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For Love & Money
by Carolyn Butler- Madden
The For Love & Money Podcast is a show where business and social purpose meet to inspire a movement for positive change – business as a force for good; brands driving profit through purpose. The two essential ingredients we explore through our podcast interviews? Firstly, Love. Love of our home planet; of humanity; people; culture. Love of what you do and why you do it. The love that employees, customers and clients have of a business built on love. Secondly, Money. Yes, profit. We explore how purpose drives profit. Also how being profitable allows purposeful businesses to scale their impact. The objective of the show is all about inspiration. We want to help our listeners to answer the question so many of them have in their minds: How do I build a purpose-led business in a way that is meaningful, profitable and inspires me and everyone in the organisation to use our business as a force for good?
Episodes
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Ep 106 Inclusion By Design: Mastercard's Julie Nestor on Marketing That Opens Doors
Disability inclusion, inclusive design and what marketing looks like when it starts with the people it's for. Most of us never think about how we find the right card in our wallet. For people who are blind or have low vision, it can mean asking someone else to rifle through it for them. Julie...
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Ep 105 The Worry Dog: How Dr Julie Paine is Helping Children Manage Anxiety
EPISODE OVERVIEW Dr Julie Paine spent years as an equity research analyst at Morgan Stanley, reading balance sheets and sizing up senior leadership, before retraining as a Chartered Psychologist. Over the course of twenty years of practice she noticed that the roots of most adult anxiety trace…
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Ep 104 Brands with Heart: Philippa Durant on How Purpose Drives Performance
EPISODE OVERVIEW What does it actually take to turn purpose into a performance lever? Not a values statement. Not a CSR budget. A genuine, measurable driver of revenue, retention and growth. Philippa Durant is Country Manager for Expedia Australia and New Zealand, one of Australia's Top 50 CMOs,...
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EP 103 Money Backwards: Why Amanda di Medici Built Yenom
EPISODE SUMMARY Amanda di Medici is the founder of Yenom, an independent financial wellbeing business helping employers address the hidden cost of financial stress in the workplace. After careers spanning technology, mortgage broking, financial counselling and adult education, Amanda built Yenom…
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Ep 102 First, Start With Coffee — with Pablo & Rusty's CEO, Abdullah Ramay
ABOUT THIS EPISODE What does it actually take to run a purpose-driven business? Not talk about it — actually do it? Abdullah Ramay, CEO of Pablo & Rusty's Coffee Roasters, has a clear answer: start with great coffee. Purpose is an AND statement, not an OR statement. And if the product isn't...
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Ep 101 Change the Questions, Change the World: Catalytic Thinking with Hildy Gottlieb
EPISODE OVERVIEW What if the biggest obstacle to creating change in your organisation isn't a lack of resources, effort, or intention — but the questions you're asking? That's the central challenge Hildy Gottlieb has spent 30 years answering, and it cuts right to the heart of what purpose-driven...
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Ep 100: 100 Episodes In. Carolyn Butler‑Madden on what Purpose-Driven Leadership Really Looks Like
EPISODE OVERVIEW Episode 100 is a milestone celebration — and a role reversal. This time, Carolyn Butler-Madden is in the guest seat, interviewed by purpose champion and trusted colleague Peter ter Weeme. Together they reflect on 100 episodes of For Love & Money: the insights that have surprised,...
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Ep 99 Sara King, Intrepid Travel: Creating Positive Change Through the Joy of Travel
EPISODE OVERVIEW What does it look like when purpose isn't a department, a report, or a communications device — but the operating system of an entire business? Sara King is General Manager of Purpose at Intrepid Travel, one of the world's most recognised purpose-led businesses. She's responsible...
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Ep 98 Future Fit Leadership: What It Really Takes to Do Your Best Work with Cherie Mylordis
EPISODE OVERVIEW What does it really take to do your best work as a leader? Cherie Mylordis has spent her career at the leading edge of that question — from the Sydney 2000 Olympic Games to boardrooms across the globe. Her research with 200 leaders revealed a confronting truth: only one in three...
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Ep 97 The Stubborn Bull: Robin Power on Why Changing Engineering Could Change Everything
EPISODE OVERVIEW Seventy percent. That's the share of Australia's emissions associated with the infrastructure we build and operate — roads, railways, airports, tunnels. And the profession best placed to move that number? Civil engineering. Which also happens to be one of the most conservative...
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Ep 96 From Stage Craft to Business Impact: Terri Martin on Leading Through Communication
Episode Overview What does a performing arts institution have to teach the business world? As it turns out — everything. In this episode, Carolyn speaks with Terri Martin, Head of Corporate at NIDA — the National Institute of Dramatic Art — about why communication is the most underinvested...
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Ep 95 Balance the Scales: Sam Trattles on The Power to Ask
In this International Women’s Day 2026 special, Carolyn Butler-Madden speaks with negotiation expert Sam Trattles about women in leadership, pay equity, professional development budgets, and the power of self-advocacy. Together they explore how conviction, craft and courage help leaders…
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Ep 94 The Flexible CEO: Athena Manley on Reimagining Leadership, Life and Impact
The Flexible CEO: Athena Manley on reimagining leadership, life and impact What if the leadership talent businesses need most is hiding in plain sight? In this episode, I’m joined by Athena Manley, founder of The Flexible CEO, to explore a new leadership model connecting underutilised senior...
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Ep 93 Purpose in Action: Hilary McAllister on Climate Justice at Ben & Jerry's
Episode Overview What does it look like when a global brand doesn’t just talk about values — but organises around them? In this episode of For Love & Money, I’m joined by Hilary McAllister, Activism Manager at Ben & Jerry’s Australia. Hilary’s path into activism has been anything but linear....
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Ep 92 Sarah Sheridan, Clothing The Gaps: Not A Date to Celebrate and the Role of Business
EPISODE OVERVIEW What responsibility does business have in shaping the kind of country we want to be? In this episode of the For Love & Money Podcast, I’m joined by Sarah Sheridan, Co-Founder and Deputy CEO of Clothing The Gaps — a certified Aboriginal business, social enterprise and B Corp that...
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Ep 91 Together We Can: Peter Baines OAM on a Run To Remember for Hands Across The Water
EPISODE OVERVIEW What does leadership look like when everything is on the line? In this deeply moving episode of For Love & Money, I’m joined by Peter Baines OAM — humanitarian, leadership expert, founder of Hands Across The Water, and author of the powerful new book Together We Can (his fourth...
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Ep 90 Impact Entertainment: Elizabeth Tyler of good.film on Bridging Division Through Story
Episode Overview What if the stories we watch could help rebuild the social fabric? In this episode, I’m joined by Elizabeth Tyler — co-founder and CEO of good.film, a platform using film and television as a catalyst for connection, empathy and real conversation. With declining social cohesion,...
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Ep 89: How Much Is Enough? Sandy Blackburn on Rethinking Wealth, Work and Purpose
Episode Overview What does it mean to redefine wealth — not as accumulation, but as enoughness? And what happens when you build a life and a career around community, purpose and shared humanity instead of individual achievement? In this profound and compelling conversation, I speak with Sandy...
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Ep 88 Kind Business: Dr David Cooke on How Values Create Value
What does kindness look like in business — and why does it matter for commercial success? In this episode, I’m joined by Dr David Cooke—Executive Director of ESG Advisory, Adjunct Professor at UTS Business School, and author of Kind Business: How Values Create Value. In this deeply human...
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Ep 87 Redefining Governance: Shirley Chowdhary on Boards, AI and Inclusive Leadership
In this insightful and forward-looking conversation, Shirley Chowdhary joins Carolyn Butler-Madden to explore what modern governance and leadership look like in an age defined by rapid change, technology and social transformation. A seasoned board director, Chair and former CEO, Shirley shares…
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Ep 86 - Leading with Love: Peter ter Weeme on Purpose, Inclusion and Courage
In this powerful episode of the For Love & Money Podcast, Carolyn Butler-Madden speaks with Peter ter Weeme, a lifelong activist and global leader in values-based business. Peter’s career has spanned corporate, government and nonprofit sectors across North America, Europe, Asia and Australia.…
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Ep 85 Jeremy Meltzer: i=Change - Powering Business for Good
In this episode of For Love & Money, I speak with Jeremy Meltzer, Founder and CEO of i=Change, Australia’s fastest growing impact marketing platform. Jeremy has built partnerships with over 400 brands – from Camilla and Clarins to law firms and hospitality businesses – raising more than $12…
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Ep 84 Abigail Forsyth: The KeepCup Story - Leading the Reusable Cup Revolution
In this episode of The For Love & Money Podcast, I speak with Abigail Forsyth OAM, co-founder and Managing Director of KeepCup—the company that kickstarted a global revolution in reusable coffee cups and helped change the way we think about single-use packaging. From her early days as a lawyer to...
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Ep 83 Katherine Teh: From Conflict to Consent. How a Social Purpose Company is Changing Mining
Episode Summary What does it take to turn outrage and opposition into legitimacy and consent? In this episode, we explore that question with one of the world’s leading authorities on social licence and legitimacy. My guest, Katherine Teh, is the founder of a pioneering social purpose company…
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Ep 82 Craig Swift McNair: The Transformational Impact of a Unifying Purpose at Woollahra Council (Part 2)
Episode Summary In Part 2 of this two-part feature on Woollahra Council’s transformation, Carolyn speaks with Craig Swift-McNair, the Council’s General Manager. Craig offers a refreshingly candid account of what it takes to embed purpose and values across a whole organisation. He reflects on the...
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Ep 81 Patricia Occelli: The Transformational Impact of a Unifying Purpose at Woollahra Council (Part 1)
Episode Summary: In this episode of the For Love and Money podcast, In this episode, Carolyn Butler-Madden speaks with Patricia Occelli, Director of Community and Customer Experience at Woollahra Council. Patricia shares the story of how doing the work to create a unifying purpose transformed the...
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Ep 80 Katherine Trebeck: Beyond Business As Usual - Building the Wellbeing Economy
Episode Summary In this powerful and deeply thoughtful episode, political economist and changemaker Katherine Trebeck joins Carolyn to explore what it means to build an economy that works for people and planet. Katherine shares her journey from working with Oxfam and Rio Tinto to co-founding the...
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Ep 79 David Ferreira: Baking Things Better - Bob & Pete’s Recipe for Leading with Purpose
Episode Summary In this inspiring episode of the For Love & Money Podcast, Carolyn Butler-Madden speaks with David Ferreira, Head of Marketing at wholesale bakery Bob & Pete’s, about their transformative journey toward becoming a purpose-led business. What started with one passionate junior...
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Ep 78 Hunter Leonard: Creating Change Through Business
Episode Summary: Welcome to the For Love and Money podcast, where Carolyn Butler-Madden explores the intersection of business and social purpose. In this episode, Carolyn sits down with Hunter Leonard—business owner, author, speaker, and advocate for ending ageism. As the CEO of Blue Frog...
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Ep 77 Chris Hudson: Catalysing change: Personal purpose at work
Episode Summary: In this episode of For Love & Money, Carolyn Butler-Madden is joined by Chris Hudson, Founder & CEO of Company Road, to explore how his own personal purpose has driven his work in catalysing organisational change. Chris shares his journey from childhood to the Ad Agency world,...
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Ep 76: What Is Love?
In this special episode of For Love & Money, we celebrate the launch of What Is Love, an anthology of unconventional love stories from a global community of storytellers. Host Carolyn Butler-Madden is joined by Rumi Tsuchihashi, the book’s editor, along with contributors Leanne Fournier and Sabah...
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Ep 75 Lalita Lowe: Every piece of clothing has a story
In this episode of For Love & Money, Carolyn Butler-Madden dives into the transformative world of ethical fashion with Lalita Lowe—TEDx speaker, author, fashion designer and advocate for sustainable practices in the fashion industry. Lalita shares her journey from working with leading designers…
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Ep 74 Ash Rosshandler: Giving Time, Talent and Treasure
Today’s guest is Ash Rosshandler - a thought leader in corporate social responsibility and the founder of GoodCompany, Australia and New Zealand’s largest unified platform for Workplace Giving, Volunteering, Fundraising, and Rewards. Under his leadership, GoodCompany has driven over $100 million…
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Ep 73 Jenni Harding: Helping You Do Your GREATEST GOOD
Welcome to another insightful episode of the For Love and Money podcast. Join host Carolyn Butler-Madden as she delves into the world of purpose-driven business with Jenni Harding, founder and managing director of Greatest Good. Jenni is driven to create opportunities for positive behavioural,...
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Ep 72 Louisa McKay: When Lemons Give You Life
Welcome to the For Love and Money podcast where business and social purpose meet. In this episode, host Carolyn Butler-Madden dives into the inspiring journey of Louisa Mackay, founder and chief lemon peeler of Byroncello, a locally crafted Limoncello from Byron Bay. Through Byroncello, Louisa…
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Ep 71 Carolyn Butler-Madden: Start with WHO
In this episode of the For Love and Money podcast, Carolyn Butler-Madden explores the concept of being a purpose-led business or leader by challenging the traditional notion of starting with "why". She introduces the idea of starting with "who" as a fundamental approach to understanding and...
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Ep 70 Phil Preston: Gently shoving elephants
"Gently shoving elephants" (in case you're scratching your head), is a metaphor for the work Phil and I are doing in supporting purpose-driven business transformation. But before we get into that, I'm excited to introduce you to my collaborator-in-purpose, Phil Preston. Phil helps leaders and…
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Ep 69 An Intrepid Special: Cultural Immersion in Australia’s Red Centre PART 2
Welcome to part two of the For Love and Money podcast's special Intrepid episode, "Cultural Immersion in Australia's Red Centre". In this episode, Carolyn Butler-Madden continues her journey through Central Australia, sharing the second part of her transformative experience with Intrepid Travel....
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Ep 69 An Intrepid On Country Special: Cultural Immersion in Australia's Red Centre (Part 1)
What if your next holiday could transform your understanding of history and culture? In this first episode of a two-part special, take a journey with us into Central Australia, where I had the incredible opportunity to experience the sacred sites of the Western Arrernte people with Intrepid…
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Ep 68 Abigail Thomas: Sustainability is everyone’s job
Abigail Thomas is a purpose driven sustainability and digital leader with a vision to create positive environmental and social change through innovative solutions. She has more than twenty years’ experience in digital strategy, transformation, sustainability, innovation and product development,...
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Ep 67 Penelope Goodsall: There’s More to Good Wine
Today's guest, Penelope Goodsall, is a passionate and purpose driven business leader with over fifteen years of global expertise in brand strategy and communications. As Australian Vintage’s Sustainability Manager, Penelope is responsible for leading the global ESG (Environmental, Social, and...
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Ep 66 Saxon Wright: Mindful Consumption
Today's guest has roots in the coffee industry going back 20 years and has pioneered many businesses including coffee education, coffee farming and processing, cafe’s and roasting. Saxon Wright is the founder and owner of Pablo & Rusty’s Coffee Roasters, a B Corp certified roasting company based…
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Ep 65 Lisa Erhart: Funding HER business growth
Welcome to the For Love and Money podcast, the show where business and social purpose meet to inspire a movement for positive change. In this episode, Carolyn introduces Lisa Erhart, author of Advanced Grant Writing for Female Founders. Lisa is a passionate funding specialist with over two…
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Ep 64 Josh Kirkman: Deep Blue Opportunity
Josh Kirkman, CEO of Surfers for Climate is our guest today. Surfers for Climate is an Australian charity dedicated to turning the tide on climate change. Since it was founded in October 2019, it has inspired the collective power of surfers through initiatives like the successful Fight for the...
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Ep 63 Geoff Wilson AO & Caroline Gurney: Building a better future for the next generation
Win-win-win…at scale. That is the message behind Episode 63 of the For Love & Money podcast, featuring Geoff Wilson AO, Chairman and Chief Investment Officer of Wilson Asset Management and Founder of Future Generation and Caroline Gurney, Chief Executive Officer of Future Generation. Geoff has…
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Ep 62 Tim Stubbs: Starting Point
Tim Stubbs, founding Director of WolfPeak, a strategy and environment consultancy, joins us on this episode of "For Love & Money." Tim would much rather be surfing than working, but with bills to pay, he and co-founder Steve Fermio set up WolfPeak to grow a profitable company doing work they...
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Ep 61 Paloma Rose Garcia: A Brush With Climate
Paloma Rose Garcia is the owner of Paloma hair salon in Paddington. I first heard about Paloma over a year ago, after reading a Guardian article on the workshops that she runs. In collaboration with climate experts, she trains hairdressers on how to have conversations about the facts on climate...
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Ep 60 Danielle Owen Whitford: Tackling Toxic Productivity
Danielle Owen-Whitford founded start up Pioneera in 2018 to improve our mental health by tackling the crippling issue of workplace burnout and improving “positive” productivity. Pioneera's purpose is to unleash everyone's potential to be happier, healthier and more productive at work. In this...
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Ep 59 Desmond Campbell: Celebrating First Nations identity and cultural legacy
Desmond Campbell is a proud Gurindji and Alawa-Ngalakan man from the Northern Territory and is the CEO of Welcome to Country with a background in consulting, social policy and Government services. Desmond joined Welcome to Country to continue to build a platform that is First Nations led and...
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Ep 58 Aga Bajer: Belonging is a Verb
My guest is a woman after my own heart. Aga Bajer is obsessed with the opportunity to create thriving cultures by understanding what it is that people need to do their best work. Aga wears many hats as the driving force behind CultureBrained®, where she steers the ship as both founder and CEO....
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
The For Love & Money Podcast is a show where business and social purpose meet to inspire a movement for positive change – business as a force for good; brands driving profit through purpose. The two essential ingredients we explore through our podcast interviews? Firstly, Love. Love of our home planet; of humanity; people; culture. Love of what you do and why you do it. The love that employees, customers and clients have of a business built on love. Secondly, Money. Yes, profit. We explore how purpose drives profit. Also how being profitable allows purposeful businesses to scale their impact. The objective of the show is all about inspiration. We want to help our listeners to answer the question so many of them have in their minds: How do I build a purpose-led business in a way that is meaningful, profitable and inspires me and everyone in the organisation to use our business as a force for good?
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Carolyn Butler- Madden
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