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Growing Down: A Progressive Integral Podcast

by Jeremy Johnson, Matt Hudkins

Explore the possibility of aligning progressive culture--the new "radical majority"--with integral philosophy and metamodern politics.

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  1. Not Necessarily Politics

    Frayed. That's the word I think of when I think of how I left Growing Down. Growing Down was last published in 2020. A lot of water has flown under the bridge since that time. Here is an update of cohosts Jeremy and Ryan: Jeremy is engaged in other projects but is up for reunions now and then.…

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  2. Healing and Wholeness Through and Beyond Racial Identity, ft. Ashby Goodrum & Brad Kershner

    Brad Kershner is a school leader and independent scholar, and the author of Understanding Educational Complexity: Integrating Practices and Perspectives for 21st Century Leadership. His research, teaching, and writing cover a wide range of interdependent topics, including education, leadership,...

  3. Talking the Future of the Left ft. Ben Burgis

    In this episode we talk with Ben Burgis. Ben is a philosophy instructor at Georgia State University Perimeter College, a Jacobin columnist, and the host of the “Give Them An Argument” podcast and YouTube show. He is also the author of Give Them an Argument: Logic for the Left and the forthcoming...

  4. MMT and the Politics of Care w/ Andres Bernal

    Andres Bernal returns to Growing Down to discuss the current political landscape and how the principles of MMT can create a new framework for how we view money. Integral Politics advocates for a new paradigm that transcends the left/right binary. What might a new society look like if the...

  5. 20. Subtle Activism ft. David Nicol

    Author David Nicol joins the GD podcast to discuss his book, Subtle Activism: The Inner Dimension of Social and Planetary Transformation, and the important role subtle activist can play for the local and global challenges of the meta-crisis. About Subtle Activism: "Can awakened consciousness...

  6. 19. Talking Metamodern Politics ft. Hanzi Freinacht

    Growing Down podcast talks with Hanzi Freinacht. Hanzi is a political philosopher, historian and sociologist, author of ‘The Listening Society’, ‘Nordic Ideology’ and the upcoming books ‘The 6 Hidden Patterns of History’ and ‘Outcompeting Capitalism’. In this discussion we explore constructive…

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  7. Michael Brooks Tribute - Towards an Integralist Cosmopolitan Socialism

    Jeremy Johnson is joined by Ryan Nakade, Brent Cooper, Matthew T. Segall, Brad Kershner and Layman Pascal to honor the memory Michael Brooks (1983-2020) and discuss his contributions to integrative thinking in politics, cosmopolitan socialism, and where we go from here in solidarity. Recorded on...

  8. Addiction: America's Dark Night of the Soul w/ John Dupuy

    John Dupuy, the author of Integral Recovery, reflects on how politics and addiction intersect. As a country, we may be experiencing a dark night of the soul. The opioid crisis highlights a wound in our country that we must be brave enough to face. Can an integral practice provide a clue to…

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  9. The New Bottom Line w/ Michael Lerner

    Class is in session! The co-hosts of Growing Down sit front row as Rabbi Michael Lerner shares insights from his new book Revolutionary Love and his rich history of activism for social rights. We were honored to be in the audience and we hope you feel the same. Excerpt from Revoltionary Love: "We...

  10. The National Popular Vote w/ Eileen Reavey

    Eileen Reavey of the National Popular Vote campaign joins co-hosts Ryan and Matt to discuss the history of the electoral college and the movement to create an interstate compact that would guarantee the presidency to the candidate who receives the the most popular votes. Join us to discussion its...

  11. The Ecosattva Path ft. David Loy

    In this episode of Growing Down, David Loy, Buddhist teacher and author, shares his views on how Buddhist teachings can be applied to the spiritual and ecological crises of today's age. He advocates for a dual activism for the modern Boddhisatva, or Ecosattva: one of spiritual practice and social...

  12. #12. On the Way to an Integral Culture ft. Stephanie Lepp

    In this episode of Growing Down, Matt, Ryan and Jeremy are joined by Stephanie Lepp. What happens when we take conceptual tools like Integral Theory, or metamodernism, and use them to, well, grow down? To create, engage with--make culture? Stephanie does just that. She is the host of the podcast...

  13. #11: Prepositional Theology ft. Bruce Alderman

    The Growing Down podcast is honored to be joined by Bruce Alderman. Bruce is an adjunct faculty in the College of Psychology at John F. Kennedy University (JFKU). He received his master’s degree in Integral Psychology, with an emphasis on Transpersonal Counseling Psychology, from JFKU in 2005....

  14. #10. Integral Justice and Black Leadership ft. David Hartful Jr

    In this episode, the Growing Down podcast interviews David Hartful Jr., to talk about the protests and riots erupting in America, following the murder of George Floyd by police, from the perspective of Integral Theory and Spiral Dynamics. David is a researcher and founder of Black Leadership...

  15. #9. What’s next, integrations, and ideal political near-futures

    Growing Down co-hosts percolate recent interviews and attempt to integrate their diverse meanings (from changing public perception around more creation, MMT, evolving value systems, and other themes that have emerged on the show).

  16. #8. Reclaiming the Power of Money Creation ft. Rev. Delman Coates

    In this episode, the Growing Down podcast is deeply honored to interview Rev. Delman Coates on reclaiming the power of money creation, the integral connection between liberation theology, social justice, and spiritual traditions, and how we can transform the public imagination around money. Dr....

  17. #7. Do Our Models Get in the Way? ft. Edward Berge

    In this episode we are joined by Edward Berge, an Integral Theory writer and researcher and founder of the Proactive and Progressive Populism blog. Session Notes: On Integral Review: ‘Inter-Bridging’ Bridges and Bridging as Metaphors for ‘syn-integrality’ in Organization Studies and Practice “Do...

  18. #6. Transformational Policies and MMT ft. Andrés Bernal

    In this episode of Growing Down podcast we are joined by Andrés Bernal. Andrés resides in New York City where he is a Lecturer of Urban Studies at CUNY Queens College and Doctoral student at The New School For Public Engagement, Division of Policy Management and Environment. His research focuses…

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  19. #5. The Emergentsia and the Teal New Deal ft. Brent Cooper

    In episode 5 of Growing Down podcast, we are joined by metamodern researcher and political sociologist Brent Cooper. Who are the Emergentsia? Brent talks about his popular Emerge series (read Part 1 here: http://www.whatisemerging.com/opinion...), how he came to become a metamodern researcher…

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  20. #4. Growing Down into Spirit, ft. Paul Smith, Luke Healy

    In this episode, Matt, Ryan and Jeremy are joined by guests Paul Smith and Luke Healy of the Integral Christian Network to explore the connections between religion, spirituality, and the politics of growing down. Paul Smith is the author of Integral Christianity: The Spirit's Call to Evolve. Paul...

  21. #3. Developmental Politics ft. Steve McIntosh [Interview Series]

    In this episode, the Growing Down team is joined by our first first guest, integral philosopher Steve McIntosh, to explore how America can overcome hyperpolarization. Steve McIntosh is the author of the recently published Developmental Politics: How America Can Grow into a Better Version of…

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  22. #2. Coronanomics

    In this episode Matt, Ryan, and Jeremy process the COVID-19 epidemic, the corporate bail-out and further meditations on how they'd each like to see the New Left take an "integral turn." The Populist's Guide to 2020: A New Right and New Left are Rising Next Republic: The Rise of a New Radical...

  23. #1. Introducing the Podcast

    Welcome to Growing Down! Co-hosts Ryan, Matt and Jeremy explore the possibility of aligning progressive culture--the new "radical majority"--with integral philosophy and metamodern politics. Among the diverse topics we cover, we explore: What "Growing Down" means to each of us How the New Left…

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

Explore the possibility of aligning progressive culture--the new "radical majority"--with integral philosophy and metamodern politics.

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Jeremy Johnson, Matt Hudkins

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