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Evening Double
by The Evening Double Podcast Network
The Evening Double is a podcast centered around running, ambition, discipline, and the stories behind the miles. Each episode brings honest conversations with athletes, coaches, and full-time workers chasing big goals both in and outside the sport. From balancing careers and training to mindset and competition, the show dives into what fuels high performers. Real conversations, good energy, and a great listen on your evening double. Hosted by Keeton Thornsberry, Erik Stauderman, and Ryan Carney
Episodes
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#047: The Big Sponge Theory, When Does Mileage Saturate?
In episode #047 of The Evening Double we went into depth about when is enough whether it comes to mileage or intensity. When does the sponge finally get so much that it's over saturated? We also went into depth about our current training. Did Ryan overdo it in training, is Keeton's knee gonna...
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#046: Dr. Zac Ruppert on Injury Prevention, Best Areas to Strengthen & Dry Needling
We had Zac Ruppert on the pod for episode #046! Zac is a board‑certified orthopedic physical therapist and owner of Ruppert Physical Therapy in Louisville, Kentucky! We discussed best forms of injury prevention, what to do when you do come down with injury and the best way to utilize strength...
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#045: Chicago Marathon Preview & Will the Weather Affect the Pros?
Check out Keeton's coaching HERE Check out the Erik's coaching at Stridecorefit.com Check out Ryan's coaching at Carneyrunning.com In episode 45, we broke down how we see the Chicago Marathon playing out this weekend.…
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#044: James McKirdy of McKirdy Trained
We had James McKirdy on the pod for episode 44 of the Evening Double! James started McKirdy trained in 2016, which has turned into one of the largest coaching platforms in the country with elite runners at 2:04 under him. After COVID, he also started a micro running series, which still goes on...
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#043: London Marathon Date Decided on Rock, Paper, Scissors? Nike's New Shoes & Training Updates
This is not a joke, Sebastian Sawe and Catherine Debrunner played a best out of 3 game of rock, paper, scissors to determine which day the men's elite and which day the women's elite fields will run in the 2027 London Marathon?! Nike drops a bomb in the supershoe game coming out with the Apex,...
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#042: Matt Roe - Director of XC and T&F at Butler University: How to Develop Athletes
We had one of the most passionate college coaches in the country on the pod in episode 42 with Coach Matt Roe of Butler University. Coach Roe began at Butler in 2007 and has helped coach over 50 All-Americans, countless Big East titles and sustain a program in the top 20 in the country over the...
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#041: World Road Running Champs Recap, Strength Training Takes and Race Day Superstitions
Tune in to episode 41 to hear all of our takes on the World Road Running Champs! From the upset in the 5K to Almgren's historic performance in the half. Could Vinny Mauri be the best American distance runner of all time? Keeton thinks so if he can keep training the way he is. Biggest question of...
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#040: Ethan Shuley - From Injury Prone and 60 Mile Weeks to 2:07 in the Marathon
Ethan Shuley joined the Evening Double for episode 40! Ethan grew up in Northern Kentucky and ran 2:07:14 in February 2026 at the Osaka Marathon in Japan. We discussed Ethan's journey from a high school runner, to his mission in Western Ukraine for two years before attending BYU with teammates...
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#039: Berlin Marathon Preview and How to Mentally Prepare in the Final Days
On this episode, Ryan did a one-on-one with Chris Striegel who is officially in Berlin Marathon week! We dove in to what it's been like having a marathon build for an earlier fall marathon and training through the summer heat. He also did this build while juggling a newborn and doing a lot of his...
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#038: Alphafly 4's Overrated? World Running Champs Preview & 7 Weeks to Indy and 11 Weeks to CIM!
Listen to our takes on the new Nike Alphafly 4 release and why we think Nike took a different approach to this shoe than many other companies are taking. We're officially only 7 weeks out from Indy and 11 weeks out from CIM. The fall marathon season goes fast and tune in to hear where we're at in...
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#037: Adam Kiesler - Director of T&F / XC at Murray State University
Adam Kiesler, Murray State's Director of Track & Field and Cross Country joined the pod! Adam is in year 16 with the program and his 8th as the director over everything. After competing for Michigan T&F in college, he quickly knew he wanted to become a coach. We discussed everything from what he...
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#036: Ryan Carney on Shoes, Treadmill Threshold and Training Strategies
On this episode we had good friend Ryan Carney back on the pod! Ryan is full of running knowledge with being in the sport for over 25 years now. We discussed how he’s structuring his training differently from last year’s Indianapolis marathon block and why adding some new variances are…
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#035: How a Shift in Mindset Can Lead to Faster Race Times
On episode 35 we discussed the mental side of running and how a change in mindset may help improve your race times, without a change in training. We also discussed how to structure a week, Erik talked about his 3 week training rotation and Keeton discussed why hitting race pace on workouts may…
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#034: How to Stay Motivated When the Going Gets Tough
Episode 34 was full of insights of how to stay motivated when you either don't have a race on the schedule, the heat is kicking your butt or getting through the freezing cold in the winter. We also broke down Clayton Young's American record attempt in Chicago and why we feel the record may fall,...
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#033: Louisville Mayor Craig Greenberg on the Importance of Staying Active
On this episode, we had on Louisville Mayor, Craig Greenberg! Mayor Greenberg is an avid runner and began the Mayorthon running series throughout Louisville. He fell in love with the sport while attending the 100th Boston Marathon while at Harvard Law School and hasn't looked back since. While...
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#032: A Champion Sidelined, US Running on the Rise and Training Updates
Episode 32 was full of all the latest running news from Sawe pulling out of Berlin, Rupp breaking the American masters half marathon record and Americans taking 2-3-4 at the Lausanne Diamond League 5K. We ended with Keeton talking how his training for his sub 63 minute half marathon attempt in...
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#031 Habanero Recap with 2025 Champ German "Bam" Garcia
Erik may have DNF'd the Habanero 100, but Bam certainly didn't. He's a 7 time finisher of the race, starting with the 100K up to the 135 miler this year. He shares all of his insights into the ultramarathoning world. What works for him in pacing, fueling and staying cool As someone who is a...
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#030: Habanero Hundred Miler Preview
This was an Erik solo pod talking all things Habanero Hundred Miler. From training to race strategy; fueling tactics to dealing with the heat, this episode has a little bit of everything leading into the race. This will be Erik's first 100 miler and with a 20 hour goal, he may find himself in the...
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#029: Freestyle Q&A with Chris Striegel
On this episode we had good friend Chris Striegel back on the podcast for a fun freestyle Q&A episode! Chris is full of running knowledge and we got all his takes on the current state of running and everything surrounding it! Check out the Erik's coaching at Stridecorefit.com Check…
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#028: Why the Doping Ban for Jonah Koech Is a Wake-Up Call for All Athletes
Episode #028 of The Evening Double highlights all the new running news including one of the largest US running doping scandals ever. We give our takes on what this means, what Ingebrigtsen's 5K win means for everyone else and Truett Hane's OTQ journey. We also talk our training, what's working,...
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#027: Matt Muller - Owner of Ken Combs Run Store
Have you ever wondered what it's like to own a small business competing against the big dogs? Matt Muller, owner of Ken Combs Running Store in Louisville, Kentucky takes us through exactly what it's like. He talks about what brands he's had the most success with, how to retain customers and why...
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#026: Track Night Recap & How to Structure your Weeks with a Busy Schedule
Check out the Erik's coaching at Stridecorefit.com Check out Keeton's coaching HERE On this episode we recapped track night with Erik setting a PR but not quite hitting his goal. He's not done with speed, with one last mile time trial coming up a few days before his 100 miler at the end...
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#025: Fall Race Training has Arrived
Check out the Erik's coaching at Stridecorefit.com Check out Keeton's coaching HERE On this episode we talked all things running news including a 24-year-old Pro athlete now running at the University of Texas, the commonwealth games and how fast we think a human can get. Erik won the MJ5K,...
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#024: Kentucky Derby Festival Race Director Chris Martini - Making the KDF Races Accessible for all Runners
Ever wondered what it takes to orchestrate one of the largest festivals in the U.S.? In this episode we had on Chris Martini, Race Director of the Kentucky Derby Festival! Chris shares behind-the-scenes insights that will change how you perceive marathon management. Chris, a Louisville transplant...
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#023: Scott Abbott, CIM Marathon Director: How to Put on one of the Fastest Races in the World
Have you ever wondered what it takes to successfully run one of the fastest marathons in the US, if not the world? Scott Abbott is the Executive Director of the Sacramento Running Association and the race director of the California International Marathon (CIM). He takes us through the life of a...
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#022: Keeton's 8K Champs Recap, Kerr's WR & Staying Focused while on Vacation
On this episode we discussed Keeton's 13th place finish at the US 8K Champs over the weekend. A lot to learn, but also a lot to be proud of. We were both wrong and Josh Kerr did it, setting the mile WR which stood for over 25 years! Hear our takeaways and what we think Kerr will do next. Lastly…
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#021: Q&A + Lycette Belisle and the Importance of Pilates for Runners
Episode 21 is live! We had a two-part episode here with the first part answering your questions you submitted. From our biggest regrets to can we run without a watch?? On the second part we had Erik's girlfriend Lycette Belisle on the pod. She's a Pilates instructor and goes into depth about the...
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#020: How to Stay Healthy and Fit through a Training Block
The Evening Double has made it to 20 episodes! On this episode we discussed how to stay healthy though an intense training block. We shared our experiences with injury, how to avoid them and what practices are best to prevent them. We also quickly previewed Keeton's USATF 8K Champs this weekend…
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#019: Jack Keyes: Breaking 2:30 at Boston and What Ireland Running is all About
On this episode, we had good friend Jack Keyes on the pod! Jack recently ran 2:29 at the Boston Marathon in just his second career full marathon and 1:09 in the half in the same block. Jack is fairly new to running and we dove into how he got so fast, so quickly and what workouts he feels work…
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#018: Bluegrass 10K Recap + Keeton's USA 8K Champs Preview
On this episode we recapped both of our Bluegrass 10K races over the July 4th weekend. What went right, what we learned and our takeaways from the race! We also previewed Keeton's USA 8K Champs coming up in less than 2 weeks in Kingsport, Tennessee. Can he knock off some big names? We rounded it...
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#017: Chris Striegel - Quitting his Full-Time Job to Pursue his Passion Project
On this episode we had good friend Chris Striegel on the podcast! Chris is a 2:22 marathoner who quit his full-time, stable job nearly a year ago to pursue his passion of starting his own running company with Life in Stride. Since then, Chris has helped double the size of the company through...
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#016: Bluegrass 10K Preview & How to Train in 90 Degree Heat
On this episode we talked a little about the Bluegrass 10K that we’re both racing and what we’ve been doing to prepare for it. We dove into pre-race prep, race strategy and how to shake those race morning nerves. One big question we dove into was if fueling during training and racing actually…
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#015: Jax Siddall - Broken Arrow Recap and Preparing for the 2028 OTQ Marathon
On this episode we had Jax Siddall back on the podcast! Jax just ran the Broken Arrow 23K in Truckee, California! This was a skyrace through the mountains with over 4,000!! feet of elevation gain and loss throughout. Jax takes us through what it was like running (powerwalking) this race and what…
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#014 - Heat Training, Broken Arrow Update and the Bicarb Debate
On this episode we gave a training update on how we're handling the summer heat and both preparing for the Bluegrass 10K on July 4th. We dug into the Broken Arrow Sky Race and how Jax and Rory Linkletter did in their debut's on the trail and also why alot of people are transitioning to trail…
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#013: Ryan Carney - Hudson Valley Track Club Founder; Faster as a Master
On this episode we had Ryan Carney on the podcast! Ryan started the Hudson Valley Track Club less than a year ago which has already grown into a staple running community in the area just north of NYC! Ryan's a 2:28 marathoner and talked about what its been like starting this community and how he...
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#012: Running Smarter - Training Plans, Easy Pace and Running Takeaways
What's a good training plan look like? Does it vary for different distances? What's a good weekly mileage plan look like? What is truly an "easy pace"? Why do easy runs matter? What do you learn from poor race strategies and decisions? Have we skipped a workout because of the heat? All of these...
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#011: From Louisville to the Pro Circuit: Jacob Thomson's Running Journey
On this episode we had good friend Jacob Thomson on the pod! Jacob is a Louisville, KY native and currently runs professionally with Under Armour in Flagstaff, Arizona. We talked about what it was like growing up in Kentucky, going to a couple of different colleges and then transitioning to the...
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#010: Running Hot - Our Summer Strategies and St. Louis 2028 Reactions
In this episode, we catch up on our current training and racing plans, share some of our favorite strategies for getting through the summer heat, and talk about our go-to places to run around Louisville. We also break down the announcement that the 2028 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials will be held…
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#009: Aidan O'Gorman - OTQ in the 10K and Training Through the Florida Heat
On this episode we had Aidan O'Gorman on the podcast!Aidan is an alumni of North Florida University where he ran Track & Field and Cross Country. He OTQ'd in the 10K in 2024 during his college career.A native a New Smyrna Beach, Florida, he takes us into what it's like training through the summer...
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#008 - What Makes KorfEdge Running Special with Mike Korfhage and Tracy Edgerton
On this episode we had two very special guests on with Mike Korfhage and Tracy Edgerton! Mike and Tracy co-founded KorfEdge running, one of the largest run clubs in Louisville, Kentucky with over 350 members on their discord! We talked about what makes KorfEdge so special, what it was like…
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#007 - Dylan Allen: Balancing Work, Training and What's Next
Dylan Allen joins the podcast to talk about his path from high school running at Louisville Male HS to Division 1 collegiate success at the University of Kentucky! We discussed how he balances full-time work and coaching with training, and what's next in his running career. A great conversation…
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#006 - How Fast Can Humans Get?
This one was all over the place in the best way possible. We talked speed work philosophy, surviving summer humidity, whether heat training actually makes you tougher, the Cameron Hanes drama, and the growing arms race between the biggest shoe brands in running. We also talked about what's next…
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#005 - KEYS 100 Recap with Team Captain Kevin Carel and Fake Plant Salesman Sam Meredith
On this episode, we had 1/2 of The Flyers team on the podcast to recap the Keys 100 race. They finished second overall, but not after some hardships and hot temperatures. We talked about "Hell's Tunnel" and the iconic 7-mile bridge. This is Kevin's second time doing it and leading the charge for…
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#004: Adam Otstot - Former Professional Triathlete and 2x Kona Ironman World Championship Finisher
On this episode we had Williamsburg, Virginia native Adam Otstot on the pod! Adam is a former professional triathlete and 2x Kona Ironman World Championship finisher! He also helped start Ice Cold Run Club in Williamsburg and gave some great advice on how you can balance a full time job while…
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#003: Florida Keys 100 Preview, Chasing a Sub-4 Mile & Sub-70 in the Half, Threshold Training
In Episode 3 of The Evening Double, we go deep into the chaos of the Keys 100 - covering race strategy, heat management, fueling, crew logistics, sleep deprivation, and what really happens when you’re pushing through 100 miles in the Florida heat. We also break down our current training block,...
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#002 Jackson Siddall: OTQ in his Debut Marathon - Fastest Teacher in the US??
On this episode, we had Jackson Siddall on the podcast! Jackson just won the Eugene Marathon in 2:15, setting the course record and running an OTQ in his DEBUT! Jackson is a full-time teacher in Colorado so we discussed how he manages training at a high level while working a full-time job. FOLLOW...
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#001: Why We Keep Running
Welcome to episode 1 of the Evening Double Podcast! On this episode - we talked a little about ourselves, our backgrounds, how we got into the sport and why we love it. Enjoy! FOLLOW US ON STRAVA! Keeton: https://www.strava.com/athletes/49121059?oq=keeton Erik:...
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The Evening Double is a podcast centered around running, ambition, discipline, and the stories behind the miles. Each episode brings honest conversations with athletes, coaches, and full-time workers chasing big goals both in and outside the sport. From balancing careers and training to mindset and competition, the show dives into what fuels high performers. Real conversations, good energy, and a great listen on your evening double. Hosted by Keeton Thornsberry, Erik Stauderman, and Ryan Carney
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