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FIRST MOVERS - In Conversation
by Cassie Roma and Yasmin London
The First Movers Podcast is hosted by Cassie Roma and Yasmin London.It's a community for anyone looking for information, inspiration, stories, and tools to summon the courage (& build the confidence) they need to step off of the sidelines of their lives & into the arena.Because it's the First Movers who shape the world around them, online and offline.They don’t just adapt to change; they create it.By stepping up, they lead, innovate, and challenge outdated ways of thinking, making it possible for others to follow new, better paths.Join us as we help others MOVE FIRST!
Episodes
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He Stole $317K From Her. His Entire Identity Was a Lie with Tracy Hall
Tracy Hall spent 18 months in a relationship with a man she knew as Max Tavita. They ran together, surfed, went on family holidays, and slowly built a life together. Tracy thought she’d found her person. Then one morning she woke up to a Crime Stoppers video showing her boyfriend being arrested...
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The First Red Flags Aren't Red with Dannielle Miller
Content warning: this episode discusses domestic and intimate partner violence, and may be distressing for some listeners. Please take care while listening, and skip this one if it isn't the right episode for you today. One in four women in Australia has experienced intimate partner violence. One...
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Trust Literacy: How Do You Know What's Real Anymore:?
You’re smart. You’re careful. You think you’d know if something wasn’t real. But what happens when your daughter’s voice can be cloned, your boss can appear on a video call, or the health expert in your feed looks credible, sounds authoritative, and has the followers to prove it? Would you…
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The First Phone Conversation Most Parents Don’t Think About
Your child wants their first phone. They want to stay connected with friends, have more independence and, of course, “everyone else has one”. But there’s a conversation we need to have before we hand it over. Because a first phone doesn’t just introduce a child to technology. It introduces them…
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Speaking Up Has A Cost. So Does Staying Silent - with Jo Tarnawsky
Jo Tarnawsky ran one of the most powerful offices in Australian politics: Chief of Staff to Deputy Prime Minister Richard Marles, after twenty years as a diplomat in postings from Iraq to Zimbabwe to India. Then she raised a bullying complaint. Within weeks she was locked out of her own office....
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Wired to Fail: How the Digital Workplace Was Built Against You with Dr Kristy Goodwin
You’re optimising with AI. You're hitting your KPIs. You look like you're killing it. But behind the scenes it’s a different story. Dr Kristy Goodwin calls it the success tax - and in this episode, she makes the case that high-performing women in the digital world are paying it with their health,...
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Raised Ready: The Hidden Cost of Being the Girl Everyone Could Count On
I was hosting a leadership conference. Senior women. CEOs, founders, executives. Ruth Limkin asked one question -"How many of you are the eldest child?" - and 85% of the room put their hands up. That's not a quirky data point. That's a pattern worth pulling apart. This episode is about the...
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Abuse With a Glow Up: How Everyday Technology Has Become the New Weapon of Control
⚠️ Trigger warning: This episode contains references to domestic abuse, coercive control, and family violence. What if the most dangerous weapon in a domestic abuser's hands isn't a fist — but your bank account? In this episode, Yas London sits down with Catherine Fitzpatrick, CEO of Flequity...
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The Price of Being Visible Online
What do online abuse, the boardroom, and elite sport have in common — when it comes to women? The same system, playing out in different venues. And in this episode I'm making the case for exactly what that system is, what it costs, and why the organisations that say they want more women at the…
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The $36 Billion Variable: What Body Image Is Really Costing Women at Work with Taryn Brumfitt
What if the single biggest invisible barrier to women's performance at work has nothing to do with strategy, leadership, or culture? Taryn Brumfitt - 2023 Australian of the Year, founder of the Embrace Collective, and one of the world's leading voices on body image - calls it the hidden variable…
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When Capability Becomes a Cage: The Psychology of High-Functioning Women
When Capability Becomes a Cage:The Psychology of High-Functioning Women Why sustainable success starts beneath the surface In this episode of the First Movers podcast, Cassie Roma and Yasmin London sit down with clinical psychologist Rajna Bogdanovic to unpack the truth about high-functioning…
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Unmasking the Influence Economy: How Super Influencers and Self-Help Gurus Shape Society and Identity at Scale
What happens when influence stops being content… and starts becoming culture? In this episode of First Movers, Yasmin London and Cassie Roma peel back the algorithm (and the big business of influence) to explore the rise of the super influencer — the creators shaping how we think, who we trust…
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Renaye Iserief: Suited For Legacy & talking Courage, Community, and the Women Who Played Anyway
Before sponsorship deals. Before prime-time coverage.Before anyone thought women’s football was “marketable.” There were rats in the hotel rooms. And women who made a pact to play anyway. In this episode of the First Movers Podcast in partnership with Dina Uniform Group, Matildas pioneer Renaye...
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Dressed Like We Belong – Leigh Wardell on representation, respect, and rewriting the system #SuitedForLegacy
In this episode of the First Movers Podcast in partnership with Dina Uniform Group, Matildas alum Leigh Wardell shares a story that begins in shyness and ends in leadership. Leigh wasn’t the loudest in the room. She wasn’t chasing headlines. But football taught her something deeper than…
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Built to Rise – Trae McGovern on courage, culture shifts, and the responsibility of legacy #SuitedForLegacy
Trigger Warning: This episode includes discussion of childhood trauma. Please take care while listening. Before the Matildas rose to global recognition…Before tailored uniforms and sold-out stadiums…There was a young girl carrying pain she didn’t choose. In this powerful episode of the First…
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Suited for Legacy: Eesh Ferguson on Dirt, Identity, and Rewriting the Uniform
Before tailored blazers.Before sold-out stadiums.Before the world paid attention. There were hand-me-downs. In this episode of the First Movers Podcast, Matildas trailblazer Eesh Ferguson takes us from dirt-smeared childhood games to representing Australia on the world stage. We talk team...
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The Power of Sport and Visibility: Matilda Legend Sue Read on Confidence, Culture, and Changing the Game
What happens when girls grow up outrunning the boys… but the system still tries to bench them? In this episode of the First Movers Podcast, we sit down with Sue Read to talk about the joy, grit, and quiet rebellion of women’s sport. From solitary hours of practice to the electric surge of the…
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The Courage to Go First: Gill Hicks on Resilience, Art, and Building Peace in Real Time
Note: This powerful episode describes traumatic events of the London Bombings on July 7, 2005 In this powerful First Movers conversation, Gill Hicks reminds us that leadership doesn’t begin on a stage or with a title. It begins in a moment of choice. After surviving the London bombings on the 7th...
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QUICK BITE: Cassie Roma on Why Money Is Not the Point — Freedom Is (Why Financial Agency Changes Women’s Lives)
What if money was never the point? What if it was always about freedom — the freedom to say no, to rest, to choose, to leave, to stay, to breathe? What if money was always about agency and choice? In this solo episode, Cassie Roma unravels the emotional truth about money (inspired by Yas and...
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FM Quick Bite: Yasmin London on the Australian Social Media Ban for Under 16s
December 10, 2025 was a big day Downunder. Australia became the first country to ban social media for under-16s. As an expert in social media, online safety, and work to protect kids (and adults online), Yasmin London has an inside look at what this means and gives us the context we need to...
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Making Money Move: In Conversation with Betsy Westcott (Financial Freedom, Fiscal Fallacies & First Movers)
What if wealth wasn’t about the number in your bank account…but about how alive your life feels? In this electrifying conversation, Cassie and Yasmin sit down with the phenomenal Betsy Westcott — money educator, advocate for educating women, and unapologetic disruptor of the “good girls don’t…
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Cringe, Courage & Confidence: Showing Up in a Chaotic Internet (Quick Bites with Cassie Roma)
In this First Movers “quick bite,” Cassie Roma dives into what it really takes to show up online with courage in a world that feels like both a megaphone and a minefield. From trolls to algorithms to world leaders calling people “quiet piggies,” Cassie breaks down how women can build confidence…
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When Intimacy Gets a Price Tag — The True Trade of AI Companionship
This week’s First Movers Quickie has Yas exploring one of the most confronting trends shaping tech, identity, and emotional connection: AI intimacy. Following our conversation with global sextech expert Bryony Cole, we dive into what it means when AI stops being just a tool and starts becoming a...
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Turned On: The Future of Sex, Shame & Self-Discovery (Cassie Roma and Yasmin London talk Sex Tech with Bryony Cole)
What happens when curiosity meets courage and a bit of chaos? In this episode, we chat with Bryony Cole—Sex Tech pioneer, futurist, and all-around badass—about the rise of Sex Tech, breaking down shame, and redefining what it means to live (and love) freely. From her childhood as a wildly curious...
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Who Does The Future REALLY Belong to? Recorded LIVE at SXSW 2025
For our first-ever live recording at Clear Hayes House, SXSW Sydney, Cassie Roma and Yasmin London sit down with the extraordinary Dr Catherine Ball — author, futurist, and unapologetic disruptor. From her curious childhood and the mentors who shaped her, to her fearless work at XPrize and Vox...
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First Movers Quick Bites: Yas London Breaks Down the AI Actor Shaking Up Tech, Gender and the Future of Storytelling
First Movers Quick Bites: Yas London Breaks Down the AI Actor Shaking Up Tech, Gender and the Future of Storytelling In this solo episode, Yasmin London brings you a bold, bite-sized drop on one of 2025’s most provocative stories: the rise of AI-generated actor Tilly Norwood. Crafted, not cast,...
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First Movers Quick Bites: Cassie Roma Talks Slowing Down to Speed Up And The Quiet Power of Moving First
In a world obsessed with hustle, speed, and the next big thing — what if the real secret to moving first… is slowing down? In this solo episode, Cassie Roma dives deep into the paradox of progress: how stillness fuels clarity, and how intentional pauses create space for bold, brave movement....
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The Loneliness Epidemic: Why Belonging Beats Fitting In
Episode Description: In a hyper-connected world, loneliness is quietly becoming one of the greatest public health challenges of our time. In this episode, Yasmin London and Cassie Roma tackle the Loneliness Epidemic head-on—exploring why so many of us feel disconnected, even in a sea of…
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Micro-Feminism: Turning Everyday Defaults Into Everlasting Disruptions
Micro-feminism is feminism’s espresso shot—tiny, potent, and guaranteed to jolt the patriarchy awake. In this episode of the First Movers Podcast, Cassie and Yasmin swap stories, memes, and cheeky truths about the small acts of equality that ripple through workplaces, culture, and everyday life....
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First Movers - WNBA Players Dodging Dildos & First Mover Strategies to Change The Game (For The Better)
First Movers with Cassie Roma & Yasmin London — where we call it like it is. This week, we’re talking about the recent dildo-throwing debacle in the WNBA and why it’s not just a “wild fan moment” — it’s part of a bigger, uglier culture of demeaning women in sport. From locker rooms to boardrooms,...
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The First Movers Podcast is hosted by Cassie Roma and Yasmin London.It's a community for anyone looking for information, inspiration, stories, and tools to summon the courage (& build the confidence) they need to step off of the sidelines of their lives & into the arena.Because it's the First Movers who shape the world around them, online and offline.They don’t just adapt to change; they create it.By stepping up, they lead, innovate, and challenge outdated ways of thinking, making it possible for others to follow new, better paths.Join us as we help others MOVE FIRST!
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