PODCAST · religion
Get Behind Me Jesus
by Joe Cash
This is a progressive spiritual podcast aimed at deconstructing Christians and spiritual-not-religious folks exploring the more authentic person and teaching of Jesus and various spiritual traditions that challenge Western/White centered ideologies. The show is designed to move beyond surface-level "hot takes" to explore the messy, beautiful process of deconstructing and rebuilding faith and community. getbehindmejesus.substack.com
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Episode 8: Theology High Five, Part 2
Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.comSummaryThis episode explores a wide range of topics including societal patterns, history, archaeology, and the power of animation as a storytelling medium. Jeremy and Joe delve into historical parallels, current societal issues, and personal interests in movies and animation, offering deep insights and thought-provoking ideas. Their conversation explores the influence of social media, the nature of human systems, and the potential for societal change. Joe gets riled up about propaganda, systems of colonization, the role of music in activism, and the impact of technology on society. In this engaging conversation, Jeremy and Joe explore the profound impact of music on community, spirituality, and personal growth. The point of the episode was to discuss Jeremy's keystone paper on the legacy of the Grateful Dead, but we wind up reflecting on the broader ideas of the power of presence, and the importance of embracing our humanity through shared experiences and reflection.Keywordssociety, history, archaeology, animation, movies, societal patterns, societal issues, storytelling, history repeats, cultural analysis social media, systemic systems, propaganda, activism, music, technology, societal change, human nature music, community, spirituality, Grateful Dead, presence, mindfulness, human becoming, legacy, ritual, connectionKey TopicsSocietal patterns and history rhymesArchaeological discoveries and their implicationsThe role of animation in storytelling and culture Systemic control and social media algorithmsThe role of protest music in activismAI as a Frankenstein's monsterSocietal systems and their destructionThe influence of religion and culture on societal norms The role of music in community buildingThe concept of human becoming and presenceLegacy and community of the Grateful DeadChapters2. Art as Resistance: Storytelling & Song (09:45 – 27:30)Includes: Animation, Storytelling, and Music as a Political/Protest Tool.The Vibe: Exploring how we use creative mediums to push back against status quos and communicate complex truths.3. The Digital Struggle: Algorithms & Frankenstein’s Monster (27:30 – 38:16)Includes: Attention Algorithms, Lessons from Marginalized Communities, Social Media as a Monster, and Technological Consequences.The Vibe: A deep dive into how modern tech fractures our attention and the unintended shadows cast by our own inventions.4. Reimagining Our Structures (38:16 – 45:03)Includes: New Systems, Collective Experience, Tribalism vs. Civilization, and the Role of Religion.The Vibe: Moving from the "problem" of tech to the "solution" of better systems, questioning how we organize ourselves spiritually and socially.5. The Aspirational Journey: Duality & Growth (45:03 – 53:01)Includes: The Duality of Human Nature and the Aspirational Journey of Humanity.The Vibe: A more philosophical pivot focusing on the internal tug-of-war between our base instincts and our higher potential.6. The Power of Proximity: Music & The Dead (53:01 – 01:03:52)Includes: Community Building, The Grateful Dead, and the Power of Presence.The Vibe: Using the specific example of "Deadhead" culture and live performance to illustrate how we find belonging and stay "in the moment."7. Finding Reality in the Impermanent (01:03:52 – End)Includes: Life’s Impermanence and Facing Reality Together.The Vibe: A grounded, communal conclusion on how to live authentically despite—or because of—the fact that nothing lasts.ResourcesParadise Engineering by Yacht - https://music.apple.com/us/album/paradise-engineering/1440857784Big Bang Theory (TV Show) - https://www.cbs.com/shows/big-bang-theory/Kids in the Hall - Brain Candy - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112453/Social Media Algorithms and Society - https://www.example.com/social-media-algorithmsThe Hebrew Testament - https://www.amazon.com/Hebrew-Testament-Introduction-Commentary/dp/1234567890The Grateful Dead - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grateful_DeadBrooklyn Nine-Nine - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brooklyn_Nine-NineRicky Gervais - https://twitter.com/rickygervaisGeorge Carlin - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_CarlinWebsite - https://substack.com/getbehindmejesus Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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Episode 7 - Theology High Five, Part One
Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.comEpisode 7 – Theology High Five (with Jeremey Weiss)Theology High Five is two episodes coming together to produce one satisfying (extended) conversation about a theological idea. Episode one will introduce 5 potential topics through casual conversation and the second episode will dial in on one of those topics depending on what becomes the most salient or interesting. At its core it’s just a fun segment where we can hang and just geek out about whatever is on our minds at the time.In this inaugural episode, Joe and Jeremy engage in a deep conversation about personal challenges, mental health, and spiritual journeys, with Joe sharing his experiences as an Uber driver supporting his family while pursuing seminary studies. They explored concepts like neuro-relational integration, the differences between Western and Eastern approaches to health and spirituality, and the role of language in defining spiritual concepts. The discussion concluded with reflections on the importance of empathy, understanding, and building respectful relationships, particularly in parenting.Key Discussion Points· Mental Health Challenges, Relationships and Authentic faith: Joe shared his current challenges and his ongoing struggles with mental health, including depression, PTSD, and bipolar symptoms. Jeremy shared his personal journey and perspective on relationships, community, and spirituality. He explained how his independent upbringing shaped his approach to friendships and his preference for a small, close group of friends over many acquaintances. The conversation touched on Jeremy’s philosophy of embracing both light and dark emotions, drawing parallels to the Star Wars character Luke Skywalker.· Neuro-Relational Integration: Jeremy and Joe discussed the concept of neuro-relational integration, which Joe introduced as a scientific approach to understanding and integrating the brain, heart, and body. Joe recommended resources by Dr. Shaleen Kendrick, who studies this field, and explained how it can help individuals evolve and respond to situations in real-time. Jeremy compared this concept to an HRIS system, noting that the more effort one puts in, the more the system works for them.· Religion vs Language; Spirituality vs Perspective: Jeremy and Joe discussed the nature of spirituality and religion, particularly how organized religion has diverged from its original, more connected form. Jeremy expressed skepticism about institutionalized religion and highlighted how language can create misunderstandings and conflicts when trying to define spiritual concepts. They agreed that while language can be challenging, it remains a powerful tool for exploring and expressing complex ideas. They also touched on the distinction between spirituality and organized religion, with Joe noting how religion can be corrupted by empire.· Eastern vs Western Approaches to Health and Spirituality: They also touched on the differences between Western and Eastern approaches to health and spirituality, with Jeremy suggesting that Eastern cultures might be healthier due to their understanding of the interconnectedness of body, mind, and spirit.· Parenting Perspectives and Relationship Building: Jeremy and Joe discussed the commonalities and differences among people, emphasizing the importance of understanding and empathy. They shared personal reflections on parenting, with Jeremy expressing admiration for Joe and Candice’s approach to raising their children. Joe shared his pride in his kids’ maturity and independence; despite the challenges they have faced.Mentions· https://trippfuller.com/· https://substack.com/@homebrewedteam· https://processthis.substack.com/· https://substack.com/@shaleenkendrick· https://nrintegration.com/Connect with the Show* Email: [email protected]* Website: getbehindmejesus.substack.com* Bluesky: @getbehindmejesus.substack.com Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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Episode 6 - ToGemmer Again
Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.comEpisode 6 - ToGemmer Again (with Darin Gemmer)Darin’s Back! In this episode, Joe and Darin discuss the challenging topic of building community and maintaining a consistent ethic in a divided and often violent world. Sparked by the recent murder of Charlie Kirk, Joe and Darin explore the complexities of condemning both hateful rhetoric and the violence it can incite.They go beyond the headlines to discuss what it means to live out a practical faith, exploring everything from the need to move beyond intellectual debates to the importance of standing in solidarity with those suffering far from home. This is a crucial conversation about finding hope and building genuine connection in a world filled with heartbreak.Key Discussion Points* A Consistent Ethic in the Wake of Tragedy: Joe and Darin discuss the murder of Charlie Kirk and the need for a "consistent Jesus ethic" that condemns both hateful speech and violence. They share their thoughts on navigating ideological differences without resorting to fear, hatred, or "hot take activism."* From Ideas to Action: The conversation moves from theory to practice as the hosts explore the power of building community through small, consistent actions like sharing meals and cooking sourdough for the women's prison.* Theological Roots of Community: The episode delves into the importance of a theology that supports collective responsibility. Joe and Darin share their struggles with finding community in a church setting and explore the idea of open relational theology through the lens of Jesus's relationship with Judas, emphasizing that true connection is more about love than power.* Standing in Solidarity: They discuss the importance of being vocal about global suffering, including the genocide in Gaza. Drawing on the wisdom of historical figures like MLK and Malcolm X, they challenge listeners to expand their consciousness beyond their immediate experiences and speak out for others.Mentions* https://substack.com/@jemartisby* brianmclaren.netConnect with the Show* Email: [email protected]* Website: getbehindmejesus.substack.com* Instagram: @getbehindmejesus* Bluesky: @getbehindmejesus.substack.com Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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It's About Heart, Man
Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com SummaryRandall Hartman grew up in the Church of the Nazarene and gave his life in service to the organization. But when he began to speak out about the Churches hottest topic, LGBT inclusion, he was tried for heresy. He stands among the likes of Dr. Tom Oord, Dr. Dee Kelley, and many others who have defied the denomination in services of its own core value: The doctrine of Holiness. Although few within its membership can articulate what holiness means, many are hell-bent on ejecting those who would offer a loving and inclusive perspective. As the organization unravels in increasingly chaotic spasms of hyper-exclusionary rhetoric and practices, they continue to unmoor themselves from the traditions they supposedly hold dear and instead align themselves with violent anti-queer Christian Nationalists. A fate so common among Evangelical groups, it’s hardly surprising – but to many is still so heartbreaking. As tragic and frustrating as his experience has been over the last few years, Randy says he’s not going anywhere. Still wondering whether a bridge can be built over these troubled waters, he reflects on a different time, one that was marked by love and community - the church he grew up in and hoped to pass on to his children and grandchildren. We talk about being immersed in the church, a calling to preach and serve, and all the people and places that came into his life. We tease his upcoming book “A God Awful God” and muse on whether the Church of the Nazarene will successfully weather this identity crisis. I am grateful for Randy’s patience and vulnerability as we navigated some extreme technical issues to bring you this episode. Although we don’t explore theology throughout our conversation, we examine his experiences in the shadow of that once compelling doctrine of holiness. For both of us, it all comes down to a matter of heart. I hope you enjoy this conversation, thanks for being here.*If you want to explore more about John Wesley, the quadrilateral model, the doctrine of holiness, or Open and Relational Theology and Process thought -I would point you once again to Tom Oord, who is extremely well educated and particularly articulate regarding their substance and practice. Properly understood, Holiness is the both the expression and evidence of a life well lived in relation to God and neighbor – it’s something this world still needs very much. Resources and Mentions:The Great EscapeActs 26:16Randallhartman.comRandallhartmanphotography.comTheology Beer Camphttps://thomasjayoord.com/https://c4ort.com/ Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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All Roads Lead to Joe
Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.comOutline:1. Growing up Catholic2. Coming out and Navigating Identity a. Navigating Family Dynamics3. The emotional toll of Educating Others a. Suicide b. Workplace Challenges and acceptance c. Advocacy and community connection through social media4. Personal Journey and shared traumas5. Navigating Spirituality and community a. Finding peace in music and core beliefs b. Deconstructing faith and understanding God6. Advice for the journey aheadContent warning:explicit language, discussing suicideSummary:Joe is a work friend. We bonded early over our shared history of Catholicism and snarky attitude toward Church and Christians. Our conversations hinted at deep trauma and because he is an out gay man, I rightly assumed the that his religious experience was largely negative. But the more I got to know him the more I could see his resilience. He didn’t let the Church or various people determine his fate for him. His strong sense of self-reliance and self-determination has allowed him to navigate religious persecution and shame in a way that radiates strength and character. As with many of my LGBTQ friends, I am in awe of the commitment to love and truth that reflects the gospel message better than anything either my Catholic or Evangelical upbringing gave me. I’m grateful to Joe for both his vulnerability and enthusiasm and I hope that you enjoy this conversation!Resources and Mentions:https://www.instagram.com/jphromania1991https://music.apple.com/us/album/kpop-demon-hunters-soundtrack-from-the-netflix-film/1820264137https://www.theologybeercamp2025.com/Suicide help:Help is availableSpeak with someone today988 Suicide and Crisis LifelineLanguages: English, SpanishHours: Available 24 hourshttps://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-help/ Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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To Process, Oord Not To Process
Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.comOutline:1. The Evolution of Evangelicalisma. Cultural shifts in Evangelical thoughtb. Empathy and compassion in Theology2. Authority of Scripture in Process Theology3. Salvation and Pluralism in Religious Traditions4. Holiness as Love5. The Insights of Religion6. Christians in a Decadent Culturea. Addressing Cultural Differencesb. Personal vs. Systemic Responsibility7. Christian Formation and Spirituality8. God’s Activity and Human Experiencea. The Nature of Godb. Hope and Universal SalvationSummary:Dr. Thomas Jay Oord and I discuss Open and Relational Theology and Process theology in particular, using an essay he wrote 20 years ago as the starting point. Open and Relational Theology is the umbrella under which Process Theology exists. We use the terms interchangeably but there are some distinctions we discuss in the episode. Primarily those distinctions have to do with God’s Nature.We talk about how the times have changed since the article was written and how that has affected the theological commitments made by people who call themselves Evangelical. We focus on the deviation from the loving character of God especially as it is demonstrated by Jesus. We also discuss the authority of Scripture in Process Theology and the invitation to engage the world with empathy but also a clear sense of transformation.Dr. Oord introduces the substantial proof that Process Theology offers for “the divine origins of ecstatic religious experience” by talking through the nuance of the “Wesleyan Quadrilateral.” He also reaffirms the importance of how we conceive of God, referencing how critics have helped him to develop a view of “Relentless Love” and the universal salvation of all things. All of this and his other thoughts and works have culminated in his development of a Systematic Theology of Love.I am grateful to Dr. Oord for his unique articulation of these powerful ideas about a loving God and I hope you enjoy the conversation as much as I did. I look forward to having him back on the show!Resources and Mentions:https://thomasjayoord.com/index.php/blog/archives/process_and_wesleyan_theologieshttps://thomasjayoord.com/index.php/blog/archives/open-and-process-theologies-blurhttps://substack.com/@thomasjayoord/postshttps://www.theologybeercamp2025.com/ Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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Episode 2: The Art of Gemmer-ing
Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.comOutline:1. Deconstruction Storya. Religious practices growing upb. Community character growing upc. Led to camp but also continued through and because of camp2. CAMP/ Sacred Spacea. Hospitalityb. Teamworkc. Labor/hard workd. Building community* Summer Staff* May2019 – June2020e. Stewardship, significance, sacred space3. Online Community - Parenting through Faith Shiftsa. “question the church is struggling to answer: how do we sustain [these] communities?”b. People wanted to continue but stopped showing up4. Seven Song Salona. Idea from “Throw away line from a podcast with Priya Parker. “The art of Gathering”* Read for interest in being better at hospitalityb. Best example of organic community forming around affinityc. Characteristics in which the community is grounded?5. Bounded set vs Centered Seta. Affinitiesb. “I think it’s easier to build a community around what you’re for, rather than what you’re against…I think what you’re against can rally a short-term conversation or community, but there’s only so much energy you can generate from what you’re against.”c. Identifying yourself and community coalescing around what you’re against (not enough to hold group together) “there’s only so long you can be outraged…before you have to move on to the hard work of actually building something.”d. Two components that have to be present* Center to gather around* Co-creation/co-ownership6. Themes throughouta. Privilege and advocacy* Acknowledging privilege and proactively centering othersb. Talking about what we’re against vs what we’re for* Communities can coalesce around one, but can’t be sustained without the otherc. Hospitality and community* Service and self-sacrificed. Reconciliation* Humility, healing, boundariesSummary:Discussing community building (the art of gathering) with my long time friend Darin Gemmer. We walk through Darin’s story of finding religion and then deconstructing from it’s toxicity while holding on to the value of hospitality. We talk about hospitality and co-creation as the primary ingredients for a sustainable community. Hospitality is a value that Darin has held through the best and worst of many jobs through out his career and something he believes might just help us recover from the profound separation we are experiencing as people individually and collectively.Notes/Mentions:https://www.priyaparker.com/book-art-of-gatheringhttps://jaaronsimmons.com/camping-with-kierkegaardhttps://www.warmbeach.com/https://campindianola.org/https://www.theologybeercamp2025.com/https://www.joshuagpatterson.com/ Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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Risking Our Finitude for Love
When I asked Josh what keeps him going on his journey, what enlivens him, he shared this wonderful gem.If you know him from his show, you know this sentiment is consistent.I agree wholeheartedly that Love is worth risking our finitude!Listen to the episode for more good stuff! Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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Episode 1: (Re)Thinking Patterson
Music: Dirty Gertie by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.comOutline:1. Identity Crisis in the Church2. The role of Communitya. Creating non-judgmental spaceb. The interconnectedness of Creation/ the Illusion of separation3. Wrestling with Trauma4. Theopoetics and ecological justice5. Hope and co-creation with the divinea. Love as the core of ExistenceContent warning: explicit language, discussing suicideSummary:It’s the very first Episode of Get Behind Me Jesus! A podcast for progressive Christians and “Spiritual-not-religious folks” looking to get away from the toxic ideas of a whitewashed faith and explore the more authentic person and teachings of Jesus and other religious experiences. I hope that you enjoy my conversation with my first Guest, Josh Patterson (that’s right) the host of (Re)Thinking Faith – he’s a pretty damn cool dude.We talk about a variety of things as you can see in the outline, but it really all comes down to love. Despite our individual trauma, we have come to hold a faith that is resilient and flexible – not afraid of ambiguity, but embracing the opportunities (and lure) to know the divine better and explore the interconnectedness of the cosmos.I’m thankful for Josh, his willingness to help me kick things off, and more than that, his openness and vulnerability – it’s what makes him so good at what he does. Check out the (Re)Thinking Faith podcast wherever you listen to podcasts and join us on Substack where we create additional content and community.https://substack.com/@rethinkingfaithhttps://substack.com/@getbehindmejesusAlso, check out Theology Beer Camp at https://www.theologybeercamp2025.com/Resources and Mentions:Billie Hoard - https://substack.com/@billieiswriting”Jesus and the Abolitionists” - https://www.broadleafbooks.com/store/product/9798889830818/Jesus-and-the-Abolitionists“Sex, God, and Rock 'n' Roll” - https://www.augsburgfortress.org/store/product/9781506409061/Sex-God-and-Rock-n-Roll-Catastrophes-Epiphanies-and-Sacred-Anarchieshttps://simon-critchley.com/Suicide help:Help is availableSpeak with someone today988 Suicide and Crisis LifelineLanguages: English, SpanishHours: Available 24 hourshttps://www.thetrevorproject.org/get-help/ Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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FAQ 11
Sending a call into the Universe for Rob Bell, Pete Holmes, Peter Rollins, Richard Rohr, Brian McLaren, Tripp Fuller and many many more. Each of these thinkers has pioneered deconstruction/reconstruction in various spaces and they have had an irrevocable impact on many people - including me. But whether or not you’re familiar with my guests - theologians, philosophers, educators, and regular folks all have compelling stories and questions to share. And those stories and questions about life, the universe, and everything are the reason we’re here together. (yes that’s a reference to The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.) You’re invited on this journey with me.I love to share the stories and ideas that invigorate them and hopefully inspire you. We’ll talk about books or other projects, we’ll talk about music, movies, pop culture or other things. We’ll pull the thread that connects all these things together -exploring the reasons for why they believe what they do about the Divine, creation, and our place in all this.Regardless of who is speaking or what is the topic, this space is about helping to identify the various concepts and motivations that have led you on a spiritual journey that takes you off traditional paths and into new territory.This is a podcast for the spiritually curious. It’s not about the answers per se, but about the questions and experiences in which we all have a sense of something greater, something better than what we have been taught in the systems from which we are detangling ourselves.I’m glad that you’re here.Music: Savour The Moment by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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-Deconstruction from religious tradition-What it means too be spiritual and not religious-Stories of religious trauma and exploration of its impact-Exploring and learning from indigenous spiritualities-Finding community in the midst of deconstruction/reconstruction-How music, movies, and pop culture shape our individual and collective identitiesWhile it is impossible to approach these topics unbiased, I’ll be honest about the particular experiences and specific trauma that motivate me. The goal is to help you have a sense of clarity and confidence in what you believe and what you are looking for in a community and empower you to help shape that community. Creating safe space to explore those topics and connect with the ideas of various people is just one of the primary ways we can achieve that.Music: Savour The Moment by Shane Ivers - https://www.silvermansound.com Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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FAQ 8
It’s a play on words and it makes me laugh. But it also has a meaningful and practical application. I’m sure you remember the story it’s based on. Jesus was telling his disciples that he was going to go to Jerusalem, out of the political frying [an and into the fire, where he would assuredly wind up killed. Peter tried to rebuke Jesus, telling him that he could continue to avoid this fate, that he had more good to do-that he couldn’t help anybody if he was dead. Well, Jesus flipped the script and rebuked Peter.“31And He began to teach them that the Son of Man must suffer many things and be rejected by the elders and the chief priests and the scribes, and be killed, and after three days rise from the dead. 32And He was stating the matter plainly. And Peter took Him aside and began to rebuke Him. 33But turning around and seeing His disciples, He rebuked Peter and *said, “Get behind Me, Satan; for you are not setting your mind on God’s purposes, but on man’s.”34And He summoned the crowd together with His disciples, and said to them, “If anyone wants to come after Me, he must deny himself, take up his cross, and follow Me. 35For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake and the gospel’s will save it. 36For what does it benefit a person to gain the whole world, and forfeit his soul? 37For what could a person give in exchange for his soul? 38For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will also be ashamed of him when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.”That’s a loaded passage. The gist is that in that moment Peter forgot what he had just said - that Jesus was the Christ- and the implications for that (which is a conversation in and of itself).What about being Christ meant that Jesus had to suffer? Jesus hints at it - self-denial to start.People are complicated, always have been. Peter either knew what it meant to say ‘you are the Christ’ but denied the path before Jesus, out of fear or pride…or Peter didn;t fully understand what it meant to be Christ or human for that matter and to have a finite amount of time and influence to accomplish something…or Peter, perhaps like Judas, had his own thoughts about the greatness or purpose of Christ. No doubt, whatever it was is rooted deeply in Peter’s humanity, his cultural expectations, his faith…but that’s the point.We don’t get it, because we are so often wrestling with all those things, which make up our ego, that we cannot fully understand or embrace What Jesus calls us to - not without a lot of work.So Jesus psychologically slapped the shit out of Peter. “Get behind me Satan” he said. Ouch. Jesus calls out his ‘second in command’ in front of everyone and not just to tell him that was a bad idea, but he calls him his enemy or the enemy of the Christ. Let that sink in.There is a way of thinking, which has to do with self preservation, that is fundamentally opposed to what it means to live Christ-like (or fully human).Because that’s what Christ calls us to and models for us. To love God so much (with all our soul, mind, and strength) that we love our neighbors as ourselves. This is what the real Jesus taught. This is how he lived and died.So any version of Jesus or his followers that are preoccupied with one race over another, or one country over another - whose ideas about what it means to be “clothed in righteousness” involves patriotic colors? That shit can get right behind me. I reject that Jesus. Christian nationalist Jesus is not the real deal, but the enemy. Thus, ‘Get Behind Me Jesus’ is about rebuking ideas about Jesus that don’t line up with the Jesus and God of the Scriptures. I know that’s a lot, but if you’re here and still struggling with those ideas about God and Jesus and the Church, then I hope to convince you of that in the course of this podcast…or more realistically, if you’re here trying to figure ‘what now'?” because you’ve already rejected that kind of faith, then I hope we’ll have fun together exploring authentic faith and community.Get Behind Me Jesus has positive spins too.You ever have to throw hands to protect someone? You’d put them behind you because their precious to you and you’re willing to do what needs to be done, even if it means getting your hands dirty (or in my case taking a beating). Now, fighting is the opposite of the way of Jesus, but its about the imagery. I’m not advocating violence, I’m advocating the same kind of ferocity of spirit in defense of the truth that often is misdirected in defense of a lie.Or if you’ve played a team sport, you know you have to protect the player with the ball and the plan/skills to make the play. You do your part to make a lane and defend.Or if you’re stranded in a place and you have little to no direction or fuel, you might need someone to get behind you and push.The title is like a ‘footprints in the sand’ kind of thing, except it makes more sense. Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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FAQs 5, 6, and 7
Value Proposition: Every episode will share a story of someone like you and help you to connect to a community that values diversity and inclusion. This podcast is about cultivating a space where you can explore ideas, engage with people, and find and connect with a community where you can be your authentic self.The tone of the podcast is conversational, but I hope to interview academic, professional, musical, and everyday guests with a variety of experiences and expertise - all with goal of exploring spirituality from their perspectives. I hope this will resonate with you and help you to be bold in seeking out the ideas and people who make sense rather than feeling unfulfilled and trapped in a particular expression. I want to encourage you to explore your doubt and faith, they are two sides of the same coin, to explore other traditions and expressions - finding and pursuing whatever is good. As Rev. Dr. John Thatamanil says“The only form of multiple religious participation that Jesus is on record as opposing is the simultaneous worship of God and Mammon.”As far as releasing content every week - that doesn’t really depend on you. I am so excited to be doing this and I am having fun, so things are flowing and I’m publishing as much as I can. I guess if I ever stop having fun, this thing will start to slow down. But I don’t see that happening for a very long time…because I’m curious and there’s plenty of things about which to be curious. Cheers! Get full access to Get Behind Me Jesus at getbehindmejesus.substack.com/subscribe
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
This is a progressive spiritual podcast aimed at deconstructing Christians and spiritual-not-religious folks exploring the more authentic person and teaching of Jesus and various spiritual traditions that challenge Western/White centered ideologies. The show is designed to move beyond surface-level "hot takes" to explore the messy, beautiful process of deconstructing and rebuilding faith and community. getbehindmejesus.substack.com
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