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Hard Out

by Jay Thornton & R. Michael Gull

HARD OUT is a 60-minute ticking time bomb of a trash-talking comedy podcast by the creators and star of the underground cinema cult classic-in-the-making Cactus Jack. At the hour mark, our patented buzzer abruptly ends the conversation—even if an esteemed guest is mid-sentence. All "Overtime" bonus content (and more) is available on our Patreon.

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Episodes

  1. We're Baaaaaaaack

    Hard Out RETURNS, with more sacred cow barbecuing than ever! Join R. Michael Gull and Jay Thornton as they napalm any and everyone (and probably their careers in the process).

  2. Joe Wilson Talks Living On Borrowed Time, Using Comedy to Cope with Stage 4 Cancer, Art, Chemo, and More

    Host Jay Thornton—himself a survivor of Stage 3 colon cancer—and multi-hyphenate artist Joe Wilson (who has been battling Stage 4 pancreatic cancer for well over a year, and has valiantly outlived his docs' estimates) chop it up over their experiences fighting the good fight both artistically and...

  3. Cowabunga! Youtube Movie Reviewer Al Lucard talks his Favorite Movie - The OG TMNT!

    Horror film aficionado Al Lucard is a friend of the show, an a fan of our sicko mockumentary CACTUS JACK (can find it on Vudu and Amazon)—he stopped by back in June (I know, I know, been busy as hell lately) to talk horror films, filmmaking, movie nostalgia, the tragic and touching story of why…

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  4. Screenwriting Duo Lustig & Thornton Dish on Getting Dumped by Disney, Studio Corporatization, AI, Streamers, and Writer Leverage in the Strike!

    Title of this one kinda says it all. Ben Lustig and Jake Thornton (no relation—unfortunately, given the power of nepotism in Hollywood)!) broke in with a million dollar spec sale of their epic Santa origin story Winter's Knight to Sony and have since written such high profile projects as TV…

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  5. ”Goblins of Discord” Enneagram Podcast Host, Creative, Mindset Coach and More LARISSA THOMAS Returns to (Sorta) Discuss Stacy Title’s Subversive and More-Relevant-Than-Ever 1995 Flick The Last Supper!

    We're baaaaa-aaaack. Well, Jay is (though Chris or even R. Michael Gull may pop in from time to time to co-host), after a six-month hiatus. The title of this one says it all. For hellcat Larissa's previous appearance, check out the animated discussion Jay & Chris had with her and The Mutual...

  6. ”The Bespectacled Mofo” Rob Hagans Talks Nano-Budget Filmmaking & Directing $1,000 Feature Films 😲‼️

    Screenwriter and filmmaker Rob Hagans, aka "The Bespectacled Mofo," drops by to talk making movies on a true nano (or even "pico") budget. We're talkin' $1k films, people!! Give a listen and hell—grab your smartphones and join the movement! Gull and Jay are already noodling ideas in the $1k…

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  7. Filmmaker Chris Rucinski & Star Jesse Gavin Talk Making the Indie Thriller NORTHERN SHADE (and More)

    This week Jay and R. Michael Gull sit down to chop it up with writer-director Chris Rucinski and actor Jesse Gavin, the star of Chris' super solid, character-driven directorial debut indie thriller NORTHERN SHADE.

  8. Jeanne Marie Spicuzza Dishes on Distro, Delusion, and Being Part of Tommy Wiseau’s Wacky World‼️

    Whew! This one is *WILD*, folks! Full disclosure: we were trying to use R. Michael Gull's relationship with friend Jeanne Marie Spicuzza (writer, star, and co-director of The Scarapist) to help book Tommy Wiseau on the show. That was a no-go, as Tommy understandably doesn't like doing podcasts.…

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  9. Cactus Jack Actor R. Michael Gull Details Childhood Hazing and Plots the Perfect Revenge!!

    Don't call it a comeback! After two-timing it on another podcast, Jay is back home where he belongs at Hard Out—with none other than his muse R. Michael Gull as co-host moving forward (fans of Chris, don't fret, he'll pop in once in a while). Don't expect book reports on movies, we're here to…

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  10. Award-Winning Cactus Jack Actor Michael Gull on Aaron Rodgers/Covid, Rust Shooting, and Rittenhouse!

    Weeeeee're Baaaaaaaack. No movie reviews this time, just Jay sitting down for a good ole fashioned shit-shooting with Cactus Jack himself, R. Michael Gull. We're coming back hard! Toss us a buck (or more!) on Patreon for all Overtime content and more! Patreon…

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  11. HARD OUT: My Favorite Movie - PICKUP ON SOUTH STREET (with Alvaro Rodriguez)

    After a long hiatus, we're back with an episode we recorded on July 24, 2021 with none other than Alvaro Rodriguez—screenwriter of MACHETE, FROM DUSK 'TIL DAWN 3: The Hangman's Daughter, Netflix "Mexanime" SEIS MANOS, indie film THE LAST RAMPAGE, El Rey's FROM DUSK TIL DAWN TV adapt, Showtime's...

  12. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - BRAVEHEART (w/ Vlas & Charley Parlapanides)

    Our love of Mel Gibson and Braveheart has finally been matched!! Writers of the Superman-starring, Tarsem Singh-directed IMMORTALS, creators of the Netflix/Powerhouse original anime Greek mythology bloodbath BLOOD OF ZEUS, adapters of cherished anime DEATH NOTE.... Vlas and Charley Parlapanides…

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  13. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - THE KARATE KID (w/ Dalan Musson)

    Dalan Musson! A true mensch of a man, he's a talented-as-hell writer, a former amateur wrestler, a staff writer on showrunner/creator Malcolm Spellman's *incredible* Marvel miniseries THE FALCON AND THE WINTER SOLDER (currently streaming on Disney+, in case you live under a rock), rumored to be...

  14. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - BRAZIL/HALLOWEEN (w/ Karl Slominski and Jenna Lyn Wright)

    As they close in on the end of their fully-funded Kickstarter for Karl Slominski's *truly breathtaking" graphic novel EVERMORE FALLS, Karl and his partner-in-crime Jenna Wright stop by to talk Gilliam and Carpenter flicks, all things comics, art vs commerce, and taking control of your own…

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  15. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - GET CARTER (w/ guest Jon Adler)

    Milwaukee Morning Radio stalwart FM 102.1's Jon Adler stops by to shoot the shit on morning drive radio life, stalker listeners and death threats, interviewing rock stars and famous comedians, music, soundtracks, and his love of revenge films like 1971's Mike Hodges' stone cold classic GET CARTER...

  16. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - KUNG FU HUSTLE (w/ Clint Jones, the "PWNISHER")

    VFX badass Clint Jones—if you're one of his over *half a million* YouTube subscribers, you might know him as "PWNISHER"—stops by to not only talk his unabashed love of Stephen Chow's mindbogglingly killer mash-up of everything from Chaplin/Keaton to Classic Kung Fu Theater to Astaire/Rogers dance...

  17. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie* - CHILDREN OF PARADISE (w/ guest Mark Metcalf)

    You may know him as Animal House's Doug Neidermeyer, Seinfeld's Maestro, Buffy the Vampire Slayer's "The Master," authoritarians in iconic Twisted Sister videos, or from one of the hundreds (if not thousands) of other times he's graced not only screens big and small but the stage in countless...

  18. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - APOCALYPSE NOW (w/ guest James McTeigue)

    Calling in from Berlin where he's been busy co-directing THE MATRIX 4 with Lana Wachowski, director James McTeigue (V FOR VENDETTA) joins the show to talk not only Francis Ford Coppola's self-financed, sanity-risking *masterpiece* APOCALYPSE NOW, but directing films like the much-loved dystopian...

  19. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - Boon Joon-ho's MOTHER (w/ guest Kevin Arbouet)

    Writer-Director-Producer-Fashionista-Martial-Artist-Election-Pundit multi-hyphenate extraordinaire Kevin Arbouet stopped by to talk Bong Joon-ho's 2009 South Korean *masterpiece* MOTHER—and a whole hell of a lot more. Need to have him back on to talk Aronofsky's MOTHER! next!

  20. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie *Special Mother's Day Edition* - IMITATION OF LIFE (w/ Special Guest... our Mom!)

    We tricked our mom Elizabeth Wiley into coming on the podcast to talk about not only Douglas Sirk's seminal 1959 "melodrama" IMITATION OF LIFE, but motherhood, raising us, her own mother's trials and tribulations, and more—on Mother's Day, no less! Also included in this episode is our sister…

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  21. Hard Out: Cinephiliacs - DEATH TO SMOOCHY + MEGAN IS MISSING

    Digging through our files and realized this gem went unpublished! Recording back in mid-February, it's Danny Devito's tonal misfire DEATH TO SMOOCHY and the heinous found footage cautionary tale MEGAN IS MISSING in yet another Hard Out: Cinephiliacs Double Feature throwdown! Oh, and we discuss…

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  22. Hard Out: Cinephiliacs - PRINCE OF DARKNESS + MOONWALKERS

    The second leg of John Carpenter's unofficial "Apocalypse Trilogy" PRINCE OF DARKNESS is Chris' pick for this episode of Hard Out: Cinephiliacs, along with Jay's selection of Antoine Bardou-Jacquet's Ron Perlman and Rupert Grint-starring MOONWALKERS, a fun, subversive, psychedelic…

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  23. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - BABE: PIG IN THE CITY (w/ guest Scott Keiner)

    Believe it or not, the fantastical BABE: PIG IN THE CITY is the "favorite" movie of screenwriter, director, creative producer and former VP of the sadly now-defunct, sensational viral video factory Super Deluxe Scott Keiner (like many, Scott has a hell of a time choosing a "favorite" flick, but...

  24. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - THE BASKETBALL DIARIES (w/ guest Alex Sterling)

    Young Leonardo DiCaprio scorched the screen in THE BASKETBALL DIARIES, the harrowing, drug-fueled 1995 biopic of famed New York poet, musician, author, and artist Jim Carroll directed by Scott Kalvert—which just so happens to be the favorite movie of our buddy and fan of the show Alex Sterling…

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  25. Hard Out: Cinephiliacs - LAST TANGO IN PARIS + ZARDOZ

    Featuring a towering performance by icon Marlon Brando, Bernardo Bertolucci's unfortunately rapey masterpiece LAST TANGO IN PARIS (poor Maria Schneider 😢) is up for discussion in this episode of Hard Out: Cinephiliacs, alongside John Boorman's WTF-inducing sci-fi tripfest ZARDOZ (poor Sean...

  26. Hard Out: Cinephiliacs - PLAYING FOR KEEPS and LIFE ITSELF

    The Harvey and Bob Weinstein-directed 80's hodgepodge disaster PLAYING FOR KEEPS and Steve James' touching documentary tribute to Roger Ebert LIFE ITSELF are up to bat in this installment of Hard Out: Cinephiliacs, which inspired us to wax philosophical over not only Harvey's inhumanity but...

  27. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - BLADE RUNNER (w/ guest Zoje Stage)

    Ridley Scott's sci-fi masterpiece BLADE RUNNER is the all-time favorite film of bestselling novelist Zoje Stage, author of acclaimed books Baby Teeth, Wonderland, and the upcoming (Aug 17th!) Getaway! We chop it up over her love of this film but also jump into her past as a filmmaker and...

  28. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - THE DEPARTED (w/ guest Dan Benamor)

    Martin Scorsese's Best Picture Academy Award-winning THE DEPARTED is the all-time favorite flick of Hollywood development exec-turned-screenwriter and host of the *fantastic* kindred spirit podcast "Movies I Love That No One Talks About" Dan Benamor. Featuring an amazing all-in, paranoia-fueled...

  29. Hard Out: Cinephiliacs - SANTA WITH MUSCLES + A WAR

    In what might constitute our most absurd, "what-in-the-everloving-FUCK WERE THEY THINKING??" double feature mash-up review yet, it's the Hulk Hogan holiday hot mess SANTA WITH MUSCLES paired with the deeply involving, understated, incredible A WAR by Danish master filmmaker Tobias Lindholm (see...

  30. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - THE LAST DRAGON (w/ guest Michael J. Kospiah)

    We weren't planning to drop this for a couple more days but since we just found out TODAY is the **36th anniversary of THE LAST DRAGON** we had no choice but to release it! Screenwriter Michael J. Kospiah (of The Suicide Theory and the newly released RAGE—which is getting very good reviews and is...

  31. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - HELL OR HIGH WATER (w/ guest Kristy Lowrey)

    David Mackenzie kept it real in directing the Taylor Sheridan-scripted HELL OR HIGH WATER (starring a world-weary Chris Pine, tragic bad seed Ben Foster, and nobody-better Jeff Bridges)—and in doing so crafted the favorite movie of super cool veteran TV Writer Kristy Lowrey (Into the Badlands, 12...

  32. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - DRIVE (w/ guest Mike Morin)

    Nicolas Winding Refn's violent, stylish, Ryan Gosling-starring ode-to-electric-nights getaway driver *neon*-noir DRIVE is up to bat in this episode as we highlight the favorite flick of our buddy, the uber-talented artist and writer Mike Morin (creator of the viral webgame classic ALICE IS DEAD)....

  33. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - BLUE RUIN (w/ guest Adam Barker)

    The homie Adam Barker—a kindred spirit Black List screenwriter whose film WASH ME IN THE RIVER (starring Jack Huston, John Malkovich and Robert fucking De Niro!!) just wrapped production—stops by to talk his favorite film, Jeremy Saulnier's crowdfunded hail mary indie darling neo-noir revenge...

  34. Hard Out: Cinephiliacs - MALCOLM & MARIE (w/ guests Larissa Thomas and Ryan Jackson)

    In an episode you could almost call RYAN & LARISSA, we forgo our usual in-house freakazoid double feature dives for a one-off discussion with powerhouses Larissa Thomas and Ryan Jackson on the subjective merits—and demerits—of Netflix's Sam Levinson-scripted and directed MALCOLM & MARIE (starring...

  35. Hard Out: Cinephiliacs - GOD BLESS AMERICA + POSSESSOR

    Another WTF mash-up on this episode of Hard Out: Cinephiliacs! This time we're taking a look at Bobcat Goldthwait's bloodlusting satire supreme GOD BLESS AMERICA and Brandon Cronenberg's bravura body horror debut POSSESSOR. Look for more fucked up Cinephiliacs double features to come, along with...

  36. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - CHAMELEON STREET (w/ guest Ryan Jackson)

    The truly fantastic, satirical, smart, funny, and bold as hell 1990 Sundance Grand Jury winner CHAMELEON STREET—by criminally underrated (and lost to the annals of time for who knows what reason) auteur Wendell B. Harris Jr—is the "Favorite Movie" of screenwriter and friend of the show Ryan...

  37. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - DEAD POETS SOCIETY (w/ guest Sean Hansen and Special Guests Gale Hansen, Dylan Kussman, Allelon Ruggiero, and Oscar-winning screenwriter Tom Schulman)

    DEAD POETS SOCIETY—arguably our own favorite film, most definitely our "sentimental" choice if under the gun—is the pick of our dear old friend Sean Hansen, who stopped by to discuss his love of the film... and had his MIND BLOWN about 12 minutes in when we revealed to him that we'd somehow…

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  38. Hard Out: Cinephiliacs - THE MISSION + PARTY MONSTER

    The unlikely pairing of Fenton Bailey's and Randy Barbato's lo-fi 2003 club kid murder movie PARTY MONSTER and Roland Joffe's epic 1986 period piece THE MISSION are the focus of this episode of Hard Out: Cinephiliacs! Look for more fucked up Cinephiliacs double features to come, along with...

  39. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - HALLOWEEN (w/ guest Michael Viers)

    John Carpenter's slasher classic HALLOWEEN is the all-time favorite film of podcaster, filmmaker, and festival panel moderator extraordinaire Michael Viers (of the Shame List Picture Show podcast), so he stopped by to "chop it up," so to speak (thought Michael Myers might dig that turn of phrase)...

  40. Hard Out: Cinephiliacs - THE DEATH OF STALIN

    Welcome to Them Thorntons' Hard Out: Cinephiliacs! In this episode Chris and Jay discuss Armando Iannucci's THE DEATH OF STALIN, starring Steve Buscemi, Simon Russell Beale, Paddy Considine, Rupert Friend, Jason Isaacs, Michael Palin, Andrea Riseborough, Paul Whitehouse, and Jeffrey Tambor. You…

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  41. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - THE DIRT (Jeff Lampton)

    Jeff "The Loose Cannon of Comedy" Lampton stops by the podcast via remote live feed from his hotel room in Horse Cave, Kentucky and proceeds to conduct our entire geek-out of Netflix's Mötley Crüe biopic THE DIRT from his jacuzzi tub while chain smoking and swilling longnecks!! How do you not…

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  42. Hard Out: ALIEN SMACKDOWN, Part Two (w/ guests Juan Ortiz and Ian MacDonald)

    Welcome back to the HARD OUT "ALIEN SMACKDOWN," a massive serialized shittalking tournament in which we—along with recurring friends of the show Ian MacDonald and Juan "Johnny" Ortiz—draft, seed, and hash out which alien from the silver and small screen alike will be the last extra-terrestrial…

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  43. Hard Out - The Return of Rex (w/ guest Rex Sikes)

    Actor, producer, director, hypnotist, mentalist, motivational speaker, podcaster, professor... there's not much Rex Sikes don't do. And he lists "dad" first and foremost among his occupations—what's not to love?! Rex was supposed to stop by to talk about his favorite film THE NITWITS, but thanks…

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  44. Hard Out: Alien Smackdown (w/ guests Ian MacDonald and Juan Ortiz)

    Welcome to the HARD OUT "ALIEN SMACKDOWN," a massive serialized shittalking tournament in which we—along with recurring friends of the show Ian MacDonald and Juan "Johnny" Ortiz—draft, seed, and hash out which alien from the silver and small screen alike will be the last extra-terrestrial left...

  45. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - SAME TIME, NEXT YEAR (w/ guest Jeanne Veillette Bowerman)

    Former Editor-in-Chief of Script Magazine and current empress of Pipeline Artists and #scriptchat Jeanne Veillette Bowerman—and her jangling jewelry—stopped by the podcast to talk about their all-time favorite film SAME TIME, NEXT YEAR starring Alan Alda and the incomparable Ellen Burstyn. We...

  46. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST (w/ guest Butch Walker)

    We're back after the release of our film CACTUS JACK (info below) to talk one of the best films of all-time—Milos Forman's Jack Nicholson-starring ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST—with Jay's old US Air Force partner-in-crime Butch Walker (who also made an appearance on our Covid Roundtable…

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  47. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - ??? (w/ guest Nate Davis)

    He's a screenwriter, producer (on our own CACTUS JACK even), youtuber (check out his series RE-ENTRY, where he interviews pro screenwriters and publicly chronicles his process of trying to break back in as a Hollywood screenwriter after years away from the racket), and all around great gut: It's...

  48. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - GOODFELLAS (w/ guest Nick Clement)

    Film critic, Variety contributor, script consultant, producer, and consummate cinephile Nick Clement stops by to talk Martin Scorsese's mob masterpiece GOODFELLAS in this episode of the HARD OUT subseries "My Favorite Movie," a 60-minute ticking time bomb of a podcast in which we have one or more...

  49. Hard Out: Covid Roundtable (w/ guests Julio Gagne, Brett Saladino, Sarah Wiley, and Butch Walker)

    COVID and the COVID VACCINE are the subject of this roundtable discussion, which includes scientists Julio Gagne and Brett Saladino to shed some light on not only the Covid vaccines hitting the market but how vaccines work in general in order to dispel some of the myths surrounding them, our…

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  50. Hard Out: My Favorite Movie - FIGHT CLUB (w/ guest Dylan Avery)

    David Fincher's macho-masochistic masterpiece FIGHT CLUB is the focus of this episode of the HARD OUT subseries "My Favorite Movie," a 60-minute ticking time bomb of a podcast in which we have one or more guests on to geek out on their all-time favorite movie. Famed filmmaker Dylan Avery (LOOSE...

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

HARD OUT is a 60-minute ticking time bomb of a trash-talking comedy podcast by the creators and star of the underground cinema cult classic-in-the-making Cactus Jack. At the hour mark, our patented buzzer abruptly ends the conversation—even if an esteemed guest is mid-sentence.

All "Overtime" bonus content (and more) is available on our Patreon.

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Jay Thornton & R. Michael Gull

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