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Jake sits down with fire service veteran Corley Moore for a deep dive into firefighter mindset, mastery, and organizational culture. They unpack the core challenges of fire training: moving past minimum standards, confronting "hollow ego" and the Dunning-Kruger effect, and helping firefighters understand the life-or-death gravity of their craft. Moore outlines his "Passion Triangle" framework—heat (the calling), fuel (personal willpower and resilience), and oxygen (the surrounding network of peers)—to explain how enthusiasm burns out and how leaders can reignite it. The conversation emphasizes that competency is the bedrock of leadership, proving that lasting cultural change is driven not by administrative policy, but through relationships, shared values, and early adopters. Finally, the two reflect on the 25th anniversary of 9/11, honoring the enduring legacy of fallen mentors and the responsibility to carry the torch forward.KEY TOPICS COVERED• Moving from baseline compliance to true mastery and buy-in• Why extreme job competency acts as a primary shield against moral injury• Navigating the Dunning-Kruger effect, overconfidence, and "hollow ego"• Breaking down the Passion Triangle: Calling, Fuel, and Connection• Driving cultural buy-in through relationships rather than rulebooks• Honoring the legacy and impact of the 25th anniversary of 9/11GUEST BIO: CORLEY MOORECorley Moore is a 28-year fire service veteran, author, and widely recognized leadership instructor. He is the founder of Firehouse Vigilance and the host of The Weekly Scrap, a popular podcast dedicated to real talk, cultural growth, and professional excellence in the fire service. Known for developing impactful leadership concepts such as "The 9 L’s" and the "Passion Triangle," Moore travels nationally to teach firefighters and company officers how to build high-standard cultures through relational leadership, shared values, and unapologetic competence.CONNECT WITH CORLEY MOORE & FIREHOUSE VIGILANCE• Firehouse Vigilance Website: https://www.firehousevigilance.com• The Weekly Scrap Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-weekly-scrap-firefighter-podcast/id1518158884• Corley Moore on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/firehousevigilanceSPONSORS • HAIX Boots (Fire Eagle Air & Fire Eagle Extreme): https://www.haixusa.com• Rigaku Analytical Devices (CQL Gen-X / Handheld Raman Solutions): https://www.rigakuanalytical.com

Chief Curt “Ike” Isakson has spent more than three decades obsessed with the American fire service. In this episode of Hazard Class, he joins Jake for a deeply personal conversation about firefighting, leadership, mental health, resilience, family, and what it means to dedicate your life to the craft.Chief Ike opens up about the difficult end of his 25-year career with Escambia County Fire Rescue, the leadership conflicts and personal struggles that followed, and the mental health crisis that ultimately led him to the IAFF Center of Excellence. He discusses suicidal ideation, spending 42 days in treatment, and how that experience changed the way he views his career, family, leadership, and future.Now serving as Deputy Chief with Bay County Fire Rescue, Isakson describes what feels like the beginning of a new chapter. He discusses the rapid growth taking place in Bay County and his evolving leadership philosophy built around four ideas: caring, coaching, culture, and creativity.The conversation also examines one of the contradictions of a career in the fire service: how do you give everything you have to the job without allowing the job to become everything you have?Years ago, Isakson gave Jake a piece of advice that stuck with him: “The fire service will never love you back.” They revisit what that statement means after everything both men have experienced. Curt explains why firefighters should love the job, pursue competence, train relentlessly, and take pride in the profession while remembering that when the career ends, their family and relationships are what remain.As the 25th anniversary of September 11 approaches, Curt reflects on his connection to the FDNY, the influence of Andy Fredericks, and the responsibility of today's firefighters to remember those who came before them and carry their knowledge forward.That leads into a larger discussion about succession, mentorship, fire service culture, and why knowledge should be shared rather than guarded. The next generation should not simply preserve the fire service. They should make it better.The episode eventually returns to the place where Chief Ike has always felt most at home: the fireground.He explains why firefighting has always felt natural to him, why bunker gear once felt like putting on a Superman suit, and why decades later he still finds his greatest confidence with a hose line, Halligan, hook, axe, or saw in his hands.This is a conversation about surviving the valleys, appreciating the mountaintops, learning from bad leadership, becoming a better leader yourself, protecting your family from your obsession with the job, and never losing respect for the craft.Most importantly, it is a reminder that you can love the fire service with everything you have while still remembering there is a life beyond it.GUEST BIOChief Curt “Ike” Isakson is a veteran firefighter, fire officer, instructor, and fire service leader with more than three decades of experience in the American fire service.His career includes nine years with the Pensacola Fire Department and 25 years with Escambia County Fire Rescue, where he spent more than two decades serving as a battalion chief. In 2026, Isakson began a new chapter as Deputy Chief with Bay County Fire Rescue in Florida.Known throughout the fire service for his passion for engine company operations, fireground tactics, training, and firemanship, Isakson has spent decades studying the craft and learning from some of the most influential firefighters and fire officers in the profession.Despite the titles and decades of experience, Isakson still describes himself first and foremost as a fireman. His passion remains rooted in the fundamentals of the job: hose lines, nozzles, forcible entry, tools, fireground competency, and the relentless pursuit of becoming better at the craft.County Fire Tacticshttps://countyfiretactics.com/HAIXhttps://www.haixusa.com/Rigaku Analytical Deviceshttps://www.rigakuanalytical.com/

Stephanie White joins Hazard Class to discuss the future of the fire service, firefighter wellness, leadership, accountability, and what it takes to create meaningful change inside the firehouse.Stephanie spent nearly two decades as a firefighter and paramedic with Fairfax County Fire and Rescue before transitioning into fire service media as the Editor-in-Chief of Firefighter Nation. In this conversation, she gives an inside look at the process of selecting classes and instructors for FDIC, including the challenge of choosing from hundreds of submissions while trying to identify instructors who can provide real value to attendees.The conversation quickly moves beyond conferences and into some of the biggest cultural challenges facing the fire service today. Stephanie challenges the way the fire service talks about mental health, arguing that wellness should be viewed as a complete picture of a firefighter’s life, including sleep, physical health, family, organizational culture, and personal responsibility.Jake and Stephanie discuss accountability inside the firehouse, including the growing tendency to outsource interpersonal problems instead of solving them through communication, trust, and leadership. They explore how healthy firehouse cultures are built, why firefighters need permission to have difficult conversations, and how officers can create environments where members feel comfortable asking questions and admitting mistakes.Stephanie also shares her experience as a female firefighter entering the fire service at a young age, the challenges she faced, and the importance of having mentors and advocates who helped her navigate a traditionally male-dominated profession. She discusses the difference between unhealthy behavior that should be addressed and the process of earning trust and belonging within a firehouse culture.The episode closes with Stephanie reflecting on retirement, leaving the firehouse after 20 years, and her mission with Firefighter Nation: empowering firefighters at every level to realize they have the ability to influence and improve the fire service.This episode is a wide-ranging conversation about leadership, culture, wellness, accountability, and why the future of the fire service depends on firefighters taking ownership of the profession they love.GUEST BIO:Stephanie White is the Editor-in-Chief of Firefighter Nation and a longtime voice in the fire service community. Before moving into fire service media, Stephanie spent nearly two decades as a firefighter and paramedic with Fairfax County Fire and Rescue Department in Virginia.Throughout her career, Stephanie has been involved in firefighter training, peer support, leadership development, and conversations surrounding firefighter wellness and organizational culture. She has contributed to fire service education through writing, podcasting, and speaking engagements, with a focus on helping firefighters create stronger teams and healthier firehouses.As Editor-in-Chief of Firefighter Nation, Stephanie works to amplify firefighter voices, share practical solutions, and provide a platform where members of the fire service can learn from one another regardless of rank or position. She believes that every firefighter has the ability to influence the future of the profession.CONNECT WITH STEPHANIE WHITEFirefighter Nationhttps://www.firefighternation.com/Firefighter Nation Social Mediahttps://www.facebook.com/FirefighterNationhttps://www.instagram.com/firefighternation/EPISODE RESOURCESFDIC Internationalhttps://www.fdic.com/Fire Engineeringhttps://www.fireengineering.com/SPONSORSHAIX USAhttps://www.haixusa.com/Rigaku Analytical Deviceshttps://rigakuanalytical.com/

Jake sits down with Austin Beier and Taylor Hayes from the Heart of the Lakes Fire Summit to talk firefighter training, firemanship, search tactics, hose and nozzle selection, and building a stronger training culture in the fire service.The Heart of the Lakes Fire Summit was created to bring high-level regional and national fire service instructors to firefighters in Minnesota who may not otherwise have easy access to that level of training. Now entering its third year, the conference is expanding in 2026 with hands-on training in engine company operations and forcible entry.But this conversation goes well beyond the conference.Austin and Taylor discuss their experiences across the volunteer, paid-on-call, and career fire service and why every firefighter has a responsibility to maintain competency regardless of department size or employment status. They dig into complacency, getting outside the walls of your own firehouse, learning from failure, owning mistakes, and challenging the "this is how we've always done it" mentality.The conversation also gets tactical. Austin explains why firefighters need to be proficient at searching without a hose line, while Taylor dives into why hose, nozzle, flow, pressure, and pump operations need to work together as a complete attack package.That leads into a deeper discussion about smooth bore vs. combination nozzles, automatic fog nozzles, fire flow, nozzle reaction, hose selection, primary search, engine company operations, truck work, and the difficulty of changing deeply rooted fire department practices.Ultimately, this episode is about becoming a more competent firefighter by questioning assumptions, training through failure, learning from others, and refusing to let experience become an excuse to stop improving.Austin Beier is a firefighter and organizer of the Heart of the Lakes Fire Summit. He began his fire service career as a paid-on-call firefighter in Wadena, Minnesota, later became a volunteer firefighter in Osakis, and is currently a career firefighter in Moorhead. His experience spans the paid-on-call, volunteer, and career fire service.Search is one of Austin's primary tactical passions, particularly developing firefighter competency and confidence in searching structures independently of a hose line. Through Heart of the Lakes, he works to expand access to advanced firefighter training throughout Minnesota.Taylor Hayes is a firefighter and organizer of the Heart of the Lakes Fire Summit in Alexandria, Minnesota. He began his fire service career in 2013 as a volunteer firefighter in Bloomington before moving to Alexandria and later joining the Alexandria Fire Department.Taylor is involved in community and public education and is a strong advocate for firefighters seeking training outside their own departments. His tactical interests include truck company operations, apparatus placement, aerial operations, hose and nozzle selection, and engine company effectiveness.Through the Heart of the Lakes Fire Summit, Taylor works to bring regional and national-level fire service education to Minnesota and create opportunities for firefighters to challenge established practices and continue improving throughout their careers.HEART OF THE LAKES FIRE SUMMITConference Info: https://www.firenuggets.com/classes/heart-of-the-lakes-fire-summit-262026 Registration: https://firenuggets.regfox.com/26-hotlfsSPONSORSHAIXhttps://www.haixusa.com/RIGAKU ANALYTICAL DEVICEShttps://www.rigakuanalytical.com/

Jeremy Donch has built National Fire Radio into one of the most recognizable voices in the American fire service, but this conversation isn't about how he built a podcast. It's about what comes with having a voice people actually listen to.Jeremy joins Jake for a raw conversation about the changing culture and identity of the modern fire service. They dig into authenticity in the age of social media, the difference between genuine influence and chasing attention, confidence versus empty bravado, personal accountability, leadership, competition, and why experience and competence still matter.The conversation also tackles some of the harder questions facing today's firehouse. Are we becoming too corporate? Have we blurred the line between being a buddy and being a boss? Are we punishing people for making decisions while simultaneously asking them to show more initiative? And as departments take on more responsibilities, are we losing sight of the core mission that brought us here in the first place?Jeremy also opens up about ego, loneliness, relationships, and the responsibility that comes with reaching a massive audience. Ultimately, this is a conversation about what the modern fire service is becoming, what we may be losing along the way, and why Jeremy believes we need to put firemanship first.Jeremy Donch is the founder and voice behind National Fire Radio, a fire-service media platform built around honest conversations about leadership, culture, tradition, and the American fire service.Since launching National Fire Radio in 2018, Jeremy has developed a large audience across podcasting and social media while remaining focused on what he considers the mission behind the platform: bringing value to firefighters and protecting the core values and traditions of the job.Beyond National Fire Radio, Jeremy brings experience as a firefighter, leader, manager, teacher, entrepreneur, and business owner. His perspective blends lessons from the firehouse and fireground with decades of experience managing people in the private sector.Rather than presenting himself as an expert on every aspect of the job, Jeremy has built his reputation around speaking candidly about the areas he knows best: leadership, management, fire service culture, history, tradition, and personal accountability.At the center of his message is a simple philosophy: stay authentic, know your lane, take responsibility for your actions, and never lose sight of what it means to be a fireman.NATIONAL FIRE RADIOWebsite: https://nationalfireradio.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/national_fire_radio/Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/nationalfireradioTikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@nationalfireradioLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/national-fire-radio/EPISODE SPONSORSHAIX: https://www.haixusa.com/Rigaku Analytical Devices: https://www.rigakuanalytical.com/

Dr. Candace Ashby has spent more than 40 years in the fire service, and she's convinced the biggest threat facing today's fire departments isn't what's burning. It's the culture inside the firehouse.In this episode, Candace shares the unlikely story that took her from a troubled teenager to Battalion Chief with the Indianapolis Fire Department before diving into the leadership lessons she learned the hard way. We discuss why company officers hold more influence than any fire chief, the difference between accountability and punishment, why communication breaks down inside organizations, and how fire departments can rebuild trust, ownership, and brotherhood.If you've ever been frustrated by toxic station politics, ineffective leadership, or the "us versus them" mentality between administration and operations, this conversation offers practical advice for creating a healthier culture from the kitchen table to the fireground.GUEST BIO:Dr. Candace Ashby is a Battalion Chief with the Indianapolis Fire Department and has served in the fire service for more than four decades. She holds a Doctorate in Management and Organizational Leadership and is the founder of Elite Public Safety Consulting, where she helps fire departments improve leadership, organizational culture, and officer development. Known for her direct, practical teaching style, Candace has become one of the fire service's most respected voices on accountability, communication, and building high-performing organizations.ELITE Public Safety Consulting⁠https://www.elitepublicsafety.com/⁠LinkedIn⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-candace-ashby-iaai-cfi-cfei-cfii-cvfi-mifiree-5010091a/⁠Episode SponsorsHAIX USAhttps://www.haixusa.comRigaku Analytical Deviceshttps://rigakuanalytical.com

James Geering's path to the fire service is anything but conventional. Raised on a farm in England, he pursued careers as a stunt performer before immigrating to the United States and ultimately becoming a firefighter and paramedic. In this episode, James shares the experiences that shaped his perspective, the lessons learned from serving in multiple fire departments across the country, and how those experiences led him to create the internationally recognized Behind The Shield Podcast.The conversation explores firefighter wellness far beyond fitness. James explains why sleep deprivation, cumulative stress, organizational culture, and outdated scheduling models are driving many of the profession's biggest challenges, including burnout, cancer, injury, divorce, and suicide. He makes the case for the 24/72 shift schedule, discusses why recruitment and retention problems are symptoms of larger systemic issues, and outlines how departments can improve both firefighter performance and long-term health through evidence-based leadership.Jake and James also examine the power of long-form podcasting, the importance of meaningful human connection, and why difficult conversations are essential if the fire service hopes to evolve. This episode is an honest, thought-provoking discussion about leadership, resilience, and building a healthier future for the next generation of firefighters.Guest BioJames Geering is a former firefighter, paramedic, strength and conditioning coach, and the creator and host of the Behind The Shield Podcast, one of the most respected podcasts in the fire service and tactical performance communities. Over nearly 1,300 episodes, he has interviewed world-leading experts in medicine, psychology, military special operations, leadership, fitness, sleep science, and emergency services. Today, James is a leading advocate for firefighter health, performance, and organizational change, dedicating his work to improving recruitment, retention, mental health, and longevity across the fire service through free, evidence-based education.CONNECT WITH JAMES GEERINGBehind The Shield Podcasthttps://www.behindtheshieldpodcast.com/Instagramhttps://www.instagram.com/behindtheshield911/Facebookhttps://www.facebook.com/behindtheshield911/YouTubehttps://www.youtube.com/@BehindTheShieldPodcastLinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/james-geering/SPONSORSHAIX USAhttps://www.haixusa.com/Rigaku Analytical Deviceshttps://www.rigakuanalytical.com/FOLLOW THE HAZ MAT GUYSWebsitehttps://thehazmatguys.comTraininghttps://training.thehazmatguys.com

After eight weeks of following Firefighter Peak Performance, Jake sits down with coach Ryan Provencher to review the results, lessons learned, and what's next. Rather than talking about what the program should do, this episode focuses on what it actually did, including nearly 20 pounds of weight loss, improved body composition, measurable gains in firefighter specific performance, and the challenges of balancing fitness with the unpredictable reality of shift work.Ryan explains why firefighter fitness should be built around movement patterns, work capacity, recovery, and cognitive performance instead of traditional bodybuilding or gym routines. Together, Jake and Ryan discuss the Firefighter Tactical Fitness Assessment, the importance of managing intensity instead of constantly redlining, breathing techniques that improve efficiency, and why documenting workouts is just as important as completing them.The conversation also dives deep into nutrition, sustainable meal planning, body recomposition, the 80/20 NET Scoring System, and why consistency beats perfection every time. They explore how firefighters can build fitness programs that actually fit their schedules, remove common barriers to healthy eating, and create habits that last well beyond a temporary weight loss phase.The discussion expands into larger issues facing the fire service, including tactical athlete culture, firefighter wellness initiatives, academy standards, hiring philosophies, fitness requirements, and how departments can develop healthier firefighters without relying on punitive fitness testing. Whether you're looking to improve your own health or rethink how departments approach firefighter wellness, this episode offers practical, experience based strategies that can be applied immediately.GUEST OVERVIEW:Ryan Provencher is the founder of Firefighter Peak Performance and a retired Training Chief with decades of experience developing firefighter fitness, wellness, and performance programs. Combining a background in exercise science with a career in the fire service, Ryan specializes in helping firefighters improve strength, endurance, mobility, nutrition, recovery, and long term health through evidence based, job specific training.His Tactical Athlete philosophy focuses on preparing firefighters for the physical and cognitive demands of emergency response while creating sustainable fitness and nutrition habits that improve performance both on and off the fireground.Ryan Provencherhttps://www.firefighterpeakperformance.comFirefighter Peak Performance Coachinghttps://www.firefighterpeakperformance.com/coachingFirefighter Peak Performance Blog & Resourceshttps://www.firefighterpeakperformance.com/blogFirefighter Peak Performance Educationhttps://www.firefighterpeakperformance.com/educationFirefighter Peak Performance on LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/company/firefighter-peak-performance/HAIX USAhttps://www.haixusa.comRigaku Analytical Deviceshttps://www.rigakuanalytical.com

This is not your typical episode of The Hazard Class Podcast.For this special bonus mini episode, we're doing things a little differently. Jake recently had the once-in-a-lifetime privilege of flying with Major Sam "RaZZ" Larson of the U.S. Air Force Thunderbirds, and throughout this episode, actual in-flight footage from Jake's flight with "RaZZ" serves as the backdrop for their conversation. You'll see the real experience unfold while hearing directly from the pilot who was in the cockpit with him."RaZZ", a former F-22 Raptor pilot who transitioned to the F-16 and joined the Thunderbirds as Thunderbird 8, shares his journey from watching air shows as a kid in Iowa to flying with one of the most recognizable demonstration teams in the world. He also discusses the history and mission of the Thunderbirds and their role as ambassadors representing the Air Force and the United States.Then, Jake and "RaZZ" break down their flight together. From a max-afterburner quick-climb takeoff to low-level sneak passes, flying over Duluth, joining the Thunderbirds in formation, experiencing the Delta Burst, pulling 9Gs, and even giving Jake the controls of the F-16, "RaZZ" explains exactly what went into an experience that is almost impossible to put into words.But this episode goes beyond the flight itself.Jake and "RaZZ" dig into the culture behind the Thunderbirds and the lessons that can be applied far beyond aviation. They discuss why Thunderbird debriefs can last many times longer than the flights themselves, the importance of leaving rank and ego at the door, openly admitting mistakes, and constantly working to become better as individuals and as a team. "RaZZ" also explains the surprising balance between precision and fun within the Thunderbirds, including how their unique radio communications help maintain safety and synchronization while keeping the energy high.It's a short, unconventional episode about flying fast, pulling 9Gs, chasing perfection, learning from mistakes, building elite teams, and never losing sight of just how incredible it is to do something you love.For the full experience, this is one you'll want to watch on YouTube or Spotify Video.

Nutrition advice is everywhere, but how much of it actually applies to first responders?In this episode of The Hazard Class Podcast, registered dietitian and RescueRD founder Megan Lautz returns to separate fact from fiction when it comes to firefighter nutrition, performance, and long-term health. The conversation explores why crash diets fail, how to build sustainable eating habits in an unpredictable profession, and why many firefighters unknowingly sabotage their own performance through unrealistic expectations.Megan also tackles some of today's biggest nutrition debates, including GLP-1 weight loss medications, energy drinks, protein intake, body recomposition, meal timing, organic foods, processed foods, and the role of convenience foods on shift. Along the way, she shares practical strategies firefighters can actually use, from improving station eating habits to making smarter choices during busy shifts without chasing the latest fad diet.Whether you're trying to lose weight, improve fitness, perform better on the fireground, or simply build healthier habits that last, this episode delivers evidence-based guidance tailored specifically to the realities of emergency responders. Guest OverviewMegan Lautz is an award-winning registered dietitian, strength coach, and the founder of RescueRD, where she specializes in nutrition and performance for firefighters, law enforcement officers, EMS personnel, and other first responders. After serving as an embedded fire department dietitian, she now works full-time with departments across the country, helping agencies improve health, fitness, and operational readiness through practical, science-backed nutrition strategies. Megan is also the team dietitian for the Baltimore Orioles and the author of the upcoming firefighter nutrition book Fueling Fire. RescueRD Websitehttps://www.rescuerd.comRescue RD CHALLENGE!https://www.rescuerd.com/free-challenge.htmlNutrition Coaching & Department Serviceshttps://www.rescuerd.com/departments.htmlInstagramhttps://www.instagram.com/rescue.rd/LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/meganlautz/Thanks to our sponsors!Rigaku Analytical Devices:www.RigakuAnalytical.comHIAX Boots:www.HIAXUSA.com

What actually happens when firefighters rescue people from burning buildings, and what does the data tell us that decades of tradition never could?In this episode of Hazard Class, I sit down with Jeff Bryant, President of Fire Nuggets, member of the Brothers in Battle cadre, and one of the driving forces behind the Firefighter Rescue Survey. We dive into the research that's changing the way the fire service thinks about search, rescue, victim survivability, and firefighter training.Jeff shares his journey from growing up in a firefighter family to becoming a nationally recognized instructor and advocate for evidence-based fireground tactics. We discuss firefighter recruitment, the shortcomings of traditional Firefighter I & II curriculums, training scars, search techniques, victim location data, thermal imaging, engine company operations, and why collecting real-world rescue data matters.If you're passionate about improving fireground performance, challenging outdated assumptions, and making more successful rescues, this is an episode you won't want to miss.Guest BioJeff Bryant is a third-generation firefighter with the Aurora, Illinois Fire Department, where he has served on both engine and truck companies since 2014. He began his fire service career as a volunteer in 2007 and has become widely recognized for his work in firefighter rescue research, education, and operational training.Jeff serves as President of Fire Nuggets, is a member of the Brothers in Battle instructional cadre, and plays a leading role in the Firefighter Rescue Survey, helping collect and analyze firefighter rescue data from across North America. His work focuses on improving search operations, victim survivability, firefighter rescue tactics, and evidence-based fireground decision-making. Jeff regularly instructs at conferences and training events across the country, helping firefighters translate real rescue data into better outcomes on the fireground.Firefighter Rescue SurveyLearn more about the survey, report firefighter rescues, and explore the data driving evidence-based fireground tactics.Firefighter Rescue Survey FAQAnswers common questions about the survey, how rescues are defined, and how the data is collected.Firefighter Rescue Survey: About the ProjectBackground on the mission, history, and contributors behind the Firefighter Rescue Survey.Fire NuggetsJeff Bryant serves as President of Fire Nuggets, a nonprofit dedicated to providing high-impact firefighter training nationwide.Jeff Bryant Instructor ProfileJeff's instructor bio, current assignments, affiliations, and areas of instruction.Fire Nuggets Classes & EventsFind upcoming classes taught by Jeff Bryant and other nationally recognized instructors.THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS!Rigaku Analytical Devices:www.rigakuanalytical.comHIAX Boots:www.HIAXUSA.com

In honor of America's 250th Birthday, we take a hard left turn from emergency services and dive headfirst into the wild world of monster trucks!Jake sits down with husband-and-wife monster truck drivers Paul and Kaila Strong for an inside look at what it really takes to build, race, crash, and survive in one of motorsports’ most chaotic arenas. Paul shares his incredible story of how a difficult season in life, while spending years at the hospital with his premature twin daughters, unexpectedly led him to discover monster trucks and completely change the course of his life.From quitting a stable software career to chasing teams, buying their first truck, and learning everything the hard way, Paul and Kaila break down the reality behind the sport: the mechanics, the crashes, the cost, and the adrenaline.Kaila also shares the story behind becoming the first female driver to successfully land a monster truck backflip, including the nerves, the risk, and the unforgettable moment the stadium erupted.The conversation dives deep into how monster trucks are actually driven, how drivers use rear steer, throttle, and brakes to control the truck in midair, what parts break the most, and how the sport has evolved from old-school car-crushing chaos into the polished arena spectacle fans know today.They also talk about their newest venture: the Monster Truck Driving School at Horsepower Park in North Carolina, where fans can finally stop wondering what it feels like and actually find out for themselves.This one is pure gearhead fun. If you’ve ever wondered what it’s like to send 12,000 pounds flying through the air, this episode is for youGuest Bios:Paul Strong is a veteran monster truck driver with nearly 20 years behind the wheel. Since starting in 2005, he has driven for major promotions including Monster Jam and currently pilots Quad Chaos on the Monster X Tour. Beyond competition, Paul co-owns Horsepower Park in North Carolina and is helping launch one of the first dedicated Monster Truck Driving Schools in the country.Kaila Strong is a professional monster truck driver and trailblazer in the sport. In 2011, she became the first woman in history to land a monster truck backflip, cementing her place in motorsports history. Alongside Paul, she continues to compete, build trucks, and help grow the next generation of monster truck fans and drivers through Horsepower Park and their new driving school.MONSTER TRUCK DRIVING SCHOOL:https://monsterfreestyle.com/Rigaku Analytical Devices:www.RigakuAnalytical.comHIAX Boots:www.HIAXUSA.com

Jake sits down with Dr. Dan Madrzykowski, one of the most respected minds in fire science, for a conversation focused on the gap between fireground tradition and research-backed tactics.Drawing from more than 30 years of fire research, Dan walks through the evolution of modern fire dynamics and how major incidents, firefighter fatalities, and large-scale testing helped reshape the way we understand ventilation, suppression, and fire behavior. The discussion explores ventilation-limited fires, flow path management, wind-driven fires, transitional attack, search tactics, and the science behind interior versus exterior water application.They also tackle some of the fire service’s most debated topics, including fog versus smooth bore nozzles, positive pressure ventilation, the “power cone” myth, and why many long-standing firefighting beliefs continue to persist despite clear scientific evidence.This episode is a deep but practical look at how firefighters can make better decisions on the fireground by understanding the why behind the tactics, not just the how. If you care about firefighter survival, smarter suppression, and evolving with the modern fire environment, this is an episode you do not want to miss.Guest Overview:Dr. Dan Madrzykowski is a leading fire protection engineer and one of the most influential fire researchers in the world. He currently serves as Senior Director of Research at the Fire Safety Research Institute (FSRI).He spent more than three decades at the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST), where he authored over 85 technical reports, studies, and book chapters focused on fire behavior, suppression tactics, and firefighter safety.Throughout his career, Dan has played a key role in some of the most impactful fire service research projects in North America, including studies on wind-driven fires, ventilation-limited fire behavior, search and rescue operations, and tactical fire attack. His work has directly helped shape modern firefighting strategy and continues to influence departments around the world.FSRI.org  Access to all of our research activities including Battery Fire Safety (FF tactics, exposure hazards, and decon), data science and NERIS, firefighter health and safety, fire modeling and materials, and WUI.  Training.fsri.orgFire Safety Academy which offers free online training courses and downloadable resources that instructors may want to incorporate into their classes. Below are links to specific material covered in our conversation:https://training.fsri.org/course/109/evidence-based-structural-firefightinghttps://training.fsri.org/resources/228/cherry-road-fire-isfsi-and-ul-fsri-understanding-and-fighting-basement-fireshttps://training.fsri.org/resources/94/understanding-flow-paths-low-intake-and-high-exhausthttps://training.fsri.org/resources/409/residential-fire-near-miss-in-lagrange-ga-incident-videoHIAXUSA.comRIgakuAnalytical.Com

Jake sits down with veteran firefighter, captain, and founder of Crackyl Magazine, Kory Pearn, for a candid conversation about firefighter wellness, burnout, identity, leadership, and life beyond the firehouse.Drawing from more than two decades in the fire service and his own near-fatal health crisis, Kory shares the lessons that transformed his perspective on work, family, health, and personal responsibility. Together, Jake and Kory explore the challenges facing firefighter recruitment and retention, the importance of vulnerability and self-awareness, the realities of firefighter marriages, and why firefighters must intentionally build lives outside of the job.The discussion also dives into the philosophy behind Crackyl Magazine, how healthy cultures are built at the kitchen table, and why firefighters need to take ownership of their own wellness rather than waiting for someone else to solve the problem.Whether you're a new recruit, company officer, chief officer, or a firefighter approaching retirement, this episode offers practical insights into building a career that doesn't come at the expense of your health, family, or future. Kory Pearn is a veteran firefighter captain with more than 20 years of service and the founder and Editor-in-Chief of Crackyl Magazine, one of the fire service's leading publications focused on firefighter wellness, leadership, fitness, mental health, relationships, and career longevity.After experiencing a life-altering health crisis that nearly ended both his career and his life, Kory dedicated himself to helping firefighters better understand the challenges that exist beyond the fireground. Through Crackyl Magazine, speaking engagements, and his upcoming book Firefighter Sigma, he continues to advocate for healthier, more sustainable careers in the fire service.Kory shares how years of overcommitment, stress, and constantly taking on more responsibilities eventually led to a serious health crisis that forced him to completely reevaluate his priorities. While departments and leadership have responsibilities to create healthy environments, Kory argues that individual firefighters must ultimately take ownership of how they show up for work, their families, and themselves. The conversation explores how honesty, transparency, and vulnerability help build stronger relationships both inside and outside the firehouse. Kory explains that the goal isn't perfect balance but rather finding a sustainable rhythm that allows firefighters to succeed professionally while maintaining healthy relationships and personal fulfillment. Crackyl MagazineFirefighter Sigma by Kory PearnHAIX USARigaku Analytical DevicesHazard Class PodcastThe Haz Mat Guys WebsiteThe Haz Mat Guys Podcast

Jake sits down with Dr. Doug Olson, board-certified emergency physician, aviation medicine specialist, and Medical Director for Phoenix Air, to explore one of the most remarkable medical operations in modern history: the airborne evacuation of Ebola patients during the 2014 West Africa outbreak. Building on a previous conversation with author Kevin Hazard (No One's Coming), Jake shifts the focus from the storyteller to one of the individuals who lived the events firsthand. The conversation traces Dr. Olson's journey from emergency medicine and tactical law enforcement support into the world of aviation medicine and international medical transport. Along the way, he shares how Phoenix Air became a critical part of the global Ebola response and how a small team of medical professionals, pilots, and support personnel developed procedures that would redefine airborne biocontainment transport. As the discussion unfolds, Jake and Dr. Olson dive into the realities of caring for critically ill patients at altitude, the unique challenges of transporting highly infectious diseases, and the intense operational planning required to protect crews, patients, and the public. Dr. Olson provides a firsthand account of the decision-making, risks, and lessons learned from missions that were unprecedented at the time. Beyond the technical aspects, the episode offers a deeply personal look at service, leadership, patriotism, and the emotional impact of bringing desperately ill humanitarian workers home for advanced medical care. It is a fascinating examination of what happens when emergency medicine, aviation, hazardous materials response, and global public health intersect under extraordinary circumstances. Dr. Doug Olson is a board-certified emergency physician and aviation medicine specialist with decades of experience in emergency medicine, tactical medicine, operational medicine, and critical care transport. Throughout his career, he has worked alongside local and federal law enforcement agencies, supported international missions, and helped develop medical capabilities in some of the most challenging operational environments imaginable. During the 2014 Ebola outbreak, Dr. Olson played a key role in Phoenix Air's groundbreaking biocontainment transport program. Working with a multidisciplinary team, he helped develop and refine procedures for safely transporting patients infected with one of the world's most feared pathogens across international borders and into advanced treatment facilities in the United States. His unique combination of emergency medicine expertise, aviation experience, and operational planning made him an integral part of a historic response effort that demonstrated highly infectious patients could be safely transported while protecting medical crews and the public.Purchase the Book:https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/kevin-hazzard/no-one%E2%80%99s-coming/9780306835186/?utm_source=chatgpt.comHIAX Boots:www.HIAXUSA.comRigaku Analytical Devices:www.RigakuAnalytical.com

In this episode of Hazard Class, Jake sits down with bestselling author, former Atlanta paramedic, journalist, and television writer Kevin Hazzard to discuss his gripping new book, No One's Coming. Known for his acclaimed works A Thousand Naked Strangers and American Sirens, Hazzard has built a reputation for uncovering the untold stories of emergency medicine and the extraordinary people who answer the call when others won't. The conversation takes listeners behind the scenes of one of the most remarkable medical rescue operations in modern history—the evacuation of Ebola patients from West Africa during the devastating 2014 outbreak. Kevin shares how he discovered the story through the team at Phoenix Air and spent years interviewing pilots, physicians, nurses, engineers, and aid workers to reconstruct the dramatic mission. Together, Jake and Kevin explore the challenges of turning complex real-world events into compelling narrative nonfiction, the psychology of healthcare providers who willingly enter high-risk environments, and the critical role preparation plays when disaster strikes. They also discuss the parallels between Ebola, COVID-19, and other public health emergencies, the recurring cycles of fear and misinformation that accompany disease outbreaks, and why some individuals are drawn to the most demanding and dangerous corners of emergency response. Along the way, Kevin offers a fascinating look into his writing process, from conducting hundreds of hours of interviews to adapting his books for film and television.Whether you're a firefighter, paramedic, healthcare professional, pilot, emergency manager, or simply a fan of incredible true stories, this episode delivers a powerful examination of courage, service, leadership, and the people willing to risk everything when lives are on the line.Connect with Kevin HazzardFormer paramedic, bestselling author, and storyteller Kevin Hazzard writes about emergency medicine, public service, and the extraordinary people who answer the call when others won't.Website: kevinhazzard.comInstagram: @kevinhazzardauthorFacebook: Kevin Hazzard Author PageTHANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS!HIAX BOOTS:www.hiaxusa.comRigiaku Analytical:www.RigiakuAnalytical.com

Jake sits down with acclaimed filmmaker Tom Putnam and retired Los Angeles County Fire Department Assistant Chief Steve Martin to discuss their groundbreaking documentary Into the Unknown: A Paramedic’s Journey. Known for the award-winning firefighter documentaries Burn and Burn X, Tom Putnam returns with an unfiltered, emotionally charged look at the realities of modern EMS and paramedicine in America. The film follows paramedics, EMTs, dispatchers, and emergency responders across multiple U.S. departments, capturing real emergency calls, mental health struggles, staffing shortages, PTSD, and the growing pressures placed on first responders. Throughout the conversation, Jake, Tom, and Steve dive deep into the challenges facing the American EMS system, including burnout, increasing call volumes, broken healthcare safety nets, and the emotional toll of repeated trauma exposure. They also discuss the years-long process of filming inside active emergency scenes, overcoming HIPAA and legal barriers, and creating a documentary that authentically portrays life on the ambulance without sensationalism. The episode highlights how Into the Unknown aims to educate the public, support mental health awareness for first responders, improve EMS recruitment, and provide lawmakers and communities with an honest look at what paramedics face every day. Tom and Steve also explain the film’s Kickstarter campaign, plans for theatrical screenings, digital release strategy, and how fire departments and communities can help bring the documentary to audiences nationwide.FILM LINKS:www.intotheunknowndoc.comhttps://www.kickstarter.com/projects/intotheunknowndoc/into-the-unknown-the-paramedic-documentarySponsor Links:www.haixusa.comwww.rigakuanalytical.com

Jake sits down with retired Battalion Chief Ryan Provencher for a deep conversation about firefighter fitness, resilience, leadership, and what it truly means to sustain a long and healthy career in the fire service. With more than 30 years in the fire service, Ryan shares his journey from volunteer firefighter to operations battalion chief, training chief, paramedic, safety officer, and nationally recognized advocate for firefighter wellness and tactical fitness. The conversation explores the evolution of firefighter culture, hiring standards, recruit training, mental health, and why firefighters should begin thinking of themselves as tactical athletes. Jake also opens up about his own recent struggles with stress, mental health, and losing focus on fitness after treatment at the Center of Excellence. Together, Jake and Ryan launch a 16-week firefighter transformation journey focused on rebuilding performance, improving health, and creating sustainable habits through the Firefighter Peak Performance model. ​Why Ryan chose the fire service and how fitness shaped his career​What firefighter hiring looked like in the 1990s versus today​The importance of self-awareness and situational awareness in recruits​Why academy performance often predicts career performance​The shift toward viewing firefighters as tactical athletes​How firefighter fitness programs should mirror professional sports performance models​The problem with random workouts and “smoke session” PT​Preventing injuries during recruit academies​Firefighter culture, wellness, recovery, and mental resilience​The role of unions, departments, and individuals in firefighter health​Ryan’s vision for the future of firefighter wellness programs​Jake’s 16-week “fat to fit” firefighter transformation journeyRyan explains that firefighter wellness is far more than just gym workouts or body composition. True performance includes sleep, nutrition, recovery, stress management, behavioral health, and long-term resilience. He argues that departments should approach firefighter health the same way professional sports organizations approach athlete performance. The episode also dives into leadership and accountability in recruit academies, discussing why departments must maintain clear standards while simultaneously providing meaningful support and coaching for firefighters at every stage of their careers. RYAN PROVENCHER:is a retired operations battalion chief with over three decades of fire service experience. He holds a Bachelor of Science in Exercise Science with a minor in Nutrition from Washington State University and is the founder of Firefighter Peak Performance, a coaching and consulting platform focused on firefighter fitness, mobility, resilience, and career longevity. He also serves as Executive Fitness Advisor for CRACKYL Magazine. Ryan's Links:Firefighter Peak Performance Website CRACKYL Magazine Coaching ProgramsEducation PlatformFacebookInstagramLinkedInYouTube

Jake welcomes firefighter, podcaster, and media creator Tyler DeLuca for a wide-ranging conversation about the volunteer fire service, leadership, firehouse culture, and the future of firefighter media.Tyler shares his unconventional path into firefighting — a decision that started almost as a joke while hanging out in the woods with friends on Long Island — before quickly turning into a lifelong passion. He discusses the adrenaline and camaraderie that hooked him early, how the fire service helped him overcome anxiety, and the importance of teamwork and mentorship throughout his career.The conversation dives deep into the challenges facing volunteer departments today, including declining volunteerism, rising living costs, leadership failures, and generational shifts in commitment and recruitment. Tyler offers candid insight into leadership in the firehouse, emphasizing communication, mentorship, emotional intelligence, and handling conflict through private conversations instead of public confrontation.Jake and Tyler also discuss the differences between volunteer and career fire service culture, expectations around training and professionalism, and the critical importance of maintaining standards regardless of pay status.The episode closes with Tyler explaining the origins of the Volly House Podcast and the vision behind Command Media Network — a growing platform aimed at bringing together firefighter-focused podcasts, training resources, and authentic firehouse conversations that go beyond tactics and tradition. The two also announce their upcoming collaboration, The Out of Service Podcast, which promises a more humorous and unfiltered look at life around the firehouse.HIAX Boots:www.HaixUSA.comRigaku Analytical Devices:www.RigakuAnalytical.com

In this episode of the Hazard Class Podcast, we sit down with FDNY veteran Tony Perrone to explore his journey from small-town volunteer firefighter to hazmat specialist in one of the busiest fire departments in the world.With over 19 years of service in the FDNY, Tony shares how he transitioned from aspiring lawyer to becoming a HazMat Technician at Engine 44 in Manhattan, and what it takes to operate at a high level in both firefighting and hazardous materials response.This episode dives deep into:-The realities of joining the FDNY in the aftermath of 9/11-The challenges of mastering hazmat operations versus traditional firefighting-How elite instructors train the next generation of responders-The importance of humility, adaptability, and continuous learning in emergency servicesTony also discusses his role as a lead instructor in the FDNY HazMat Technician program and owner of Downrange Ops Hazmat Training, offering insight into how hazmat education is evolving across the country. Tony Perrone is a highly respected figure in the hazmat and fire service community, known for his operational experience, instructional expertise, and passion for developing others.Tony is known for:-Making complex hazmat topics accessible and practical-Blending real-world experience with humor and relatability-Emphasizing broad competency over narrow specialization-Creating buy-in from students, even those initially resistant to hazmat training

In this episode of the Dueling Mustache Conspiracy Hour, host Jake Ryks and The Salty Paramedic explore the mystery of Bigfoot sightings in Kentucky and Appalachia with renowned investigator Charlie Raymond. As the founder of the Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization, Raymond shares insights from over 800 eyewitness reports and decades of field research.The conversation dives into the world of cryptozoology, examining whether Bigfoot is a myth, a misidentified animal, or an undiscovered hominid species potentially linked to ancient humans like the Denisovans. The episode covers Bigfoot behavior, intelligence, and physical evidence including footprints, DNA samples, and vocalizations.Key topics include:Why Bigfoot sightings are common in forested regions like KentuckyThe possibility of Bigfoot living near human populations undetectedTheories of government involvement or cover-upsAnalysis of famous cases such as the Patterson-Gimlin footageWhy modern technology hasn’t produced more definitive proofWhether you’re a skeptic or a believer, this episode offers a detailed look at one of America’s most enduring mysteries. Charlie Raymond is a leading Bigfoot researcher and founder of the Kentucky Bigfoot Research Organization.With more than 30 years of experience, he has:Investigated hundreds of Bigfoot sightings across AppalachiaConducted over 800 eyewitness interviews, including law enforcement and military witnessesCollected and analyzed physical evidence such as tracks, hair samples, and environmental interactionsRaymond’s work centers on the idea that Bigfoot may be a highly intelligent, flesh-and-blood hominid species that has adapted to avoid human detection. He is also a featured speaker at events like the Red River Gorge Bigfoot Festival, where he shares his research and field experiences with the public.Known for his credibility and measured approach, Raymond focuses on evidence-based investigation and careful evaluation of eyewitness testimony.

Jake sits down with Logan Harris, founder and CEO of Spotter Global, to explore the rapidly evolving world of advanced radar technology, drone detection, and critical infrastructure security.From building homemade radios as a kid to leading one of the most innovative compact radar companies, Logan shares his journey into electrical engineering, defense technology, and entrepreneurship—including how the September 11 attacks reshaped his career and inspired him to develop solutions for national security.This episode dives deep into how radar works vs. LiDAR, breaking down complex concepts into simple terms while explaining why radar is essential for detecting threats in challenging environments like fog, dust, and low-altitude airspace. Logan also explains how small, portable radar systems are revolutionizing surveillance—capable of monitoring hundreds of acres and detecting even small drones with precision.A major focus is the modern drone threat landscape, including real-world insights from conflicts like Ukraine, where rapidly evolving drone technology—such as fiber-optic guided drones—is changing warfare and security strategies. The conversation highlights the growing risks of drone-based attacks, airspace disruptions, and public safety concerns, especially for law enforcement, firefighting operations, and large public events.Listeners will also learn how AI-powered radar and video systems are transforming detection by reducing false alarms, identifying threats (from drones to weapons), and enabling faster, smarter responses. Logan shares how customer-driven innovation shapes product development at Spotter Global, along with practical insights into entrepreneurship—including his productivity framework: Record, Remind, Report.Whether you're in emergency services, defense, public safety, or technology, this episode offers a compelling look at the future of security systems, AI integration, and counter-drone solutions—and why staying ahead of these threats is more critical than ever.Logan's Linkedin:www.linkedin.com/in/lh1937Spotter Global Website:www.spotterglobal.comHAIX Boots:www.HIAXUSA.comRigaku Analytical Devices:www.RigakuAnalytical.com

Keith “Flip” Griffin, a retired U.S. Navy Command Master Chief with over 23 years in elite search and rescue (SAR) operations. During his military career, Flip led high-risk missions and logged more than 1,300 flight hours, operating across combat zones, ocean rescues, and medevac deployments.After retiring, Flip transitioned into leadership development, creating the Everyday Leader Framework—a practical system focused on accountability, communication, and trust. He now works closely with the fire and EMS community through his Firehouse Freedom program, helping leaders build stronger teams and more effective station culture.Website: www.firehousefreedom.comLinkedIn: Keith’s LinkedInHIAX Boots:www.hiaxusa.comRigaku Analytical:www.RigakuAnalytical.comJake sits down with Keith “Flip” Griffin to explore leadership, military experience, and the realities of high-risk emergency work.Flip shares the story behind his nickname—earned during an unforgettable early leadership moment—and uses it to highlight the role of mentorship, humility, and team integration. From there, the conversation traces his path from a suburban upbringing to becoming a Navy SAR corpsman and eventually a Command Master Chief. The discussion dives into the demands of search and rescue medicine, including operating as an independent provider in high-pressure environments where critical decisions must be made without backup. Flip reflects on the transition from training to real-world missions and the mindset required to perform when lives are on the line.A major focus of the episode is leadership. Flip breaks down the core principles that shaped his approach—honesty, consistency, and transparency—and explains how these traits build trust, accountability, and strong team culture.The conversation also explores the personal side of leadership, including how becoming a husband and father changed his perspective on risk, responsibility, and decision-making. Flip offers insight into balancing family life with demanding careers in the military and emergency services.This episode delivers practical takeaways for fire, EMS, and military professionals, including:​Leading effectively under pressure​Building trust within teams​Transitioning from operator to leader​Applying real-world experience to leadership growth

Jake chats with Sean Gray, a fire captain from Cobb County Fire and Emergency Services with over 30 years of experience. Sean shares his journey from a Southern California surfer to a leader in fire safety and research. With a degree in fire safety engineering and deep involvement in fire dynamics, he’s an expert on tactical operations and evidence-based fireground techniques.www.evolvingfire.com/www.instagram.com/ffseangray/HIAX Boots:www.hiaxusa.comRigaku Analytical Devices:www.rigakuanalytical.comTimestamped Chapters:(0:00 - 1:18) – Introduction to Sean GrayMeet Sean, an expert in fire dynamics and fire safety, with experience in research and tactical operations.(1:19 - 1:43) – Vegas ConferenceSean shares his time at the STRIVE IFF conference in Vegas and balancing work with personal life.(1:44 - 4:34) – Path to FirefightingSean talks about how surfing led him to firefighting, starting with EMT school and his first firehouse visit.(4:34 - 6:55) – Family SupportReflecting on the pride and support his family had when he chose firefighting, despite no family background in it.(6:56 - 9:53) – Realizing His CallingSean recalls his early days in EMS and firefighting, realizing it was the career he wanted after a few key experiences.(9:53 - 13:09) – A Life-Changing IncidentThe near-miss event that changed Sean’s approach to firefighting and led to a deep dive into fire dynamics and tactics.(13:09 - 14:45) – MentorshipSean talks about mentorship from figures like Bill Gustin, shaping his career and involvement in fire safety research.(14:45 - 17:12) – Onboarding at Cobb CountySean describes his onboarding at Cobb County, comparing it to the challenges of working in smaller departments.(17:12 - 18:08) – Fire AcademiesDiscussing the balance between military discipline and skill development in modern fire academies.(18:09 - 23:17) – Debating Firefighting CurriculumSean critiques outdated fire service textbooks and emphasizes the need for a more science-based curriculum.(23:17 - 25:43) – Science vs. ExperienceThe integration of science into firefighting and how it’s reshaping tactical decisions on the fireground.(25:43 - 28:58) – Cobb County’s Search CultureCobb County’s aggressive search culture and their record of civilian rescues.(28:59 - 30:22) – Aggressive FirefightingSean discusses the balance between aggression and competence, emphasizing preparation for safe, aggressive firefighting.(30:22 - 34:23) – Ventilation TacticsThe shift from traditional roof ventilation to more efficient methods like hydraulic ventilation.(34:24 - 36:00) – Roof Ventilation DebateWhy roof ventilation is increasingly seen as outdated, with more focus on alternative tactics.(36:00 - 40:02) – Hydraulic VentilationThe benefits of hydraulic ventilation and why it’s becoming the preferred method for improving fireground safety.(40:03 - 46:10) – Search and Firefighting AggressionHow preparation and confident crews contribute to successful firefighting operations in Cobb County.(46:11 - 50:23) – Promotions and LeadershipSean’s journey through the ranks of Cobb County, from firefighter to engineer and now captain.(50:24 - 53:01) – Transition to Battalion ChiefSean discusses the shift in responsibilities as he moved up the ranks, focusing on leadership and organizational skills.(53:02 - 56:18) – Building Effective TeamsThe importance of effective communication and team dynamics, both within and outside the firehouse.(56:19 - 59:12) – Search Culture EvolutionThe growth of Cobb’s search culture and how it shaped their rescue strategies.(59:13 - 1:04:58) – From FDIC to UL FSRISean’s journey from attending FDIC to contributing to UL FSRI’s exterior fire attack and attic fire studies.(1:04:59 - End) – Reflecting on Career SuccessSean’s thoughts on ongoing learning, the evolution of fire service tactics, and his career’s impact on others.

In this episode of the Hazard Class Podcast, we sit down with Dr. Johnny Torgeson—chief officer, leadership consultant, and author—to unpack his unconventional journey into the fire service and the leadership philosophy he’s built through real-world experience. From a last-minute decision in high school to becoming a U.S. Army firefighter, Dr. Torgeson shares how effort—not talent or grades—became the defining factor in his success.The conversation dives into the realities of leadership in emergency services, including how to motivate individuals with different drives, how to lead people through difficult life “seasons,” and why the idea of a constantly “high-performing team” is flawed. Instead, he introduces the concept of building optimized teams—meeting people where they are while still maintaining standards.Through powerful stories from boot camp, the firehouse, and his leadership career, Dr. Torgeson emphasizes self-belief, accountability, and understanding human behavior as the foundation of effective leadership. This episode is packed with actionable insights for anyone looking to lead better, build stronger teams, and unlock their full potential. Dr. Torgeson's Website:www.forgingteams.comHAIX Boots:www.haixusa.comRigaku Analytical Devices:www.rigakuanalytical.com00:00 – Intro & Guest BackgroundMeet Dr. Johnny Torgeson and his career across military and fire service leadership.04:30 – Origin Story & Career BeginningsA spontaneous decision leads to joining the Army as a firefighter.11:00 – Military vs Civilian Fire ServiceKey differences, experiences, and lessons from multiple systems.17:30 – 9/11 ExperienceBeing on standby during 9/11 and the emotional impact on crews.25:00 – Boot Camp & Effort MindsetHow basic training reshaped his belief in effort over ability.33:30 – Motivation & Proving People WrongThe role of doubt, self-belief, and internal drive.45:00 – Leadership & Motivation TheoryWhy discipline alone isn’t enough—and how leaders must adapt.55:30 – Understanding Your PeopleLearning what drives individuals and tailoring leadership approaches.1:05:00 – Life Seasons & Team PerformanceWhy teams fluctuate and how to lead through personal struggles.1:13:00 – Accountability with EmpathyBalancing standards with compassion in leadership.1:18:30 – Leading Former PeersNavigating difficult dynamics, influence, and respect.1:21:00 – Closing Thoughts & ResourcesWhere to connect with Dr. Torgeson and learn more.

In this episode of the Hazard Class Podcast, Jake talks to Sidd Thakur, founder and CEO of Paradigm Robotics, about his journey from childhood tinkering with Legos to creating robots that aid first responders in hazardous situations. Paradigm Robotics' innovative robots, like their heat-resistant models, help reduce risk and save lives in emergencies. Sidd shares the challenges of building these robots and discusses the future of robotics in emergency services.HAIX Boots: www.haixusa.com/Rigaku Analytical Devices: www.rigakuanalytical.com0:00 - 1:03 | Introduction to Sidd ThakurSidd Thakur, robotics innovator and founder of Paradigm Robotics, shares his background in engineering and robotics from a young age.1:04 - 2:50 | Sidd’s Robotics JourneySidd discusses his early interest in robotics, from Legos to building systems for his mom’s garden and entering competitive robotics.2:51 - 4:20 | Inspirations and InfluencesSidd reflects on the character Wall-E, which inspired his passion for robotics and engineering.4:21 - 7:10 | Hardware vs. SoftwareJake and Sidd talk about the balance between hardware and software in robotics and how both are needed for success.7:11 - 11:07 | From Toys to Real-World RoboticsSidd explains how he moved from toys like K’nex to building real robots and how online resources and cheap components made robotics accessible.11:08 - 14:15 | Family InfluenceSidd shares how his parents, both engineers and entrepreneurs, created an environment of creativity and support that influenced his career.14:16 - 21:01 | Why Emergency Services?Sidd talks about how his early work on wildfire detection led him to focus on creating robotics for structural fire and rescue operations.21:02 - 24:23 | Pain Points in the Fire ServiceSidd discusses the key challenges in the fire service, such as firefighter safety, staffing shortages, and emerging threats like lithium-ion fires.24:24 - 30:28 | Limitations of RoboticsSidd explains where robots can’t replace humans, such as in fast response situations, but can assist in high-risk environments like large-scale warehouse fires.30:29 - 38:17 | Firebot’s CapabilitiesSidd introduces Firebot, a versatile robot designed for hazardous environments, capable of high-temperature operations and equipped with sensors for a wide range of tasks.38:18 - 40:13 | Explosion-Proof DesignJake asks how Firebot is explosion-proof, and Sidd explains the engineering behind making robots safe for explosive atmospheres.40:14 - 47:35 | Modular PlatformsSidd discusses how Paradigm Robotics’ modular design allows fire departments to customize Firebot with different sensors and features based on their needs.47:36 - 50:37 | Training and UsabilitySidd shares how easy it is for first responders to operate Firebot, with training times as short as 15 seconds, and how the user interface is designed for quick deployment.50:38 - 54:01 | User Interface and Control SystemsSidd explains that Firebot uses a familiar, simple control system like a video game controller to ensure ease of use for anyone on the team.54:02 - 59:03 | Connectivity in Challenging EnvironmentsSidd discusses how Paradigm Robotics ensures reliable communication in difficult environments like concrete buildings, using advanced radio systems and antennas.59:04 - 1:03:35 | The Future of RoboticsSidd looks ahead, predicting greater adoption of robotics in emergency services, with AI integration, and the ability to tackle emerging problems like staffing shortages.1:03:36 - 1:05:55 | AI and the SingularityJake asks about the possibility of AI causing problems like in science fiction. Sidd reassures listeners that safety is the top priority in robotics development.1:05:56 - 1:06:47 | Closing ThoughtsSidd concludes the conversation, excited for the future of robotics in emergency services and the impact it will have on firefighter safety.

Michael W. Brown joins the Hazard Class Podcast to trace his path from retail security in Cincinnati to a 32-year DEA career spanning Detroit, Bolivia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, India, Tajikistan, and Myanmar. He explains how overseas counter-narcotics work evolved from raiding labs and airstrips to targeting the chemical supply chains that keep global drug production running. The second half shifts to the modern drug landscape, where Brown breaks down fentanyl, cartel business models, border smuggling, and why precursor interdiction and field technology are central to the fight today.LinkedIn: Rigaku — linkedin.com/company/rigakucorp X: @rigaku — x.com/rigaku YouTube: @RigakuCorporation — youtube.com/@RigakuCorporation Instagram: @rigaku_corporation — instagram.com/rigaku_corporation Facebook: RigakuCorp — facebook.com/RigakuCorp 00:00 — Intro and Michael Brown’s backgroundBrown is introduced along with his DEA career and current role at Rigaku.01:18 — What inspired him to join DEAA 60 Minutes segment on DEA operations in South America pushes him away from law school and toward federal service.03:35 — The recruiter, the suit, and getting acceptedBrown tells the story of first showing up underdressed, getting sent back, and quickly landing a training slot.08:49 — First assignment: DetroitHe begins his career in Detroit and describes the pace and intensity of narcotics work there.13:31 — Undercover buys and street-level enforcementThe conversation moves into informants, cover stories, and what an actual buy-bust looked like.26:29 — Bolivia and Operation SnowcapBrown describes deploying to Bolivia, working with UMAPAR, and targeting cocaine labs, airstrips, and precursor hubs.35:50 — Why the drug war never stayed containedHe reflects on early overseas operations, cartel adaptation, and the political limits of long-term success.44:08 — Pakistan, 9/11, Afghanistan, and IndiaThe discussion shifts to his overseas career arc and how counter-drug work intersected with broader geopolitical events.49:58 — Myanmar and the pivot to chemical interdictionBrown explains how meth production in Myanmar pushed him toward technology-based counter-narcotics work.55:44 — Precursors as the center of gravityHe argues that precursor chemicals are the real lifeblood of fentanyl, heroin, cocaine, and meth production.58:03 — How fentanyl spreadBrown gives his view of the fentanyl timeline, from opioids and heroin to cartel-driven synthetic drug production.65:02 — Cartels as Fortune 500-style enterprisesHe explains why modern cartels operate more like multinational corporations than street gangs.74:51 — How drugs actually cross the borderBrown breaks down smuggling through points of entry, vehicle concealment, parcels, and volume overwhelm.85:03 — Retirement and work at RigakuHe closes by explaining how his current role helps agencies use technology to identify drugs and precursors more safely.

Deputy Assistant Chief (Ret.) Frank Leeb, a veteran of over 31 years with the FDNY. From his humble beginnings in East Farmingdale Volunteer Fire Department to retiring from the FDNY, Frank shares a wealth of knowledge and personal stories. He discusses his early days in volunteer firefighting, his journey through FDNY, and the lessons he's learned along the way. Frank’s passion for the fire service is evident as he talks about mentorship, training, leadership, and his work with the First Responder Center for Excellence, a program dedicated to addressing the mental and physical challenges faced by first responders.Timestamps:0:00 - Introduction to Chief Frank Leeb:Meet Chief Frank Leeb, a veteran firefighter with over 31 years of service. He shares his career journey and current work with the First Responder Center for Excellence.2:00 - Early Beginnings in East Farmingdale Fire Department:Frank reflects on his childhood and how his brother’s involvement in the East Farmingdale Fire Department inspired him to join, highlighting the diverse group of people who mentored him in his early volunteer years.4:00 - The Influence of His Brother and Volunteer Fire Service Mentors:Frank discusses how volunteer mentors shaped his understanding of leadership and service, emphasizing the importance of learning from everyone around you.7:00 - The FDNY Connection and the Path to Joining the Department:Frank talks about his decision to pursue a career in the FDNY, passing the entrance exam at 17, and the early connections he made with city firefighters.10:00 - Lessons from the First Real Fire:Frank recalls his first significant fire in New York City and the lessons learned about preparation, teamwork, and using all firefighting equipment.19:00 - The Value of Training and Lifelong Learning in the Fire Service:Frank highlights the importance of continuous education in the fire service and how a lifelong commitment to learning shaped his leadership style.26:00 - The Evolution of Fire Academy Training and Changes in Expectations:A look back at fire academy training in Frank’s early days and how it has evolved, particularly with EMS integration and the ongoing challenge of meeting modern demands.30:00 - The Importance of Fire Academies Being Both Difficult and Realistic:Frank discusses the debate about fire academy standards and the need for a balance between difficulty and realistic expectations for the job.41:00 - Transition from Engine Work to Special Operations (Squad 270):Frank shares his experiences transitioning to Squad 270, one of the FDNY's special operations units, and how the specialized training prepared him for complex fire scenes.50:00 - The Impact of 9/11 on the FDNY and the Fire Service Community:Frank gives an emotional account of the events of September 11, 2001, discussing the loss of colleagues and the strength of the FDNY’s response in the aftermath.1:10:00 - The Importance of Resilience and Leadership After Tragedy:Frank talks about the FDNY's resilience after 9/11, sharing lessons in leadership and pride from the department's response to the tragedy.1:15:00 - Frank’s Work with the First Responder Center for Excellence:Frank discusses his current role at the First Responder Center for Excellence, focusing on the organization's efforts to address mental health, cancer awareness, and other challenges faced by first responders.Important Resources:First Responder Center for ExcellenceFrank’s books: Cornerstones of Leadership, On and Off the Fireground, 30 Fires You Must Know.

Jared Vermeulen, a South Florida fire captain with nearly 20 years in the fire service and author of The Modern Fire Officer.Jared shares his unconventional journey into firefighting, his early involvement in special operations, and the lessons that shaped his leadership philosophy. The conversation explores firehouse culture, mentorship, career development, and the evolving responsibilities of today’s fire officers.https://modernfireofficer.com/https://www.amazon.com/Modern-Fire-Officer-Building-Endures-ebook/dp/B0GQDNXM6T?ref_=saga_ast_ss_dsk_dp0:00 – IntroductionThe host introduces the Hazard Class Podcast and welcomes fire captain and author Jared Vermeulen. 2:18 – Jared’s Origin StoryJared explains how he originally planned to pursue industrial design before firefighter friends encouraged him to try the fire service.3:25 – Special Operations Career PathEarly in his career, Jared pursued specialized rescue disciplines including rope rescue, trench rescue, confined space, hazmat, and vehicle machinery rescue.4:59 – EMS and Fire Service OperationsDiscussion of how South Florida fire departments operate integrated EMS systems where firefighters frequently function as paramedics and handle a high volume of medical calls.7:13 – Becoming a Paramedic FirstJared attended paramedic school before fire academy due to hiring delays, which ultimately helped him secure a position with his department.9:39 – Training and ProbationNew hires undergo an intensive onboarding program and rigorous medical protocol training before operating independently. 14:49 – Traveling Before the Fire ServiceBefore becoming a firefighter, Jared spent significant time traveling throughout Central and South America, gaining life experience that shaped his worldview.16:16 – Perspective from EcuadorA powerful story about working with shrimp fishermen in Ecuador highlights how travel helped him gain appreciation for life and opportunity in the United States.21:07 – The Firefighter MindsetJared discusses how many firefighters are driven by a desire for challenge, adventure, and testing themselves under pressure.24:00 – Early Years in the FirehouseStarting as the youngest member on his crews, Jared learned from firefighters with decades of experience.26:27 – Learning Through ObservationHe emphasizes that much of the best learning occurs during everyday calls through observation, discussion, and informal training moments.32:24 – Promotions and LeadershipJared reflects on moving quickly through the ranks and navigating the challenges of leading firefighters who once trained him.40:06 – Why Become a Fire OfficerHe explains that becoming a captain was about shaping culture and building a firehouse environment where firefighters can succeed.42:08 – The Invisible Work of LeadershipMuch of leadership involves unseen responsibilities—mentoring, managing relationships, and supporting firefighters through difficult calls.45:41 – Developing Future OfficersFirefighters who aspire to lead must begin building technical competence, leadership ability, and strong relationships early in their careers.49:57 – The Modern Fire OfficerJared explains the concept behind his book and how the fire service has evolved due to expanded responsibilities, public scrutiny, and increasing expectations. 53:13 – Wearing Multiple Leadership HatsModern fire officers must act as incident commanders, mentors, coaches, and peer supporters depending on the situation.55:22 – Mentorship in the Fire ServiceA lack of mentorship is one of the biggest leadership gaps in many departments. Intentional mentoring programs are essential for developing future leaders.58:25 – Morale and Firehouse CultureStation-level officers play a critical role in shaping morale, while administrators must provide support and empowerment for those leaders.

Jake sits down with T. John Cunningham, Assistant Commissioner at the Minnesota Department of Public Safety. With a background in fire service leadership and emergency management, Cunningham shares his unique journey from a young fire explorer in Greenwich, Connecticut, to overseeing statewide emergency response systems in [email protected]/https://www.linkedin.com/in/tjohncunningham/Chapters:00:00 - IntroductionHost Jake introduces T. John Cunningham, former fire chief, emergency manager, and current Assistant Commissioner at the Minnesota Department of Public Safety.03:00 - Early Beginnings in Public SafetyT. John reflects on how his public safety journey began at the age of 13 in Greenwich, Connecticut, as a Fire Explorer, sparking his passion for firefighting and technical rescue.07:00 - Moving to MinnesotaCunningham discusses his move to Minnesota to become fire chief and emergency management director in Elk River, including the personal challenges of relocating across the country.10:00 - Leading Elk River Fire DepartmentCunningham talks about his time as Fire Chief in Elk River, transforming the department and overcoming challenges as a younger fire service leader.14:00 - Transitioning to Brooklyn ParkCunningham shares the challenges of leading the Brooklyn Park Fire Department, transitioning from a volunteer workforce to a full-time career service.18:00 - Building the Brooklyn Park Fire AcademyThe creation of a fire academy in Brooklyn Park to improve training standards and recruit from within the community. Cunningham discusses how they structured the academy for success.22:00 - The Art of Leading a Career DepartmentCunningham talks about leading a career department, emphasizing the importance of setting clear expectations, building trust, and leading with empathy.25:00 - Recruitment & Retention in the Fire ServiceCunningham discusses the ongoing challenges of recruitment and retention in the fire service, stressing the need to market the profession and inspire new generations of firefighters.29:00 - Addressing Mental Health & WellnessCunningham reflects on the challenges firefighters face, such as PTSD and cancer, and discusses efforts in Minnesota to prioritize health and wellness for public safety workers.32:00 - Moving to the State Department of Public SafetyCunningham talks about his transition to the state level, where he now oversees the fire marshal division, emergency management, and 911 systems for Minnesota.37:00 - The Future of 911 and Public Safety SystemsCunningham discusses Minnesota’s efforts to modernize its 911 system, the role of technology, and the potential for AI in improving emergency services.42:00 - Navigating State Leadership and PolicyCunningham reflects on using his fire service leadership experience to bridge the gap between public safety agencies, the legislature, and local communities.46:00 - Reimagining Emergency Services with DataCunningham talks about how data is increasingly shaping decisions in public safety, while also balancing the unpredictable nature of emergency services.52:00 - Strategic Planning for Public SafetyCunningham explains how he works with his team to plan for the future of public safety, focusing on the needs of Minnesotans across fire services and EMS.56:00 - The Importance of Community InvolvementCunningham stresses the importance of community involvement in shaping public safety, highlighting how strong relationships can improve emergency services outcomes.1:00:00 - The Next Generation of Fire Service LeadersCunningham discusses the future of the fire service in Minnesota, citing the rise of new leaders bringing fresh perspectives to the profession.1:04:00 - Closing ThoughtsCunningham shares his passion for public safety and encourages listeners to get involved, be proactive, and continue supporting the next generation of first responders.

Jeremy Redman, a former FBI Special Agent and SWAT sniper with over two decades in the Bureau and prior experience with the U.S. Air Force and the Air Force Office of Special Investigations (OSI). Jeremy walks through the winding path from a childhood dream of being a fighter pilot to a career built around investigations, tactical operations, and leadership—plus what Hollywood gets wrong, why preparation is everything, and how faith and family helped him carry the weight of the job.Book Available Here:https://www.amazon.com/Send-Me-Chronicles-FBI-Sniper/dp/B0FB95BSW4?ref_=ast_author_dpChapter Breakdown & Timestamps0:00 – 9:21 — Intro + Jeremy’s origin story (fighter pilotdream → OSI) Jeremy explains the early obsession with aviation, the doorsthat shut, and how OSI became the first real “this is it” moment ininvestigations. 9:21 – 19:41 — Overseas interviewing + why “torture” failsat truth Jeremy describes field interviewing detainees,rapport-building, and why coercion creates bad intelligence when you actuallyneed actionable truth. ~19:41 – 24:28 — Quantico mindset: open cases, protectvictims, don’t assume guilt A major lesson: follow the evidence, stay constitutional,and avoid “I just want to catch a bad guy” thinking. 24:29 – 29:06 — How field offices choose priorities + “youcan’t go home” rule Jeremy explains national priorities vs local realities (likeOklahoma’s context) and why the Bureau historically avoids sending agents totheir home regions. 29:06 – 39:35 — Joining FBI SWAT: selection, training, andstaying a “street agent” Jeremy breaks down the path: agent → operator → sniper, pluswhy SWAT operators are still expected to be strong investigators first. 39:36 – 46:40 — Logistics, big ops, and what TV getshilariously wrong From convoys and armored vehicles to the “badge flip”myth—Jeremy explains why Hollywood’s version of federal ops is entertaining…and wildly off. 46:40 – 55:00 — Working with local law enforcement + the“prep wins” philosophy He talks cooperation vs friction, what federal databaseschange, and why every op gets serious planning—because the “easy mission”mindset is how teams lose people. 55:01 – 1:04:31 — Mistakes, AAR culture, sniper pipeline,and gear choices Jeremy shares early “quiet mistakes,” the importance ofhonest debriefs (“hot wash”), and how sniper certification is really just “alicense to learn.” He also discusses why .308 / 7.62 NATO remains a workhorseround for police/sniper work. 1:04:31 – 1:12:45 — Lethal force policy + faith, humanity,and carrying the darkness Jeremy lays out the FBI lethal-force standard (necessity +probable cause + imminent threat), and how faith shapes his view of bothvictims and offenders. 1:14:29 – 1:26:17 — Coming home, retirement, and why hewrote the book A powerful closing stretch: how to “reset in the driveway,”why leaving the team can be emotionally crushing, and how journaling turned into "Send Me".

Jake talks with filmmaker/advocate Eli Yetter-Bowman about how learning his hometown Wilmington, NC had been drinking PFAS-contaminated water (publicly revealed in 2017) pushed him into documentary work—and into confronting PFAS (“forever chemicals”) exposure in the fire service. They cover why storytelling can turn complex science into action, the realities of funding independent documentaries, how Burned became a major impact campaign, and why Eli’s feature ** GenX ** will be released primarily through in-person screenings to drive change. 0:00 – 5:31 — Intro + Eli’s path into advocacy filmmaking; GenX as the origin story behind Burned. 5:32 – 12:36 — Wilmington’s PFAS water crisis + why “invisible” contamination is hard to grasp without story. 12:37 – 16:41 — Personal driver: Eli’s mom’s autoimmune neurological illness + the “root cause” view of public health. 16:43 – 28:13 — Funding the work: why crowdfunding/investors weren’t the answer; the grind of donor fundraising. 28:14 – 32:57 — Why GenX took 8 years; how turnout-gear PFAS urgency paused the feature and sped up Burned. 32:58 – 41:30 — Turning film into a movement: Burned campaign impact (1500+ in-person events) + lessons in change-making. 41:30 – 45:47 — What departments can do now: proactive screenings, gear replacement organizing, and how to follow GenX. Resources:genxthefilm.org — newsletter, screening requests, tour updates ⁠https://etherealfilms.org/ — team + project info Their Substack/newsletter (via the sites)

Chad Costa, Assistant Fire Chief at Petaluma Fire Department, has over 25 years of experience in municipal, rural, and wildland fire operations. In this episode of Hazard Class Podcast, he shares his journey from growing up in rural Sonoma County to becoming a seasoned leader in the fire service. Chief Costa discusses early career challenges, recruitment and retention issues, and the balance between structural and wildland firefighting. With insights on leadership, community involvement, and the evolving fire service, he offers advice for aspiring firefighters and emphasizes the importance of building a strong, well-rounded department.www.chadcosta.org[0:00 - 2:00] – IntroductionIntroduction to Chief Chad Costa and his role. Overview of his career and background.[2:01 - 7:26] – Why the Fire Service?Chief Costa talks about his rural upbringing and how a friend’s encouragement led him to pursue firefighting, despite having no prior connection to the field.[7:26 - 8:55] – Early Career ChallengesHis first volunteer experience and the challenges he faced in gaining acceptance and building his skills.[8:56 - 9:56] – Lessons from Early DaysThe importance of hard work, reliability, and building relationships in the fire service.[9:57 - 12:22] – Instilling Values in New FirefightersChief Costa discusses how he imparts core values like dedication and reliability to new recruits and the challenges of hiring firefighter-paramedics.[12:23 - 15:30] – Recruitment ChallengesThe evolving challenges in attracting and retaining qualified firefighter-paramedics in today’s job market.[15:30 - 16:16] – The Changing LandscapeHow the fire service has evolved, with new generations of recruits leaning more towards tech roles than traditional blue-collar jobs.[16:16 - 20:27] – Becoming a FirefighterThe path to becoming a firefighter, emphasizing education, certification, and gaining experience. Chief Costa stresses the importance of mentorship and decision-making.[20:27 - 24:16] – Balancing Wildland & Structural FirefightingThe difficulty in excelling at both wildland and structural firefighting and how departments balance these two critical disciplines.[24:17 - 31:39] – Transition from Volunteer to Career FirefighterChief Costa reflects on his transition from volunteer to career firefighter and the steps required to build a successful career.[31:40 - 38:37] – Promotion and Career GrowthHow Chief Costa knew it was time for promotion and the role of the organization in making these decisions.[38:39 - 41:35] – Leadership and FeedbackThe challenges of staying connected with frontline firefighters and how Chief Costa seeks feedback to refine his leadership.[41:36 - 42:36] – Handling CriticismHow Chief Costa processes both positive and negative feedback and adjusts his leadership style accordingly.[42:36 - 46:03] – Department MoraleChief Costa discusses how morale is managed at various levels of the department and strategies for fixing morale issues within a fire service organization.[46:04 - 49:00] – Balancing Service and BudgetThe challenge of maintaining high-quality service while managing a department’s budget, especially with dual-role firefighter paramedics.[49:00 - 57:11] – Dual Role vs. Single Role EMSA discussion on the pros and cons of dual-role firefighter paramedics and the push towards single-role EMS services as a solution to firefighter burnout.[57:12 - 1:00:21] – Career Reflections and LegacyChief Costa reflects on his proudest achievements, including creating a career camp for high school students interested in the fire service.[1:00:21 - End] – Closing ThoughtsChief Costa shares his future plans and final advice for those entering the fire service.

Dr. Michael Guirguis, an emergency medicine physician whose career has defied every conventional path. From hoisting patients off cliffs with the San Bernardino Sheriff’s Air Rescue, to advising executive protection teams and serving as Chipotle’s medical director, Dr. Guirguis has lived multiple lives in one. This conversation explores the gritty truths of ER medicine, the high stakes of protective health care in elite circles, and the challenges of raising kids with a trauma-informed lens.0:00 — Introduction & Guest BackgroundJake introduces Dr. Guirguis and his remarkable multidisciplinary resume.0:07 — Childhood Dreams to Medical RealityDr. Guirguis recounts his early passion for law enforcement and how a sports injury rerouted him into medicine.0:19 — From UCLA to Harvard: Medical School InsightsHe discusses the intense journey from back surgery to earning a spot at Harvard Med and how pass/no-pass grading shaped collaboration.0:28 — Emergency Medicine & Burnout RealitiesWhy he chose emergency medicine and how ER shows influenced that choice, plus the emotional toll of the modern ER system.0:42 — Systemic Failures in U.S. Health CareA candid critique of ER overuse, homelessness, and lack of primary care access.0:51 — Law, Violence & Accountability in ERsDr. Guirguis on legal handcuffs, hospital violence, and where administrators get it wrong.0:56 — Training with the Sheriff’s DepartmentDetails of how he combined ER residency with tactical air rescue and law enforcement work.1:04 — Building Raven Medical & Executive Protection WorkBehind the scenes of high-profile security medicine, global protocols, and unique travel logistics.1:14 — Inside Corporate Medicine: Chipotle & XPJHow medical infrastructure is built for corporations, and why brands like Chipotle are ahead of the curve.1:21 — Parenthood, Risk Awareness & Mental LoadHow emergency medicine shaped his parenting, emotional resilience, and risk perception.1:31 — Career Evolution & What’s NextWhat drives Dr. Guirguis today: industry education, client care, and raising kids with purpose.Key Moments“You’re only as good a doctor as what you take out of it.”“Burnout is real, but I chose to do this on my own terms now.”“Executive protection isn’t just brawn—it’s brains, logistics, and medicine.”“The bane of my existence is calling someone a ‘medic’ after a weekend course.”“If something bad happens, you don't want to be the guy who didn’t prepare.”Resources & MentionsXPJ — High-risk medics for executive protectionRaven Medical Support Group — Dr. Guirguis' organization“Untold Stories of the ER” — TLC TV show featuring Dr. GuirguisEMTALA Laws (Emergency Medical Treatment & Labor Act)TCCC / TECC training distinctions in security medicine

Jake sits down with one of the most revered names in the American fire service—Captain Mike Dugan. With over 40 years of firefighting experience, including a distinguished career with the FDNY and multiple valor awards, Captain Dugan shares a raw, heartfelt, and unfiltered look into the culture, brotherhood, and challenges of the fire service. From childhood inspiration to rooftop rescues, and from leadership lessons to life after 9/11, this conversation is a masterclass in service, humility, and integrity.00:00 – IntroductionJake introduces Captain Mike Dugan and highlights his 40+ year legacy in the fire service, including his FDNY tenure and national teaching contributions.03:10 – Childhood Inspiration: The Fire That Started It AllMike recounts the fire at his grandmother’s house that sparked his lifelong passion for firefighting.08:50 – Growing Up DuganA glimpse into Mike’s upbringing in a big, loving Irish-Catholic family and the community values that shaped him.15:00 – Entering the Fire Service & Early Days VolunteeringHis transition from volunteer firefighter to NYPD officer, and ultimately joining FDNY.23:00 – Academy Stories & First AssignmentsA dive into his "sleep officer" training, first slow company assignment, and the career-defining transfer to Spanish Harlem.34:10 – Firehouse Culture & Leadership LessonsThe importance of pride, ownership, and tradition in building elite fire companies.43:30 – The Famous Roof Rope RescueA gripping retelling of the 1991 rooftop rescue that earned Mike high departmental honors and media attention.57:00 – The Reality of RecognitionNavigating media attention, departmental politics (including the infamous “mustache incident”), and public recognition.1:04:20 – From Firefighter to OfficerHis decision to promote, lessons learned as a lieutenant and captain, and how to prepare others to lead.1:15:00 – Morale, Accountability & CultureWhy company culture is built from within, and how great companies self-regulate and support each other.1:25:00 – The Anatomy of a Great FirefighterHeart, humility, and relentless curiosity—Mike defines what makes someone exceptional in this calling.1:35:00 – Training for the UnthinkableWhy training for the 90% and the 1% are both vital—and how to make the most of your district time.1:47:00 – 9/11 ReflectionsAn emotional segment on being at the FDNY training academy on 9/11 and losing close friends from the firehouse the day before.1:55:00 – Legacy and Final ThoughtsMike shares how the fire service continues to evolve and his hopes for future generations of firefighters.Captain Mike Dugan is a retired FDNY firefighter and former captain of Ladder 123. He has received numerous awards for bravery and served as a national instructor and keynote speaker. Known for his integrity, mentorship, and practical leadership, he continues to shape the fire service through writing, teaching, and speaking.Fire Engineering ProfileNotable Speech: FDIC 2011 Keynote: Why Are You Here?Like what you heard? Subscribe to Hazard Class on your favorite podcast platform.Share this episode with a fellow firefighter or leader who needs to hear it.Follow us on Instagram, Spotify, YouTube or Facebook for updates and behind-the-scenes content.

Battalion Chief Marc Aloan of the West Columbia Fire Department discusses his two-decade career in the fire service. From chasing fire trucks as a child to becoming a battalion chief, Marc reflects on his experiences, including the challenges, leadership lessons, and learning from mistakes along the way. He also shares insights into the role of education in his career, the value of hands-on firefighting, and how he navigates the complexities of leadership in the fire service.0:00 - 1:49: Introduction to Battalion Chief Marc AloanTopic: Marc’s Early Fire Service ConnectionMarc Aloan, Battalion Chief at West Columbia Fire Department, is introduced. He shares how he was drawn to the fire service at a young age, starting with his fascination with fire trucks and following them on his bike.1:49 - 5:38: Marc’s Early Fire Service JourneyTopic: Starting in the Fire Service and VolunteeringMarc discusses his early days in the fire service, including his experiences as a junior firefighter and his time training to be a paramedic, before eventually joining the Air Force.5:38 - 10:56: First Fire ExperienceTopic: Marc’s First Fire and the Impact of CompassionMarc recounts his first fire response during a mutual aid call. He shares the emotional experience of dealing with a family’s loss and the importance of compassion alongside the thrill of firefighting.10:56 - 13:56: Transitioning to Battalion Chief and Leadership PhilosophyTopic: Leadership and Empowering the TeamMarc reflects on his leadership journey as a Battalion Chief, discussing how he empowers his team while balancing the role of a leader and a firefighter. He highlights the importance of allowing individuals to develop their own styles while maintaining department standards.13:56 - 18:30: Learning from Mistakes and Constructive CriticismTopic: The Importance of Post-Incident ReviewsThe discussion shifts to Marc’s approach to post-incident debriefs. He explains how focusing on mistakes and failures helps the team improve and evolve. He emphasizes the need for candid reflection and learning from each experience.18:30 - 23:45: Grinders vs. Naturally Gifted FirefightersTopic: Hard Work vs. Natural Talent in the Fire ServiceMarc talks about the difference between grinders, who work tirelessly to improve their skills, and naturally gifted firefighters. He explains why he aligns more with grinders and how their consistent effort leads to success over time.23:45 - 29:41: Balancing Leadership with Hands-On FirefightingTopic: Staying Involved as a Battalion ChiefMarc shares how his role as a Battalion Chief requires balancing leadership responsibilities with staying active in the field. He emphasizes the importance of being present for his team while supporting them with resources and leadership when necessary.29:41 - 35:07: Conducting Effective CritiquesTopic: Accountability and Constructive FeedbackMarc discusses how he approaches critiques and feedback in the fire service. He stresses the importance of leading by example, being self-reflective, and creating an environment where team members feel comfortable sharing their experiences and learning from mistakes.35:07 - 39:49: The Role of Education in Marc’s CareerTopic: The Value of Formal Education for FirefightersMarc shares his experience with formal education, including his bachelor’s and master’s degrees. He highlights the value of education for career development, leadership skills, and personal growth within the fire service.39:49 - 45:36: Reflecting on Early Career and MistakesTopic: Growth Through Challenges and Learning from MistakesMarc reflects on his earlier years as a firefighter and the lessons learned through mistakes. He shares how these experiences shaped his approach to firefighting and leadership, emphasizing the importance of continuous self-improvement.Contact Information:Blog: The Fire InsideFacebook: The Fire Inside Facebook PageInstagram: @TheFireInside

Jake dives deep into the multifaceted career of Gary Oldham, a veteran in public safety with experience as a police officer, dispatcher, and global strategist at Apple. Gary shares the evolution of his career—from the front lines of law enforcement to managing major technological transitions in emergency services, and now running his own consulting firm, Accelerant 4. This episode is rich with leadership insights, practical innovation in emergency response, and a strong advocacy for tech that genuinely serves first responders.Introduction and Gary's Background (00:00 – 06:00)Early start in public safetyPolice Explorer to full-time officer at 18Initial career motivationsTransition from Police Work to Dispatch (06:00 – 15:00)Burnout and cynicism in law enforcementFinding new purpose in dispatchDifferences between fire and police public perceptionChallenges in Emergency Dispatch Systems (15:00 – 27:00)Evolution from manual dispatch to Pro-QAMisuse of 911 and liability concernsComplexity of triage and human judgmentPublic Sector to Private Sector Shift (27:00 – 36:00)Transitioning to project management rolesWorking with San Diego and navigating bureaucracyManaging layoffs and organizational changesTech Leadership and Working with Vendors (36:00 – 45:00)Leading expert teams as a non-expertAvoiding micromanagementManaging expectations in large-scale projectsJoining Apple and Building Public Safety Programs (45:00 – 1:00:00)Overcoming skepticism and 0% market shareBuilding global police summitsInfluencing product features like CarPlay integrationCreating Impact and Culture at Apple (1:00:00 – 1:12:00)Apple’s unique culture and hiring practicesCommitment to privacy and ethical leadershipWorking with first responders worldwideLaunch of Accelerant 4 and Consulting Focus (1:12:00 – 1:20:00)Why Gary left AppleHelping companies better engage with public safetyTailoring technology to solve real-world problemsLeadership Insights and Future of Public Safety Tech (1:20:00 – 1:30:00)Balancing team dynamics and technical talentEvolving responder technologyBuilding realistic, scalable solutionsGary Oldham is a seasoned public safety expert with over three decades of experience. His career spans police work, dispatch leadership, and tech innovation. At Apple, he led global public safety strategy, taking their market share from 0% to 70%. Now, he runs Accelerant 4, a consultancy helping companies and agencies implement effective, meaningful technology solutions in emergency services.Website: accelerant4.com

Chief Rob Ramirez returns to the show to talk about one of the most unique opportunities in modern firefighting: helping build a brand-new fire department from the ground up. He shares stories of leadership, culture, training, and staying sharp after leaving the fire truck.Segment Breakdown & Timestamps[0:00 – 0:07] Intro & Career LeapRob returns to the podcast, recounting his jump from 20+ years in operations to a command role in a new department.[0:07 – 0:14] Why Start Now? The Motivation Behind the MoveRob explains the rare opportunity to help shape something from scratch and how it aligned with his career goals.[0:14 – 0:21] Starting from Zero: Gear, Trucks, and PoliciesDetails about acquiring vehicles, setting SOPs, navigating town bureaucracy, and learning fast.[0:21 – 0:28] Building the Team: Hiring & Leadership PhilosophyRob outlines their recruitment strategy, training plans, and what type of people they’re looking for.[0:28 – 0:35] Laying the Training FoundationWhy training won’t be optional. Rob discusses shift-based training, officer development, and ongoing standards.[0:35 – 0:42] The Isolation of LeadershipWhat it feels like to be out of the action, staying connected to fireground competency, and the temptation to slip into admin-only thinking.[0:42 – 0:49] How Culture is Built: People, Trust, and AccountabilityThe role of informal leaders, gatekeepers of culture, and using character-first hiring to prevent future problems.[0:49 – 0:56] Handling Mistakes & Measuring GrowthAfter-action reviews, creating safe learning environments, and how Rob approaches performance evaluation.[0:56 – 1:03] Search Urgency, Real-World Fire Talk & Caring About the JobRob and the host dissect a recent fireground situation involving victim removal, and what it reveals about urgency and culture.[1:03 – 1:11] Mentorship, Mastery, and Long-Term VisionMentorship models, when to promote, and how the right people and structure create long-term excellence.Key Moments“You can’t read your own label from inside the jar.”Rob’s final fire call as a captain, ending with gratitude and fireground clarity.The skunk-in-the-parking-lot moment—and what it teaches about perspective.“Our people are our greatest ambassadors.”Resources & Mentions:https://www.instagram.com/robramirez1075_official/?hl=enhttps://www.jupiter.fl.us/firerescueGuest Info: Chief Rob RamirezDivision Chief of Training, Jupiter Fire RescueFounder of Mayday MindsetNational fire instructor and speaker

Dr. David Griffin shares his transformation from minor league baseball player to fire service leader, shaped by one of the most devastating tragedies in firefighting history—the 2007 Sofa Superstore Fire in Charleston, SC. Griffin recounts the incident in vivid detail, reflecting on how it reshaped his view of leadership, mental health, and responsibility. Nearly two decades later, he continues to advocate for cultural change, peer support, and meaningful leadership within emergency services. This episode offers a candid look at trauma, recovery, and the evolution of a career dedicated to honoring the past while improving the future.Episode Breakdown & Timestamps:[0:00] Introduction and Background of Dr. David GriffinOverview of Griffin’s career and his shift from baseball to firefighting.[0:02] Journey to the Fire ServiceHow a conversation with a fire chief led to an unexpected but lifelong career.[0:07] Training and Early Career ReflectionsDiscussion on early training gaps and how outdated practices shaped his outlook.[0:10] Mental Health and Organizational ChangeThe fire service’s growing focus on emotional well-being and leadership accountability.[0:18] Sofa Superstore Fire IncidentA detailed, moment-by-moment account of the tragic fire that claimed nine lives.[0:27] Aftermath and RecoveryThe emotional toll, public reaction, and the beginning of personal and organizational healing.[0:34] Leadership Evolution and LegacyPost-incident changes and the long-term impact of the Charleston Nine on policy and culture.[0:40] Therapy, Speaking, and Personal ImpactGriffin’s battle with PTSD, the healing role of therapy, and the emotional cost of public speaking.[0:51] Principles of LeadershipThe five core values that now guide his leadership style and mentorship philosophy.Key Moments:First-hand description of the 27-minute window that changed Charleston Fire forever.Reflections on leading with humility and empowering the next generation.The mental and emotional challenges of revisiting trauma through public speaking.How the loss of fellow firefighters spurred sweeping department-wide changes.Exploration of non-traditional therapies and long-term recovery strategies.Resources & Mentions:Rowley Report (Sofa Superstore Fire investigation)Upcoming book: 27 Minutes by Dr. David GriffinWaves of Recovery (Ibogaine therapy documentary)Related discussions: Travis Howes’ podcast on traumaGuest Information:Dr. David GriffinAssistant Chief, Charleston Fire DepartmentAuthor and national speaker on leadership and mental health in public safetyWebsite: drdavidgriffin.comInstagram: @drdavidgriffin

Deane Benninghoven, a certified hypnotherapist who specializes in treating anxiety, PTSD, addiction, and emotional trauma through hypnosis. Deane shares his personal journey from chronic pain and opioid dependency to healing through self-hypnosis, leading to a decades-long career helping others unlock the power of their subconscious. This conversation challenges common misconceptions, dives into how hypnosis works, and explores its surprising compatibility with traditional therapy.00:00 – 01:16 | IntroductionJake introduces Deane and sets the tone for a curious, open-minded exploration of hypnosis.01:17 – 07:57 | Deane's Origin StoryDeane recounts how a life-altering car accident led him to discover hypnosis as a tool for pain management and emotional healing.07:58 – 12:08 | What Hypnosis Really IsA breakdown of hypnosis, the subconscious mind, and how symptoms like anxiety or addiction often stem from unresolved patterns.12:09 – 16:42 | The Critical Faculty & Pattern ProtectionDeane explains the “guard” between the conscious and subconscious, and how hypnosis temporarily suspends it for healing.16:43 – 23:41 | Natural Hypnotic States & Trauma LoopsExamples of everyday hypnosis (e.g., driving, daydreaming) and how trauma gets “stuck” in the subconscious.23:42 – 34:20 | Rewiring Trauma with HypnosisThe mechanism behind changing one’s relationship to trauma without re-experiencing it, using Deane's "splinter" analogy.34:22 – 40:47 | Guided Hypnosis SessionDeane leads a short, safe, and relaxing live hypnosis session—ideal for first-time listeners.40:48 – 45:11 | How Hypnosis Empowers ChangePost-session discussion and anchoring techniques that help retrain emotional responses long-term.45:12 – 51:54 | Certifications, Credibility & Finding a PractitionerTips for finding a credible hypnotherapist and info on Deane’s work, especially with first responders."Hypnosis saved my life." – Deane shares how desperation led him to self-teach hypnosis after conventional treatments failed.“It’s not my hypnosis, it’s yours.” – Deane clarifies that hypnosis taps into the listener’s own natural state of mind.“Your subconscious doesn’t know you’re safe now.” – A powerful insight into how past trauma continues to echo through present-day behaviors.“Hypnosis is not sleep. It’s that in-between place we all experience.” – On the true nature of trance states.Summit Hypnosis NW: www.summithypnosisnw.comNational Guild of Hypnotists (Certification Body): www.ngh.netDeane BenninghovenCertified by the National Guild of HypnotistsOver 20 years of experienceSpecializes in working with trauma, anxiety, and first respondersOffers free consultations and hypnotherapy trainingWebsite: summithypnosisnw.com

This explosive episode dives into the story of Erik Holt, a former fire chief fired after reporting alleged election fraud—an election that installed the very board that terminated him. From military service and firefighting to confronting corruption, Holt walks us through his journey, decisions, and consequences.LINKS:https://www.gofundme.com/f/free-speech-retaliation-and-the-cost-of-integrity https://www.facebook.com/justiceforholt/Segment Breakdown & Timestamps:[0:00:00] Origins in Fire ServiceErik recounts his start in emergency services, high school recruitment, army firefighting in Iraq, and career progression in Colorado.[0:10:00] Becoming Fire Chief & Rebuilding a DepartmentTaking the helm in 2022, Erik discusses the chaos he inherited and his success in rebuilding a rural department—cutting response times from 19 to 7 minutes and increasing qualified responders from 4 to 62.[0:20:00] The Election SetupHe details the special district board’s structure and how all five seats unexpectedly opened for election—introducing a slate of opposition candidates.[0:30:00] Election Day AnomaliesErik responds to complaints about the election. He later reviews hours of surveillance footage (which anyone could legally access), discovering a pattern of coordinated, likely illegal poll watcher behavior and vote tracking.[0:40:00] The Scheme UnfoldsEvidence emerges of pre-counting ballots, illegal electioneering, and poll watchers using clickers to track compliant voters. The alleged “offsite coordinator” turns out to be the campaign manager’s husband.[0:50:00] Retaliation BeginsDespite no operational or disciplinary issues, Erik receives dubious orders—like disabling security systems—and the new board freezes fire department bank accounts just before a holiday weekend.[1:00:00] Fire Department Shut DownErik is ordered to shut down operations despite the insurance bill being paid. The board blames him, leading to a four-hour service disruption and massive public fallout.[1:10:00] Public Smear & TerminationDespite not controlling finances, Erik is fired under the pretext of “not paying insurance.” The event is turned into a bizarre celebration by the board with popcorn and lemonade.[1:20:00] Legal Fallout & Personal CostErik files a federal lawsuit (currently under appeal). Blackballed from firefighting, he loses his home and lives in a camper with his daughters while fighting to clear his name.Key Moments:Erik's rebuilding of a failing fire district into a professionally functioning agency in less than a year.Discovery of illegal poll watcher behavior including vote tracking and ballot manipulation.Board’s retaliation including bank account freezing and misuse of authority.Shocking termination under false pretense just 33 days after whistleblowing.Resources & References:Video evidence and court filings shared by Erik on his social media accounts.Colorado election statutes and open records laws (CORAs).Lookup: “Florrissant Fire Muster” for footage of the department’s final major public event.Guest Bio:Erik Holt is a former Army firefighter and veteran of Iraq, former chief of a Colorado fire district, and a whistleblower involved in an ongoing legal and public battle over local election integrity.

In this episode of the Hazard Class Podcast, we sit down with Deputy Chief Daniel DeYear, a 45-year veteran of the fire service, including notable positions such as U.S. Department of State Fire Marshal and Deputy Chief of Dallas Fire Rescue. In a candid conversation, Chief DeYear shares stories from his extensive career, including his early days in the fire service, the evolution of EMS and fire tactics, and the importance of training and accountability in today's fire departments.00:00 - Introduction to Chief Daniel DeYearIntroduction of Chief DeYear and his illustrious 45-year career in the fire service.Overview of his roles in Dallas Fire Rescue and as an international fire marshal with the U.S. Department of State.02:00 - Early Days in the Fire ServiceChief DeYear reflects on his upbringing in the Bronx during the 1960s and 70s, and how he was drawn to the fire service from a young age.Becoming a junior volunteer firefighter at the age of 14.The early influence of the Emergency! TV show and Dennis Smith's Report from Engine Company 82.05:30 - Firefighting in the 70s and 80s: Primitive Tools and CommunicationDescription of early fire gear, including 15-minute SCBAs, and the lack of radios for firefighters.A look at the culture of firehouse accountability before formalized systems were introduced.Chief DeYear's early experiences with dangerous fires, such as the incident where he helped rescue a firefighter trapped under a collapsed beam at the age of 15.09:40 - Realizing the Fire Service Was the Career PathChief DeYear talks about his decision to pursue firefighting as a lifelong career and how his family supported his path despite their initial reservations.The competitive job market in the fire service at the time and his journey to becoming a firefighter in Texas.14:00 - Transition to the Dallas Fire Department and Working as a Fire MarshalChief DeYear’s move to Texas and his time at the Carrollton Fire Department.His work as a Fire Marshal, public educator, and later, a training officer.His time as an international fire marshal and what that role entailed while traveling to over 35 countries.22:00 - The Evolution of EMS and ParamedicineEarly days of EMS in the U.S. and Chief DeYear’s experience as a paramedic in the early 80s.28:00 - Fire Tactics and Safety: A Changing LandscapeDiscussing the evolution of fire tactics, including changes in firefighting gear, communication, and building construction.The shift from traditional fire tactics to more advanced practices, including better understanding of fire science and building construction.34:00 - The Role of Company Officers and LeadershipChief DeYear’s thoughts on what makes a good company officer in the fire service.The importance of mentorship, investing in the crew, and avoiding complacency.43:00 - Line of Duty Deaths and Safety CultureChief DeYear reflects on his experiences with line of duty deaths and the fire investigations that shaped his perspective on safety.The importance of assessing risk versus reward and the need for smart decision-making on the fireground.50:00 - Training and Improving the Fire ServiceThe value of continuous training, even after years of service, and the importance of self-assessment.Chief DeYear’s thoughts on how to cultivate a training culture that embraces learning, even among experienced firefighters.1:00:00 - Handling Critiques and Learning from MistakesChief DeYear discusses how to properly handle post-incident critiques without turning them into punitive sessions.The importance of balancing positive reinforcement with constructive feedback in fire department training.1:05:00 - Chief DeYear’s Advice for Young FirefightersThe role of company officers in shaping the career trajectories of young firefighters.How to guide rookie firefighters and ensure they remain engaged and passionate about their work.

In the Season 2 premiere of the Hazard Class Podcast, Jake sits down with John Esposito, Chief of Department for the FDNY, for an intimate and wide-ranging discussion on leadership, legacy, and the realities of life in one of the world’s busiest fire departments. From 9/11 reflections and the evolution of FDNY to the traits of impactful leaders and memorable fireground moments, Chief Esposito shares hard-earned wisdom and never-before-heard stories that offer rare insight into the heart of New York’s Bravest.0:00 – 2:45 | Intro & 9/11 ReflectionsJake introduces Chief Esposito and shares a personal 9/11 memory.Chief discusses how 9/11 reshaped the FDNY and the lasting impact on the department’s culture and capabilities.2:46 – 6:00 | The FDNY’s National InfluenceHow FDNY’s decisions ripple across the American Fire Service.Lessons learned through innovation and trial by fire.6:01 – 12:00 | Staying Connected to the StreetsChief Esposito explains how he maintains real-time awareness of field operations.Insights on technology, communication systems, and his use of Citizen App.12:01 – 14:26 | Origins & Career BeginningsWhy Esposito joined the FDNY in 1991.Reflections on becoming a firefighter and the influence of Report from Engine Co. 82.14:27 – 18:00 | First Fire & Early LessonsVivid recollection of his first fire.Thoughts on preparation, performance, and the emotional charge of that first job.18:01 – 21:15 | Transition to Special OperationsMoving to Squad 18 and working with elite fire personnel.The rigorous process and mindset behind making the switch.21:16 – 25:35 | Training Culture & Tough CallsThe philosophy of consistent, adaptive training.Real-world example: A Bronx rescue where plan B wasn’t good enough—they needed plan E.25:36 – 30:04 | Memories of Andy FredericksPersonal stories and heartfelt tribute to a fire service legend.A hilarious and humbling hydrant mishap involving Fredericks.30:05 – 33:25 | Climbing the RanksPost-9/11 promotions and unexpected career trajectory.How staying ready allowed him to rise in leadership.33:26 – 36:32 | Leadership & MoraleThe most important traits in fire service leadership.Balancing empathy, accountability, and understanding your people.36:33 – 38:08 | Caring for MoraleWhere morale comes from and how leaders must foster it.Real-life examples of FDNY’s finest doing heroic work.38:09 – 40:00 | Pride & PurposeWhat Chief Esposito is most proud of in his career.Doing the right thing in gray-area decisions.40:01 – 41:21 | The Stupid Question ReturnsOG question: Who would win in a fight—grizzly, tiger, or gorilla?Fun and lighthearted close with reflections on strength and instinct.Segment Breakdown & Timestamps:

Jake is joined by Lt. Col. Quinn Gallagher, a veteran U.S. Air Force pilot with nearly 20 years of service. Gallagher's story is one of deep personal loss, resilience, and unwavering dedication to preserving life—both on and off the battlefield. From harrowing combat rescue missions in Afghanistan and Iraq to evaluating cutting-edge aircraft as an experimental test pilot, Quinn shares a raw and insightful look into military aviation, emotional endurance, and the pursuit of purpose through service.Segment Timestamps:00:00 – Introduction and Guest WelcomeJake introduces the episode and welcomes Lt. Col. Quinn Gallagher to the show.06:51 – Wheel of Stupid Questions: Can You Beat a Cheetah?Kicking things off with a humorous debate about whether Quinn could beat a cheetah in a fight.13:42 – Quinn's Childhood and Motivation for ServiceQuinn recounts early childhood experiences that sparked his desire to serve others.20:34 – Tragedy and Early Exposure to LossHe shares tragic events that shaped his understanding of life and death from a young age.27:25 – Firefighting vs. Military – Career CrossroadsExploring the decision between firefighting and joining the military.34:17 – Path to the Air Force AcademyHow Quinn got into the Air Force Academy, including a unique presidential nomination.41:08 – Air Force Training and Vision WaiversDiscussion of the challenges and special accommodations needed to become a pilot.48:00 – Flight Training and Choosing HelicoptersAn inside look at military flight school and why Quinn opted to fly helicopters.54:51 – First Combat Deployment: AfghanistanStories from Quinn’s first deployment in Afghanistan and his early combat missions.61:43 – Crew Composition and Helicopter OperationsDetails about helicopter crew roles, mission dynamics, and technical aspects of flying.68:34 – SERE School and Mental PreparationInsights into SEER training and how it prepares pilots for survival and resistance.75:25 – Second and Third Deployments: Iraq and AfricaOperations in Iraq and Africa, comparing the intensity and mission scope.82:17 – Test Pilot Work and Evaluating AircraftGallagher's role as a test pilot and what it’s like evaluating advanced military aircraft.89:08 – Reflections on Service and Returning HomeQuinn reflects on combat, mental health, burnout, and transitioning to civilian life.

The Hazard Class Podcast takes a step back to reflect on one year of podcasting. Celebrating the show's first anniversary, he shares behind-the-scenes insights, the journey so far, mental health milestones, and exciting future directions. This episode offers a rare, personal look into the making of the podcast, the powerful impact of its guests, and what’s ahead—including a few intriguing curveballs like Bigfoot and ghost hunters.Segment Breakdown & Timestamps[00:00] Welcome & IntroductionReflecting on the anniversary and how it all began.[01:30] Gratitude to Listeners & GuestsExpressing deep appreciation for the audience and highlighting iconic guests like John Norman, Dennis Lagear, Ray McCormick, and Coralie Moore.[04:50] Podcast Milestones & Guest HighlightsA recap of some standout moments and interviews from the past year.[07:10] Mental Health JourneyPersonal update on visiting the IAFF Center of Excellence and how it’s impacted his life and the podcast.[09:25] Current Challenges & Behind-the-ScenesDiscussing the grind of weekly production and the realities of running a podcast solo.[11:10] Upcoming Fire Fusion Conference & Medal of ValorSharing the honor of receiving a national award and traveling to Charleston, SC.[14:00] Mason’s Deployment & Team AcknowledgmentRecognizing his colleague Mason, currently deployed, and emphasizing the team effort behind the recognition.[16:30] Life Updates & Lighter MomentsTalking about kayaking with dolphins, crocodile paranoia, and keeping the tone light and fun.[18:30] What’s Next for the PodcastPlans to diversify guest topics including Bigfoot, aliens, and ghost hunters. A sneak peek into a curious and expanded vision for future episodes.[21:00] Closing Remarks & Thank YouA sincere thank-you to listeners and encouragement to continue supporting the show.Key Moments & Highlights“Never in my wildest dreams did I think I'd talk to these people.” – A moment of humility reflecting on conversations with industry legends.Honest insight into the emotional and logistical challenges of independent podcasting.Teaser for future content: From hazmat to the paranormal—because it’s his podcast, and he’ll do what he wants.As the Hazard Class Podcast wraps its first year, this episode offers gratitude, reflection, and a preview of what’s next. From tactical insights to unexplored curiosities, the host promises to keep conversations meaningful and the content evolving.Enjoyed the episode?Subscribe on your favorite podcast appShare it with friends and colleaguesFollow us on Social MediaLeave a review – it helps more than you knowThank you for an incredible first year. Here's to many more.

We welcome Chief Corley Moore, retired battalion chief, author, podcaster, and the mind behind Firehouse Vigilance. Known for his thought leadership in fire service culture, leadership development, and his popular “Weekly Scrap” podcast, Corley shares his personal journey from a young father working dead-end jobs to becoming a leader and voice in the fire service.This episode is packed with relatable stories, valuable leadership principles, reflections on organizational culture, and a deep dive into the importance of training, humility, and continual growth within the fire service.Segment Breakdown & Timestamps:0:00 – 1:04 | Introduction & Guest WelcomeIntroduction to Chief Corley Moore, his background, and work with Firehouse Vigilance.1:05 – 3:37 | Wheel of Stupid QuestionsCorley reveals his nerdy side, including his love for sci-fi, D&D, and 80s fantasy trivia.3:38 – 10:48 | Corley’s Firefighting Origin StoryFrom marrying young and raising three kids by 23 to joining the fire service by chance, Corley shares how he found his calling.10:49 – 18:28 | Early Career & Moore FD CultureWhat the Moore FD was like in the late ‘90s, from frat-house vibes to a lack of training, and the slow shift toward professionalism.18:29 – 25:49 | The Culture Shift & Value of TrainingCorley recounts the challenges and triumphs in shifting from complacency to a culture of excellence—and how training became the cornerstone.25:50 – 33:03 | Leadership Journey & Writing ProcessCorley discusses his passion for leadership, the origins of his “Nine L’s,” and how laying tile taught him to write books.33:04 – 37:11 | First Fire & Lessons LearnedCorley recalls his first real fire, the adrenaline, the mistakes, and the lessons about preparedness and training.37:12 – 44:00 | Promotions, Growth, and Self-AssessmentReflections on career transitions—from firefighter to driver, to company officer, and eventually to BC—plus what skills matter at each step.44:01 – 59:28 | Leadership Standards & Culture CreationDeep dive into setting expectations, accountability, and servant leadership—plus the challenge of promoting healthy firehouse culture.59:29 – End | Staying Engaged, Building Impact, and Final ReflectionsHow high-performing leaders stay motivated, the role of conferences, and why expectations at the top determine performance at the bottom.Resources & References:Corley Moore’s Work:Firehouse Vigilance WebsiteThe Nine L’s of Leadership – BookWeekly Scrap Podcast: Interviews with fire service leadersAbout the Guest – Chief Corley Moore:Chief Corley Moore is a retired battalion chief from the Moore Fire Department in Oklahoma, with over 28 years of service. He is the founder of Firehouse Vigilance, host of the Weekly Scrap podcast, and author of The Nine L’s of Leadership. His mission is to fight complacency and raise the standard of fire service culture through training, accountability, and meaningful leadership.

Jake sits down with Josh Shores, a Marine Infantry Combat Veteran, Purple Heart recipient, retired firefighter, and author of the raw and gripping memoir "Counting on Death." Together, they explore Josh's harrowing experiences during the Iraq War, his emotional return to civilian life, his time in the fire service, and his long journey through trauma, identity, and healing.Segment Breakdown & Timestamps:0:00 – 1:31 | Introduction & Guest Welcome Introduction to the podcast and guest Josh Shores, highlighting his military service and new book Counting on Death.1:32 – 5:49 | Writing Through Trauma Josh discusses how the book started as cognitive therapy and eventually became a published work despite pushback for its raw content.5:50 – 8:50 | Writing for Self vs. Audience The discussion explores how writing for himself allowed Josh to dig deeper emotionally and share more honestly.8:51 – 12:51 | Counting on Death & Mental Weight of War Josh expands on a haunting line from the book and explains how unclear missions and moral ambiguity left deeper scars than combat itself.12:52 – 15:08 | Who Should Read This Book? Josh articulates the book’s purpose: as a tool for veterans and first responders to help others understand what they can’t say aloud.15:09 – 19:51 | Humor, Irony, and the Bonds of War A humorous anecdote about a malfunctioning rifle leads into a broader reflection on the camaraderie and absurdity found in war.19:52 – 23:08 | From Warfighter to Firefighter Josh shares his transition to the fire service, drawing parallels between combat and firefighting, and the eventual emotional and physical toll.23:09 – 26:39 | Injury, Advocacy & Departure from the Fire Service A serious injury and lack of institutional support led Josh to leave the fire service. He reflects on loss of identity and resilience.26:40 – 29:33 | Judgment & Misconceptions The hosts reflect on how people misunderstand mental health struggles and the fire service’s rumor mill.29:34 – 36:06 | Mental Health in High-Stress Careers A candid conversation on therapy, the compounding stress of first responder life, and the generational shift toward addressing mental health.36:07 – 44:40 | Parenting, Perspective, and the Fragility of Life Josh reflects on fatherhood, the importance of patience with children, and how his exposure to death reshapes his everyday decisions as a parent.44:41 – End | Final Reflections & Where to Find the Book Josh shares the core hope behind his book: helping others understand the mental toll of trauma and how to open conversations around it.Resources & References:Counting on Death: A Marine Infantryman’s Journey from the Frontlines of Combat to the Fight for Peace Available on:AmazonBarnes & NobleAudibleCasemate PublishersPodcast Mentioned:Nomadic Research Podcast with Dagan Van Oosten – an in-depth discussion on the book and Josh’s experiences.About the Guest – Josh Shores:Josh Shores is a Marine Corps infantry veteran with combat deployments to Ramadi, Iraq, and Afghanistan. After military service, he became a firefighter, only to later leave due to a debilitating injury and the emotional toll of accumulated trauma. His memoir Counting on Death is a candid, unfiltered look at war, loss, healing, and resilience.Subscribe to the podcast, share this episode, and continue the conversation around mental health, trauma, and recovery.

Jake talks with Eric Guida, a retired Fire Captain from Sacramento Fire Department and now Sales Director at HEN Nozzles. With more than 30 years of experience, Eric opens up about his early inspirations, firefighting culture, leadership lessons, and why the future of fireground safety lies in innovation. It’s a candid conversation bridging tradition and technology, with advice that resonates far beyond the firehouse.Segment Breakdown & Timestamps(0:00–1:13) – Welcome & Guest IntroHost introduces Eric Guida and gives context to his 30-year career and current role with HEN Nozzles.(1:15–3:20) – Wheel of Stupid Questions: Talking DogsEric shares a lighthearted moment about the one animal he’d want to talk to if he could—his family dog.(3:20–12:44) – From Vet School Dreams to Fire Service RealityEric recounts his unexpected journey into firefighting, including a pivotal moment with a bottle of ouzo and a phone book.(12:45–17:47) – Adjusting to Big City FirefightingFrom Fair Oaks to Sacramento, Eric discusses the cultural shift, increased call volume, and lessons from his early mentors.(17:48–20:36) – When Firefighters Should Start Speaking UpExploring leadership from the backseat and the reality of who gets heard—and why.(20:37–27:03) – Promotion, Influence & the Value of IdeasEric reflects on his motivation to promote and the challenges of filtering good ideas in a data-driven world.(27:04–30:39) – Engine Company Ops: What's Being Missed?Advice on fundamentals: line deployment, water application, and the importance of not rushing at the cost of effectiveness.(30:40–36:18) – Captain Lessons: If I Knew Then What I Know NowEric shares what he would tell his newly promoted self about finding rhythm, style, and staying adaptable.(36:20–39:20) – Combating Pride in the Fire ServiceThe importance of humility and asking questions, and why firehouse culture must be safe for learning.(39:22–42:15) – Saying Goodbye: The Reality of RetirementAn emotional look at transitioning out of the fire service and what Eric misses the most about the job.(42:15–46:08) – Firehouse Marriage Advice from 37 YearsEric offers wise and empathetic advice on marriage, parenting, and showing up at home while serving the public.(46:08–50:59) – Joining Hen Nozzles: From Retirement to ReinventionA LinkedIn message leads to a second career helping shape the future of firefighting tools.(50:59–56:43) – The Bladed Stream: Rethinking the Fire NozzleEric explains the science and field testing behind Henn’s groundbreaking nozzle design.(56:43–End) – What’s Next for Hen & A Mission to Give BackNew innovations, expanding reach, and Eric’s drive to make the fire service safer for the next generation.Key Moments & Insights“You can lead from all rungs of the ladder.”“Fail in training, not on the fireground.”“I wasn’t looking to retire—but it was time.”“This is the best firefighting nozzle ever made.”Guest Info: Eric GuidaFormer Role: Fire Captain, Sacramento Fire DepartmentCurrent Role: Sales Director, HEN NozzlesCareer: 30+ years in fire service

Jake sits down with Tanner Shipman, a seasoned law enforcement officer from Anoka County, Minnesota, who recently received national acclaim for his courageous actions while off duty during a gunfight in Sturgis, South Dakota. With 20 years of service under his belt, Tanner recounts the harrowing incident that earned him multiple "Officer of the Year" honors and reflects on his career, the evolving landscape of policing, and the deeply personal impact of that life-altering day.Segment Breakdown with Timestamps:0:00 – Introduction & Guest Bio Meet Tanner Shipman: 20-year veteran, former FTO and apprehension deputy, two-time Medal of Valor recipient, and recent awardee for his off-duty heroism.1:10 – The Jiu-Jitsu Champion Tanner shares a lighthearted take on his recent jiu-jitsu victory and competing in the "Masters 4" division.2:36 – Stupid Question Tradition Jake asks: “Who would play you in the movie of your life?” Tanner's answer adds a humorous start to the episode.3:35 – Why Law Enforcement? Tanner talks about growing up in Anoka County and how a high school tour of a jail sparked his interest in law enforcement.6:45 – Career Path & Early Struggles Details about Tanner’s unconventional path to becoming a deputy, including setbacks and working his way through tech school.9:00 – The Realities of Field Training An inside look into the phases of field training and the “dog watch” night shift experience.11:15 – Anoka County Demographics An overview of the county Tanner serves: size, structure, and how deputies are assigned.13:00 – The Evolution of Policing How societal changes since 2014 have affected law enforcement recruitment and morale.15:15 – Body Cams & Public Perception Tanner discusses the pros and cons of body cameras and the importance of context in interpreting footage.18:00 – Misconceptions About the Job He shares how the public often underestimates the complexity and emotional intensity of law enforcement.20:30 – Building Trust with the Community The role of citizens' academies and reserve programs in improving public understanding.Key Segment: The Sturgis Gunfight (22:30 - 51:00)Tanner recounts the harrowing moment he intervened in an active shooter situation while off duty in Sturgis, South Dakota:Witnessing a trooper in a gunfightRunning unarmed toward dangerUsing his sister-in-law’s handgunEngaging the suspectProviding emergency medical aidEmotional aftermath with his familyThis is a powerful, moment-by-moment retelling of bravery, faith, and instinctive action under life-threatening circumstances.Emotional Aftermath & Reflections (51:00 – End)51:00 – Processing the Event Tanner discusses the emotional toll on himself and his family and the unexpected waves of trauma post-event.54:30 – Public Recognition & Awards How the law enforcement community responded, and what it felt like to be celebrated for something he considered simply “the right thing to do.”58:00 – Philosophical Reflections A thoughtful discussion about good vs. evil, humanizing both the badge and the people law enforcement serves, and what true service means.Key Moments & Quotes:“There was no hesitation. I knew I had to act.”“Wouldn’t any cop do that?” — a question Tanner asks himself until others tell him, “No, not everyone would.”“Even these people... the only thing they’re left with is their dignit

We chat with Bobby Salvesen, a retired FDNY Hazmat One member, co-founder of the Hazmat Guys, and former ultramarathon runner. Bobby shares his journey from growing up in Levittown, NY, to becoming a leading hazmat instructor. He discusses his time in FDNY, the origin of the Hazmat Guys podcast, and his passion for educating others in hazmat operations.In this episode, Bobby discusses:[2:06] – Wheel of Stupid QuestionsAI’s future and whether it could become sentient and destroy humanity.[5:52] – Bobby’s Origin StoryGrowing up in Levittown and his love for running, which shaped his competitive mindset.[8:49] – Early Firefighting DaysJoining the fire service at 18, and transitioning from EMS to FDNY.[11:39] – Joining FDNY and Special OperationsHis transition to FDNY, becoming part of Special Operations after 9/11.[23:19] – Moving to Hazmat OneHis move to Hazmat One after 12 years with Squad 288 and leveraging his chemistry degree.[26:08] – The Beginning of Hazmat GuysHow the Hazmat Guys podcast started and the challenges of building a hazmat education platform.[31:22] – Teaching and MentorshipBobby’s journey into teaching, from training officer in the volunteer fire service to FDNY's department-wide instructor.[37:37] – The Future of Hazmat GuysUpcoming projects and collaborations with states and countries.[40:39] – Hobbies and Life Outside of HazmatHis involvement in ultramarathons, owning a trophy shop, and competitive bagpiping.[43:27] – Looking Back and Looking ForwardBobby’s reflections on his career and his excitement for the Southern Most Hazmat Conference.Follow us on Social Media.Subscribe and Review:If you enjoyed today’s episode, please leave us a review on ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠ or ⁠Spotify⁠.