PODCAST · society
F***ing Ethical
by Song and Sara
An impactful consumption podcast
Episodes
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Vulnerability and Debt
In this episode Song and Sara discuss some of their own journeys with debt - especially around student debt. U.S. Department of Education Announces Transformational Changes to the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program, Will Put Over 550,000 Public Service Workers Closer to Loan Forgiveness...
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California Fires
In the (hopefully, almost) aftermath of yet another wild wildfire season, in an episode that takes us to the California fires (and Sara's childhood!), Sara shares her experience and knowledge of fire management, fire-related history, and policies. And of course, no episode is complete without a...
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Legalizing Marijuana
With the spate of legalization and decriminalization laws hitting states, we dove into the history, the current state, and the questions for the future impacts of the laws on communities. Notes: https://freakonomics.com/podcast/marijuana-legalization/ email us at [email protected] find us at...
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Our Friendship
The things that connect us, challenge us, and make our partnership work: enneagram, faith, and Big Friendship. email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram
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On Being Asian American & Deconstructing Anti-Asian Hate
This Asian American Pacific Islander Heritage Month, Song gets personal. Song and Sara have a conversation around Song's identity, and the role it has had in her career working on policy and using the law to defend the rights of the AAPI community. Song calls out the non-obvious violence (read,...
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Start-ups as Speedboats
... avoiding perfection and powered by ethics. Song and Sara reflect on their Start-ups and DEI Event Man UnMade podcast with Sarah & Beth My Semester with the Snowflakes - Huffpost article on the author email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram
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Ethics Minimum Viable Product
We kicked off our startup series with a conversation with the brilliant Jessica Pachuta and Dror Yaron of Ethics MVP. We talked about our journeys as founders, about practices for operationalizing ethics (name your values!), and as a bonus, even got to hear ethics defined in the most simple,...
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Access to Insulin
A conversation with Eli Terris on the Insulin for All Campaign, how important state policies are in making real change for accessible health care, and how to be a sustainable activist. Mentions: Connecticut Insulin for All Yale Diabetes Center email us at [email protected] find us at...
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Media, Major Leagues, and Messaging Masterclass
This week, Song and Sara are joined by human rights lawyer, social impact founder, and communications strategist extraordinaire, Juhu Thukral for a conversation on all things media. Juhu gives us insights on brand strategy and creating messaging for social justice issues that inspire and last…
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My Health Insurance, My Self
Song and Sara talk about their personal experiences with navigating health insurance providers and platforms in 2020, and discuss some of the things that could make the process better and what economic incentives can we use to really make the system work for the people reliant on it. email us at...
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Health, Equity + Activism
Song is joined by Gregg Gonsalves, a professor at the Yale School of Public Health and Yale Law School focusing on operations research/epidemiology for infectious disease, who has been an AIDS and global health activist for 30 yrs. Recorded the day after Inauguration Day 2021, we share moments of...
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2020 An Inflection Point
Abbigale Shi joins us again to discuss how 2020 has been an inflection point in all our lives, highlighting priorities, and challenging us to weigh and hold many hard things at once. email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram
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Choice Under Capitalism: It's a Trap
Abbigale Shi, Opinion Editor at The Daily Free Press, joins Sara and Song to talk about navigating personal ethical choices. email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram
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International Development Pt 3
Lina Kacyem joins Sara again to discuss institutional structures in international development - how they are and are not working. And challenging ourselves to think about our motivations, privileges, history and how we share power. email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or…
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International Development Pt 2
Sara is joined by Yale School of Management Lina Kacyem to discuss the financial relationship between the United States and Sub-Saharan Africa. Show Links: Yale Africa Startup Review email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram
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International Development Pt 1
How our experiences in Africa, India, Korea, and the U.S. have shaped our understanding of international development and aid.
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Elections, Policy, and US Drug Policy Pt.2
In part two we discuss what it means to be a consumer of cannabis in the US and the policies that have influenced consumption and caused harm over time. Quartz: How to be a Conscious Consumer of Cannabis Clean Green Certified The Twilight of the Ethical Consumer email us at [email protected]...
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Elections, Policy, and US Drug Policy Pt.1
We couldn't not talk about the election this week. In the first of two parts we talk about what we are looking forward to regarding transparent policy making under the Biden Harris administration. email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram
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The Supply Chain of Drugs
What illicit drug has the most ethical supply chain? We investigated acid, cocaine, and heroine, and here's what we found.
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Imagining Better Systems
Song and Sara talk about current events, and systems that aren’t working for everyone. Articles mentioned and referenced: Coinbase CEO message for no political speech Federal Government Hatch Act California Wildfires Guidance from native populations Directing blame to environmental policy Fire...
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On Being An Impactful Investor
From institutional investors to personal investors, our conversation with Alexandra Sing is full of perspective and insights on best practices for all who want to make an impact with their dollars.
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S&S Chat: Identity and Work
Song and Sara reflect on how the are finding meaning in and aligning their values with their work. Referenced: Fairphone
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Education Systems and Stakeholders
Song and Sara are joined by friend Aungar Chatterjee to discuss our education systems, the choices we have, the systematic challenges, and how we can become informed stakeholders of the educational system. A few highlights: Nikole Hannah Jones Choosing a School for my Daughter in a Segregated…
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Why We Need To Talk About Amazon
We can't talk about consumption in 2020 without talking about Amazon. Here's why Amazon matters.
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07. S&S Chat: Food That Keeps us Feeling Soft and Full
Song and Sara talk about what the ethical consumption means to us. A few highlights: Gruet Sparkling Wine In-N-Out vs. Shake Shack Georgian Spinach Spread Senegalese Tea Ceremony email us at [email protected] find us at songandsara.com or on Instagram
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06. So What? About Values Based Investing
What are some of the opportunities and problems within Values Based Investing? We talk about the history of values based investing and faith-based organizations divesting from certain sectors, transparency and use of Green Bonds, divestment vs. investor activism, and looking small and local to...
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What is Values Based Investing (03. Values vs Profit?)
What's the relationship between values and profit? Does values based investing mean compromising returns? Spoiler alert: we think values and profits go hand in hand, and here's why!
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What is Values Based Investing (02. ESG)
We are going to have a nuanced discussion about Values Based Investing next week. But first we want to make an introduction to Values Based Investing. In the second of this three part series we define ESG. Environmental Social and Governance. We would love to hear from you and answer the…
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What is Values Based Investing (01. Intro)
We are going to have a nuanced discussion about Values Based Investing next week. But first we want to make an introduction to Values Based Investing. In the first of this three part series we define Values Based Investing, and talk about all the similar titles/named investment products:...
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02. Supply Webs
What are supply chains? Why are they so complicated? How can we help detangle the webs they've become? Hear us rant about the hidden harm in all the products we consume.
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01. Accountability
Hello from Song and Sara! In this episode, we talk about how ethical consumption is tied into the Black Lives Matter movement on a deep level, and how we can hold companies accountable for their practices.
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