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Gavel Gavel
by Thomas Smith and Lydia Smith
Gavel Gavel is the podcast that takes you inside the courtroom. Co-hosts Thomas and Lydia Smith ask the questions you're actually thinking, crack the jokes the case deserves, and cut through legal jargon — while real legal experts with actual trial experience bring the analysis that makes sense of it all. Sharp, funny, and genuinely informative, it's for anyone who's ever watched a trial unfold in the news and wanted someone to explain what's really going on.
Episodes
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GG89: NY Defense Attorney Calls the Tompkins County DA's Cornell Decision "Truly Stunning"
Part 3. Thomas and Lydia welcome back criminal defense attorney Liz Skeen to break down the Tompkins County DA's decision not to prosecute the Cornell Chi Phi case, line by line. Why did the DA's own press release say his office "confirmed" with campus police that there was no crime, instead of...
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GG88: The Cornell Chi Phi Gang Rape Lawsuit, Part 2
Part 2. It's time to talk about the disgusting Snapchat convo that really is the foundation of this entire case. In a group of 57 people, only 1 to possibly 3 people did the right thing and reported it and/or gave it to Jane Doe. Patrons at patreon.com/gavelpod get episodes early and ad-free!
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GG87: The Cornell Chi Phi Gang Rape Lawsuit, Part 1
Part 1. Thomas and Lydia open the 101-page complaint in Jane Doe v. Cornell University et al., the Chi Phi gang rape lawsuit that has taken over the internet, and the misinformation is flying from every direction. What does Cornell's own history of fraternity reform resolutions reveal about how...
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GG86: Broadview 6 Prosecutor Sheri Mecklenburg - Whistleblower or Ass Coverer?
Part 2! Thomas, Lydia, and Matt return to the Broadview grand jury transcript, with Lydia in the role of a lifetime as prosecutor Sheri Mecklenburg. What happens when a juror says the case is a crock of shit, and what does the DOJ's own grand jury manual say should happen next? Then Mecklenburg's...
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GG85: Return of the Mecklenburg
Back to the Broadview Six! Thomas, Lydia, and Matt return to the case that gave us one of our favorite transcript moments of all time, because its most memorable character is suddenly all over the news. Sheri Mecklenburg has left the Department of Justice, and she has a lot to say about why. Her...
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GG84: D-Money Big Dog Orf Orf vs. the Federal Government
Part 2 of Operation Puppet Master! Thomas, Lydia, and Matt dig into the actual discovery documents from the Minneapolis ICE-protest indictment, and what they find is something else. Undercover HSI agents spent months infiltrating boxing classes, church meetings, Zoom panels, and legal observer...
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GG83: DOJ vs. the Totally Completely Real Antifa Conspiracy in Minnesota. That Definitely Happened.
Part 1! Thomas, Lydia, and Matt dig into United States v. Sant et al., a federal indictment of Minneapolis anti-ICE protesters produced by something the government actually named Operation Puppet Master. The conspiracy map names a boxing club, a biking club, and several major unions. The overt…
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GG82: The Tate Brothers Are Scared. Their Filings Prove It.
Thomas and Lydia are joined by MJ Morley to dig into the Andrew and Tristan Tate extradition proceedings now playing out in a Miami federal courtroom. Britain has charged them with 59 offenses across seven complainants. Romania has its own investigation (we think?) And the Tates, freshly arrested...
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GG81: Luigi Mangione's Federal Guilty Plea, with Liz Skeen
Thomas is joined by New York defense attorney Liz Skeen to break down Luigi Mangione's federal guilty plea and what it actually means for the state case still waiting in the wings. The death-penalty charges are already gone. The terrorism theory already got tossed. Now Mangione has pleaded guilty...
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GG80: No WAY They'll Appeal... Right?... RIGHT?!?
Part 4, final part of The Most Brazen and Corrupt Heist in American History! Thomas, Lydia, and Matt finish reading Judge Kathleen Williams' scorched-earth takedown of Trump's tax-return lawsuit slush fund, and it only gets more devastating. Then, a surprise same-day epilogue: Trump's lawyers...
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GG79: Blanche v. Taint
Part 3! Thomas, Lydia, and Matt return to Judge Kathleen Williams's demolition of Trump's $10 billion lawsuit against the agency he runs. Cases discussed: Trump v. IRS Littlejohn leak case US v. Windsor Muskrat v. US Veazie v. Moor Keepseagle v. Vilsack Griffin v. IRS Patrons at...
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GG78: The Blanche Bucks Stop Here
Part 2! Trump "settled" a lawsuit against his own IRS, and out popped a secretive slush fund even the DOJ can't be bothered to name properly. Then 35 retired federal judges took one look and moved to blow the whole thing up. Thomas, Lydia, and Matt Cameron read the settlement, the fund, and the...
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GG77: The Most Brazen and Corrupt Heist in American History
Part 1! Donald Trump sued the IRS, an agency he currently runs, for leaking his own tax returns, and asked for a cool $10 billion. Thomas, Lydia, and Matt dig through the actual complaint and a judge's increasingly suspicious rulings, all timed suspiciously close to Todd Blanche's confirmation...
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GG76: The Biggest Dershbag on Earth, Part 2
In part 2, Douchewitz continues his insane legal battle all the way up to a petition to the Supreme Court. Along the way, he gets help from the Trumpiest MAGA judges of Florida, and yet still his case sucks and he can't win. Patrons at patreon.com/gavelpod get episodes early and ad-free!
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GG75: Alan Dershowitz Turned One Sentence Into A 6 Year Legal Battle
Mixed into the mostly horrific Supreme Court news this week was a rejection of Alan Dershowitz's petition for cert. But... what the hell was that even about? We, for two, couldn't even remember. So we decided to take a look and, if you don't remember, it's extremely dumb. So let's all have a nice...
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GG74: The Broadview Grand Jury Transcripts, Part 2
Part 2! Thomas, Lydia, and Matt finish their live read of the Broadview Six grand jury transcripts, and things get significantly worse. Patrons at patreon.com/gavelpod get episodes early and ad-free!
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GG73: We Have the Broadview Grand Jury Transcripts. They Are Incredible.
Part 1! The Broadview Six grand jury transcripts are finally unsealed, and Gavel Gavel is here to bring them to life. They are seriously amazing. Patrons at patreon.com/gavelpod can listen to Part 2 right now!
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GG72: Luigi Ruling Shows NY Cares About Illegal Searches but Federal Courts Do Not.
It's a tale of two 4th amendments for the world's hottest alleged killer who didn't do it because he was at my house.
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GG71: Why Alex Murdaugh Deserves a New Trial
The "trial of the century" in South Carolina is potentially going to happen for a second time this century. You may have seen some headlines about this but Liz Skeen is taking us even deeper.
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GG70: A Consummating Professional
Part 3! In this very special episode, Thomas and Lydia Smith celebrate their 11th wedding anniversary in the most normal and romantic way possible: subjecting themselves to an extended interrogation about their marriage by a federal agent. After setting the scene in a (very slightly) parallel...
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GG69: The Most Dangerous Newlywed Game
Part 2! In this very special episode, Thomas and Lydia Smith celebrate their 11th wedding anniversary in the most normal and romantic way possible: subjecting themselves to an extended interrogation about their marriage by a federal agent. After setting the scene in a (very slightly) parallel...
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GG68: Extremely Married
In this very special episode, Thomas and Lydia Smith celebrate their 11th wedding anniversary in the most normal and romantic way possible: subjecting themselves to an extended interrogation about their marriage by a federal agent. After setting the scene in a (very slightly) parallel universe in...
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U.S. v. Dunn 8 - A Meaty Legal Issue
GG67 - U.S. v. Dunn 8 Detective Henry finishes her direct testimony but not before the lawyers duke it out over admissibility of the body-worn camera footage that allegedly captures our hero admitting to his crime. How will the judge rule? PLUS: Matt brings us a case out of Massachusetts in which...
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U.S. v. Dunn 7 - Another Witness Is Called and the Plot Thinnens
GG66 - U.S. v. Dunn 7 We've got another witness! Detective Henry. And she's providing critical circles over stuff the jury totally already knew.
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U.S. v. Dunn 6 - A Seasoned Officer
GG65 - U.S. v. Dunn 6 Time for some game changing testimony.
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U.S. v. Dunn 5 - Sandwiched Man Grilled By Defense
GG64 - U.S. v. Dunn 5 Time for our hotshot defense attorney to grill Agent Lairmore!
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U.S. v. Dunn 4 - Victim #1
GG63 - U.S. v. Dunn 4 We hear from the mangled corpse of victim #1. It's a medical wonder that he's even talking.
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U.S. v. Dunn 3 - Opening Condiments
GG62 - U.S. v. Dunn 3 More like US v FUN. Join Matt Thomas and Lydia and we finally get to listen to real, authentic, 100% genuine simulated trial audio! It's the opening statements from each side.
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U.S. v. Dunn 2 - "If You Spit, We Hit"
GG61 - U.S. v. Dunn 2 Matt takes us through some very interesting pre-trial motions.
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Lively v. Baldoni 59 - Causes of Action, Cause for Celebration!
GG60 - Lively v. Baldoni 59 - Wayfarer v. Lively 25 WE MADE ITTTTT! We're FINISHING the idiotic human rights abuse that is the Baldoni amended complaint! And to celebrate this immense accomplishment, we've got none other than MJ Morley for a double album extra longo!
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Lively v. Baldoni 58 - Metadata Reveals NYT Worked on Lively/Baldoni Story BEFORE Publishing It
GG59 - Lively v. Baldoni 58 - Wayfarer v. Lively 24 This is truly a game changer. We're honestly not sure what to think anymore now that we've found out the NYT worked on their story before publishing it. We're honestly shaken. ALMOST DONE with this complaint! Only 1 more ep after this, with MJ...
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Lively v. Baldoni 57 - Don't You DARE Grab Your Friends. AND PUT DOWN THOSE FLORALS
GG58 - Lively v. Baldoni 57 - Wayfarer v. Lively 23 Workin' our way through! Can you believe Blake had the GALL to say grab your friends and wear your florals? Is she some kind of horrible idiot monster clueless victim hating b@#$% or something?
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Lively v. Baldoni 56 - They Had Us Down There With the Soda Bottles. THE SODA BOTTLES, I SAY!
GG57 - Lively v. Baldoni 56 - Wayfarer v. Lively 22 We're back and unironically happy to be digging back into this stupid complaint! Let's get it donnnnnnnnne!!! Doooooooone? That can't be right. DoneeeeeeeeeNOPE ok no good way to do that. I stand by donnnnnnnnnnne.
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Lively v. Baldoni 55 - I SAID. NO ONE'S LEAVING UNTIL WE SOLVE THIS.
GG56 - Lively v. Baldoni 55 - Wayfarer v. Lively 21 EVEN MORE revelations about the August 8th-9th interactions. This is the last one on this! Then we can finally move on like the ghost army that Aragorn brought to Gondor which was kinda cheating, if you ask me.
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Lively v. Baldoni 54 - Alright We're Not Leaving Until We Solve This
GG55 - Lively v. Baldoni 54 - Wayfarer v. Lively 20 Buckle up. It's time for some Perry Mason shit with these August 8th-9th texts and emails.
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A Luigi Mangione Update with NY Public Defender Liz Skeen
Bonus! New York public defender Liz Skeen joins Gavel Gavel to break down what's been happening in the Luigi Mangione trials!
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Lively v. Baldoni 53 - As Melissa Nathan Leaves the Police Station, Her Limp Disappears...
GG54 - Wayfarer v. Lively 19 Join as these rootin' tootin' scrutin' gavelistas unravel the most insane day or two of messages and nonsense. This required like 4 different recordings and re-recordings because it is so complicated.
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Lively v. Baldoni 52 - Baldoni Streisands Nicepool
GG53 - Wayfarer v. Lively 18 Your honor they might have made fun of me possibly and that has to be against the law.
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Lively v. Baldoni 51 - The Last Straw... OR IS IT
GG52 - Wayfarer v. Lively 17 We're back on our Blake beat. Together we can finish this effing complaint (and the attachment)
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U.S. v. Dunn 1 - Assault with a Deli Weapon
It's a new Gavel Gavel trial! We are excited to announce that we will be producing a totally new full trial re-enactment working from our EXCLUSIVE access to the transcript of the federal prosecution of Sean Dunn, better known to the world as the "Sandwich Guy" after being federally charged for...
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BONUS! Dale Wheatley Brings Actual Filmmaking Experience to the Lively-Baldoni Conversation
Happy Holidays normies! Here's the first half of this interview, but you'll need to join as a member to get the second half of our conversation! --- Dale Wheatley joins the pod in this special bonus episode to share his insights as a filmmaker and industry professional watching the Lively v…
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Lively v. Baldoni 50 - Maybe Sony Just Isn't That Into You, Man
Wayfarer v. Lively 16 - It's the last sub-chunk of the November mega-chunk and there's some fun stuff in here! Baldoni and Heath cannot tell when people are obviously lying to them, and also we get some previously unseen Jones/Abel texts!
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Lively v. Baldoni 49 - The Biggest Telling on Themselves Yet
Wayfarer v. Lively 15 - It's here, baby! The most massive self-own. Can't wait for you to hear it.
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Lively v. Baldoni 48 - Blake Bamboozles Baldoni at Book Bonanza
Wayfarer v. Lively 14 - It's Book Bonanza time! Apparently Blake outright STOLE the movie file and showed it to hoards of people without permission or authority??? ARREST HER. Or....maybe that's not what happened. Support the show, get rid of ads, and get bonus stuff over on patreon.com/gavelpod!
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Lively v. Baldoni 47 - How Weird, Sony Also Thinks Baldoni and Heath Are the Problem
Wayfarer v. Lively 13 - The CH words continue to CH. Wayfarer's own complaint continues to be bad for them.
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Lively v. Baldoni 46 - Hey Look, It's Textbook Retaliation By Baldoni Revealed In His Own Lawsuit
Wayfarer v. Lively 12 - Gavelheads and Chunkarinos, it's the end of the month and you know what that means! Chunks, chunks, chunks chunks chunks chunks, chunks! We begin this month's Chunkmas exactly where we left off last time. It's more Wayfarer v. Lively! But we're weirdly excited about it…
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Lively v. Baldoni 45 - FINE. If I Can't Sexually Harass While Making a Movie Then I Don't Even Want to DO IT
Wayfarer v. Lively 11 - in this one, we get a very behind the scenes look at Blake Lively's creative contributions, and they're... good. Support the show, get rid of ads, and get bonus stuff over on patreon.com/gavelpod!
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Lively v. Baldoni 44 - Can I Get Your Autograph on This Nudity Rider
Wayfarer v. Lively 10 - on this one, we get to the whole "she didn't sign the nudity rider/contract" thing. Support the show, get rid of ads, and get bonus stuff over on patreon.com/gavelpod!
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Lively v. Baldoni 43 - But the Intimacy Coordinator Said You Have to Make Out With Me Right Now
Wayfarer v. Lively 9 - the bull shit continues. Support the show, get rid of ads, and get bonus stuff over on patreon.com/gavelpod!
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Lively v. Baldoni 42 - That's One Hot Matcha
Wayfarer v. Lively 8 - Watch as Justin Baldoni tries to defend himself against the horrible bully Blake Lively, and is then never seen or heard from again. Support the show, get rid of ads, and get bonus stuff over on patreon.com/gavelpod!
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Gavel Gavel is the podcast that takes you inside the courtroom. Co-hosts Thomas and Lydia Smith ask the questions you're actually thinking, crack the jokes the case deserves, and cut through legal jargon — while real legal experts with actual trial experience bring the analysis that makes sense of it all. Sharp, funny, and genuinely informative, it's for anyone who's ever watched a trial unfold in the news and wanted someone to explain what's really going on.
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