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Environmentally Speaking
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Podcast host Clarice Parsons interviews Kerin Browning and Marisa Desautel, managing partners of Desautel Browning Law. They will leave you cracking up while discussing some serious topics around state / federal environmental law, utility / energy statutory and regulatory compliance, civil litigation, and municipal and regulatory zoning and permitting.
Episodes
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EP138 - Seaweed Farms Between Wind Turbines, and the NIMBY Trap
Clarice brings Marisa a hot take from Denmark. Researchers at Aarhus University are testing whether the open water between offshore wind turbines, which is now treated as a mostly unusable zone, could be used to grow seaweed. The article describes it as a reuse story. The seaweed could help…
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EP 137 - Chevron Deference, Two Years Later: How Loper Bright Is Reshaping Environmental Law (Part 1)
Hosts: Marisa Desautel and Clarice Parsons What happens when courts stop deferring to agency expertise? In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, hosts Marisa Desautel and Clarice Parsons unpack the impact of the U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Chevron deference and what it means for...
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EP 136 - Understanding Client Confidentiality in Environmental Law
In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, Marisa Desautel and Clarice Parsons explore attorney-client confidentiality and how it applies across the many types of clients encountered in environmental law practice. Marisa explains the differences between representing individuals, municipalities,...
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EP 135 - Zoning, Permitting & Property Control: What Stops a Project Before It Starts?
In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, hosts Marisa Desautel and Clarice Parsons unpack one of the most misunderstood aspects of environmental and municipal permitting: site control, property interests, and why some projects fail before they even truly begin. What started as a social media...
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EP 134 - The Chernobyl Effect: Wetlands, Microbes, and Environmental Recovery
In this week’s episode of Environmentally Speaking, Marisa and Clarice dive into the unexpected environmental recovery happening in and around the Chernobyl exclusion zone nearly 40 years after the nuclear disaster. The conversation explores recent research showing that wetlands, peatlands,...
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EP 133 - When Science Leaves the Bench: Climate Change, Courts, and Political Denial
Podcast: Environmentally Speaking Host: Marisa Desautel Guest/Co-host: Clarice Parsons In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, Marissa Desautels and Clarice Parsons unpack a recent article raising concerns about the removal of climate change content from a scientific reference manual…
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EP 132 - The Endangerment Finding, Explained
Podcast: Environmentally Speaking Host: Marisa Desautel Guest/Co-host: Clarice Parsons In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, Marisa Desautel and Clarice Parsons unpack the federal EPA’s rescission of the 2009 “endangerment finding,” a policy determination that has shaped greenhouse gas...
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EP: 131 - How Climate Policy Actually Gets Implemented in Rhode Island
In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, environmental attorney Marisa Desautel and co-host Clarice Parsons sit down with Rhode Island State Senator Alana DiMario (District 36) to discuss how environmental policy is shaped, implemented, and funded at the state level. Senator DiMario shares…
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EP: 130 - Public Access to the Rhode Island Shoreline & Evolving Coastal Law
In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, Marisa Desautel and co-host Clarice Parsons are joined by Rhode Island State Senator Alana DiMario to discuss how environmental policy is developed and carried out at the state level. Senator DiMario shares her background and explains why climate…
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EP: 129 - NEPA, Public Comment, and the Push to Fast-Track Federal Permits
In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, Marissa Desautel and co-host Clarice Parsons discuss recent federal changes to environmental policy and growing challenges to public participation under the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA). They examine lawsuits against the Bureau of Land...
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EP: 128 – Marine Spatial Planning & Offshore Wind Development
In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, environmental attorney Marisa Desautel and co-host Clarice Parsons unpack the concept of Marine Spatial Planning (MSP)—a legal and policy framework designed to organize human activities in the ocean while balancing conservation and economic growth....
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EP: 127 - Coastal Resilience & Municipal Planning in Rhode Island
In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, environmental attorney Marisa Desautel and co-host Clarice Parsons dive into how Rhode Island’s coastal municipalities are adapting to climate change and rising sea levels through updated zoning and land-use ordinances. Topics covered include: The...
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Ep: 126 - Flooded Out? Inside Rhode Island’s First Buyback Program for At-Risk Homes
This week on Environmentally Speaking, Marisa and Clarice dive into a timely and critical topic—Rhode Island's first-ever buyback program for flood-prone homes along the Pocasset River. With increased flooding due to climate change and rising sea levels, federal and local agencies are stepping in...
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EP: 125 - Act on Coasts Study
In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, environmental attorney Marisa Desautel and co-host Clarice Parsons discuss Rhode Island’s first state-funded coastal resiliency study, a result of the recently passed Act on Coasts (2024). Topics covered include: What is a resiliency study and why it...
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EP: 124 - Land Use: Politics, Property and Process
Clarice and Kerin sit down to discuss today's political climate and the way it is impacting land use in New England. Kerin discusses the question: "What happens when politics and special interests get involved in our zoning and land use process?"
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EP: 123 - Understanding the Regulator’s Perspective
In this episode of Environmentally Speaking, we dive into the crucial role of regulators and explore how businesses and individuals can build productive, trust-based relationships with them. Our guest, Bill Patenaude, brings over 34 years of experience as a regulator and trainer at the Rhode…
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EP: 122 - Environmental Review of Offshore Wind: Policy Changes and Challenges
Welcome back, listeners, to another episode of Environmentally Speaking! After a brief hiatus, we're diving right back into the pressing issues of environmental policy and legislation. In today's episode, we discuss the dramatic shifts in governmental policies, particularly focusing on the...
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EP: 121 - Solutions for Developers Facing Supply Chain Issues
Have you ever wondered how supply chain issues impact developers and what alternatives they might have? Tune into this week's episode of Environmentally Speaking with hosts Kerin and Clarice as they break down the trends, pitfalls, and strategies for navigating these challenges. Key Takeaways: -...
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EP: 120 - Ban on Single-Use Plastic Bags
Join Clarice and Marisa as they discuss the ban on single-use plastic bags in this thought-provoking episode of Environmentally Speaking. Have thoughts or experiences to share? Reach out.
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EP: 119 - Understanding EPA Policy
In this episode, Clarice and Marisa tackle the intricacies of environmental law, focusing on EPA policy documents and their implications. Discover how these documents differ from regulations and why they matter for anyone involved in environmental science, consultation, regulatory work, or legal...
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EP: 118- The Use of Art in Residential and Commercial Development
New episode alert! Today on Environmentally Speaking, we explore the fascinating intersection of art and land use and how regulations shape public art in our communities.
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EP: 117 - The Difference of Increase in Value vs. Buildable Space
In today's episode of Environmentally Speaking, we're reflecting on how recent laws are transforming housing and community spaces. New legislation unlocked development potential by allowing for smaller homes on previously unusable lots and encouraging the adaptive reuse of charming old buildings....
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EP: 116 - Huge Supreme Court decision on "Chevron Deference"
Today, our hosts Clarice and Marisa delve into the most recent ruling of “Chevron Deference” and a major reversal of environmental law that will have impacts federally – but what about locally? Learn more about what this ruling means and how it may impact legal decisions going forward.
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EP: 115 - The Sci-Fi Reality of Plastic Eating Bacteria
Today, our hosts Clarice and Marisa delve into a groundbreaking scientific development that merges the realms of environmental science and futuristic innovation. Join us as we explore the discovery of plastic-eating bacteria, an advancement that has the potential to revolutionize our approach to...
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EP: 114 - How Trees Save Your Home from Floods and Landslides
On today's episode of Environmentally Speaking, we dive into the crucial role of native trees in combating soil erosion. Join hosts Marisa and Clarice as they explore the environmental and economic benefits of keeping trees intact. From real-world examples in Australia to our own backyards,...
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Ep: 113 - How New Zoning Rules Affect Rhode Island's Housing
In this episode we will are. diving in on some significant and groundbreaking changes in Rhode Island's land use and zoning laws. We'll explore the reasons behind these legislative changes, the expected impact on affordable housing, and how the new unified development review aims to streamline…
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Ep: 112 - Understanding PFAS: The Latest Environmental Hazard on the EPA's Radar
In this episode, we delve into the critical subject of Superfund sites and a groundbreaking new announcement from the EPA concerning the ubiquitous and persistent group of substances known as PFAS. We unpack the implications of these so-called "forever chemicals" being now listed under CERCLA…
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EP: 111 - Old Buildings, New Dreams: Exploring Adaptive Reuse Opportunities
Today's episode is a treat for anyone who's ever dreamed of transforming the old into the new, as we delve into the complex and captivating world of adaptive reuse. We'll be joined by our guest Kerin Browning, bringing us insightful expertise on revitalizing vacant spaces and converting them into...
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Ep: 110 - Arsenic in the Soil: Understanding the Environmental Ramifications of Bridge Reconstruction
In this episode of "Environmentally Speaking," hosts Clarice and Marisa delve into the environmental impact of the Washington Street Bridge in Providence, Rhode Island. They tackle the issue of naturally occurring arsenic in the soil, its potential health effects, and the complexities of...
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Ep: 109 - Navigating Land Use and Zoning: Strategies for Property Development and Zoning Compliance
In this episode, host Clarice is joined by Kerin Browning to discuss the complex world of land use and planning. They delve into the complexities of zoning regulations, the impact on property development, and the importance of understanding local zoning ordinances when investing in real estate...
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Ep: 108 - Atmospheric Rivers: Unearthing the Link Between Climate Change and Extreme Weather
In this episode, Marisa and Clarice delve into the topic of atmospheric rivers, uncovering the impact of these weather phenomena on regions such as California and New England. They explore the environmental and industrial ramifications of atmospheric rivers, shedding light on their effects on…
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Ep: 107 - Environmental Due Diligence Disasters: Navigating Pitfalls and Hidden Risks for Commercial Transactions
In this week's episode of Environmentally Speaking, Marisa and Clarice delve into the world of environmental due diligence disasters, shedding light on the dire consequences of mistakes in the commercial transaction arena. As they discuss the pitfalls and hidden risks involved in purchasing and...
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Ep: 106 - Legal vs. Technical: Exploring the Roles of Environmental Experts
Welcome to Environmentally Speaking, where we tackle important decisions in the environmental world. In this episode, Marisa and Clarice delve into the difference between an environmental attorney and an environmental consultant. They discuss the roles of each professional, the need for expertise...
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Ep: 105 - Understanding the Legalities of Land Use
In this episode of Environmentally Speaking host Clarice welcomes Kerin Browning to the team and they engage in a nuanced discussion about a recent court decision concerning land use and zoning issues. The conversation delves into the legal complexities surrounding notice requirements, the…
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Ep: 104 - Tipping Towards Disaster: Revealing the Five Catastrophic Climate Tipping Points
This episode tackles the alarming topic of Earth being on the verge of catastrophic climate tipping points. Marisa, and Clarice openly share their concerns and discuss the implications of this critical issue. They explore the interconnectedness of ecosystems and the potential consequences of...
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Ep: 103 - Reclaiming Abandoned Golf Courses: A Sustainable Solution for Land Restoration
Welcome to this week's episode of Environmentally Speaking. In today's episode, hosts Marisa Desautel and Clarice dive into the topic of reclaiming abandoned, unloved, and unpopular golf courses. They discuss the dwindling number of golf course openings since 2006 and explore the efforts made by...
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Ep: 102 - The Hidden Costs of Onshore Wind Farms and the Role of Government Bailouts
Welcome to this week's episode of Environmentally Speaking, where we delve into the pressing issues surrounding renewable energy and its challenges. In this episode, our hosts Marisa and Clarice continue their discussion on the unforeseen consequences faced by wind farm projects, both offshore…
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Ep: 101 - Offshore Wind: Costly Projects, Tax Incentives, and Stakeholder Backlash
On this week's episode of Environmentally Speaking, Marisa and Clarice tackle the controversial topic of offshore wind. They dive into recent news articles highlighting the financial troubles faced by offshore wind companies, including declining stock values and expiring government subsidies. As...
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Ep: 100 - How AI Affects the Environment
Welcome to the 100th episode of Environmentally Speaking! Today our hosts Marisa and Clarice dive deep into the fascinating topic of AI and its environmental effects. As an environmental attorney, Marisa shares her insights on how AI has been discussed in her field and its potential applications....
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EP: 099 - The Hidden Threats in Real Estate Transactions: Mitigating Environmental Risks for Lenders and Buyers
Welcome to another episode of Environmentally Speaking. In today's installment, we delve into the world of environmental assessments and due diligence in commercial real estate transactions. Our guest, Mark, has over 15 years of expertise in this field and will shed light on the often overlooked...
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Ep: 098 - Beavers to the Rescue: Restoring Ecosystems and Mitigating Climate Risks
Welcome to this week's episode of Environmentally Speaking! In today's episode, our hosts Marisa and Clarice dive into a fascinating topic - beavers! Prepare to be amazed as our hosts uncover how beavers are being recruited to fight drought and wildfires. These furry engineers are proving to be...
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Ep: 097 - NEPA Modifications: Is Government Moving Faster or Sacrificing the Environment?
Welcome to this week's episode of Environmentally Speaking! In today's episode, Marisa and Clarice dive into the topic of the National Environmental Policy Act (NEPA) and the recent reforms that have taken place. They discuss the intention behind these reforms, the changes that have been made to...
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Ep: 096 - Controversy in Conservation: Non-Native Species vs. Habitat Restoration
On this week’s episode of Environmentally Speaking our hosts Marisa and Clarice dive into the topic of tree planting and the opportunity for homeowners in Rhode Island to receive free trees. They discuss the benefits of smartly planted trees, including managing storm runoff and improving air...
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Ep: 095 - Farming in the Face of Climate Change: Adapting to Unpredictable Growing Seasons
Coming up on this week's episode of Environmentally Speaking, Marisa and Clarice dive into the world of climate change and its impact on the growing seasons. They discuss how the erratic weather patterns are affecting farmers in Rhode Island and the challenges they face in adapting to these...
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Ep: 094 - Analyzing the Pros and Cons of the Tiverton Solar Project
In today's episode, we dive into a very local topic: the ongoing construction of a solar project in Tiverton, Rhode Island. Join hosts Marisa and Clarice as they discuss their thoughts, concerns, and questions surrounding this solar farm. From the size of the project to the impact on the...
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Ep: 093 - Uncertainty on the Shores: Understanding Beach Closures in Rhode Island
This week hosts Marisa and Clarice dive into the concerning state of Rhode Island's beaches. From the closure of beloved childhood camps to the presence of bacteria-contaminated shellfish, the situation in Rhode Island is dire. But what exactly is causing these closures, and why are some beaches...
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EP: 092 - The Future of Wind Energy: Exploring Floating Platforms and the Burial of Electrical Cables
Welcome to another episode of Environmentally Speaking podcast! In today's episode, Marisa and Clarice dive into the fascinating world of floating offshore wind farms. They discuss the unique design of these floating structures and how they differ from traditional wind turbine infrastructure.…
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Ep: 091 - Polarization in the Climate Movement: Clean Energy Companies vs. Traditional Environmentalists
In this episode, hosts Marisa and Clarice dive into the world of environmental decision-making and the controversies surrounding renewable energy and climate change. They start by exploring an intriguing question-and-answer session that sheds light on the debate over permitting reform and its...
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Ep: 090 - Extreme Weather and Rising Waters: Vermont's Battle with Climate Change
In today's episode, we tackle the pressing issue of flooding in Vermont and its connection to climate change. Vermont has recently experienced its rainiest season in the past century, resulting in devastating floods and an increased risk of landslides. We shed some light on the alarming fact that...
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Ep: 089 - The Impact of Legislative Changes: Streamlining Housing or Sacrificing the Environment?
On this episode of Environmentally Speaking, hosts Marisa and Clarice dive into the legislative changes happening in Rhode Island regarding the conversion of vacant commercial properties into residential units. They discuss Senate Bill 1037 Sub A, its multiple drafts, and the removal of...
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Podcast host Clarice Parsons interviews Kerin Browning and Marisa Desautel, managing partners of Desautel Browning Law. They will leave you cracking up while discussing some serious topics around state / federal environmental law, utility / energy statutory and regulatory compliance, civil litigation, and municipal and regulatory zoning and permitting.
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