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Epsilon Theory Podcast
by Ben Hunt
Epsilon Theory is an exploration of the most powerful force in our social world - narrative. See more at www.epsilontheory.com.
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The Intentional Investor #55: Craig Wilson
Craig Wilson joins Matt Zeigler on The Intentional Investor for a conversation about anxiety, ambition, identity, faith, work, and what happens when a life built on performance finally breaks. Craig traces his path from a Tennessee farm to Harvard Business School, banking, family office leadership, the redevelopment of San Antonio’s Pearl Brewery, four months without sleep, and the transformation that taught him the difference between doing and being.
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Notes on Notes: The Neurometaphysics of Ruin
In this episode of Notes on Notes, Matt Zeigler talks with Adam Butler about the writing process behind The Neurometaphysics of Ruin and how big ideas move from frustration to research to narrative. They discuss AI-assisted writing, Claude as a research partner, Ian McGilchrist’s left brain right brain framework, world-building, reductionism, legibility, and why modern society may have lost sight of what all its measurement is supposed to serve.
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Notes on Notes: The Almanac and the Ambulance
Rusty Guinn joins Matt Zeigler to discuss The Almanac and the Ambulance, AI, writing, creativity, and the productivity problem with large language models. They explore how writers can use AI as a thinking partner without losing the human judgment, metaphor, and meaning that make good writing work.
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The Intentional Investor #54: Joseph Moore
Joseph S. Moore joins The Intentional Investor to discuss his journey from working class South Carolina to historian, professor, entrepreneur, and author of How to Get Rich in American History. In this conversation, Matt Zeigler and Joseph explore the personal stories behind money, ambition, education, rejection, faith, family, risk taking, and the long path from a 2008 financial wake-up call to a national bestselling book.
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Notes on Notes: I Want It, But I Don't Like It
In this episode of Epsilon Theory Unplugged, Matt Zeigler talks with Brent Donnelly about his essay I Want It, But I Don’t Like It and the hidden costs of smartphones, Twitter, social media addiction, and attention capture. They discuss why phones can create a “dark zone” similar to gambling addiction, how boredom can be useful, and how Brent structures his writing process without letting AI take over his voice.
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Notes on Notes: Contact: AI and the Semantic Dimension
Epsilon Theory Unplugged launches with Ben Hunt and Matt Zeigler discussing why human writing matters more in an age of AI-generated content, thought leadership, and endless digital noise. Ben explains the idea behind the new series, why he is returning to direct human-to-human writing, and how his process for writing Contact: AI and the Semantic Dimension reflects a deeper commitment to craft, originality, and voice.
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The Intentional Investor #53: Taylor Schulte
Taylor Schulte joins The Intentional Investor to talk about the life experiences that shaped his path from skateboarding and punk rock to financial planning, entrepreneurship, marketing and building a business on his own terms. This conversation explores the people, setbacks and lessons that helped Taylor develop confidence, competitiveness, resilience and a lifelong drive to keep getting better at things that can never be fully mastered.
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The Intentional Investor #52: Mat Cashman
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with Mat Cashman to explore the path from classical saxophone to options trading, market making, education, and career reinvention. The conversation covers music, perfectionism, teaching, the CBOE trading floor, risk, failure, identity, and what it means to keep learning after life forces you to change direction.
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The Intentional Investor #51: Marc Rubinstein
This episode explores the career, mindset, and investing philosophy of Marc Rubinstein, tracing his journey from equity research in the 1990s through the Global Financial Crisis and into his current thinking on markets, optionality, and decision-making. Through personal stories and market insights, the conversation examines how experience, temperament, and historical awareness shape long-term success in investing and life.
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The Intentional Investor #50 :Gary Mishuris
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with Gary Mishuris to explore his journey from the Soviet Union to becoming a successful investor and founder. The conversation blends investing philosophy with deeply personal stories about resilience, integrity, and the long-term mindset required to succeed in both markets and life.
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The Intentional Investor #49: Mike Perry
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with bestselling author, humorist, and essayist Michael Perry to explore the life experiences that shaped his writing and worldview. Perry shares stories from growing up on a dairy farm in rural Wisconsin, the lessons he learned from sports and hard work, and the powerful influence of his parents’ humility and charity. The conversation moves through his unlikely path from farm kid to nurse to full-time writer, including the mentors, moments, and unexpected decisions that helped shape his career. Along the way, Perry reflects on independence, purpose, faith, and the role storytelling plays in understanding both investing and life.
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The Intentional Investor #48: Roger Mitchell
Roger Mitchell joins The Intentional Investor to share the improbable journey from a working class upbringing in Scotland to the upper tiers of global finance, music, media, and sport. Along the way, he reflects on the formative lessons that shaped him, from navigating rough public schools and working late nights in a family fish and chip shop to flying across Europe for high stakes meetings and interviewing some of the most powerful figures in sport and business. This is a conversation about usefulness versus indispensability, about how narrative and presentation shape power, and about why leaving home is often the moment everything changes.
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The Intentional Investor #47: Ted Merz
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with Ted Merz to explore how careers, ideas, and communities are shaped less by optimization and more by immersion. Drawing on stories from Ted’s early life, his time at Bloomberg, and his post corporate reinvention, the conversation weaves together lessons on curiosity, communication, and why showing up in person still matters in a digital world.
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The Intentional Investor #46: Ritavan
In this episode of Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with Ritavan to explore how a life shaped by loss, curiosity, and self-directed learning produced a distinctive way of thinking about mastery, ambition, and purpose. From a remarkable family history to an unconventional educational path, the conversation traces how early experiences with adversity, mentorship, and intellectual independence compound over time into a durable framework for growth.
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The Intentional Investor #45: Tony Greer
In this episode of Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with Tony Greer for a wide-ranging conversation about markets, risk, identity, and the experiences that shape how we operate under pressure. From growing up on Long Island in a tight-knit Italian family to trading precious metals at global banks, Tony shares the formative moments that defined his relationship with money, risk, competition, and resilience. The discussion moves fluidly between personal history and professional lessons, revealing how early adversity, intense trading environments, and deep relationships influence decision-making both in markets and in life.
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The Intentional Investor #44: Best of 2025 w/ Ben Hunt
In this special year-end episode of Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler and Ben Hunt reflect on the stories, turning points, and formative moments that shaped the most memorable conversations of 2025. Rather than market calls or forecasts, this episode focuses on identity, risk, mentorship, reinvention, and the experiences that quietly redirect a life. Through a countdown of the top ten clips from the year, the conversation explores how careers are really built, how values are formed, and why the most important lessons often come from unexpected places.
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The Intentional Investor #43: GregLarkin
Greg Larkin joins The Intentional Investor to explore the wild arc of his life: from feral 1980s–90s New York City, to punk rock basements, to microfinance in Scotland, to predicting the subprime crisis, to becoming a leading voice on innovation, courage, and community-building. This episode blends personal history with market insight, crisis leadership, creativity, and what it means to build a meaningful life and career.
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The Intentional Investor #42: Dave Nadig
Dave Nadig joins us for a wide-ranging conversation on intentional investing, creativity, career detours, near-death experiences, and building a meaningful life. From growing up as a “no-lock kid,” to working on live TV in Los Angeles, to the early days of ETFs, to a traumatic climbing accident that changed his worldview, Dave shares a remarkable story filled with lessons about ambition, humility, family, and purpose.
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The Intentional Investor #41: Pablos Holman
Pablos Holman is a legendary hacker, inventor, and investor whose career spans from rural Alaska to Blue Origin and beyond. In this episode of The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler explores how curiosity, creativity, and relentless experimentation shaped Pablos’s journey — from hacking onstage and pioneering early web development to building inventions that shoot mosquitoes with lasers and investing in deep-tech founders today. It’s a masterclass in innovation, persistence, and the mindset of people who make the impossible real.
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The Intentional Investor #40: Adam Butler
Adam Butler joins The Intentional Investor with Matt Zeigler for an honest, funny, and deeply reflective conversation that traces the origins of one of investing’s most thoughtful minds. From a Dungeons & Dragons-playing kid in Newfoundland to the CIO of Resolve Asset Management, Adam’s story is about curiosity, overconfidence, failure, reinvention, and finding purpose through markets. Along the way, he shares the lessons that shaped his worldview — and the mistakes that built his philosophy on risk, humility, and growth.
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The Intentional Investor #39: Tyrone Ross
Tyrone Ross joins The Intentional Investor with Matt Zeigler for a conversation that goes far beyond markets — a story of grit, purpose, pain, and love. From growing up in the projects of New Jersey to becoming an elite athlete and mission-driven financial leader, Tyrone shares how the people who filled the gaps in his life helped shape his identity and purpose. This episode explores how embracing pain, service, and faith can transform setbacks into gifts, and how personal history informs a life of intentional investing and impact.
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The Intentional Investor #38: Danielle Strachman
In this episode of Intentional Investor, Matt Ziegler sits down with Danielle Strachman, co-founder and general partner of 1517 Fund, former director at the Thiel Fellowship, and lifelong supporter of unconventional paths. Danielle shares her journey from a New England upbringing and music-filled childhood to starting a charter school during the financial crisis, building 1517 to back “dropouts, renegades, and sci-fi kids,” and embracing her role as a “professional fairy godmother.” Her story is one of resilience, creativity, and building communities that make a difference.
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The Intentional Investor #37: Eric Pachman
Matt Zeigler sits down with Eric Pachman to explore how purpose, curiosity, and friendship powered an unlikely path from chemical engineering and ExxonMobil to Wall Street, data storytelling, and exposing hidden costs in healthcare. Eric shares the decisions and inflection points that shaped his life—becoming a parent during Harvard Business School, burning out and rebuilding energy as an introvert, and learning to make complex ideas useful—while offering practical frameworks for better decisions, communication, and impact.
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The Intentional Investor #36: Jenny Rozelle
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with Jenny Rozelle—attorney, business owner, and host of the Legal Tea podcast—to explore her journey from small-town Indiana to running a thriving law firm with her husband. Jenny shares stories of persistence, mentorship, and building a business that doubles as a community asset. From stubbornness as a superpower to balancing cattle chores with client calls, this conversation blends humor, resilience, and hard-earned lessons about investing in both life and work.
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The Intentional Investor #35: Devin Anderson
In this episode of *The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with Devin Anderson — CEO and co-founder of Convexitas — for a wide-ranging conversation on startups, trading desks, and the lessons learned from navigating crises. From working at an internet company in high school to winding down risk at Deutsche Bank’s “bad bank,” Devin shares an unfiltered look at technology, entrepreneurship, derivatives, and risk management.
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The Intentional Investor #34: Rupert Mitchell
In this episode of *The Intentional Investor*, Matt Zeigler sits down with Rupert Mitchell—global capital markets veteran, writer, and founder of Blind Squirrel Macro—for a conversation that’s equal parts myth, markets, and meaning. From working on privatization deals in Cairo and Hong Kong’s ETF debut to reflections on career reinvention, cynicism in finance, and Norse mythology, Rupert brings a rare blend of depth, wit, and global experience. If you’ve ever wondered how a Spanish literature major ends up structuring billion-dollar deals—or how a squirrel from Norse myth can explain market dynamics—this one’s for you.
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The Intentional Investor #33: John Stoj
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with John Stoj for a wide-ranging conversation that explores career reinvention, risk-taking, and the deeper purpose behind financial decisions. From an unexpected Wall Street entry via a summer internship, to launching a sushi business, to ultimately rethinking how investment advice should be delivered, John shares a journey filled with humility, humor, and hard-earned lessons.
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The Intentional Investor #32: Bryan Moore
Bryan Moore, host of The Active Advisor Podcast and veteran ETF trader, joins us to share his remarkable journey through trading pits, ETF desks, market crashes, and more — including putting on a trade for the Vatican. In this conversation, Bryan reveals how embracing discomfort, risk, and uncertainty has been the key to his success in markets and life. From the trading floor to intentional investing, you’ll learn how to rethink risk, growth, and your investing mindset.
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The Intentional Investor #31: Andrew Mack
From bagpipes to bouncing to betting markets, Andrew Mack’s journey to becoming a successful trader and sports bettor is anything but conventional. In this deeply personal and wide-ranging conversation, Andrew opens up about the detours, doubts, and decisions that shaped his unlikely path from rural Canada to algorithmic trading. Along the way, he shares what working in oil fields, selling used cars, and studying sociology taught him about risk, discipline, and finding conviction in uncertainty. This is a story about reinvention, self-reliance, and the grit it takes to build your own edge from scratch.
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The Intentional Investor #30: Andrew Cohen
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with Andrew Cohen, a former market maker at Bernie Madoff’s firm whose life took a dramatic turn when the largest Ponzi scheme in history unraveled. But this isn’t just a story about scandal—it's about resilience, reinvention, and redefining success on your own terms.
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The Intentional Investor #29: Kris Abdelmessih
In this captivating episode of The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with Kris Abdelmessih, the mind behind Moontower. From his immigrant family upbringing in New Jersey to becoming a seasoned market maker who covered virtually every trading pit imaginable, Kris shares his fascinating journey through the financial world. Learn how key mentors, family influences, and pivotal life moments shaped his path from trading floors to becoming a respected financial writer.
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The Intentional Investor #28: Brent Kochuba
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with Brent Kochuba, founder of financial research firm SpotGamma. Brent shares his remarkable journey from network administrator to options trading expert, including his experiences at major financial institutions, surviving market crashes, and ultimately building his own successful derivatives research business. With humor and candor, Brent reveals the unexpected paths that led him to where he is today, including family influences, career pivots, and seizing opportunities during uncertain times.
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The Intentional Investor #27: Daryl Fairweather
Join Matt Zeigler on The Intentional Investor podcast as he interviews Daryl Fairweather, Chief Economist at Redfin and author of the new book "Hate the Game: Economic Cheat Codes for Life, Love, and Work." In this engaging conversation, Daryl shares her journey from MIT to the University of Chicago, her experiences navigating corporate America, and how she applies economic principles to everyday life decisions. With her unique background spanning academia, tech, and real estate, Daryl offers fascinating insights on using economic frameworks to understand human behavior and make better decisions.
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The Intentional Investor #26: Danika Waddell
Join host Matt Zeigler as he interviews Danika Waddell, founder of Xena Financial Planning, in this engaging conversation about career pivots, financial independence, and creating a more inclusive financial services industry. Danika shares her journey from accounting to launching her own financial planning firm during the pandemic, and how her personal experiences shaped her mission to help women in tech achieve financial independence.
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The Intentional Investor #25 Cullen Roche
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, host Matt Zeigler sits down with Cullen Roche, an economist, writer, and financial maverick who has carved out a unique space in the world of finance through his independent thinking and unconventional approach. From his large Irish Catholic family to his journey through finance, Cullen shares an intimate look at how curiosity, non-conformity, and a commitment to understanding complex systems have shaped his professional and personal life.
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The Intentional Investor #24: Ben Hunt
In this profound follow-up conversation, Matt Zeigler welcomes back Ben Hunt to explore the evolution of Hunt's writing and worldview. Beginning with reflections on their childhood relationships with religion and storytelling, the discussion moves into Hunt's journey with Epsilon Theory – from its market-focused origins to his current philosophical crossroads.
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The Intentional Investor #23: Kevin Muir
Kevin Muir, author of the Macro Tourist newsletter and a seasoned trader, joins The Intentional Investor for a fascinating conversation that weaves together trading, life lessons, and Canadian culture. From his early days mastering Monopoly statistics to pioneering computer-driven trading strategies at RBC in the 1990s, Kevin shares candid stories about finding his path in finance. Kevin discusses growing up as the older brother of a professional hockey player, his journey from discount brokerage manager to institutional trading desk, and how becoming a father changed his perspective on risk and career. He offers unique insights into market psychology, friendship, and the importance of finding work you genuinely love.
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The Intentional Investor #22: Eric Markowitz
In this engaging episode of The Intentional Investor, host Matt Ziegler interviews Eric Markowitz, exploring his fascinating journey from investigative journalism to investment research. The conversation weaves through Eric's formative years, professional evolution, and life-changing experiences, offering valuable insights into the intersection of media, investing, and personal growth.
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The Intentional Investor #21: CoreyHoffstein
Join Matt Zeigler as he sits down with Corey Hoffstein, a successful entrepreneur and financial innovator, for a candid conversation about his remarkable journey from video game programmer to financial pioneer. In this wide-ranging discussion, Corey shares the story of his career trajectory - from teaching himself programming at age 12 to founding Newfound Research and developing groundbreaking investment strategies.
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The Intentional Investor #20: Dr. Preston Cherry
Join host Matt Zeigler as he sits down with Dr. Preston Cherry, founder and CEO of Concurrent Wealth Management and author of "Wealth in the Key of Life." From his father's treasured vinyl collection to transformative "fog years," Dr. Cherry shares his journey of discovering the deep connections between music, money, and meaning.
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The Intentional Investor #19: Yuri Khodjamirian
Join host Matt Zeigler as he interviews Yuri Khodjamirian, Chief Investment Officer at Tema ETFs, in this captivating episode of The Intentional Investor. From his early years during the collapse of the Soviet Union to building innovative investment products today, Yuri shares his remarkable journey through the world of finance and entrepreneurship.
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The Intentional Investor #18: Jason Buck
In this fascinating conversation, Matt Zeigler sits down with Jason Buck, co-founder of Mutiny Fund, to explore the unexpected intersections between entrepreneurship, risk management, and personal development. From selling mixtapes in rural Michigan to developing real estate in Charleston and ultimately founding an innovative investment firm, Jason's journey challenges conventional wisdom about success and risk-taking.
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Cursed Knowledge #30: The Road to Hell
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. But how do good intentions go so wrong? And why is it so difficult to course correct? Those are the questions explored by Harper Hunt and Rusty Guinn in this episode of Cursed Knowledge.
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Intentional Investor #17: Jared Dillian
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, host Matt Zeigler sits down with Jared Dillian - former Lehman Brothers trader, acclaimed newsletter writer, and author - for a captivating conversation about the unexpected paths that shape a life's work. From his early days as a Coast Guard officer to becoming a Wall Street trader, and ultimately finding his voice as a writer, Dillian shares candid insights about his journey.
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The Intentional Investor #16: Remi Tetot
Join host Matt Ziegler as he sits down with Remy Tetot, the mind behind The Mad King newsletter and former co-founder of Real Vision, for a fascinating journey through the intersection of technology, finance, and personal growth. From washing dishes in Spain to revolutionizing financial media with Real Vision, Remy shares his remarkable story of constant reinvention. Learn how he transformed from a self-taught coder into a macro analyst under Raoul Pal's mentorship, helped build Real Vision from the ground up, and navigated both spectacular successes and humbling failures in the crypto markets.
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Intentional Investor #15: Brent Donnelly
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, host Matt Zeigler interviews Brent Donnelly, a veteran forex trader, financial writer, and mentor. Brent shares his fascinating journey from aspiring journalist to Wall Street trader, and how he eventually combined his love for writing and finance. Brent offers valuable insights for aspiring traders and finance professionals, emphasizing the importance of finding one's unique edge and maintaining perspective in a demanding industry. This conversation explores the intersection of finance, creativity, and personal growth, making it a must-listen for anyone interested in the human side of trading and investing.
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Cursed Knowledge #29: Allergies
Allergies. We either have them or know some one who does. Ranging from life threatening to mildly irritating, they're one of life's constant annoyances. And they're getting worse. We have more allergies now than ever before. Rusty Guinn joins Cursed Knowledge to talk about why allergies are more common, and if there's anything we can do about it.
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Intentional Investor #14: Drew Dickson
In this episode of The Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler sits down with Drew Dickson, founder of Albert Bridge Capital. Drew shares his fascinating journey from self-proclaimed "world's least focused student" to successful investor and writer. Drew's journey illustrates the power of curiosity, relationships, and perseverance in building a meaningful career in finance. His story will inspire anyone looking to grow personally and professionally while navigating life's ups and downs.
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Intentional Investor #13: Mike Green
The Intentional Investor with Matt Ziegler welcomes Mike Green, a veteran investor and financial thinker. In this wide-ranging conversation, Green offers a candid look at his journey in the financial world, blending personal anecdotes with thoughtful analysis of markets and investing. His stories highlight the unpredictable nature of both markets and life, and the importance of continuous learning and adaptation. This episode provides a fascinating glimpse into the mind of a seasoned investor, offering lessons applicable to both financial markets and life in general.
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Intentional Investor: #12 Jim O'Shaughnessy
On this episode of the Intentional Investor, Matt Zeigler welcomes legendary investor and entrepreneur Jim O'Shaughnessy. Jim shares fascinating stories from his childhood, including memories of his influential grandfather, his early interest in magic, and how rejection shaped his mindset. The discussion covers Jim's journey into investing, his thoughts on education and critical thinking, and his experiences on Wall Street. Jim offers insights on topics like the power of journaling, the importance of empiricism, and his excitement for AI and new technologies.
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Epsilon Theory is an exploration of the most powerful force in our social world - narrative. See more at www.epsilontheory.com.
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