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GeTtin' SALTy Podcast
by Greenberg Traurig, LLP
GeTtin' SALTy is a podcast hosted by Greenberg Traurig, focusing on state and local tax policy, legislative, regulatory and litigation updates. The GT SALT Practice assists companies in need of state and local tax counsel whether in a single location or multiple locations throughout the United States. With the largest footprint of any law firm in the United States, the SALT Practice has attorneys in 16 of the firm's domestic offices, including California, Colorado, Delaware, Illinois, Florida, New York, Oregon, and Texas. The firm's breadth of experience across the full SALT spectrum allows GT to offer a wide range of services, including counseling and controversy. The team also regularly partners with the firm's nationally recognized Government Law and Policy Practice to help shape the tax law which affects our clients most.
Episodes
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Is Public Law 86-272 Still Relevant? Joyce, Finnigan, and New State Tax Challenges
On this episode of Greenberg Traurig's GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay and guest John Ormonde explore recent developments involving Public Law 86-272 and the limits it may place on state income-taxing authority. They explain the difference between Joyce and Finnigan apportionment...
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EPR Litigation Update: Oregon Court Upholds Packaging Law as Challenges Continue
Host Nikki Dobay welcomes GT colleague Madeline Orlando back on the GeTtin' SALTy podcast to discuss the latest litigation over state packaging extended producer responsibility (EPR) laws. They examine an Oregon federal court's decision rejecting facial challenges based on the Commerce Clause…
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California's New Digital Tax: Navigating Sales Tax on SaaS and Software
California is expanding its sales tax base to include certain prewritten computer software, whether downloaded, transferred electronically, or accessed remotely through SaaS platforms. In this episode of Greenberg Traurig's GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay welcomes GT colleague Samantha...
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New York City's Pied-a-Terre Tax: Rollout Challenges, Constitutional Questions, and a Growing National Trend
In this podcast episode of Gettin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Greenberg Traurig colleague Glenn Newman, a New York City tax attorney with experience as a former deputy commissioner of finance and president of both the New York City Tax Appeals Tribunal and the New York City Tax...
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Maryland's Digital Advertising Tax Struck Down: The Tax Court Weighs In After Six Years of Litigation
In this episode of GT's GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay and guest DeAndré Morrow break down three landmark decisions issued by the Maryland Tax Court on August 14, 2026, finding Maryland's first-in-the-nation digital advertising tax unconstitutional on multiple grounds, including the...
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Washington's B&O Tax: Time for a Change?
In this episode of the GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay welcomes back Washington State Representative April Berg, Chair of the House Finance Committee, for a wide-ranging conversation on Washington state tax policy. Their conversation focuses on Rep. Berg's recently released proposal to...
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The Real Cost of Eliminating Property Taxes
In this episode of the GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki E. Dobay is joined by Jared Walczak, Senior Fellow at the Tax Foundation and founder of Walczak Policy Consulting, to take a look at the growing movement to reduce or eliminate real property taxes across the United States. The conversation...
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Mid-Year SALT Legislative Roundup: Digital Ads, Data Brokers, and the States to Watch in 2026
In this mid-year check-in episode of the GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Morgan Scarboro, Vice President of Tax and Policy at MultiState Associates, for a wide-ranging conversation on state and local tax legislation heading into the second half of 2026. Morgan and Nikki…
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California Dreamin' of More Taxes: Budget Surprises, Taxation of SaaS, and a Crowded Ballot
In this episode of the GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Peter Blocker, Vice President of Tax Policy at the California Taxpayers Association, for a timely discussion about the California legislative landscape. Their conversation covers two developments: the recently passed...
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Smithfield, Apportionment, and the Limits of Single Sales Factor: A Discussion of California's Most-Watched SALT Cases
In the latest GeTtin' SALTy podcast episode, host Nikki Dobay welcomes new Greenberg Traurig colleague John Ormonde, a shareholder in the firm's State and Local Tax Practice. The centerpiece of the episode is a detailed inside look at the Smithfield Foods case, which John identifies as one of the...
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Leading the MTC: A Conversation with New Executive Director Keith Richardson
This episode of GeTtin' SALTy features an introductory conversation with Keith Richardson, the newly appointed Executive Director of the Multistate Tax Commission (MTC). Host Nikki Dobay explores Keith's unconventional path to state and local tax administration, tracing his career from community...
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California Court of Appeal Rejects FTB's Unitary Business Theory for Individuals in Garcia-Rojas: A Win for Non-Resident Sole Proprietors
In this episode of the GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Greenberg Traurig colleagues Brad Marsh and Jennifer Vincent to discuss a significant recent victory in the California Court of Appeal - First Appellate District: Xavier Garcia-Rojas v. Franchise Tax Board. The case...
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AB 1790: California's Push to Repeal the Water's Edge Election - Loophole or Sound Tax Policy?
In this episode of Greenberg Traurig's GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Peter Blocker, Vice President of Policy at the California Taxpayers Association, and Alan Pasetsky, Owner and Founder of Tax Policy LLC, for an in-depth discussion of California Assembly Bill 1790 - a...
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Data Centers and the Sales Tax Misnomer
In this episode of the GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Jared Walczak, Senior Fellow at the Tax Foundation and founder of the Walczak Policy Consulting Group, for a focused discussion on the evolving state and local tax treatment of data centers. Jared explains how many states...
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Washington's Historic Session: A New Income Tax, a Farewell to the Penny, and What Comes Next
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, podcast host Nikki Dobay welcomes back Representative April Berg of Washington's 44th District for a deep dive into the 2026 landmark 60-day legislative session in Olympia. Rep. Berg walks through the passage of Washington's new tax - a 9.9% levy on individual...
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Oregon's 2026 Short Session Debrief: Transportation, Conformity, and the Politics of Tax Policy
In this post-session episode of the GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Jeff Newgard of Peak Policy for a comprehensive debrief on Oregon's 2026 short legislative session. Despite being limited to just 35 days, the session tackled a high volume of significant issues. Jeff and…
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2026 Legislative Roundup: State Budgets, Data Center Tax Trends & Digital Tax Developments
In this episode of the GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay welcomes back Morgan Scarboro from MultiState Associates for a lively discussion on the hottest topics shaping state and local tax policy in the 2026 legislative sessions. They take listeners on a round robin tour of key...
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Premiums, Policy, and Clarity: Navigating Washington's Insurance Tax Debate
In this episode of the GeTtin' SALTy Podcast, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Jim Shea (Senior Vice President and Chief Tax Officer at Prudential) and John Mangan (Vice President and Deputy of State Relations at the American Council of Life Insurers) to break down the complex topic of insurance...
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Oregon's 2026 Legislative Session: Transportation Turbulence, Tax Conformity, and What's Next
In this episode of the GeTtin' SALTy podcast, Nikki Dobay welcomes back Jeff Newgard, Executive Director and Principal of Peak Policy, to discuss Oregon's 2026 legislative session. As lawmakers convene for a fast-paced 35-day session in an election year, Nikki and Jeff break down the political…
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State Tax Revenues in 2026: Slow Growth, Flat Taxes, and Fiscal Uncertainty with Lucy Dadayan
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay welcomes back Lucy Dadayan, Principal Research Associate at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center, as they kickoff the first podcast episode of 2026. Together, they unpack where state revenues stand after a turbulent 2025 and look ahead to what's...
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GeTtin' SALTy 2025 Year in Review: OB3, Digital Ad Taxes, California Surprises & SALT Policy Trends
Join host Nikki Dobay for the 2025 GeTtin' SALTy Podcast Year-In-Review, where she revisits some of the biggest state and local tax (SALT) policy stories of the year. This episode recaps key moments, starting with the sweeping "One Big Beautiful Bill" (OB3) and its impact on state tax conformity,...
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Year-End SALT Wrap-Up: State Revenue Trends, OB3 Conformity, and What's Ahead for 2026
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay welcomes back Jared Walczak, Vice President of State Tax Projects at the Tax Foundation, for a wide-ranging discussion on the biggest state and local tax (SALT) policy developments of 2025. Together, Nikki and Jared recap the fiscal health of the...
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From Railroad Tracks to SALT Stacks: Welcoming Nicki Howard to GT's State & Local Tax Team
In this engaging episode of Gettin' Salty, host Nikki Dobay sits down with the newest member of Greenberg Traurig's SALT team, Nicki Howard. Nicki shares her journey into the world of tax law, from her early days at UPS to her in-house leadership at CSX, and now her transition to private…
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A Conversation with COST: Practical Challenges and Policy Considerations for Taxing the Digital Economy
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay welcomes Fred Nicely, Senior Tax Counsel at the Council On State Taxation (COST), for a discussion on the complexities of taxing the digital economy at the state and local level. Fred shares his unique journey into the world of SALT and draws on...
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Unpacking California's Retroactive Tax Law: Litigation, Standing, and What's Next
In this GeTtin' SALTy episode, Nikki Dobay hosts Shail Shah (Greenberg Traurig) and Joseph Bishop-Henchman (National Taxpayers Union Foundation) to break down the latest developments in NTU's case, challenging the constitutionality of California's 2024 budget changes. NTU's legal challenged…
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California Property Tax Update: Unpacking the Olympic & Georgia Partners Decision
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay welcomes back Greenberg Traurig Shareholder Colin Fraser to break down the California Supreme Court's recent decision in Olympic & Georgia Partners. They address the complexities of property tax assessments for hotels and other businesses…
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Washington's Digital Ad Tax: Bad Policy or the Future of Taxing Services
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Washington State Representative April Berg and leading tax scholar Professor Richard Pomp for a discussion of Washington's sweeping new sales tax on services, including the controversial digital advertising tax under Senate Bill…
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Rethinking Audit Relationships in State & Local Tax
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Breen Schiller, shareholder in Greenberg Traurig's Chicago office, and Zachary Wyatt, Legislative Director at the Missouri Department of Revenue. Together, they dive into a crucial topic in state and local tax: how agencies and…
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California SALT Update: AG Opinion Shakes Up OTA Authority, Conformity, and Litigation Looms
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay is joined by fellow Greenberg Traurig shareholder Shail Shah to discuss the latest developments on the California state tax front. They start with a breakdown of the Attorney General opinion affirming the Office of Tax Appeals' (OTA) authority to...
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EPR Lawsuits & SALT Surprises: Compliance Season in Oregon, New State Laws, and the Future of Extended Producer Responsibility
In the latest episode of the GeTtin' SALTy & Beyond podcast, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Greenberg Traurig colleague Madeline Orlando for a deeper dive into the evolving world of Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) laws and their impact on state policy landscape. The duo recaps major...
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Back in the SALT: Breen Schiller on Returning to Private Practice and Navigating New Illinois Tax Challenges
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki E. Dobay welcomes Shareholder Breen Schiller both to the podcast and to Greenberg Traurig State and Local Tax (SALT) Practice. Breen shares her unique path into the world of SALT, her recent experiences, and what inspired her to return to private...
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The One Big Beautiful Bill Act's (OBBBA) Big Impacts: Federal Tax Changes and What they Mean for States
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay welcomes back Jared Walczak, Vice President of State Projects at the Tax Foundation, for a discussion of the recently passed federal tax legislation, the One Big Beautiful Bill Act. Nikki and Jared break down the high-level changes made to the...
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California Property Tax Update: The Supreme Court Tackles the Local Tax Subsidy Case
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay is joined by fellow Greenberg Traurig shareholders Brad Marsh and Colin Fraser for a comprehensive catch-up on California property tax developments as Q2 2025 draws to a close. The discussion covers key legislative updates, including the…
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One Big, Beautiful Bill: Federal Tax Changes and State Fiscal Shakeups – Midyear SALT Update with Morgan Scarboro
Gettin' SALTy podcast host Nikki E. Dobay welcomes back Morgan Scarboro, Vice President at Multistate Associates, for a lively midyear check-in on the dynamic world of state and local tax (SALT) policy. Kicking off with a discussion of the much-anticipated federal tax bill—the "One Big, Beautiful...
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GeTtin' SALTy & Beyond: Exploring Extended Producer Responsibility Laws
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy & Beyond, Nikki Dobay is joined by GT attorney Madeline Orlando for a conversation about the emerging landscape of Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) laws. EPR laws are State and Local Tax (SALT)-adjacent, as new fees are being imposed on producers of…
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Catching up on 2025 SALT Legislative Trends with Jared Walczak of the Tax Foundation
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay welcomes frequent guest Jared Walczak, Vice President of State Projects at the Tax Foundation, to discuss the whirlwind 2025 legislative sessions. From income tax rate reductions in Kansas, Kentucky, and Montana to the capital gains surtaxes in...
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Overview of Washington's 2025 Legislative Session: Tax Policy Challenges and Business Impacts
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Max Martin, Director of Tax and Fiscal Policy at the Association of Washington Business, to discuss Washington's legislative session and its implications for state tax policy. With COVID relief funds dwindling and a projected budget...
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Sine Die: Maryland Legislative Session Wrap-up
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, Nikki Dobay and DeAndré Morrow dive into the Maryland's legislative session, which adjourned this week. Specifically, they unpack key tax provisions that were proposed and ultimately passed. From new personal income tax brackets targeting high earners to the...
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Conformity—Policy or Politics?
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay dives into the complex and timely topic of tax conformity with two state tax guests, Shail Shah, Greenberg Traurig shareholder based in San Francisco, and Jeff Newgard, President and CEO of Peak Policy. The discussion centers on the challenges…
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State Fiscal Trends and Challenges: Uncertainty Ahead
In this episode of GeTin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay discusses state tax revenue trends and challenges with Lucy Dadayan, principal research associate at the Urban-Brookings Tax Policy Center. The conversation highlights the mixed fiscal performance of states in 2024, including modest overall…
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Texas Legislative Insights, Politics, and State Tax Priorities
In this episode of Gettin' Salty, host Nikki Dobay is joined by colleagues Elizabeth Hadley and Catalina Baron from Greenberg Traurig's Texas offices to discuss the ongoing Texas legislative session and its implications on state and local tax policy. Elizabeth is a member of Greenberg Traurig's...
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Oregon's Tax Landscape: Revenue, Legislation, and Local Changes with Jeff Newgard
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Jeff Newgard, president of Peak Policy, to discuss Oregon's 2025 legislative session. They explore Oregon's revenue outlook fueled by personal income tax gains and the expiration implications of federal tax provisions. They delve…
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2025 SALT Outlook with MultiState's Joe Crosby
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay sits down with Joe Crosby, CEO of MultiState Associates, to explore the complex landscape of state and local tax policy in 2025. With a new federal administration and shifting economic forecasts, states are facing both potential opportunities and...
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California 2025 SALT Outlook
In the latest episode of the GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay and guest Shail Shah, both shareholders at Greenberg Traurig, discuss the complexities of California's state and local tax landscape as 2025 begins. The episode kicks off with a surprising announcement from Governor Gavin…
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2024 GeTin' SALTy Year-End Wrap Up & Listener Appreciation Award
In this episode of GeTin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay takes us back to some of our listeners' favorites and awards the inaugural Listener Appreciation Award! Nikki revisits highlights from some of the top podcast episodes of the year, which include snippets from episodes with Nancy Prosser [Ep. 21],...
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A Conversation about the Lone Star State
In this episode of GeTin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Catalina (Cat) Baron, an associate in Greenberg Traurig's Houston office, for a big old conversation about Texas state tax isues. Cat and Nikki discuss the Comptroller's recent amendments to the data processing regulation; what is...
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Post-Election Conversation about State Elections
In this episode of the GeTtin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Morgan Scarboro, Vice President of Tax Policy and Economics at MultiState Associates, for a post-election discussion about state legislative and governors' results and the potential impacts of those results on state tax...
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A Conversation about State Tax Ballot Initiative Results
In this episode of the GeTin' SALTy podcast, host Nikki Dobay is once again joined by Jared Walczak, Vice President of Special Projects at the Tax Foundation, to discuss the state tax ballot initiatives results from the Nov. 5, 2024 election. Jared and Nikki discuss the outcome and get into the...
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A Conversation with Professor Pomp about Fair Apportionment
In this episode of Gettin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay welcomes distinguished professor Richard Pomp (University of Connecticut School of Law) for a discussion about the fair apportionment prong of the Complete Auto test. Specifically, the two discuss the fair apportionment of use taxes levied on...
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A Conversation about Congressional Action Post-Wayfair
In this episode of GeTtin' SALTy, host Nikki Dobay is joined by Joe Bishop-Henchman, Executive Vice President at the National Taxpayers Union Foundation (NTUF), for a conversation about Joe's recent testimony before the Senate Subcommittee on Fiscal Responsibility and Economic Growth on issues...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
GeTtin' SALTy is a podcast hosted by Greenberg Traurig, focusing on state and local tax policy, legislative, regulatory and litigation updates. The GT SALT Practice assists companies in need of state and local tax counsel whether in a single location or multiple locations throughout the United States. With the largest footprint of any law firm in the United States, the SALT Practice has attorneys in 16 of the firm's domestic offices, including California, Colorado, Delaware, Illinois, Florida, New York, Oregon, and Texas. The firm's breadth of experience across the full SALT spectrum allows GT to offer a wide range of services, including counseling and controversy. The team also regularly partners with the firm's nationally recognized Government Law and Policy Practice to help shape the tax law which affects our clients most.
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