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Gospel Tech with Nathan Sutherland
by Purposely
Gospel Tech is a resource for parents who are feeling outpaced and overwhelmed as they raise children in a tech world. Our goal: Equip parents with the tools, resources, and confidence they need to raise kids who love God and use tech.Gospel Tech’s mission is to equip families to love God and use tech. We want to empower parents to:Talk about healthy techCommunicate the GospelConnect the hope of the Gospel to their everyday tech livesIntroduction to Gospel Tech Three years ago I (Nathan) started Gospel Tech as a ministry to help connect the Gospel to the daily tech lives of families in practical ways. As a middle school teacher I saw a need for intentional, Gospel-focused conversations about tech. Tech was creating more distraction than inspiration in the classroom, and I saw the need for more than just new habits—there was a desperate need for new hearts.Gospel Tech bridges the gap
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Our Students Are More Capable Than They Think
The last six months of consistent classroom teaching has reminded me of an important lesson: Students are more capable than they think. In reading, writing, and math, many times what our students need aren't intensive lessons covering specific steps for success, but rather repeated opportunities to achieve, to practice doing important skills even if they do it poorly early on, and a chance to see their own growth over time.It is a beautiful thing to see a student learn a new skill, and it is a satisfying moment for everyone when that student realizes he or she is capable of learning beyond what they expected for themselves.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4aRIEzw
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The Pope, AI, and the Discipline of Boredom
Many of us feel the tension between wanting to use technology well and wondering if it’s quietly shaping us in ways we didn’t choose. This episode digs into that tension, from Pope Francis’s vision for Christian humanism in the age of AI to the surprisingly spiritual discipline of embracing boredom, and why both matter for families trying to follow Jesus in a noisy world. If you’ve ever caught yourself doom‑scrolling, multitasking your quiet time, or avoiding stillness, this conversation will feel uncomfortably familiar in the best way.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4vF2iH3
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Stop the Summer Slip
Students risk losing up to 40% of their learning over summer break (Atteberry and McEachin). In 2020 two researched looked at 200 million test scores from 18 million students across all 50 states over an 8 year period (2008-2016).The take away: The Summer Slip is real, and it can be neutralized with just 15 minutes of reading and math each day. Parents, we don't have to run a boot camp, but we have the opportunity to keep learning engagement high. Let's make school as fun and accessible as possible for our children. Let's do it 15 minutes a day this summer and stop the Summer Slip.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/49wWoiF
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AI, the Supreme Court, and Peter's Rebuke (Part 2)
Today we cover how Anthropic's Claude Mythos was trained, the sheer enormity of the processing power we're putting into making these AI resources, and what this might look like for us to use this tech well and not as a Tower of Babel to reach heaven whether God likes it or not.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/49jyqrb
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AI, the Supreme Court, and Peter's Rebuke (Part 1)
This past week Neal Katyal, one of the leading Supreme Court Advocates in the US, indulged in a little self-adulation via a TED Talk and X tweet, where he revealed his custom AI named Harvey, is credited with helping achieve victory in a Supreme Court Case. While a lesson on humility could certainly be poignant from this episode, we are going to focus on AI, how we have learned to use it over the last nine years, and what we need to do to use this tech well.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4dmhlhi
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Meta, Adding Boredom, and Protecting our Hearts
Meta, a trillion dollar company, is convinced you need more Virtual Reality in your life, but they also like making money, so they're moving to mobile gaming. That might be great for revenue, but it's going to be bad for focus and downtime. Make some time this week to take a brain break and experience some boredom. I dare you.While you're working on being bored, check out Mark 7:14-23 where Jesus reminds us that our hearts are our real problem. Yes, tech can feed the worst in us, and we should remove tech that causes us to sin, but it doesn't cause us to be bad. We are plenty bad on our own. We need to give our hearts to Jesus, do what he says, and use the tech that helps us look more like him.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4u04UyL
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AI Boundaries, Phone Free Rooms, and Tech at Sporting Events
After a recent talk at a local church I was approached by someone who works for a major tech company and regularly works with AI. He stressed three points heavily:Our children need to be intentionally prepared for AI. It makes up info, it lies to cover its tracks, and even the best AI trainers don't know what they're going to get out of this resource.Our children use AI more than adults do, so they will be the first native-use employees entering the workforce with AI in hand. It's our opportunity to equip, and warn, them.Don't use AI for anything you can't vet.Today we'll address this as well as the problem of heat pollution, how tech companies plan to handle the incredible energy draw of AI farms on the grid, how to handle tech at sporting events, and what we should do about phones in the bedroom.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3PbdX0I
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Of Mice & Owls, Ed Tech, and Tech Time Limits
Nick Bostrom once compared our pursuit of superintelligence to mice trying to domesticate an owl. The most recent news concerning Anthropic's Mythos strikes a little too close to home. Yet not all tech news is so grim: Is Apple's Neo laptop the ed tech solution we've been waiting for? We also dive into a parent question concerning how much time is too much on tech in a day.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4ukazzv
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Child Safety Online
WARNING: The subject matter, and the content itself, can be triggering. I include this so you can be informed, but use prayerful discretion when it comes to how much you really need to know to be loving and helpful for your family, children, and community. Did you know it takes 17 strikes for a child predator to be banned on Meta's platforms? After five, eight, fourteen reported violations the perpetrator will still be active, and only after the seventeenth will the account be taken down. Wild. The good news is, there are a lot of ways to have fun at the pace of real life. I'm currently on a kick about seeing students get a chance for 6th grade camp again.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4sJM25T
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Justice, Phone Free Friends, And What To Do If They Google Something Naughty
This week we saw the first prosecution of AI-based abuse under the Take It Down Act, discuss how to have friends if we're phone free, and answer a parent question about what to do if our children look up something naughty online.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/480pLZV
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Space, Senility, and Hedges for Social Media
This week in tech we saw Artemis II round the dark side of the moon, had a new study from Sweden that found we can decrease our chances of dementia by lowering our sedentary screen time, and we get to answer a parent question about the best way to build hedges for teen social media use.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/47T5Ax3
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Every Day is Easter (Reboot)
As a follower of Jesus, every day is Easter! Jesus is alive, and that's a big deal in every area of life: How we think about ourselves, how we parent our kids, and how we go about doing the good works we're called to do.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3PJeaYU
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The Three Best (And Worst) Uses of AI (Reboot)
AI can be an amazing tool, if we use it right. Today we'll discuss the three best ways to use AI well, and three uses of AI that we should avoid.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4v8cRTN
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Giving Good Adventures
Our children want to have fun, and we can give them adventures that:Maximize adventureHappen at the pace of real lifeAre with real world peopleShow Notes: https://bit.ly/3PgUU4O
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Choosing the Right Tech for Your Child
Choosing the right tech is simple, but that doesn't make it easy. Before we give our children new tech we need to ask three questions:Is it safe?Is my child ready?Is the fruit good?Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4bfWawm
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Notes from the Classroom: Three Ways We Can Parent Well
Parenting is an impossible task, and God knows this. We don't need to be perfect. We can do three things today to love our children well and do our job as parents:1. Make time for them. 2. Correct them in love (discipline)3. Point them to Christ.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/46DuXCp
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Encore: Parenting P*rnography
Everyone listening to this podcast knows someone who has been hurt by this content. So how do we parent it well? Parenting p*rnography well is scary, but it can be done with hope. We can build hedges around our tech and our families to help us raise healthy youth in a tech world. Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3ZSU9RA
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Encore: Porn is a Lie (Newly Relevant for 2026)
I've been at a conference this week with thousands of Jesus loving people from around the country, and the conversation on walking in freedom from pornography is relevant and needed. It is relevant because people are hungry to see themselves, or their brothers and sisters in Christ, walk in the freedom Christ has won for them. It is needed because few churches are having this conversation well. We love to talk about how someone used to struggle, and we love to talk about how we should never view it in the first place. We don't often get into how we can walk in freedom if we are currently struggling.This episode can help us change that.Please listen, share, and then pray about how the Lord is asking you to engage the body of Christ to see all of our members free from the bonds of sin, and walking in the freedom Christ has won for us.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3ZCFXfr
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Parenting AI: Deepfakes and S**tortion (Part 2)
CONTENT WARNING: We’re diving into the tough but important topic of parenting in an AI-shaped world, and while younger kids probably shouldn’t listen in, this could be a great conversation to share with your middle or high schoolers so it feels more like learning together than an interrogation. My hope is that this equips you to parent well as we raise kids in a world shaped by AI. Today we continue our conversation on parenting AI with a look at deepfakes and s**tortion. These are big topics that have an outsized impact on children. We need to know what they are, how they happen, and what to do if our child is targeted. The goal is to be a present, and informed, parent so that your children they need to grow.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4qfOCiG
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Parenting AI: Relational AI (Part 1)
CONTENT WARNING:We’re diving into the tough but important topic of parenting in an AI-shaped world, and while younger kids probably shouldn’t listen in, this could be a great conversation to share with your middle or high schoolers so it feels more like learning together than an interrogation. My hope is that this equips you to parent well as we raise kids in a world shaped by AI.The first step to parenting AI well is to know what is out there. Relational AI is an AI assistant designed to be a sort of digital companion. There are many drawbacks to how it is current designed, and Common Sense Media says these are so unsafe they shouldn't be used by anyone under the age of 18. That's concerning because 3/5 teens use them, and 1/3 say they like them as much or more than real life people.Today's conversation will equip you to begin parenting this tech well from hope, and with a proper respect for the possible dangers it presents.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/49ViagB
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Parenting Video Games Well (START HERE)
Is your child ready to play video games? If they already play, how do you know if it's going well. First we need to look at our children in real-world activities, because if they're faithful in little they can be faithful in much, and then assess their RESET to ensure the tech they use produces good fruit. Show Notes: https://bit.ly/45OiGKP
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Three Mistakes We Make Parenting Video Games (START HERE)
We make three mistakes when parenting video games.We focus on whether it will be fun.We believe the lie of the "digital cul de sac"We take the path of least resistanceThe good news is that each of these have simple, if not easy, fixes! We can focus on the high priorities, build healthy real-world friendships, and choose the activities that make our children more of who God has created them to be.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/45f5239
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Parenting Smartphones (START HERE)
You can parent a smartphone well. This episode will help. Before you start, ensure that this tech is safe (enough) for your child, that your child is ready, and then keep an eye out for good fruit coming from it. After that, parenting a smartphone comes down to building hedges around your family, the device, and remembering that your network hedge doesn't effect a smartphone.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4qJKnMS
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Following God's Call in 2026
I've had several conversations with people recently where they've asked about how Anna and I started this ministry. As we look at a new year, and new resolutions, I want to talk through what it looks like for us to follow where God leads in 2026. Show Notes:
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Nathan's Hot Take & 2025 Year-in-Review
Happy almost-New Year! You, the listener, have been an amazing blessing to me and to this ministry this year, and I want to share a bit of what God has been doing and where we are headed this next year.
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Three Advents
I love Christmas because it is one of the few remaining buttresses of Christian virtue left in America. Everyone in America understands the idea of lavish gifts, of the frailty of gifts alone to make the recipient happy, and how beautiful it is to give a good gift to someone you love. Today we remember how Christmas fulfills a promise of God, and how it is one of three Advents God has promised to bring us for His glory and our good.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4qtjVXX
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Grace & Tech
Grace is key to parenting tech well, and to overcoming unhealthy tech habits. Grace is costly, grace overcomes wrath / judgement at mistakes (specifically God's wrath at sin), and grace demands a response. By understanding God's idea of grace we can better apply it to ourselves and to our children when parenting tech.Show Notes:
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Tech Prodigals
The good news of the Gospel applies even to our tech lives. Jesus' parable of the Prodigal Son is a beautiful reminder that in tech, as in life, there are three types of people: rebels, self-righteous, and saints.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4ptaQ1a
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New Creations with Tech
We are new creations in Christ, and that means we will use tech differently. The question is, which tech needs to be redeemed, and which needs to be removed?Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3LSF1Qk
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How the Gospel Overcomes Neglect
We fail a lot as parents. God doesn't call us to be perfect, but to be faithful. Through intentional repentance, confession, and prayer God can overcome the mistakes we make and even use our brokenness to bring his kingdom.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/43DdLvo
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Parenting as New Creations
In Christ we are new creations (2 Cor. 5:17), and that must change the way we parent our children. We must speak gently, act rightly, be generous with our time, energy, and resources, and think of our children the way God thinks of us. This is an act of the will, for sure, but it's only truly possible through the active working of God's Holy Spirit giving us the heart and will to love as he calls us.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/49fQFyl
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An Anlalog Adventure Christmas (Part 2)
As we look towards Christmas and the greatest gift God gave us in his Son, we need to think intentionally about how we can give our children the best gifts. Namely, we want to give the egg, not the scorpion (Luke 11:11). Today we continue our conversation about Analog Adventures this Christmas, and get into how these this Christmas can be a time to focus on fun at the pace of real life. Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3WO7A3O
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An Analog Adventure Christmas (Part 1)
Giving good gifts is a gift and responsibility as a parent (Just see Luke 11:11). This Christmas we can give our children amazing gifts that inspire, encourage, and equip them to have fun at the pace of real life. That's right, we're talking Analog Adventures! Over the next two weeks we'll discuss Board Games, Art, Competitive Fun, Books, and STEM.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3X7gpFN
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Where Nerds Struggle
While nerds are great at lots of things, we can struggle being present, knowing our limits with tech use, and generally submitting to God's kingdom and not our own. It is easy, in Tolkien's words, to move from Escaping to a better Reality towards Deserting the call God has put on our lives. The problem, at the end of the day, isn't that we haven't made a good enough reality yet, but that our world is broken and needs the great Restorer.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/47BNX4U
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Where Nerds Thrive
Nerds are amazing at experiencing wonder, seeing past the mundane into the Reality God has made, and avoiding the typical traps that come with pursuing purpose in the daily grind. Today we'll celebrate how God has made nerds, and how you as a parents can celebrate your child, your own nerdiness, or maybe even grow in the area of faithful imagination.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4h99rJE
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Too Much Screen Time
Sometimes the hardest part of healthy screen time is knowing what to do instead. So how do we know if our child has too much screen time, and what can we do instead? There are three questions we need to ask, and then four activities we can use to quickly point our children back to analog adventures. 1. Are screens babysitting? 2. Does my child content with screen time? 3. Is tech a consistent battle for our family?The average school-aged child has six "blocks" of discretionary time a day. We will look at four possible analog adventures: books, board games, art, and baking.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4nNUQWC
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Don't Stop Praying
Have you quit praying? Think about the last week: What happened when you saw that last horrible news article, or video on SM, or had someone at work tell you about another heart-rending tragedy. What did you do? If you're anything like me, you didn't pray. You might've shrugged, or cried a little, or made a snarky remark (also more like me than the other two)--but if you're like me, you didn't pray. Our lack of prayer shows we are forgetting just who it is we serve. We serve a God who is:A good fatherCreator God of everythingCalling us to kingdom workWe pray to see His will be done and His kingdom come. Let us not give up in doing what is good, but instead to pray without ceasing, even if it means we pray about our lack of desire to pray.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4pS7m8R
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The Problem of AI and Social Media
There are three unique struggles on social media thanks to the advent of AI:Bots and the Dead InternetSo much p*rnProblems with Reality RetentionThere are three steps we can take today:Step 1: Get internet out of the bedroom.Step 2: Get your family hedges setup — start talking about this!Ask your child: Have they seen AI generated content? How can they tell what is real and what is fake?For younger children: Let’s play a game called “real” v. “story”. .Elsa and Frozen, Vacation we went on as a familyStep 3: Get off the internet. If you’re under the age of 16 you don’t need SM. If you’re under 15, you don’t need a smartphone.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4pCrZWn
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Mean People Online Part 2
There are mean people online. Three steps to take to help ensure we handle mean people well are:Assume others are intelligentAttack ideas, not peopleRemember the Gospel: We were all once sinners (Ephesians 2:4) — now we’re saints, by grace.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3JZr8ie
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Mean People Online Part 1
Few people go online looking to change their minds. Most want validation or escape. With this in mind, we must be intentional with our social media interactions. Today we'll discuss three ground rules for dealing with mean people online, and give practical examples we can look to for how to do online conversations and ministry well. Three ministries who use social media well as an outlet for gospel hope are:Tim Barnett, Red Pen LogicBrady Cone, Calibrate MinistriesThe Bible ProjectShow Notes: https://bit.ly/3VcSYtT
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Being a Good Friend Online
It's hard to make good friends. Today we'll discuss three questions we can discuss with our children to help them build healthy, and helpful, friends online and in real life.Are we of equal value?2. Does this person make me a priority?3. Is the person the point (or is it a shared activity)?Show Notes: https://bit.ly/45XlupG
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Using Social Media for Ministry
Can we use social media well, or is the fact it's designed to take our time, focus, and money make it more harmful than helpful? We'll cover there dangers, three blessings, and how we can remember to not gain the world but lose our soul.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4neMQxh
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Biblical Boundaries for Social Media
God gives us clear statements of what is expected of our behavior both online and offline. Today we'll look at what God requires of our words, minds, focus, and content.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/45uelwM
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Is My Child Ready for Social Media?
In America we have rules for helmets on a bike, licenses for a car, and permits for a gun, but we don't have any real standards about children and social media. We need a clear way to know when our children are ready, what to say when they're not ready, and a simple way to assess if social media is going well once they've started to use it.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4mEKUxx
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Social Media Safety
Social media is inherently unsafe: It is designed for maximal engagement, with feeds drawn from live users on a global network, with a viewing rate far beyond what children will experience in nature (the average TikTok video is viewed for 5 seconds).Today we'll look at the age, limits, and boundaries we can lovingly put around our children to get the best chance of healthy results when using social media.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3Jwa8ji
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A High-Quality Tech Diet
We need to treat our tech like we treat our food: With a high priority on quality, an awareness of what causes us to crash, and a plan for making it happen in the trenches of real life. Our tech will benefit from a similar focus. Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4o27CRO
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Slow Down This Summer
Summer is a time when we can make space for what is most important. Specifically, we can go low(er) tech, make God's Word a priority, and make time for fun at the pace of real life.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3TVhFu9
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Living as Pro Abundant Life (a conversation w/ Roland Warren)
Hey friends, just a quick heads-up that today’s conversation touches on some mature and important topics, so you might want to pop in some earbuds or wait for a quiet moment alone. Using the best tech well means using it to see God's kingdom come, and His will be done. But how do we do this when it comes to topics that are politically charged and high stakes, like abortion? Today we talk with Roland Warren, the President and CEO of Care Net, about how to live out Christ's mission that we are to live life abundantly. We'll take the time to discuss the Dobb's Decision, which overturned Roe v. Wade, the changing landscape with the Plan B pill, and why good laws are important but are secondary to the change that will make them matter.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4nW6bo5
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Analog Adventure Time!
Having fun at the pace of real life is a skill these days. It takes practice, flexibility, and the creativity to say yes as often as possible.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/407qPr1
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Setting Summer Priorities
It's easy for Summer to get busy, and then for good things to crowd out the best things. Today we discuss setting summer priorities, and Cal Newport's encouragement that: 1. We must limit ourselves to a max of three priorities 2. We delegate, or relegate, non-priorities (even awesome ones) 3. Plan a max of 1 priority event each day In doing this we allow ourselves the space to faithfully act on what God has called us to do, and leave space and bandwidth to be present for all God has for us this summer.Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4nwpG6m
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Gospel Tech is a resource for parents who are feeling outpaced and overwhelmed as they raise children in a tech world. Our goal: Equip parents with the tools, resources, and confidence they need to raise kids who love God and use tech.Gospel Tech’s mission is to equip families to love God and use tech. We want to empower parents to:Talk about healthy techCommunicate the GospelConnect the hope of the Gospel to their everyday tech livesIntroduction to Gospel Tech Three years ago I (Nathan) started Gospel Tech as a ministry to help connect the Gospel to the daily tech lives of families in practical ways. As a middle school teacher I saw a need for intentional, Gospel-focused conversations about tech. Tech was creating more distraction than inspiration in the classroom, and I saw the need for more than just new habits—there was a desperate need for new hearts.Gospel Tech bridges the gap
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