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GET REAL with Jack & Cindy
by Cindy Morrison
Welcome to GET REAL with Jack and Cindy – Your Ultimate Real Estate Playbook! Are you ready to dive deep into the world of real estate? Whether you're a first-time homebuyer, a seasoned investor, or a real estate agent looking to up your game, GET REAL with Jack and Cindy is your go-to podcast for everything real estate! REALTORS® Jack Wallace and Cindy Morrison pull back the curtain on the real estate industry. We're here to share the unvarnished truth about what it's really like to buy, sell or invest in real estate. From new construction insights to the loan lowdown and from decoding the market to how to get into real estate flipping/investing, we're going to spill all of the tea. For the Agents out there? This is your chance to learn more about the biz and specific topics that can turbocharge your career. GET REAL with Jack and Cindy isn't just a podcast; it's a community for anyone and everyone interested in real estate. We're here to ma
Episodes
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GET REAL: The Bank Says You Can Afford it… But Can You REALLY? (S3:E14)
🏡 The bank says you can afford it… but can you REALLY afford it? This week on GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we’re talking about one of the biggest mistakes homebuyers can make: assuming the amount you’re approved for is automatically the amount you should spend. Because your mortgage payment is…
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GET REAL: What If You Could Take Your 3% Mortgage With You? (S3:E13)
Today, Jack & Cindy are tackling an idea that could shake up the housing market: the portable mortgage.Imagine buying a home with a great interest rate, then being able to take that mortgage rate with you when you move. Sounds pretty good, right? With millions of homeowners sitting on…
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GET REAL: Why Did My Mortgage Payment Go Up If I Have A Fixed Interest Rate? (S3:E12)
Why did my mortgage payment go up if I have a fixed interest rate? It's one of the most common questions homeowners ask, and the answer surprises a lot of people. In this episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we're breaking down why your monthly house payment can increase even when your interest...
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GET REAL: Real Estate Scams Targeting Buyers, Sellers and Agents (S3:E11)
Real estate scams are getting smarter, more sophisticated and harder to spot. This week on GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we’re breaking down the scams targeting buyers, sellers AND real estate agents. From fake listings and wire fraud to vacant land scams and people pretending to be someone they’re...
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GET REAL: The 2026 Parade of Homes And Other Things Going On (S3:E10)
The latest episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy is out now, and we're coming to you from one of Envision Homes' stunning Parade of Homes entries in Sunset Hills in Tulsa! This week, we're talking all things 2026 Parade of Homes, featuring 100 homes across the Tulsa area and why it's one of the...
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GET REAL: To Stage Or Not To Stage? (S3:E9)
It's time for Episode 9 of Season 3 of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy! This week we're talking about staging. What is it really... and how do you do it the right way?Here's the thing. Designing your house for living and staging your house to sell are two completely different things. The goal isn't...
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GET REAL: Are We Really In A Housing Shortage? (S3:E8)
Everyone keeps hearing the same headline: “There’s a housing shortage.” But is that actually true… or is the real story more complicated? In the latest episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we take a closer look at what’s really happening in today’s housing market. Are there truly not enough...
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GET REAL: Is All Luxury Created Equal? (S3:E7)
Is all luxury created equal? Not even close. In this episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we’re breaking down one of the biggest misconceptions in real estate… that luxury is just about price. Spoiler alert: it’s not. We’re talking about what actually defines a luxury property, why some...
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GET REAL: Square Footage Surprises and Roofing Relief (S3:E6)
We’re flipping the script on square footage! In Season 3’s newest episode, we’re unpacking why the “bigger is better” trend is finally getting a reality check and what today’s buyers actually care about now. But that’s not all… if your dream home has a roof over 10 years old, this could impact…
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GET REAL: Is Using AI for Photos and Such Cheating for Real Estate Agents? (S3:E5)
On the latest episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, Cindy and Jack dive into one of the hottest topics in real estate right now… AI. Is it cheating if you use technology to show what a home could look like with a different paint color? What about using AI to stage a vacant house so buyers can...
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GET REAL: Less Ego. More Escrow! (S3:E4)
In this episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we’re fresh off teaching agents at our brokerages in Tulsa and OKC and sharing the biggest lightbulb moments we saw in the room. We break down what we jokingly call the Ozempic of real estate… the shortcuts agents are chasing to lose the “weight” of...
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GET REAL: 2026 Real Estate Hot Topics - Part Two (S3:E3)
If you thought Part 1 was good… buckle up. We had so much to unpack about real estate in 2026 that we had to split this conversation into two parts — and this is Part 2. On this episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we’re diving into the hot topics everyone is running into right now, including:...
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GET REAL: Here are the HOT Real Estate Topics in 2026 - Part One (S3:E2)
It’s time for another episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, and this one was too good to keep short. We’re diving into the hottest real estate topics we’re seeing play out right now and there was so much to unpack, we had to split it into two parts. In Part One, we get real about sellers who…
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GET REAL: Why We Do A Podcast & Keeping New Year’s Goals (S3:E1)
🎙️ We’re back… and yep, it feels good to be behind the mic again. Season Three of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy starts with why this podcast matters so much to us. Not just as real estate professionals, but as people who genuinely care about Tulsa and doing this business the right way. We also get...
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GET REAL: Hot Topics for 2025 Including 50 Yr & Portable Mortgages (S2:E22)
We’re wrapping up 2025, so you know we had to talk about the stuff everyone’s whispering about but not of a lot of people are really explaining. Yep… 50-year mortgages, portable mortgages, and all the “Is this good or is this going to bite us?” questions buyers and sellers keep throwing at us. In...
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GET REAL: Crafting Tulsa Style with Kent Oellien (S2:E21)
On this episode, we sit down with Tulsa design icon Kent Oellien and get the inside scoop on how he works his magic. Kent talks about some of his favorite projects, the trends he’s loving right now, and why every space he touches ends up with its own personality. Nothing about his work is cookie...
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GET REAL: Worried Your Credit Will Hold You Back From Buying A Home? Let’s Fix That! (S2:E20)
If you’ve ever wondered whether your credit or debt-to-income ratio (DTI) is quietly sabotaging your dream of owning a home… this one’s for you. In this episode, we’re breaking down DTI in a way that actually makes sense. No jargon. No confusing charts. Just real talk about how lenders look at…
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GET REAL: How the Government Shutdown Is Shaking Up Real Estate (S2:E19)
How the Government Shutdown Is Shaking Up Real Estate The government shutdown isn’t just about politics — it’s hitting the housing market, too. In this week’s episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we’re breaking down what it really means for buyers, sellers, and agents across the country. If...
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GET REAL: Are Open Houses Worth It for Sellers, Buyers & Agents? YES! (S2:E18)
Open Houses — Why They Still Matter Most homes aren’t technically sold from an open house…but that doesn’t mean they’re not powerful. In this episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we pull back the curtain on why open houses are still a crucial tool for buyers and agents right now. National stats...
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GET REAL: Buyer Broker Agreements - One Year After the NAR Settlement (S2:E17)
It’s been a year since the NAR settlement reshaped how REALTORS® work with buyers—and the industry is still adjusting. In this episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we unpack what’s really changed (and what hasn’t). From buyer broker agreements to compensation conversations, we break down what...
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GET REAL: Guess What?!! Interest Rates Are Going Down And What That Means For YOU (S2:E16)
Think waiting for the Fed’s official announcement will save you money? You might be waiting yourself right out of the perfect house. 📉 Mortgage rates are already dipping ahead of next week’s Fed decision, and smart buyers are jumping in before the competition floods back into the market. We…
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GET REAL: The Price Is Right... Or Is It?? (S2:E15)
After the wild ride of 2020–2023, many sellers still think their homes are worth more than today’s market says they are. In this episode, we break down how to price your home the right way so it actually sells and doesn’t sit collecting dust on Zillow. From understanding buyer psychology to…
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GET REAL: Back in the Saddle - Broadway, Real Estate & Life Lessons (S2:E14)
Welcome back from summer break—we’ve missed the mic, and clearly, you missed our banter. In this special catch-up convo, Jack brings that Broadway flair and we dig into what Kristin Chenoweth and he have been up to this summer. Meanwhile, Cindy is playing the part of Nurse Ratched... hmmm, sound...
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GET REAL: TRR Trouble? Here’s What Buyers, Sellers & Agents Need to Know (S2:E13)
Time to GET REAL about repairs, because this episode pulls back the curtain on one of the most misunderstood parts of the deal: the TRR period—that’s Treatment, Replace, or Repair for all you non-contract nerds. Jack & Cindy break down how this works in Oklahoma (hint: it's generally a 10-day...
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GET REAL: Negotiations Are About MORE Than Price (S2:E12)
Negotiation Secrets—It’s Not Always About the Benjamins! Think you’ve gotta drop top dollar to snag your dream home? Think again! 💰 In today’s episode of GET REAL with Jack and Cindy, we’re lifting the lid on all the sneaky-smart, no-extra-cash-needed ways to sweet-talk a seller into choosing…
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GET REAL: If You Want To Buy A Home... THIS Podcast Is For You With A Special Surprise (S2:E11)
Season 2, Episode 11: The Home Buyer Class You’ve Been Waiting For! Ready to buy a home—whether it’s your first or your forever? We’ve got a surprise just for you. This week, Jack & Cindy are pulling back the curtain on something we’ve been working on behind the scenes… 🥁 Drumroll, please… we’ve...
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GET REAL: How Do You Value Your Home To Truly Sell (S2:E10)
Want top dollar for your home? It’s not just about granite countertops and curb appeal—it's about strategy. One wrong price, and your house could sit while others fly off the market. This week on GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we’re pulling back the curtain on how to really price your home to sell.…
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GET REAL: How is the Tulsa Housing Marketing Doing... REALLY? (S2:E9)
Think the housing market is crashing? Not so fast—especially if you're in Tulsa! In this week's episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we're breaking down what's really happening in Tulsa real estate, beyond the national media's gloom-and-doom headlines. Is now a good time to buy, sell, or…
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GET REAL: The Closing Crew - Our Latest Adventure in Real Estate (S2:E8)
🎙️ New Episode: "The Closing Crew – Why We Believe There’s Enough Success for Everyone" In this week’s episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we’re pulling back the curtain on something brand new at Chinowth & Cohen — The Closing Crew. This mentoring movement is all about community over...
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GET REAL: The Secret Sauce to First-Time Homebuying (S2:E7)
Ever feel like owning your own home is just a dream, or maybe it feels so overwhelming you don't even know where to start? This episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy is your ultimate guide to first-time homebuying! Here's the kicker—you don't actually have to be a literal first-timer to snag some...
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GET REAL: How To Use AI To Better Serve Clients & Get MORE Business (S2:E6)
🎙️𝐀𝐈 𝐢𝐬 𝐘𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐍𝐞𝐰 𝐁𝐁𝐅 (𝐁𝐄𝐒𝐓 𝐁𝐮𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐬𝐬 𝐅𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐝)! ✨ Hey agents & biz owners, ever wished for a coach who's awake at 2 AM, doesn't charge a penny, and can supercharge your marketing? Meet your new bestie: AI! 🤖 This week on 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐉𝐚𝐜𝐤 &…
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Hope is NOT a Strategy: Social Media That Brings You Business (S2:E5)
🚨 Agents & small business owners: If your social media plan is just “posting and hoping”… we need to fix that TODAY. In this episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we’re spilling the tea on what actually drives business—and what’s just wasting your time. No fluff, no generic advice, just real...
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GET REAL: Encore! Backstage with Kristin Chenoweth: Broadway Dreams & KC BBC 2025 (S2:E4)
🚨BIG NEWS, THEATER KIDS (and parents of future Broadway stars!)🚨 We’re bringing back one of our most show-stopping episodes of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy—our unforgettable chat with the one and only Kristin Chenoweth! 🌟🎤 Why now? Because it’s officially KC Broadway Boot Camp application…
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GET REAL: Botox, Beauty & Banter—Oh My! with Special Guest Chera Kimiko (S2:E3)
💉✨ Botox, Beauty & Banter—Oh My! ✨💉 In this episode of GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we’re stepping beyond real estate and getting real about something a little different—putting your best face forward in 2025. Whether you swear by a little refresh or you’re just curious about what’s out there...
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GET REAL: The Secret to an Organized Home (S2:E2)
Ready to kick the clutter and get your home in order for 2025? 🏡✨ This week, we're talking all things home organization with Katie, the mastermind behind CLEAR—the go-to store for storage solutions that actually work. Cindy’s making it her mission to finally get organized this year (wish her…
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GET REAL: What Does Healthy Eating REALLY Look Like? (S2:E1)
𝐒𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐨𝐧 𝟐 𝐨𝐟 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐉𝐚𝐜𝐤 & 𝐂𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐲 𝐢𝐬 𝐇𝐄𝐑𝐄! 𝐓𝐨𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝐢𝐭'𝐬 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐚𝐛𝐨𝐮𝐭 𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐡𝐞𝐚𝐥𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐞𝐫 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐛𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐬𝐨𝐦𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐦𝐨𝐧 𝐦𝐢𝐬𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐩𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬. New year, new season, and we’re kicking things off with a fresh take on...
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GET REAL: The Real Deal On End-Of-Year Tax Tips For Real Estate Agents (S1:E32)
Episode 32 is here to help you keep more of YOUR money! 💸 We’re wrapping up 2024 with a bang by bringing in tax attorney/CPA Kathy Burch from Horizon CPA. We’re talking a lot about real estate agents, but these money-saving tips apply to anyone who owns their own business. If you’re a business...
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GET REAL: Roscoe's Resilience: A Tail of Hope and Healing (S1:E31)
🎙️🐾 In honor of GIVING TUESDAY, we're posting a little early this week... pulling at your heartstrings and shining a light on true resilience. Meet Roscoe, the incredible dog with a spirit like no other. 🐶💛 Abandoned and left severely injured after someone shot his front legs, Roscoe's story…
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GET REAL: Thankfulness, TV, and Top Takeaways: A Real Estate Thanksgiving Feast (S1:E30)
Thankfulness, TV, and Top Takeaways: A Real Estate Thanksgiving Feast 🚨🎙️ Thanksgiving Special Alert! 🎙️🚨 This week on GET REAL with Jack & Cindy, we're serving up a hearty helping of gratitude as we reflect on our first year of podcasting—the highs, the laughs, and the moments that made it…
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GET REAL: Is NOW The Right Time To Buy and Sell Your Home? (S1:E29)
Is NOW the Right Time to Buy or Sell? You've heard the buzz on social media—THIS is the busiest time of year for real estate! But is it really? In our latest "GET REAL with Jack & Cindy" episode, we break down the data, bust the myths, and (drumroll, please )… REVEAL the secret to finding the...
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GET REAL: Breaking News! A New Home Warranty To Consider & You Heard It Here FIRST (S1:E28)
🎙️ NEW EPISODE ALERT! 🎙️ Ready to get REAL about home warranties? 🏡💡 You think you know what a home warranty is... but hold on, because Jack & Cindy are dropping something NEW and it's going to shake up the game! 🤯 We’re diving into the basics—what's a home warranty, who needs it, and why.…
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GET REAL: How is the NAR Settlement Changing the Game for Agents? (S1:E27)
🎙️ 𝐇𝐨𝐰 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐍𝐀𝐑 𝐒𝐞𝐭𝐭𝐥𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐂𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐆𝐚𝐦𝐞 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐥 𝐄𝐬𝐭𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐀𝐠𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐬? In this can't-miss episode of *GET REAL with Jack & Cindy*, we're sitting down with Taylor Chinowth—an owner and attorney at Chinowth & Cohen—to uncover how the recent…
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GET REAL: Hosts Jack & Cindy Are Getting Real About Life (S1:E26)
We’re going *off script* this week on *GET REAL with Jack & Cindy* and spilling the tea on *everything*. From the highs that make you smile to the struggles we all face, we're diving into the good, the bad, and yep, the ugly parts of life. It’s not just real estate this time—it's *real life*.…
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GET REAL: What It REALLY Takes to Sell Commercial Real Estate w/ Guest Lee Cohen (S1:E25)
Thinking about jumping from residential to commercial real estate for a bigger paycheck? 💸 Not so fast! In this episode, we sit down with top broker Lee Cohen, who’s here to give us the REAL skinny on what it’s like to sell commercial properties. Spoiler alert: it’s not for everyone! 🏢 Lee…
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GET REAL: Unlocking Thousands in Savings! Insider Financing Secrets with Nikki Pauly (S1:E24)
🚨 New episode alert! 🚨 This week on the "GET REAL with Jack & Cindy" podcast, we’re diving into one of the most crucial parts of the home-buying journey: financing. We sat down with Nikki Pauly from Home Team Lending, and let us tell you, she’s sharing insider secrets that could save you...
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GET REAL: Today's Guest is Tulsan Mat Maxwell, bass guitarist for Luke Combs (S1:E23)
🎤𝐂𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐄𝐝𝐢𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐀𝐥𝐞𝐫𝐭!🎤 After our incredible chat with the one and only Kristen Chenoweth, we're back with another star-studded episode of 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐉𝐚𝐜𝐤 & 𝐂𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐲! This time, we're diving into the world of country music with 𝐌𝐚𝐭 𝐌𝐚𝐱𝐰𝐞𝐥𝐥,...
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GET REAL: What the Appraisal?!! What Is It & Why? (S1:E22)
🎙️ 𝐆𝐄𝐓 𝐑𝐄𝐀𝐋 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐉𝐚𝐜𝐤 & 𝐂𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐲: 𝐄𝐩𝐢𝐬𝐨𝐝𝐞 𝟐𝟐 - 𝐖𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐀𝐩𝐩𝐫𝐚𝐢𝐬𝐚𝐥?!! Have you ever found yourself scratching your head over appraisals in real estate? Fear not! In this episode, Jack and I are here to demystify the appraisal process and answer all your...
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GET REAL: What the NAR Settlement Means to YOU! (S1:E21)
The NAR Settlement & What It Means for YOU! Ever heard the phrase, "Change is the only constant"? Well, buckle up because the real estate world is shaking things up! In episode 21 of "GET REAL with Jack & Cindy," we dive deep into the NAR settlement and its impact on buyers, sellers, and agents....
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GET REAL - Navigating the NAR Settlement & What Has Changed (S1:E20)
Episode 20: Navigating the NAR Settlement and New Document Requirements Get ready to dive deep into one of the most crucial updates affecting real estate professionals today! On this episode of "GET REAL with Jack & Cindy," we bring you an exclusive conversation with GTAR President Cindy Rogers....
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GET REAL - Shery Chinowth has Advice for New Agents & Tackles Hot Topics Pt 2 (S1:E19)
It's time for Part Two of our "GET REAL with Jack & Cindy" podcast featuring the amazing Sheryl Chinowth! In this episode, Sheryl dives even deeper, sharing invaluable advice for new agents and seasoned pros looking to up their game. She opens up about her journey from top agent to founding the...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to GET REAL with Jack and Cindy – Your Ultimate Real Estate Playbook!
Are you ready to dive deep into the world of real estate? Whether you're a first-time homebuyer, a seasoned investor, or a real estate agent looking to up your game, GET REAL with Jack and Cindy is your go-to podcast for everything real estate!
REALTORS® Jack Wallace and Cindy Morrison pull back the curtain on the real estate industry. We're here to share the unvarnished truth about what it's really like to buy, sell or invest in real estate. From new construction insights to the loan lowdown and from decoding the market to how to get into real estate flipping/investing, we're going to spill all of the tea.
For the Agents out there? This is your chance to learn more about the biz and specific topics that can turbocharge your career.
GET REAL with Jack and Cindy isn't just a podcast; it's a community for anyone and everyone interested in real estate. We're here to ma
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Welcome to GET REAL with Jack and Cindy – Your Ultimate Real Estate Playbook! Are you ready to dive deep into the world of real estate? Whether you're a first-time homebuyer, a seasoned investor, or a real estate agent looking to up your game, GET REAL with Jack and Cindy is your go-to podcast for...
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