison: The perfect mix - perfectionism, stress & mindset
Send us Fan MailGavin Harrison’s technical ability and musicality within bands such as Porcupine Tree, King Crimson and The Pinapple Thief have set him apart and gained him international respect as a drum clinician. But what happens when drum events make you feel isolated and stressed?Gavin tells us why he took a break from drum shows, how he was able to re-gain confidence, and what his ideal drum clinic situation would be… Plus, that time he sampled each cymbal he’d played in a performance and re-mixed every beat to create the perfect track of it afterwards!Gavin Harrison:Instagram.com/gavinharrisonFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasInstagram.com/CiaradrumsInstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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A spotlight on…6 Years Later
Send us Fan MailGet the tissues ready! In this emotional episode, we take a trip back to our very first episode of Drummer Mamas. So much has changed… and yet, in many ways, so much hasn’t.We reflect on where we were 6 years ago, what was on our hearts then, and what’s still showing up for us now. It’s honest, nostalgic, and full of those “wow, we’ve come a long way” moments.Hope you enjoy listening.Follow us here: Instagram.com/drummermamas instagram.com/Ciaradrums instagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Dylan Redman: Red Cymbals, connections & kindness
Send us Fan MailTrigger warning: we talk about the topic of suicide in this episodeDylan Redman is a drum teacher, counsellor, cheerleader of people, and good Samaritan all rolled into one as the CEO of the Red Cymbal company. Motivated by kindness, and with a strong desire to offer support for mental health, Dylan started Red just before the pandemic hit. Discover how he is able to combine many unique experiences and qualities with this cymbal brand, which he is taking all over the world and creating communities with.Dylan Redman & Red Cymbals:Instagram.com/redcymbalsInstagram.com/drummerbloke Follow us here: Instagram.com/drummermamas instagram.com/Ciaradrums instagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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A Spotlight On...Image, Ageing & Showing Up Online
Send us Fan MailToday we’re talking about image — how we present ourselves online, the pressure to look youthful, and the limiting beliefs many of us carry about beauty and ageing… and how all of that shapes the way we show up.Follow us here: Instagram.com/drummermamas instagram.com/Ciaradrums instagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Jost Nickel: The Delayed Effect - encouraging girls to drum & Disko No.1
Send us Fan MailWe are honoured to be joined by Jost Nickel this week! Jost is one of the biggest names on the international scene and has a lot of interesting things to say on the topics of encouraging more female students to enrol at the Pop Academy in Mannheim, what he does and doesn’t prepare for with clinics, raising daughters with music, and so much more. We had several laughs about mis-pronouncing names, and Jost tested us with some German too. Catch him here before you see him on the Main Stage of the Europe Drum Show in April! Jost Nickel:Instagram: Instagram.com/jost_nickel Follow us here: Instagram.com/drummermamas instagram.com/Ciaradrums instagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Mark Mondesir: When you’re in a club no one wants to join, let music be your companion
Send us Fan MailToday we’re talking to one of the worlds most respected drummers, Mark Mondesir. He’s played with icons like John McLaughlin, Jeff Beck, and Courtney Pine — but beyond the incredible musicianship, this conversation is about something deeper. From the Maguire program to his work with Maggie’s Cancer Charity, Mark shares how music has been his constant companion — guiding him through challenge, healing, and change. He opens up about life, loss, and what it feels like to be in a club no one ever wants to join. Mark finds endless inspiration in music, and we think his story will inspire you just as much.Follow Mark:https://www.facebook.com/MarkMondesirDrummerFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamas instagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Dane Campbell: a Motörhead childhood, a band with brothers, and the future
Send us Fan MailDane Campbell knows about family life within music: his father was often away touring as the guitarist with Motörhead when Dane was growing up. Dane and his brothers now tour in a band with their dad; has his childhood affected how he balances being a musician and parent himself? Dane takes us through family band dynamics, making changes to touring to suit his family, and taking lessons himself as a busy, gigging musician if he feels ‘stuck in a rut’. Dane Campbell: Instagram.com/dane_drumsFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamas instagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Sound Advice, Friends with Sticks & the Power of Creating More Drummers — with Bob Wynne
Send us Fan MailWe’re joined by Bob Wynne — drummer, educator, and advocate for a world filled with more drummers!Bob talks about the idea behind the Evans Sound Advice Room at The UK Drum Show, his upcoming masterclass with Steve White (Feb 23rd), and how his 50/50 teaching roster is helping shape the next generation. He also shares his take on why drum shops need to wake up to the fact that women just get on and buy — and how that mindset could save the industry.We missed some names out who performed in the Sound Advice Room at the UK Drum show. The full list of those who performed is as follows:Will DalyClaus HesslerMartina BarakoskaTom HowarthDrew MichaelDexter HerculesStephen Assamoa-DuaEloy CasagrandeFollow Bob:https://www.facebook.com/bobwynnedrums https://www.instagram.com/bobsdrumschoolFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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A spotlight on… manifesting, cosmic ordering and being lucky!
Send us Fan MailThis episode comes with a ‘woo woo’ warning!We talk about all things ‘universe’: manifesting, ordering what you want, receiving it, operating on a positive wavelength, and making lists to help you achieve your goals and dreams.Parking spaces, the ideal partner, and lottery wins: listen to this episode to find outhow we get the things we ask for!Follow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Geoff Dugmore: souls, songs and sessions
Send us Fan MailSome stats about our guest today that may even be out of date by now: he hasplayed on 89 top 20 albums, 53 number ones, he has produced Debbie Harry, andplayed with the likes of Stevie Nicks, Tina Turner and Rod Stewart. Geoff Dugmoretalks with us about playing for the song, bringing a good feeling to a session, and his surprising pastime when he’s not busy with music.Geoff Dugmore:Instagram.com/geoff_dugmoreFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Ellie East: Touring with Dave Stewart, counter-acting control, and the importance of taking a break
Send us Fan MailEllie East has been Dave Stewart’s drummer of choice for the last 2 years, and her bouncy energy and positive vibes make it easy to see why she is consistently booked for tours and session work. Ellie tells us how her new outlook on finding interests outside of music and the need to take a break from work are helping her to feel calm, and how she has accepted that some parts of the music industry are simply beyond her control. Ellie East:Instagram.com/ellieeastdrumsFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Gabi King: learning fast vs living slowly – The 1975, Elton John and tattoos
Send us Fan MailGabi King joined the 1975 as their percussionist after auditioning for them by performing on the Jonathan Ross Show, which led to her learning the entire percussion set in two weeks before flying out to join them on tour in Mexico.Of course, she smashed it and has been with them ever since! Gabi tells us the importance of looking after mental health on tour, staying relaxed when working with big names, being a good hang as a session player, and something no one has ever asked her before in an interview…which is her favourite tattoo?!Gabi King:Instagram.com/gabriellemariekingFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Tom Howarth: stick tricks, content inspiration and how it nearly all ended with one word…
Send us Fan MailTom Howarth’s drum reels are witty, entertaining, full of stick tricks and favoured by the algorithm! Tom tells us how he comes up with his content, about family life supporting a child with additional needs, his new online drum school, and what word he thinks almost got him banned from Instagram…Tom Howarth:Instagram.com/tomhowarthdrumsFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasInstagram.com/CiaradrumsInstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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The Christmas Episode - The one where we finally talk about drum gear!
Send us Fan MailOur last episode before we have a week off for Christmas. We update you with if we are ready for the big day, what we're hoping to get, 2026 and our love of pie!
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Maxie Cheer: manifesting, ghostbusting & Kate Nash touring
Send us Fan MailMaxie is playing drums for music that feels like it is making a difference: touring with artists and activists such as Kate Nash, Jasmine.4.t and Isha, Maxie has had a busy 2025, full of touring, recording, and even a ghostly encounter in Hamburg…Maxie talks to us about committing to and keeping faith in what you’re doing,creating space for transgender people in music, and the positive experiences theyhave had in helping to diversify the drum industry’s artist rosters.Photo by: @judeharr8Maxie Cheer:Instagram:Instagram.com/maxieplaysdrumsFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Martina Barakoska: Moving, drumming to solve problems, & keeping a balanced approach.
Send us Fan Mail2025 has been a big year for Martina Barakoska both personally and professionally; she’s moved to a different country, learned a new language, filmed a phenomenal commercial for Thomann, hosted a masterclass at the UK Drum Show, and is busy with new music. And those are just a couple of highlights.Martina tells us what inspired her to leave her hometown of Skopje in North Macedonia to move to Berlin, and her balanced approach to dealing with the positives and negatives of social media.Martina Barakoska:Instagram.com/iamthe_mFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasInstagram.com/CiaradrumsInstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Steve White: forming family bonds through drums, supporting new music, and adjusting after injuries
Send us Fan MailHaving enjoyed huge success with Paul Weller and the Style Council from the latter part of his teenage years, Steve White went on to tour all over the world and become a hugely respected drum clinician, author and educator. As a dad to four children, and husband to a successful actress and producer, how has he fitted his music career together with family life? Steve tells us how he has adapted over the years, the importance that he puts on to supporting upcoming music talent, and how he has changed his playing style to recover from an injury that he thought had ended his career.Steve White:Instagram.com/whiteydrumsFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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A Spotlight on…new projects!
Send us Fan MailGemma and Ciara have been up to new things… Ciara is about to launch ‘Begin’, an online beginner drum course that people can do at their own pace, and Gemma has set up Swiftiedrums on social media, where people can learn the real drum parts to Taylor Swift songs with notation and drum charts to download.Talking about learning new skills, adapting, asking other people for help (even when it feels uncomfortable), and the freedom in not worrying about how people perceive us, the Drummer Mamas team are moving into new territory…Link to Begin:https://www.ciaradrums.com/online-coursesInstagram.com/swiftiedrumsFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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Sarah Hagan: inclusion, diversity, family & the drum industry
Send us Fan MailSarah Hagan worked as the Director of Artist Relations at Zildjian for several years, is on the Board of Advisors for the Percussive Arts Society, and now runs her own consulting company, so if anyone knows about the topic of diversity and inclusion, it’s her! We asked her what changes she has seen in the drum industry and what she hopes for the future of it. How can we ensure fair representation of women and minority groups at music events? Sarah shares her knowledge.Sarah Hagan:Instagram.com/sarahhagandrumsFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Stan Bicknell: Coffee, soft skills, tours & life changing decisions
Send us Fan Mail‘Leave the room better than when you entered it and make everyone feel awesome along the way’ is the mantra that Stan Bicknell lives by, and it seems to work because he landed himself a huge tour with Natasha Bedingfield this year! He is seeing success with his Mastermind Drummer platform…but he’s had to make a lot of tough choices with his family to get where he is… Enjoy finding out more in this episode!Stan Bicknell:Instagram:Instagram.com/stanbicknellFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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A Spotlight on…The UK Drum Show 2025
Send us Fan MailWe met up in Liverpool for the UK Drum Show! What were our favourite moments from the weekend? What would we do differently next time?From the Main Stage to the Education Room and everything in between, this is our rundown of the biggest drum event of the year.Follow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Ollie Winiberg: Gratitude, grief and hosting a drum show
Send us Fan MailOllie Winiberg is the sunny personality who is best known for interviewing drummers and hosting the UK and Europe Drum Shows. Ollie frankly shares his journey to where he is today with us, including his start in BBC radio, losing his dad at a young age, and the impact his grief has had on his life and parenting, as well as growing up with Jeff Beck’s unwavering support as a teenager.Ollie Winiberg:Instagram.com/olliewinibergFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasInstagram.com/CiaradrumsInstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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He’s arrived! Will Daly Part 2 – dad-hood, drum school and baby cinema dates
Send us Fan MailOur episode last week was recorded with Will Daly as he and his wife were days orhours before becoming first-time parents. This time, we speak to Will a few weeksafter the birth of this son. How did it all go?! What has been the reality for Will andhis new family as he goes back to work as a self-employed musician and drumteacher? And has becoming a dad changed his outlook on life and work?Will Daly:Instagram:Instagram.com/willdrumsdalyFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Baby incoming! Will Daly Part 1: pre-baby plans for balancing parenthood with drum teaching
Send us Fan MailAt any moment now, Will Daly and his wife are about to become first-time parents!What will being a dad mean for Will and his drum teaching school? As a self-employed musician, are there any plans or practical steps that he’s taken to cover his job in the weeks after the birth? Drummer Mamas have an unusual take on parenthood with this before-birth episode; next week we catch up with Will soon after the birth to find out how things went, and if plans changed!Catch Will Daly at the UK Drum Show on Saturday 18th October 2025 at 10.30am in the Evans Sound Advice Room for his ‘Practice Pad Party’ session!Will Daly:Instagram:Instagram.com/willdrumsdalyFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Mike Johnston - Behind the scenes of business, drums, dogs, and home life
Send us Fan MailWhat an opener to the new season!Mike Johnston is joining us to kick off our autumn 2025 episodes, and we take the chance to ask him about the family he has supporting him behind the scenes. What keeps him ticking when he’s not at a drum kit? And what will we see at his Education Room at this year’s UK Drum Show in Liverpool?This episode gives a different slant on the well-known, international drum teacher and entrepreneur; hear about the sometimes heart-wrenching volunteer work that he and his wife Amber are busy with, and how their unique partnership keeps his teaching business propelling forward into new realms.Mike Johnston:Instagram:Instagram.com/mikeslessonsFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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A spotlight on… powering up your practice with Christin Neddens
Send us Fan MailDo you ever wonder how you could get better results from your practice time? Or have you had to take a break from drums and feel overwhelmed at the idea of how to get back into practising again? We speak to Christin Neddens, author of ‘Creative Flow – the ultimate drum practice workout’ to find out her tips for enjoyable, effective practice, and what inspires her own practice routine and musical development.Christin Neddens:Instagram.com/christin.neddenshttps://www.christinneddens.de/shop.htmlFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasInstagram.com/CiaradrumsInstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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A spotlight on… all-women drum camps with Ciara Chinniah
Send us Fan MailCiara started her UK drum camps for women three years ago, and in that time her ideas and business have grown far beyond what she had originally imagined. Answering questions from Gemma, Ciara describes how the drum camps started, what they involve, what participants can expect from them, plus some ideas she has for the future!Follow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasInstagram.com/CiaradrumsInstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Mental Health Matters: Practical Tips & Insights from Teacher and Author James Sharp
Send us Fan MailWe’ve wanted to cover this topic for a while now, so we’re pleased to speak to James Sharp about mental health, ranging from anxiety and depression to performance anxiety within music.James is a Drumsense Master Tutor with his own drum school in Devon and he has written two drum books in his ‘Freedom within structure’ series. Having dealt with anxiety and depression personally, James shares his experiences on striking a balance in life as a drummer, parent and teacher.James Sharp:Instagram.com/drumtingHelp Musicians - https://www.helpmusicians.org.uk/Music Minds Matter - https://www.musicmindsmatter.org.uk/Musicians Union - https://musiciansunion.org.uk/Genetic Links to Anxiety and Depression Study - https://gladstudy.org.uk/British Association for Performing Arts Medicine - https://www.bapam.org.uk/Freedom Within Structure books - https://www.jamessharpdrums.co.uk/freedom-within-structureFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasInstagram.com/CiaradrumsInstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Baby on tour: James' Drummer Debbie Knox-Hewson shares some big news...
Send us Fan MailDebbie Knox-Hewson has spent the last decade touring with acts such as Charli XCX, Honey Blood and James. This festival season is a bit different for Debbie as she shares some VERY exciting news with us!We take this unique opportunity to ask Debbie questions about how she’s doing from day-to-day while being busy touring and planning for the future, plus her journey to motherhood and the thoughts, research and practicalities that go along with it.Debbie Knox-Hewson:Instagram.com/debbiedrumsFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasInstagram.com/CiaradrumsInstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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A Spotlight on…the written side of the drum industry
Send us Fan MailGemma answers Ciara’s questions on another side of the drum industry: drum books, publishing and music magazines. Gemma lifts the lid on her experiences as editor of Drummer Magazine, and how that has led to editing, proofreading and translating drum books by some of the most popular and influential drummers around today.Follow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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‘What you focus on will grow’ – Jo Allen, a creative career coach, helps mums become ‘unstuck’
Send us Fan MailJo began her music career as a freelance violinist and soon branched off into other areas of the industry, setting up her own laser string show and entertainment agency, which allowed her the freedom to work around her two young children.Jo has developed her career further by training as a transformational career and life coach and she specialises in helping creative mums decide on their path when they feel that their work and motherhood don’t align with each other.Get ready for an inspiring, rejuvenating chat with Jo where anything is possible! Check outher website for free resources and further advice.Jo Allen:https://joallencoaching.com/Instagram.com/joallen_coachingFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasInstagram.com/CiaradrumsInstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Work hard and be nice: Mike Dolbear on the drumming community, parenthood and mental health
Send us Fan MailMike Dolbear is at the heart of the UK drum scene as a teacher, as founder of the Young Drummer of the Year event (which he started more than 20 years ago), and with his masterclass room at the UK and European Drum Shows.As mentor to some of the biggest names in the music industry, Mike shares his wisdom on communicating with his students, the importance of highlighting mental health, and how he makes his decisions for work. This is an inspiring episode that covers family, drumming, encouraging girls to play drums, and the irregularities of working in entertainment.Trigger warning: we talk about suicide in this episodeMike Dolbear:Instagram.com/mikedolbearcomFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasInstagram.com/CiaradrumsInstagram.com/gemmadrumsInstagram.com/swiftiedrums
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Never Too Late to Drum: Dorothea Taylor’s Journey from School Marching Band to Viral Sensation
Send us Fan MailDorothea Taylor started drumming in school—and never stopped. From playing while pregnant to going viral online in her 70s, she’s become an unexpected internet sensation and a role model for drummers of all ages. In this episode Dorothea shares practical advice on staying consistent with practice, handling trolls with grace, and using her platform to uplift and educate the drumming community. A must-listen for anyone picking up the sticks later in life or simply looking to stay motivated.Follow Dorothea:https://www.instagram.com/taylor.dorothea/Follow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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A spotlight on… answering your questions
Send us Fan MailThis episode is purely based upon your questions to us, which covered a wide range of topics that include: maintaining creativitiy after becoming a mum, planning or managing finances during pregnancy as a freelance musician, diversifying your income after becoming a parent, dealing with trolls online, and much more.Thanks to those who messaged in with your fantastic questions! If you would like to ask us something for future episodes, get in touch!Follow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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Manifesting, homeschooling and keeping the faith – Cami Loops on living the life you want
Send us Fan MailCami Loops has a huge online following, a constant flow of creative ideas, drum chops to die for, and she homeschools her 6-year-old son. How does she fit it all in? Cami tells us what her day-to-day routine looks like and shares her outlook on attracting the life that you want for yourself.Cami's album "I Choose Love" can be found here:Spotifyhttps://open.spotify.com/album/2OVXrtbHGcEURW92eISQY1?si=sjuNF4qBSYmszYTqBwNEKwApple Musichttps://music.apple.com/us/album/i-choose-love/1541366730YouTubehttps://youtu.be/xu2ayOONRks?si=w5bQmg3WF4_ByQmmCami Loops:Instagram.com/cami.drum.loopsFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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A Spotlight on…parenting advice books
Send us Fan MailWhile Ciara is and always has been a self-help book fan, Gemma has a habit of buying parenting advice books and hoping their wisdom will reach her through osmosis without actually reading them.The Drummer Mamas discuss the parenting books that they have (and haven’t) read, what books provided the best advice during pregnancy, and whether we really need them or if we should just listen to and trust in our own intuition as parents.Trigger warning: Emetophobia sufferers, we talk about what we experienced during the birthing process.The books that Gemma referenced in this episode but couldn’t remember the titles of:‘Bump: how to make, grow and birth a baby’ and ‘The food of love – your formula forsuccessful breastfeeding’ both by Kate EvansFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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Band-life balance: Jamiroquai’s Derrick McKenzie on the importance of maintaining good communication with your children
Send us Fan MailDerrick McKenzie joined Jamiroquai when his eldest child was a year old, meaning that he has a lot of experience and wisdom in dealing with band life and fatherhood. Luckily for us, he shares it with us in this episode! From keeping weekends for family to making phone calls with loose change from public telephones on tour, Derrick gives us an insight into how he juggled playing in a chart-topping band with family life, and what his career has uniquely provided for his three children.Derrick McKenzie:Instagram:Instagram.com/degzy99Follow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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A spotlight on...Identity
Send us Fan MailIn this episode we talk about being a drummer, being a mum, being...you. This week, we chat about how identity shifts through life, what being a 'female drummer' means to us, and why taking a break from drumming doesn't mean losing who you are.Follow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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Fatherhood, addiction and touring: Jamie Wollam’s honest experiences of making things right
Send us Fan MailWe’re very pleased to welcome Jamie Wollam to the podcast – Jamie has beenplaying drums for Tears For Fears for the last 15 years, which is a time that has seena lot of change for him, both personally and as a parent.Jamie gives us a very frank and honest insight into dealing with alcohol addictionand the result that this has had on the relationships with his two children. He tells us how that has been for him as a busy touring drummer and how it was to tour away from family before technology made the world so well connected. Even more importantly, he tells us how his relationships to his children have evolved and what he hopes this means for the future.Jamie Wollam:Instagram:Instagram.com/jameswollamFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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Doing It Anyway: Jodi Anne Roberts on Drumming, Motherhood & Trying Hard Things
Send us Fan MailIn this episode, we sit down with Jodi Anne Roberts—drummer, mum, and former student—who shares her journey of picking up the sticks in her 20's and finding joy in the challenge. Jodi talks about juggling multiple roles, from family life to performing in local bands, and how drumming has become her space for growth, creativity, and courage. With no grand ambitions for fame, Jodi shows that fulfilment comes from simply showing up, pushing your limits, and giving it your all.Follow Jodi:https://www.instagram.com/jodianneroberts/Follow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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Giving 110% - Mindy Abovitz Monk on making her ideas become reality
Send us Fan MailIf you need a pep talk then this is it! Mindy Abovitz Monk, the founder of all-womendrum publication TomTom Magazine, tells us about how it came to fruition and thepower of putting your ideas into action.Mindy is an expert in making things happen, and her knowledge and insistence oninclusion and diversity in the music industry left us buzzing after speaking with herhere!Trigger warning: we mention losing a child after birth in this episodeFor information and support: https://www.sands.org.uk/Mindy Abovitz Monk:Instagram.com/mindyabovitzmonkFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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A spotlight on… ‘I’ve had e-f***ing-nough!’ (Netflix’s ‘Adolescence’, anti-social behaviour online & smartphone use)
Send us Fan MailThis isn’t an episode to listen to if you shy away from swearing! The Drummer Mamas give their take on the Netflix series that has got everyone talking, ’Adolescence’ (*spoiler alert*), and what it’s made us think about as parents.Anti-social behaviour online? Enough. Unwanted flirtatious behaviour on social media?We’re done with it. Sexually inappropriate comments on social media content? We’ve had e-f***ing-nough and we’re talking about it all in this episode.Trigger warning: ‘Adolescence’ contains traumatic themes and we talk about them.Follow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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Closing the circle: Gareth Grover on the family and band life divide
Send us Fan MailGareth Grover has played on some of the world’s biggest stages and festivals with Frank Carter & The Rattlesnakes, and his touring life with his previous band picked up around the same time that he became a first-time dad at the age of 24. Gareth tells us how this led to a deep divide between his work and family life, and how he was able to balance that out in later years. Offering lots of wisdom on parenting, imposter syndrome and even the topic of teens learning to drive, this episode is an honest insight into fatherhood and the music industry!Gareth Grover:Instagram:Instagram.com/garethgroverFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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A spotlight on…leaving it too late
Send us Fan MailThis episode is especially for women who don’t feel comfortable broaching the topic in person: do you worry that you’ve left it too late to have children? Are you scared about taking time away from your job to have a baby? In this highly personal episode, Ciara and Gemma talk about the pressures that women face over starting a family, as well as personal experiences with endometriosis and fertility problems. Trigger warning: we talk about infertility in this episodeFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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Groundbreaking: Collette Williams on performing during pregnancy and her waters breaking on stage with Blossoms
Send us Fan MailCollette Williams initially joined Blossoms as a drum tech and is now part of the band, providing percussion, BV’s, guitar and keys as part of their festival line up. Collette gives us a frank insight into how she and the Blossoms team planned and coordinated performances during her pregnancy, what happened when her waters unexpectedly broke on stage, and the personal importance to Collette of being seen as a performer during her pregnancy. This episode is a must for anyone who wonders how live performance, tour life, pregnancy and motherhood can work in sync with one another!Collette Williams:Instagram:Instagram.com/amberskyedrumsFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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Back 2 Basics - Hannah J Welton on Prince and motherhood
Send us Fan MailWelcome to Drummer Mamas, Hannah J Welton!Hannah was discovered by Prince at the age of just 22 years old; she wascatapulted into a whirlwind life as his drummer for 4 years before everythingdrastically changed from one moment to the next. Now a mum to 5 children, Hannahis finding her way back to drums with her new docu-lessons series ‘Back 2 Basics’and we can’t wait to hear more about it…Hannah J Welton:Back 2 Basics:https://www.hannahjwelton.com/Instagram:Instagram.com/hannahjweltonFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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Masterchef, drums and pumping on the way to a gig. Lyndsay Evans is our guest.
Send us Fan MailToday we are speaking to the one and only Lyndsay Evans! Lyndsay is a drummer,percussionist, DJ and former Masterchef contestant (more about that in theepisode…). Lyndsay runs She Plays Drums, which takes her to events all over theworld.Pandemic lockdown babies, the most successful year of her career following thebirth of her eldest child, and how she balances parenting with jet-setting gigs: thisepisode has got it all.Trigger warning: we discuss miscarriage in this episodeFor information and support: https://www.miscarriageassociation.org.uk/Lyndsay Evans:Instagram.com/sheplaysdrumsofficialFollow us here:Instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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The Catch Up Episode
Send us Fan MailIt has been five years since we recorded season 1 and two years since we recorded season 2... we thought you were owed a catch up!!!Camps, book, self identity and more...Christin Neddens Book:https://www.christinneddens.de/shop.html?p=prod_QuHHIVThRniflQFollow us here:instagram.com/drummermamasinstagram.com/Ciaradrumsinstagram.com/gemmadrums
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Drummer Mamas is a podcast aimed at bringing drumming mothers together. Ciara Chinniah and Gemma Hill have been friends since they met studying the drums at music college. Since then they have both had children and wanted to share their experiences in the drumming world whilst also juggling everything that comes with motherhood.
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Ciara Chinniah and Gemma Hill
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