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HardLore
by Colin Young, Bo Lueders, Knotfest
HardLore Podcast • Hosted by Colin Young (Twitching Tongues, God’s Hate), featuring in-depth, biographical interviews with our favorite musicians from the worlds of hardcore/punk/metal & beyond...
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ANDY WILLIAMS: Every Time I Die, AEW, & The Parallels Between Music & Wrestling (4K Re-Upload)
Rest in peace to the universally beloved Andy "The Butcher" Williams of Every Time I Die, Atomic Rule and All Elite Wrestling. When it comes to leading by example, Andy was THE ultimate example to follow from the moment you met him. A beacon of kindness, the benchmark of cool, and an unbreakable pillar of love and support to everyone in his life. To know Andy was to love Andy, but more importantly, to know Andy was to feel loved by Andy.Andy was our second ever guest on HardLore, and technically our 3rd ever recorded episode. In his honor, we've upscaled this original episode to 4K to preserve this important conversation in the highest possible quality. We will love and miss Andy forever and I can't wait to hear the band that he and Bo will surely be working on. Goodbye my friend.Originally aired May 11th, 2022:"Colin and Bo welcome Andy Williams to the show to recount some of his favorite tour stories, from his early days touring with Buried Alive, his long tenure with Every Time I Die, and how he went on to be able to balance his music career with wrestling full time for AEW as half of The Butcher and The Blade."__________00:00:00 - Remembering Andy Williams00:05:29 - 10 Bell Salute00:05:58 - HardLore Episode 4: Andy Williams00:07:01 - The Parallels Between Music & Wrestling00:11:53 - What Set Andy on a New Path00:17:13 - Andy & Buried Alive00:22:54 - Andy's Music Taste Refining00:30:08 - Andy Asks the Worst Places We've Stayed On Tour00:35:22 - ETID's 1 Star Hotel Gimmick00:39:19 - Andy Tour Stories00:48:04 - Balancing AEW & ETID00:52:32 - Andy Loves Little Gear Now, Tour Stories Cont.00:58:29 - Wrestlers and Their Musical Interests01:03:27 - Wrestling Is Songwriting01:11:16 - ETID Setting the Example For Touring Bands01:16:45 - Andy on the End of ETID
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ARTHUR RIZK: Master of Extreme Music Production (War Hungry, Sumerlands, Eternal Champion)
We're joined by Pennsylvania's own ARTHUR RIZK! Longtime friend of the show and expert producer/engineer of all things extreme.Before discussing his work with bands like Blood Incantation, Power Trip, the Cavaleras, Cro-Mags, Kreator (and so many more)... We discuss Arthur's background as the once reluctant guitar player of legendary PA Hardcore band WAR HUNGRY, which lead to him finding his footing in the hardcore community in the early oughts as a young metalhead. These days Arthur is juggling his time as a musician between COLD WORLD, ETERNAL CHAMPION and SUMERLANDS when he's not manning the board for metal's biggest bands.We're also joined once again by guest co-host and another modern great in extreme music engineering, our very own Taylor Young. This is a fascinating deep dive into the world of hardcore, metal & punk production with two of the greatest minds currently doing it. Enjoy._____________HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.Shot, edited and mixed by Steven Grise Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodesJoin the HARDLORE DISCORD Get 15% off DUNABLE GUITARS with code HARDLORE. Seriously. A guitar. What are you waiting for??? Get 10% off MILLS VINTAGE site-wide with code HARDLORE.____________00:00:00 - Start00:01:17 - Arthur Rizk00:03:46 - Arthur's Path to Extreme Music00:16:01 - Arthur's Lesser Known Bands...00:25:41 - Engineering And Producing Music00:27:11 - Arthur's Engineering Breakthrough (Power Trip)00:29:14 - Approaching Production as a Musician First00:32:45 - War Hungry00:41:40 - WAR HUNGRY SELF-TITLED!!!00:50:53 - Pardon This Interruption00:53:18 - Eternal Champion & Sumerlands01:05:27 - Remembering Brad Raub01:07:54 - Sumerlands - Dreamkiller01:13:04 - Balancing Time Between Producing and WritingMusic01:15:42 - What Session Did Arthur Learn the Most From?01:20:36 - Goats****01:22:18 - Shout Out To All Producers' Spouses01:24:17 - Re-Recorded Sepultura Classics01:28:30 - Blood Incantation - Absolute Elsewhere01:32:49 - Most Difficult Records They've Made01:38:01 - Perfect Production01:41:42 - Best Drum Sound of All Time01:44:49 - Best Guitar Tone01:46:54 - Heaviest Record Ever01:49:41 - Production End Game?01:51:23 - Re-Recording Age of Quarrel01:59:19 - Arthur Kinda Likes Touring02:04:31 - Making Records vs. Playing Live02:06:23 - You Hungry Arthur?02:12:28 - Top 4
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Bill Kelliher: MASTODON, Losing Brent Hinds & The “Rebirth” of The Band
Split your lungs with blood and thunder…We’re joined by MASTODON co-founder and guitarist Bill Kelliher on the eve of their newest album Marrow Deep.We dive deep into the origin of the band, the recent loss of Brent Hinds after his dismissal from the band, Bill discovering extreme music in Rochester, NY and linking up with Brann first in Lethargy & Today is the Day, Mastodon’s humble but competent beginnings, and we break down the entire Mastodon discography and accompanying tours and tales in between.Featuring special guest co-host, engineer & producer Taylor Young of God’s Hate, Twitching Tongues and more._______________HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.Shot, edited and mixed by Steven Grise Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf • Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes• Join the HARDLORE DISCORD • Get 15% off TIMELESS COFFEE site-wide and grab a bag of my favorite beans and the best vegan cookies I’ve ever had• Get 10% off MILLS VINTAGE site-wide with code HARDLORE.____________00:00:00 - Start00:01:42 - Bill Kelliher00:02:19 - Bill Reflects on the Loss of Brent Hinds00:07:07 - Healing And What Comes Next00:08:02 - "Your Ghost Again" / Marrow Deep Production00:14:56 - Snakes For Dinner00:21:52 - Finding Extreme Music00:31:12 - Favorite Fret00:31:38 - Meeting Brann & Joining Lethargy00:39:04 - The Origin of Mastodon00:43:33 - MASTODON DEMO, Evolution of Live Production00:49:22 - Pardon This Interruption00:51:46 - Touring On The Demo00:56:11 - REMISSION01:00:34 - Ideal Music Production (Turnstile Glow On)01:05:14 - LEVIATHAN: Why Moby Dick?01:08:15 - Exercising Restraint In Songwriting01:11:47 - Touring on Leviathan01:14:32 - Features With Scott Kelly01:17:23 - BLOOD MOUNTAIN01:24:31 - CRACK THE SKYE01:33:23 - Death Magnetic Tour01:35:49 - THE HUNTER01:42:31 - ONCE MORE ‘ROUND THE SUN01:45:24 - Building A Set List01:50:46 - Game Of Thrones01:52:45 - EMPEROR OF SAND01:56:53 - “Clandestiny”02:01:13 - Remembering Nick John / HUSHED & GRIM02:08:41 - Leading up to Brent's Exit From Mastodon02:14:51 - Performing With Ozzy One Last Time02:18:21 - Top 4 Hardcore Records
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GOD'S HATE: Won't Be Disgraced Deep Dive W/ Anna Zanes
For the very first time on HardLore, the interviewer becomes the interviewee… Myself, Brody King and Taylor Young of GOD’S HATE sit down with Anna Zanes, who up until just days ago was the editor in chief of Alternative Press, to deep dive into the development and intention of our brand new 12” EP, WON’T BE DISGRACED.In our own words… Won’t Be Disgraced is a dense, urgent collection of 3 songs driven by grief and the state of the greater hardcore community and beyond.Your mind can be your most powerful tool or a weapon used against you in your darkest moments, and the only guaranteed way to fail yourself and your loved ones is to quit.As the world continues to be destroyed from within by greed, religious extremism, and 24 hour news cycles of division and violations of human rights… It has never been more apparent that all we have is each other. Use your hate to make a change. Don’t be disgraced.Dedicated to Bohan Daniel Lueders.You can stream all three songs and pre-order the record now: https://www.godshate.usYou can support a few of the other journalists who were recently laid off below: • https://andrewsacher.substack.com/• https://soundbitesnyc.substack.com/_____________HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.Shot, edited and mixed by Steven Grise Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf • Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes• Join the HARDLORE DISCORD • Get 15% off DUNABLE GUITARS with code HARDLORE. Seriously. A guitar. What are you waiting for??? • Get 10% off MILLS VINTAGE site-wide with code HARDLORE.____________00:00:00 - Start00:01:25 - Introducing Anna Zanes00:04:13 - Picking Up Where God's Hate Left Off00:10:07 - The San Fernando Valley00:12:36 - Colin Meeting Brody, Starting God's Hate00:17:33 - Everything Comes From Somewhere/God's Hate Lineups Through the Years00:22:24 - God's Hate Lyrics, Having Faith in Your Writing00:28:15 - WON'T BE DISGRACED01:04:24 - Pardon This Interruption....01:07:46 - What "Job" Must Be Finished?01:16:25 - Creating Hateful Music "Out of Love"01:23:44 - Does Art Require Pain?01:33:30 - What's Next For God's Hate?01:37:07 - Deciding On The 3 New Songs & Finishing This Record01:45:10 - Favorite Extreme Musical Songwriters01:47:10 - Shutting Out Music When Writing01:51:10 - What is "Being Harder?
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TERROR & Brody King: From the Valley to the World (A HardLore Special)
HardLore and special guest co-host Brody King are joined by TERROR founders Scott Vogel & Nick Jett for a special excursion all around the San Fernando Valley in Los Angeles.We learn all about the origin of the band, which started from the ruins of Carry On, and visit a few key hotspots around our mutual hometown that played an integral role in Terror’s story.We eventually meet up with Martín Stewart to discuss all things Terror and all things STILL SUFFER, their 10th and newest LP that released in this past April.This was something scheduled for Bo and I to do together, and I can’t thank of a more appropriate way to finally make it happen than with my LEFT hand man, Mr. Brody King. Thank you to Terror for joining us for this first special episode like this in a long time.________________HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.Shot, Mixed & Edited by Steven GriseTitle sequence by Nicholas Marzluf • Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episode.• Join the HARDLORE DISCORD.• Checkout UNPLUGS to learn more about THE best earplugs I have EVER used! (and you can quote me)_________________600:00:00 - Start00:01:31 - TERROR, Zomu Coffee00:02:46 - Nick Jett Discovering Hardcore00:06:44 - Carry On00:09:46 - Carry On Ending (& Reuniting)00:13:40 - Piece By Piece00:16:03 - A Change of Pace for Scott & The Magic of Nick's Garage00:20:02 - Scotts First Apartment In LA00:23:15 - Scott Meeting Nick & Todd Jones00:26:47 - Naming "Terror"00:28:07 - Terror - Life & Death Demo00:33:54 - Writing Lowest Of The Low00:39:17 - Bridge Nine & The Response to Lowest of the Low00:43:48 - Studio S, North Hollywood00:46:13 - Pardon This Interruption...00:48:01 - Worst Terror Show Ever Played00:53:11 - @NickGoDie00:56:21 - Terror HQ, Swinton Ave00:58:34 - One With The Underdogs, Todd Exiting Terror & Chaos at the House01:03:33 - Moving In & Remembering Terror HQ01:06:30 - Recording Without a Click Track (Hell yeah)01:08:23 - Recruiting Frank 3 Gun01:10:19 - Midnight Hour Records and Martín Stewart01:17:28 - Underrated Terror Records01:20:19 - Four Word Album Titles01:23:43 - Crazy Terror Shows01:24:28 - Terror At The Whisky A Go Go: A HardLore Investigation01:31:42 - Unconventional Terror Tours01:33:48 - Least Sane Member of Terror01:35:55 - The Current President of Scott's Tots01:40:10 - Cultural Explosion of Keepers Of The Faith01:44:40 - Reuniting With Todd Jones on Pain Into Power01:47:51 - Terror Parts That Felt Like Monumental Achievements01:50:15 - The Pit Recording Studio, Still Suffer01:55:36 - Recording with Taylor Young02:04:46 - Terror Has TEN ALBUMS02:09:12 - Advice For Younger Bands & People02:15:22 - Top 4 Breakdowns
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Jade Puget: AFI, Creating Their Signature Sound & Surviving Mainstream Success
In this highly anticipated next chapter with one of our favorite bands, HardLore is finally joined by Jade Puget: the man who was instrumental in defining the iconic AFI sound. Featuring special guest co-host Alec Faber of God’s Hate, Twitching Tongues and Holy Blade.Following our legendary two part special with Davey Havok, we’re honored to share Jade’s side of the greater AFI story… Starting from the beginning with Jade discovering punk & hardcore in Ukiah, CA alongside his brother Smith, his days in Redemption 87, joining AFI and creating their definitive sound with his work on Black Sails in the Sunset, the surprising legacy of the All Hallows EP, his (and the band’s) frustrations with Nitro Records, the opportune timing of Art of Drowning, the cultural phenomenon of Sing the Sorrow and continuing success of Decemberunderground, the agony of Crash Love, the triumph of Burials, all the way to re-defining the AFI sound with Silver Bleeds the Black Sun.It was an honor and a joy to finally chat about all things AFI and hardcore with Jade, and we can only hope you enjoy this 3 hour chat as much as we did.______________HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.Shot, edited and mixed by Steven Grise Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf • Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes• Join the HARDLORE DISCORD • Get 15% off DUNABLE GUITARS with code HARDLORE. Seriously. A guitar. What are you waiting for??? • Get 15% off TIMELESS COFFEE site-wide and grab a bag of my favorite beans and the best vegan cookies I’ve ever had: ______________00:00:00 - Start00:01:38 - Jade Puget00:03:10 - Discovering Punk and Hardcore in Ukiah00:06:28 - Skateboarding & The Muhammad Ollie00:12:57 - Straight Edge & The Way It Is Compilation00:18:05 - Redemption 8700:24:21 - Becoming Aware of AFI00:28:04 - Joining AFI & Writing BLACK SAILS IN THE SUNSET00:34:30 - Jade’s Favorite Fret & Restraint in Songwriting00:38:03 - The AFI Sound00:43:10 - All Hallows EP00:51:01 - AFI, Danzig, Samhain Tour00:57:38 - Art Of Drowning01:06:36 - Commercial Success And Overall Shock01:09:20 - SING THE SORROW & Slowing Down the AFISound01:13:20 - Jerry Finn & Butch Vig01:21:21 - Sing The Sorrow’s Electronics (Fruity Loops)01:26:48 - Leaving Song 2 & Initially Hearing Sing the Sorrow Finished01:31:34 - MTV New Years Eve With Three Six Mafia01:32:59 - Leaving Song 2 Video01:37:46 - Sing The Sorrow’s Release Into DECEMBERUNDERGROUND01:44:17 - Picking the Singles for DECEMBERUNDERGROUND 01:47:59 - Butch Vig Declining to Work on the Album01:50:54 - Writing 120 Songs & The “Hardcore Club”01:57:00 - The Whirlwind of Decemberunderground into the Agony of CRASH LOVE02:01:15 - Blaqk Audio/Crash Love Coinciding and “Stripping Down” AFI02:11:51 - Sing The Sorrow At The Forum02:17:25 - The Triumph of BURIALS02:24:13 - The Blood Album & Producing AFI02:28:18 - Silver Bleeds the Black Sun & Evolving the AFI Sound02:39:22 - BODIES & AFI in 202002:43:05 - Birdlegs & Getting His Revelation Star02:46:23 - Jade's Insane Chipotle Order lololololol02:51:51 - Top 4 Hardcore Records02:54:22 - A Les Paul Epilogue For Bo
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Patrick Walker of WARNING & 40 Watt Sun’s First Ever Podcast Interview
It is my tremendous honor to be joined by Patrick Walker of Warning and 40 Watt Sun for what is not only first ever non-print interview, but also HardLore's first ever 1 on 1 interview with a guest.In this appropriately intimate chat, we discuss his humble upbringing in Harlow, Essex UK.From the Jackson 5 and Tears For Fears to Revelation and Saint Vitus, we discover how Patrick's emotional connection with music flourished, and how he evolved into someone i've always considered to be one of the most personal and deliberate songwriters in the world. We learn the canonical standing of Warning and 40 Watt Sun in Patrick's point of view, the 20 year lasting legacy of "Watching From A Distance" and why now was finally time to return to Warning for "Rituals of Shame."After years of championing Patrick's work both on and off HardLore, it was an honor not only to have this chat, but to share more about someone whose work I admire so much. Thanks for watching._______________HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.Shot, mixed and edited by Steven GriseTitle sequence by Nicholas Marzluf• Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes.• Join the HARDLORE DISCORD• Get 15% off DUNABLE GUITARS with code HARDLORE. Seriously. A guitar. What are you waiting for??? 00:00:00 - Start00:01:12 - Patrick Walker00:02:47 - Finding Music in Harlow, Essex00:04:59 - Doom Metal & Discovering the Guitar00:09:41 - Emotional Connections to Music00:15:22 - WARNING00:18:41 - Revelation Looms Demo00:22:59 - Blessed By The Sabbath00:23:48 - The Strength To Dream00:27:07 - Patrick's Favorite Fret00:30:39 - Re-Approaching Warning00:33:10 - Watching From A Distance00:43:20 - The "Footprints Moment"00:45:42 - Vulnerability in Public-Facing Art00:48:27 - Pardon This Interruption...00:49:48 - Touring In America / Patrick's Love of Food00:56:51 - Patrick on Modern Doom Metal00:58:17 - 40 WATT SUN01:09:33 - Changes In Touring Solo01:12:16 - Rituals of Shame01:23:27 - Patrick on Spirituality01:25:29 - Top 4 Doom Metal Records
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Pete Morcey: 100 Demons, Blood For Blood & The Evolution of Connecticut Hardcore
Destiny has come: After being officially crowned the hardest hardcore band of all time in our official tournament bracket… We’re finally joined by the great Pete Morcey, vocalist of 100 DEMONS for a long form, sit-down interview.We’re ALSO joined by special guest co-host Dan Seely of King Nine, for his historic 5th full-length appearance on a HardLore episode.We start from the beginning of Pete’s nearly 40 year musical career, from making the “definitive American oi record” in Forced Reality, spearheading heavy hardcore in Connecticut with Higher Force, joining 100 Demons and writing the iconic self-titled record, his dark folk masterpiece that is Murmur’s The Boundless Black, all the way to now singing for Blood For Blood, and making 100 Demons’ first record in 22 years, Embrace the Black Light.Thanks to Pete, Dan, and the Detroit Masonic Temple for having us.__________HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.Edited by Steven Grise (https://www.instagram.com/iamonenineseven/) • Title sequence by Nicholas Marzluf (https://www.instagram.com/marzluf/)• Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes: https://patreon.com/hardlorepod • Join the HARDLORE DISCORD: https://discord.gg/jA9rppggef • Get 10% off GUILTY PARTY site-wide with code HARDLORE and grab some of our favorite clothing brands of all time: https://www.guiltyparty.co/ • Get 10% off MILLS VINTAGE site-wide with code HARDLORE: https://www.millsvintageusa.com/• Get tickets for LOUDER THAN LIFE Festival! Can’t wait to see you all there: https://louderthanlifefestival.com/.________________00:00:00 - Start00:01:22 - Pete Morcey00:02:51 - Finding Punk & Hardcore in Connecticut00:17:50 - FORCED REALITY, Pete’s First Band, Defining American Oi!00:14:28 - Jocko Willink & The Connecticut Skinhead Crew00:29:00 - Forced Reality S/T & Tours00:33:22 - Sean Martin00:34:57 - HIGHER FORCE, Connecticut’s First HARD Band00:39:42 - Higher Force’s Very Confusing Discography00:43:08 - Pete Morcey: Classically Trained Opera Singer00:48:00 - The End of Higher Force & Beginning of 100 DEMONS00:51:50 - Morcey’s Restaurant & The Tuna Pita00:54:00 - Pardon this interruption…00:57:03 - The Lost Higher Force LP00:59:27 - 100 DEMONS - Self-Titled01:08:36 - His Fathers Son to Cold Wind of the Crossroads01:14:50 - Recording New 100 Demons after 22 Years01:21:00 - Larry Dwyer’s Cinnamon Challenge01:24:24 - Growing as a Vocalist & Lyricist01:31:17 - Pete’s Haunted House01:37:35 - A Visit From Bo01:46:55 - Joining Blood for Blood01:54:50 - MURMUR (Pete’s Masterpiece)02:03:24 - IG! And the IGfits!02:10:13 - Pete’s Most Personal Creative Endeavor02:20:55 - Top 4 Hardcore Records
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Ray Cappo: Youth of Today, Shelter, Straight Edge & The Search for Spirituality
We’re back… HardLore returns with a very special episode in honor of our late co-host, friend, and brother, Bo Lueders. Youth of Today was Bo’s favorite hardcore band of all time, and a constant through-line on this show since the beginning. Now, we’re finally joined by YoT/Shelter vocalist and trailblazer of straight edge as a movement: RAY CAPPO, for a 3.5 hour career retrospective interview.It doesn’t end there, as our first ever guest co-host is also extra special, we’re joined by Harms Way vocalist James Pligge (aka “Youth Crew James”) to round out this perfect tribute to our fallen friend.We start from the very beginning in Danbury, CT, where Ray and Violent Children got a historic head-start from an opportune visit to a radio station, discovering Hare Krishna through Harley Flanagan, meeting Porcell and evolving into Youth of Today and spreading straight edge all around the world, thoroughly BREAK DOWN the Youth of Today discography, founding Revelation AND Equal Vision Records, and the spiritual path that lead to the end of Youth of Today and the humble origin of Shelter.The goal remains the same, carry on the love and dedication for our favorite bands that we’ve shown every week the last 4 years… But with the new mission of honoring Bo every step of the way. Enjoy._______________HardLore: A Knotfest Series, fueled by Monster Energy.Shot, mixed and edited by Steven GriseTitle sequence by Nicholas Marzluf• Join the HARDLORE PATREON to watch every single weekly episode early and ad-free, alongside exclusive monthly episodes.• Join the HARDLORE DISCORD• Get 10% off MILLS VINTAGE site-wide with code HARDLORE• Get 10% off GUILTY PARTY site-wide with code HARDLORE and grab some of our favorite clothing brands of all time.______________00:00:00 - Start00:03:09 - Discovering Punk And Hardcore00:10:00 - Violent Children & Darryl on the Radio00:17:50 - Harley Flanagan & Reflex From Pain00:29:24 - Porcell00:33:25 - Hare Krishna, Straight Edge & The Lower East Side00:39:09 - Youth of Today00:50:29 - Pardon This Interruption00:53:04 - Can’t Close My Eyes01:11:41 - Youth Crew as a Movement01:12:46 - We Just Might01:22:21 - Touring on Can’t Close My Eyes01:26:56 - Wishingwell Records01:29:42 - Break Down The Walls01:40:15 - Record Collecting & Trade Currency01:50:19 - Revelation Records01:57:00 - Break Down The Walls Cont.02:10:30 - Break Down The Walls Tour02:21:12 - The Girl Next Door Soundtrack02:22:25 - We're Not In This Alone02:39:48 - “No More” Music Video02:45:21 - We're Not In This Alone Tour, Formation of Shelter02:55:14 - Renouncing the World via Shelter03:02:09 - Equal Vision Records & Krishnacore03:05:00 - Mantra03:18:21 - Shelter After Mantra03:26:24 - Breaking Edge03:33:04 - Top 4 Hardcore Records of All Time
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