Healthcare Interior Design 2.0

"Can we design a small enough hospital where the intimacy of care matches the human scale, more residential than institutional?" — Mike McKay on the Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 podcast On today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0, Cheryl welcomes Mike McKay, AIA, ACHE, EDAC, LEED AP, Healthcare Market Sector Leader at Erdman. Mike's relationship with architecture began early — really early. In kindergarten, he was already building little cities in his basement to the scale of his Matchbox cars. Years later, during his last year at Ball State, a difficult four-day hospital stay gave him a deeply personal understanding of how healthcare environments can affect patients — and why, as Mike says, "we can do better." Cheryl and Mike explore Erdman's fascinating roots through founder Marshall Erdman, whose relationship with Frank Lloyd Wright helped shape the firm's early thinking around design, construction, prefabrication, and integrated project delivery. They also discuss Erdman's 1950s Doctors Park concept, a forward-thinking model that brought multiple physician practices together in a more accessible, community-based setting. The conversation also touches on Beverly Willis, FAIA, women in Frank Lloyd Wright's studio, Erdman's "under one roof" legacy, and the role of daylight, nature, evidence-based design, collaboration, and human scale in healthcare environments. At the heart of the episode is a question that feels both simple and profound: can we design healthcare environments where the intimacy of care actually matches the human scale? In this episode, Cheryl and Mike discuss: Mike's early path into architecture and healthcare design How a difficult personal patient experience shaped Mike's healthcare design perspective Marshall Erdman's relationship with Frank Lloyd Wright Erdman's early work on the First Unitarian Society Meeting House in Madison Prefabrication, industrialized construction, and Erdman's "under one roof" approach Doctors Park and the early evolution of community-based healthcare design Beverly Willis, women in Frank Lloyd Wright's studio, and women's leadership in healthcare design How Erdman's integrated project delivery mindset continues to influence the firm today Why healthcare projects need a clear "why" before design begins Data-informed design, advisory services, and strategic planning in healthcare The importance of daylight, nature, gardens, comfort, and domestic-scale spaces Why healthcare design must consider inward-facing and outward-facing spaces differently Mike's reflections on favorite Erdman projects, including senior living, emergency care, pediatric oncology, and behavioral health The importance of human scale in hospitals and healthcare environments Why the client, patient, staff, and community experience must remain at the center of every project KEY TAKEAWAYS Mike McKay's path into healthcare design was shaped by both professional opportunity and personal experience. An early hospital stay as a young architecture student left him with a vivid memory of how healthcare environments can affect patients — and a belief that design can do better. Erdman's roots are deeply connected to founder Marshall Erdman's relationship with Frank Lloyd Wright, beginning with Erdman's work as the contractor for Wright's First Unitarian Society Meeting House in Madison, Wisconsin. Marshall Erdman was ahead of his time in thinking about integrated project delivery, prefabrication, industrialized construction, affordability, quality, and the total cost of ownership. Erdman's early Doctors Park concept was a forward-thinking healthcare model for the 1950s, bringing multiple physician practices together in an accessible, community-based setting at a time when many physicians worked from downtown offices, hospitals, or even made house calls. The firm's "under one roof" model — bringing planning, design, construction, delivery, and advisory thinking together — continues to influence Erdman's culture, even as the firm has evolved beyond its earlier design-build structure. Mike emphasizes that healthcare projects need a clear "why." A project should be the right project, in the right place, at the right time, and sustainable for the owner and the community it serves. Women have played an important role in Erdman's history and continue to shape healthcare design today, particularly through interior design, architecture, patient perspective, and multidisciplinary collaboration. Healthcare environments need to be designed at a human scale. Mike challenges the tendency to create large, complicated healthcare footprints that designers then spend enormous energy trying to humanize. Daylight, nature, gardens, respite, views, and access to the outdoors are not decorative extras. They are essential to how patients, families, and staff experience care. Interior design and interior architecture are especially important in healthcare spaces that cannot always have daylight or views, such as imaging, treatment, or technology-heavy environments. Mike's work and thinking are grounded in evidence-based design, patient-centered design, and multidisciplinary collaboration. At the heart of Mike's message is a reminder that healthcare design is not about the architect's ego or the firm's portfolio. It is about the people who use the building: patients, families, staff, clinicians, owners, and communities. RESOURCES MENTIONED ERDMAN https://www.erdman.com/ Mike McKay, AIA, ACHE, EDAC, LEED AP, NCARB — ERDMAN https://www.erdman.com/about/mike-mckay-aia-ache-edac-leed-ap-ncarb/ Uncommon Sense: The Life of Marshall Erdman https://www.amazon.com/Uncommon-Sense-Life-Marshall-Erdman/dp/1931599319 First Unitarian Society Meeting House https://www.unitarianmeetinghouse.org/ Frank Lloyd Wright Foundation — Unitarian Meeting House https://franklloydwright.org/site/unitarian-meeting-house/ Beverly Willis Architecture Foundation https://bwaf.org/ A Girl is a Fellow Here: 100 Women Architects in the Studio of Frank Lloyd Wright https://bwaf.org/resources/film-collection/a-girl-is-a-fellow-here The Center for Health Design https://www.healthdesign.org/ The Center for Health Design Touchstone Awards https://www.healthdesign.org/certification-outreach/awards-recognition/touchstone-awards Institute for Patient-Centered Design http://www.patientcentereddesign.org/ Ball State University — Estopinal College of Architecture and Planning https://www.bsu.edu/academics/collegesanddepartments/cap LECOM Medical Center and Behavioral Health Pavilion, formerly Millcreek Community Hospital https://lecomhealth.com/location/lecom-medical-center-and-behavioral-health-pavilion/ Lehigh Valley Hospital–Cedar Crest https://www.lvhn.org/locations/lehigh-valley-hospital-cedar-crest MEMORABLE GUEST QUOTES "We can do better. I know we can do better." "It started out more holistically with, 'Is there a better way to deliver projects?' The notion of integrated project delivery—Marshall was all about that in 1950." "Marshall was always concerned about the efficiency of the process and the cost at the end of the day. That being said, he was also all about quality and maintaining quality." "It has to be right. It has to serve a purpose. It has to be sustainable." "It's data-informed design." "We spend all of our time as designers… trying to mitigate the challenges that such a large footprint starts to create for the humans inside of this footprint." "Frank was all about connecting his architecture to the space and place and to nature." "We're human creatures. We want to see if it's sunny outside or raining." "It's a constant dialogue, Cheryl, and it takes a multidisciplinary team, in my opinion, to do it well." "Can we design a small enough hospital where the intimacy of care matches the human scale, more residential than institutional?" "Be mindful of the scale of what we're proposing and keep it human-centered." "It is the client's project. It is the stakeholders, the users of that project that matter." "At the end of the day, it's about the people that are using that project. They have to matter most." CONNECT WITH MIKE Mike McKay, AIA, ACHE, EDAC, LEED AP Healthcare Market Sector Leader, ERDMAN LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michaelmckayaia/ Email: [email protected]: https://www.erdman.com/ OUR SPONSOR This podcast is sponsored by Porcelanosa. Download the latest issue of Lifestyle magazine to see award winning architecture, interior design and wellness projects worldwide. Just go to Porcelanosa.com and search Lifestyle magazine to access the complete library…. and be inspired. OUR INDUSTRY PARTNERS The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Porcelanosa are at the forefront of sustainable manufacturing – clients not only expect this of their suppliers but are increasingly asking to see the receipts. Let's unpack this, did you know that hundreds of preeminent members of The American Institute of Architects –  The AIA – have signed the AIA Materials Pledge? The Pledge is aligned with the Mindful Materials Common Materials Framework – the CMF. This is just one, very impressive example of how the movement to support decision making for building product selection has reached new highs. We can see these explained as 5 pillars of sustainability: (The first) - Human Health: Focusing on avoiding hazardous substances and promoting well-being. (Then) - Social Health & Equity: Addressing human rights and fair labor practices throughout the supply chain. (The third) is Ecosystem Health: Supporting the regeneration of natural resources and habitats. (This is followed by) Climate Health: Reducing and sequestering carbon emissions. (And the fifth pillar) is The Circular Economy: Promoting a zero-waste future through design for resilience, adaptability, and reuse. I mentioned the receipts -How do we track the progress of these principles and values? Without measurement, there's no clear path to improvement or accountability. The Mindful Materials CMF maps a framework of over 650 sustainability factors across those five key areas. A cornerstone of material health transparency is an Environmental Product Declaration EPD report. The best are independently verified for accuracy by third party certification bodies – a company cannot mark their own report cards. EPDs are highly technical documents containing scientific information on the embodied carbon used to manufacture products. I have just read and included here an EPD for a Porcelanosa Tile – there are upwards of 1000 data inputs to quantify its climate impact. Porcelanosa offer the confidence and certainty of knowing that every tile, every slab of XTONE porcelain or KRION solid surface  has a Product Specific EPD – when architects and designers work with these materials they are making a robust decision to meet their sustainable design goals. To learn more about how Porcelanosa help their customers design for resiliency, here is a link to their comprehensive Corporate Social Responsibility Report: https://www.porcelanosa.com/en/corporate-social-responsibility/.

"Everything is shifting at once — our care models, technology, AI, capital pressures, workforce dynamics." — Elizabeth Sullivan on HID2.0 In this episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0, Cheryl Janis sits down with Elizabeth Sullivan, Principal and Regional Co-Leader of Healthcare Northeast at HOK and adjunct professor at The New York School of Interior Design for a deeply thoughtful conversation about healthcare architecture, lived experience, mentorship, and the future of humane healthcare environments. Elizabeth shares how she went from thinking healthcare architecture sounded "boring" to discovering that it is one of the most meaningful, complex, and human-centered areas of design. With experience spanning architectural practice, the owner side, teaching, and her own personal experiences as a patient, Elizabeth brings a rare and powerful lens to what healthcare spaces are — and what they still need to become. Together, Cheryl and Elizabeth explore the next wave of healthcare design, the importance of flexibility and adaptability, the emotional weight of hospitals, the role of respite spaces, and why small details — even the chair in a patient room — can have an enormous impact. In This Episode, Cheryl and Elizabeth Discuss Elizabeth's unexpected path into healthcare architecture Why healthcare design is far more creative, emotional, and complex than she first imagined How her experiences as a patient shaped the way she thinks about space The idea that healthcare architecture is on the edge of a major transformation Why future healthcare environments must be more adaptable and resilient How care models, AI, capital pressures, workforce dynamics, and sustainability are influencing design The importance of respite spaces for patients, families, and staff Why mentorship and apprenticeship still matter deeply in architecture What designers often misunderstand about the owner side of healthcare How curiosity can help young professionals find their place in healthcare design Why empathy is not abstract — it shows up in the questions designers ask The surprising importance of the chair in a patient room KEY TAKEAWAYS Healthcare design is deeply human. Elizabeth's early assumption that healthcare architecture would be overly technical changed when she realized the work is centered around people in some of life's most vulnerable moments. We are not waiting for transformation — we are already inside it. Elizabeth describes healthcare architecture as being on the cusp of a major shift, driven by care models, technology, AI, capital pressures, workforce dynamics, sustainability, infrastructure, and community health. Future healthcare environments need to behave less like static buildings and more like adaptable systems. One of Elizabeth's strongest points is that designers are no longer simply "building buildings." They are designing systems that must flex, evolve, and respond over time. Long-term healthcare planning has to become more flexible and realistic. Elizabeth challenges the idea of rigid 20-year master plans, pointing instead toward shorter planning horizons, modular thinking, strategic adaptability, and future-ready infrastructure. The owner's perspective changes everything. Her experience working on the owner side gave her a deeper understanding of capital constraints, operating budgets, shifting priorities, stakeholders, schedules, and why even strong projects can change direction. Mentorship is not extra — it is part of the profession. Elizabeth speaks beautifully about the mentors who shaped her and why she now feels called to teach what students and young professionals cannot always learn from books alone. Empathy shows up in the questions designers ask. For Elizabeth, empathetic design is not just a feeling; it is a process of listening carefully, asking people to walk through their day, understanding their pain points, and translating those insights into better environments. Healthcare design has many entry points. For people drawn to the field, Elizabeth emphasizes that healthcare design can include planning, research, furniture design, workplace strategy, operations, management, and more — not only traditional architecture. The most humane healthcare environments create comfort, safety, and emotional relief. Elizabeth imagines future healthcare spaces that help take people's minds away from the stress of being somewhere they may not have chosen to be. Small details carry enormous weight. Her reflection on "the chair" is a perfect example: a seemingly minor design choice can affect patients, family members, caregivers, clinicians, and staff for hours at a time. RESOURCES MENTIONED   New York School of Interior Design — Master of Professional Studies in Design of Healthcare Environments A graduate program focused on healthcare interiors, including research methods, healthcare history and theory, environmental and behavioral studies, applied design, sustainable design, and lighting research. Healthcare Architecture in an Era of Radical Transformation — Stephen Verderber and David J. Fine The book connected to the "waves of healthcare architecture" idea discussed in the episode. It was published by Yale University Press in 2000 and focuses on hospital architecture and healthcare facility design. Healthcare Architecture in an Era of Radical Transformation — Open Library listing A clean bibliographic listing with ISBN information, publisher details, and publication date. Innovations in Hospital Architecture — Stephen Verderber A related Verderber resource on sustainable hospital architecture, carbon-neutral care settings, future planning, and contemporary hospital design. Ana Pinto-Alexander — HKS Profile Cheryl references Ana Pinto-Alexander during the conversation. HKS lists her as Principal Emeritus and notes her extensive healthcare and pediatric design work. Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 Podcast Episode 1 — Ana Pinto-Alexander The earlier episode Cheryl references, centered on empathy, healthcare interiors, and Ana's personal connection to healthcare design. Montefiore Einstein — Our History Background on Montefiore Einstein, including its relationship with Albert Einstein College of Medicine and the 2015 agreement that transferred operational and financial responsibility for the College of Medicine to Montefiore. MEMORABLE GUEST QUOTES "What I didn't realize is that healthcare is deeply human. It's not just about buildings. It's about the people and the most vulnerable moments." "That's a very common connection for people who decide to go into healthcare — it becomes deeply personal." "Those experiences at 10 years old shape the way that I think about how we create space today." "I believe that we are really on the cusp of transformation." "That experience really shifted my perspective from this technical thing to something more meaningful. And once that clicked, there was no going back." "We're not just building buildings anymore. We're designing systems that need to adapt over time." "The day a hospital opens, it's outdated." "The respite spaces — places for people to go and have a moment — are really critical in healthcare." "Those moments are really important for people's well-being." "Architecture is apprenticeship." "I am here for you." "You don't understand it's a different set of pressures." "I would encourage anybody who is in architecture to work on the owner's side and really have a better understanding of why we do what we do." "Walk me through a day in the life — and they will often talk about what their challenges are. It's up to us to help them find the solutions." "I think the level of innovation and thoughtfulness that's happening right now… that's what I'm hopeful for." "Inside these healthcare environments, feeling comfortable, feeling safe… to have an environment that sort of takes you away from a place you may not have a choice to be in." "The chairs are really important. They really are." Guest Bio Elizabeth Sullivan is Principal and Regional Co-Leader of Healthcare Northeast at HOK. Her work bridges architectural practice, healthcare ownership, strategic planning, mentorship, and education. With experience on both the design and owner sides of healthcare environments, Elizabeth brings a uniquely holistic perspective to the future of healthcare architecture. She also serves as adjunct professor at the New York School of Interior Design, helping students and emerging professionals understand the business, operational, and human realities behind healthcare design. Connect with Elizabeth Sullivan LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-sullivan-36947313/ Email: [email protected] Our Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ ------------ FEATURED PRODUCT Porcelanosa are at the forefront of sustainable manufacturing – clients not only expect this of their suppliers but are increasingly asking to see the receipts. Let's unpack this, did you know that hundreds of preeminent members of The American Institute of Architects –  The AIA – have signed the AIA Materials Pledge? The Pledge is aligned with the Mindful Materials Common Materials Framework – the CMF. This is just one, very impressive example of how the movement to support decision making for building product selection has reached new highs. We can see these explained as 5 pillars of sustainability: (The first) - Human Health: Focusing on avoiding hazardous substances and promoting well-being. (Then) - Social Health & Equity: Addressing human rights and fair labor practices throughout the supply chain. (The third) is Ecosystem Health: Supporting the regeneration of natural resources and habitats. (This is followed by) Climate Health: Reducing and sequestering carbon emissions. (And the fifth pillar) is The Circular Economy: Promoting a zero-waste future through design for resilience, adaptability, and reuse. I mentioned the receipts -How do we track the progress of these principles and values? Without measurement, there's no clear path to improvement or accountability. The Mindful Materials CMF maps a framework of over 650 sustainability factors across those five key areas. A cornerstone of material health transparency is an Environmental Product Declaration EPD report. The best are independently verified for accuracy by third party certification bodies – a company cannot mark their own report cards. EPDs are highly technical documents containing scientific information on the embodied carbon used to manufacture products. I have just read and included here an EPD for a Porcelanosa Tile – there are upwards of 1000 data inputs to quantify its climate impact. Porcelanosa offer the confidence and certainty of knowing that every tile, every slab of XTONE porcelain or KRION solid surface  has a Product Specific EPD – when architects and designers work with these materials they are making a robust decision to meet their sustainable design goals. To learn more about how Porcelanosa help their customers design for resiliency, here is a link to their comprehensive Corporate Social Responsibility Report: https://www.porcelanosa.com/en/corporate-social-responsibility/

"Flexibility became our currency during COVID." –Brea E. Elles on HID2.0 In today's episode, Cheryl sits down virtually with Brea E. Elles, Healthcare Design & Construction Leader. Together they pull back the curtain on what owner-side leadership really looks like when capital planning meets real-world constraints: staffing shortages, reimbursement uncertainty, supply chain, and the relentless need to keep care moving. You'll hear her practical frameworks for designing "for flow," why standardization can reduce cognitive stress for clinicians, and how teams can protect performance when budgets tighten. And if you love the details, Brea goes delightfully nerdy on the behind-the-scenes decisions that make healthcare millwork and furniture succeed (or fail) over time — from seams and water intrusion to integrated sinks, chemical resistance, and specs written for performance. In this episode, we cover: What it actually means to sit at the intersection of finance + operations + design + construction—and why alignment is the job. The teaching mindset that carries into project leadership: if you can't explain why, you don't fully understand the decision. Lean healthcare design in one phrase: design for flow—patient flow, staff flow, equipment flow, information flow. A blunt truth: "Every unnecessary step is a cost"… and inefficient adjacencies compound into burnout. How policy/funding uncertainty (including the "Big Beautiful Bill") shows up as more disciplined revenue assumptions, phasing, and scope restraint. Why patient experience isn't just the lobby: staff experience drives patient experience through workflow and physical demands. The post-COVID shift that won't go away: conversion speed + flexibility as core performance. "Standardization is resilience": how standards reduce cognitive load and keep clinicians focused on care. Rural vs urban: durability, simplified infrastructure, and designing for a community asset that carries generational weight. Plyhouse and the millwork "nerd-out": infection prevention through seam minimization, integral sinks, edge protection, chemical resistance—and specs written for performance. Memorable quotes from Brea "I sit at the intersection of finance, operations, design, and construction." "I align people who think differently." "If you can't explain why a decision matters, you don't fully understand it." "Every unnecessary step is a cost. Every inefficient adjacency becomes burnout over time." "You're designing for the person that's moving through the space, not the person photographing it." "Standardization is resilience." "In urban systems, you manage complexity. In rural systems, you're managing vulnerability." "I saw a disconnect between specification and reality." "Specs should be designed for performance, not just by material type." "When you think about surfaces, you want to minimize your seams." "In order to have patient experience… it's also staff experience." "Design for flow… not just patient flow, but staff flow, equipment flow, information flow." Links & ways to connect Email: [email protected] Plyhouse: https://plyhaus.com Brea on LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/brea-e-elles-58776aa1/ If you liked this episode… Please share it with a nurse, designer, architect, engineer, or administrator who cares about building healthcare environments that feel more human—and more kind. Our Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ ------------ The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org FEATURED PRODUCT Porcelanosa are at the forefront of sustainable manufacturing – clients not only expect this of their suppliers but are increasingly asking to see the receipts.   Let's unpack this, did you know that hundreds of preeminent members of The American Institute of Architects –  The AIA – have signed the AIA Materials Pledge? The Pledge is aligned with the Mindful Materials Common Materials Framework – the CMF. This is just one, very impressive example of how the movement to support decision making for building product selection has reached new highs. We can see these explained as 5 pillars of sustainability: (The first) - Human Health: Focusing on avoiding hazardous substances and promoting well-being. (Then) - Social Health & Equity: Addressing human rights and fair labor practices throughout the supply chain. (The third) is Ecosystem Health: Supporting the regeneration of natural resources and habitats. (This is followed by) Climate Health: Reducing and sequestering carbon emissions. (And the fifth pillar) is The Circular Economy: Promoting a zero-waste future through design for resilience, adaptability, and reuse. I mentioned the receipts -How do we track the progress of these principles and values? Without measurement, there's no clear path to improvement or accountability. The Mindful Materials CMF maps a framework of over 650 sustainability factors across those five key areas. A cornerstone of material health transparency is an Environmental Product Declaration EPD report. The best are independently verified for accuracy by third party certification bodies – a company cannot mark their own report cards. EPDs are highly technical documents containing scientific information on the embodied carbon used to manufacture products. I have just read and included here an EPD for a Porcelanosa Tile – there are upwards of 1000 data inputs to quantify its climate impact. Porcelanosa offer the confidence and certainty of knowing that every tile, every slab of XTONE porcelain or KRION solid surface  has a Product Specific EPD – when architects and designers work with these materials they are making a robust decision to meet their sustainable design goals. To learn more about how Porcelanosa help their customers design for resiliency, here is a link to their comprehensive Corporate Social Responsibility Report: https://www.porcelanosa.com/en/corporate-social-responsibility/.

"The best way to think of it is like a do not use ingredient list, similar to checking a food label — but for buildings." — Susan Suhar on HID2.0   Today on the podcast, Cheryl sits down with Susan Suhar — Design Principal- Interiors and Associate Vice President at HDR Architecture in Los Angeles — to talk about what's changing (and what's timeless) in healthcare design. With 25+ years designing award-winning environments across healthcare, workplace, and life science, Susan brings a rare mix of creative vision and real-world rigor — designing for the whole ecosystem: patients and families, yes, but also the staff doing the caring every single day. Susan helps lead the vision and growth of HDR's LA interiors practice, and she's been deeply involved in major healthcare work including Cedars-Sinai's Marina del Rey Hospital and the UCSF Helen Diller Hospital project in San Francisco (part of a collaborative design team). In this conversation, Susan and Cheryl dig into the shifts shaping healthcare interiors right now — from behavioral health and outpatient growth, to sustainability, staff respite spaces, and why empathy still belongs at the center of every healing environment. WHAT WE COVER Why healthcare interiors serve "one of the broadest ranges of humans in human emotion" — all at once Susan's origin story: how universal design shaped her purpose as a designer What's unique about designing healthcare in California (and specifically Los Angeles) Key shifts shaping healthcare design today: -behavioral health -the evolving patient + staff experience -outpatient growth and the rise of same-day procedures How shorter schedules are changing design + documentation — and where AI fits (supporting, not replacing) Cedars-Sinai Marina del Rey Hospital: designing a community hospital that feels sophisticated, elegant, and not like a hospital The "sea change for healing" concept: waves, journey, light-on-water (and an unforgettable chapel + meditation patio) UCSF Helen Diller Hospital: iconic architecture, fog-response interiors, and major investments in respite, sustainability, and health "Red list free" in plain language — and why it matters in a hospital Why staff spaces are not optional: sleep rooms, respite, and protecting caregiver wellbeing Susan's guiding principle: empathy, and the questions that make design better KEY TAKEAWAYS Design empathy isn't a vibe — it's a practice. It shows up in how we listen, what we prioritize, and what we protect in the program. Staff experience is patient experience. If we don't design for caregiver wellbeing, we quietly erode care quality. Sustainability + health transparency are converging. Materials aren't just about durability and aesthetics anymore — they're about human impact, too. The pace is changing. Faster schedules are pressuring teams to get more efficient without losing the design story or the details. RESOURCED MENTIONED PROJECTS + IMAGES • HDR – Cedars-Sinai Marina del Rey Hospital (project page) https://www.hdrinc.com/portfolio/cedars-sinai-marina-del-rey-hospital • HDR – UCSF Health Helen Diller Hospital (project page) https://www.hdrinc.com/portfolio/ucsf-health-helen-diller-hospital • UCSF Real Estate – Helen Diller Hospital project overview https://realestate.ucsf.edu/projects/ucsf-health-helen-diller-hospital-hdh • Herzog & de Meuron – UCSF Health Helen Diller Hospital (project page) https://www.herzogdemeuron.com/projects/547-ucsf-helen-diller-medical-center-2/ CEDARS-SINAI UPDATES • Cedars-Sinai Newsroom – "New Cedars-Sinai Marina del Rey Hospital Rises" (includes video/update) https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/new-cedars-sinai-marina-del-rey-hospital-rises/ • Cedars-Sinai Newsroom – "Construction Begins for New Cedars-Sinai Marina del Rey Hospital" https://www.cedars-sinai.org/newsroom/construction-begins-for-new-cedars-sinai-marina-del-rey-hospital/ • Cedars-Sinai – "An Upgrade to Medicine in the Marina" (construction progress story) https://www.cedars-sinai.org/stories-and-insights/advancing-our-mission/an-upgrade-to-medicine-in-the-marina HDR SITE / PORTFOLIO SEARCH (as mentioned on the episode) • HDR homepage https://www.hdrinc.com/ • HDR portfolio (search/browse) https://go.hdrinc.com/portfolio SUSTAINABILITY + MATERIAL HEALTH TERMS (RED LIST / EPD / HPD) • ILFI – Red List (Living Building Challenge) https://living-future.org/red-list/ • ILFI – Living Building Challenge overview https://living-future.org/lbc/ • EPD International – International EPD System (what an EPD is / program info) https://www.environdec.com/about-us/international-epd-system • HPD Collaborative (what an HPD is / material health disclosure) https://www.hpd-collaborative.org/ CALIFORNIA HEALTHCARE FACILITY OVERSIGHT (OSHPD / now HCAI) • HCAI – OSHPD became HCAI (official announcement) https://hcai.ca.gov/oshpd-becomes-the-department-of-health-care-access-and-information/ • HCAI – Building Safety (healthcare facilities construction oversight) https://hcai.ca.gov/facilities/building-safety/ CREDENTIALS REFERENCED • IIDA https://iida.org/ • NCIDQ / CIDQ https://www.cidq.org/ • LEED (USGBC) https://www.usgbc.org/leed • WELL (IWBI) https://www.wellcertified.com/ • Fitwel https://www.fitwel.org/ MEMORABLE GUEST QUOTES "We're creating an interior experience that is serving probably one of the broadest ranges of humans in human emotion simultaneously under one roof." "Sometimes… I take the approach as a design therapist." "You have to realize you can't make everyone happy with one solution — but if you can get the majority there, that's a success." "It's not just a nice to do. There is purpose — it's to reduce the anxiety." "If you can design healthcare in California, you can design pretty much anywhere." "The first thing we wanted folks to feel when they walked in was that they were not in a hospital." "The story of the concept was a sea change for healing." "It was inspired by the hull of a boat, a wave itself, and the sunlight that dances and sparkles on top of water." "The value in care to the patient begins with the value in care of the staff." "The guiding principle is putting yourself in the environment… I would say it has to be empathy." "You need to ask questions: how would people like it to be better or different? Where are the friction points?" "Patient interviews, patient surveys, community engagement and input — those are critical to really having a successful healing environment." GUEST Susan Suhar — Design Principal for Interiors + Associate Vice President, HDR Architecture (Los Angeles). CONNECT  LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/susan-salvati-suhar-8811805 Email: [email protected] OUR INDUSTRY PARTNERS The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: -The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers -The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/. ------------ FEATURED PRODUCT Porcelanosa are at the forefront of sustainable manufacturing – clients not only expect this of their suppliers but are increasingly asking to see the receipts. Let's unpack this, did you know that hundreds of preeminent members of The American Institute of Architects –  The AIA – have signed the AIA Materials Pledge? The Pledge is aligned with the Mindful Materials Common Materials Framework – the CMF. This is just one, very impressive example of how the movement to support decision making for building product selection has reached new highs. We can see these explained as 5 pillars of sustainability: (The first) - Human Health: Focusing on avoiding hazardous substances and promoting well-being. (Then) - Social Health & Equity: Addressing human rights and fair labor practices throughout the supply chain. (The third) is Ecosystem Health: Supporting the regeneration of natural resources and habitats. (This is followed by) Climate Health: Reducing and sequestering carbon emissions. (And the fifth pillar) is The Circular Economy: Promoting a zero-waste future through design for resilience, adaptability, and reuse. I mentioned the receipts -How do we track the progress of these principles and values? Without measurement, there's no clear path to improvement or accountability. The Mindful Materials CMF maps a framework of over 650 sustainability factors across those five key areas. A cornerstone of material health transparency is an Environmental Product Declaration EPD report. The best are independently verified for accuracy by third party certification bodies – a company cannot mark their own report cards. EPDs are highly technical documents containing scientific information on the embodied carbon used to manufacture products. I have just read and included here an EPD for a Porcelanosa Tile – there are upwards of 1000 data inputs to quantify its climate impact. Porcelanosa offer the confidence and certainty of knowing that every tile, every slab of XTONE porcelain or KRION solid surface  has a Product Specific EPD – when architects and designers work with these materials they are making a robust decision to meet their sustainable design goals. To learn more about how Porcelanosa help their customers design for resiliency, here is a link to their comprehensive Corporate Social Responsibility Report: https://www.porcelanosa.com/en/corporate-social-responsibility/  

"Art is underutilized as a tool. We should ask: what's the intent behind this piece? Why this piece… and what is this going to do for patients?" —Ghina Itani on HID2.0 What if "beautiful" isn't just a nice-to-have — but a clinical tool? In this episode, Cheryl sits down with Ghina Itani, MBA, CHID, NCIDQ, ASID, EDAC — founder and principal designer of Itani Design Concepts (woman-owned, founded in 2007). Together they unpack how healthcare design decisions ripple outward: influencing everything from patient stress to staff retention, wayfinding, and even workplace culture. You'll hear Ghina's origin story — including the moment she rediscovered her portfolio in a box during her "little ones" season and realized her career was still waiting — and how one early hospital project helped raise expectations for what healthcare spaces could feel like. Then we will dive deep into neuroaesthetics (the brain's response to beauty and environment), why designers must avoid "paint-by-numbers" claims, and how color research can be shared without overpromising. Along the way, Ghina breaks down the famous Baker–Miller Pink story and what it teaches us about context, demographics, and why no single color is a universal prescription. Finally, you'll explore art as care — including the idea of museum prescriptions — and why art is often underutilized as a real tool for healing and connection (not just decoration.) What you'll hear in this episode A powerful origin story about timing, identity, and returning to ambition Why healthcare design is never just aesthetic — it's operational Neuroaesthetics: what it is, why it matters, and what it isn't Color guidelines: where they help… and where they fall apart The "pink prison" story — and what it teaches about context over clichés How designers can present research logically (especially with clinical leaders) Art as a care intervention, not an accessory — including museum prescription programs Why instinct still belongs in evidence-based work Key Takeaways Design has reach. A chair choice can affect not just comfort — but operations, loyalty, and even patient flow. Color isn't a magic button. It's about dose, placement, scale, lighting, and culture — not "blue = calm." Neuroaesthetics is a lens, not a guarantee. Designers can use research to guide decisions without promising outcomes. Inclusion builds trust. Bringing staff and stakeholders into the design process reduces resistance and improves buy-in. Art can be therapeutic. When chosen with intent, it can open conversation, reduce stress, and support care experiences. Memorable Quotes from Ghina Itani "I kind of realized that… my career is waiting. It's right here." "I took chances and I was gutsy." "Even if I didn't have an idea what I'm doing at the time, I always think: I'm going to figure it out." "When an opportunity comes, you have to seize it." "If I think too much about something, I probably won't do it." "Owning a business and being a designer are two different things." "Now we're affecting operation." "We cannot just say, this color gives you this outcome." "Neuroaesthetics is misunderstood… it's not a prescription that you put it and solve the problem." "Art is underutilized as a tool." "We still think of it as pretty and not pretty… but we shouldn't think that way." "We should think: what's the intent behind this piece? Why this piece… and what is this going to do for patients?" "We are the product of our environment." "We cannot make it ever robotic… it will always need the human." "At the end of the day… I would trust what I think of it and what my instincts tell me as well." Resources & Links ITANIA DESIGN CONCEPTS - Itani Design Concepts (website): https://itanidc.com/ - About Ghina Itani: https://itanidc.com/index.php/about/ - Contact page: https://itanidc.com/index.php/contact/ - Portfolio: https://itanidc.com/index.php/portfolio/ - ASID Design Finder listing (Ghina Itani): https://designfinder.asid.org/listing/ghina-itani CREDENTIALS & ORGANIZATIONS MENTIONED - AAHID (American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers): https://aahid.org/ - CHID credential info (AAHID): https://aahid.org/certification/ - EDAC (The Center for Health Design): https://www.healthdesign.org/certification-outreach/edac/ - The Center for Health Design (home): https://www.healthdesign.org/ - CIDQ / NCIDQ Certification: https://www.cidq.org/   TOPICS FROM THE EPISODE - Neuroesthetics (overview): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroesthetics - Baker–Miller pink (overview): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker%E2%80%93Miller_pink - Museum prescriptions (Montreal Museum of Fine Arts): https://www.mbam.qc.ca/en/news/museum-prescriptions/ - Penn Center for Neuroaesthetics: https://neuroaesthetics.med.upenn.edu/ Connect with Ghina Itani Email: [email protected] Phone: 661-549-5886 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ghina-itani/ Our Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ ------------ The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Porcelanosa are at the forefront of sustainable manufacturing – clients not only expect this of their suppliers but are increasingly asking to see the receipts. Let's unpack this, did you know that hundreds of preeminent members of The American Institute of Architects –  The AIA – have signed the AIA Materials Pledge? The Pledge is aligned with the Mindful Materials Common Materials Framework – the CMF. This is just one, very impressive example of how the movement to support decision making for building product selection has reached new highs. We can see these explained as 5 pillars of sustainability: (The first) - Human Health: Focusing on avoiding hazardous substances and promoting well-being. (Then) - Social Health & Equity: Addressing human rights and fair labor practices throughout the supply chain. (The third) is Ecosystem Health: Supporting the regeneration of natural resources and habitats. (This is followed by) Climate Health: Reducing and sequestering carbon emissions. (And the fifth pillar) is The Circular Economy: Promoting a zero-waste future through design for resilience, adaptability, and reuse. I mentioned the receipts -How do we track the progress of these principles and values? Without measurement, there's no clear path to improvement or accountability. The Mindful Materials CMF maps a framework of over 650 sustainability factors across those five key areas.   A cornerstone of material health transparency is an Environmental Product Declaration EPD report. The best are independently verified for accuracy by third party certification bodies – a company cannot mark their own report cards. EPDs are highly technical documents containing scientific information on the embodied carbon used to manufacture products. I have just read and included here an EPD for a Porcelanosa Tile – there are upwards of 1000 data inputs to quantify its climate impact. Porcelanosa offer the confidence and certainty of knowing that every tile, every slab of XTONE porcelain or KRION solid surface  has a Product Specific EPD – when architects and designers work with these materials they are making a robust decision to meet their sustainable design goals. To learn more about how Porcelanosa help their customers design for resiliency, here is a link to their comprehensive Corporate Social Responsibility Report: https://www.porcelanosa.com/en/corporate-social-responsibility/

"As a system scientist and a nurse, my patient is now the hospital."  –Elizabeth Johnson on HID2.0 On today's podcast episode, Cheryl sits down with Dr. Elizabeth Johnson (PhD, MS-CRM, RN)—Assistant Professor at Montana State University's Mark & Robyn Jones College of Nursing, host of Designing Care On-Air, and incoming President of the Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design (NIHD). Elizabeth lives at the intersection of nursing, technology, and design, with a passion for designing healthcare systems—especially for rural, frontier, remote, and tribal communities where distance and infrastructure shape what care can look and feel like. In this conversation, Elizabeth shares the "permission" moment that changed her path into healthcare design, her research using mobile and wearable technology to support clinical trial participant safety, and the powerful insights coming from The Kind Room Project—where children use art to show what a healthcare space looks like when it helps them feel calm, safe, and brave. Along the way, she offers a reframe you won't forget: "My patient is now the hospital." In this episode, we cover The moment that changed everything: being asked (for the first time) what she thought—as a nurse—during a design challenge. The Kind Room Project: using art-based prompts so kids can show what "healthcare that feels kind" looks like. A surprising insight from children's drawings: many prefer softer, muted tones over the stereotypical "primary colors." Why rural hospitals are a "living, breathing apparatus" of community life—and what designers miss if they only visit during business hours. Wearables + clinical trials: how technology can help rural/remote participants stay safe and supported closer to home. "Day two design" (after the ribbon cutting): where latent errors show up—and how to ask great questions, not just good ones. The mindset shift she wants to normalize: making friends with the unknown. Memorable quotes "My patient is now the hospital." "Advocacy through vision and visibility." "Permission is granted. It's a yes—you belong." "Make friends with the unknown." Links & ways to connect Elizabeth Johnson's email: [email protected] Elizabeth LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/elizabeth-johnson-phd-ms-crm-rn-833590167/ Montana State University Nursing directory (Elizabeth): https://www.montana.edu/nursing/directory/bozeman/2344665/elizabeth-johnson MSU CAIRHE "Johnson Project" page: https://www.montana.edu/cairhe/other-investigators/johnson/ NIHD (Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design): https://nursingihd.com/ Elizabeth's NIHD bio: https://nursingihd.com/elizabeth-johnson-bio Join NIHD: https://nursingihd.com/join Designing Care On-Air (Apple Podcasts): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/designing-care-on-air/id1696746547 Kind Room / design tool site (as mentioned): https://designkind.art If you liked this episode… Share it with a nurse, designer, architect, engineer, or administrator who cares about building healthcare environments that feel more human—and more kind. Our Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ ------------ The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Porcelanosa are at the forefront of sustainable manufacturing – clients not only expect this of their suppliers but are increasingly asking to see the receipts. Let's unpack this, did you know that hundreds of preeminent members of The American Institute of Architects –  The AIA – have signed the AIA Materials Pledge? The Pledge is aligned with the Mindful Materials Common Materials Framework – the CMF. This is just one, very impressive example of how the movement to support decision making for building product selection has reached new highs. We can see these explained as 5 pillars of sustainability: (The first) - Human Health: Focusing on avoiding hazardous substances and promoting well-being. (Then) - Social Health & Equity: Addressing human rights and fair labor practices throughout the supply chain. (The third) is Ecosystem Health: Supporting the regeneration of natural resources and habitats. (This is followed by) Climate Health: Reducing and sequestering carbon emissions. (And the fifth pillar) is The Circular Economy: Promoting a zero-waste future through design for resilience, adaptability, and reuse. I mentioned the receipts -How do we track the progress of these principles and values? Without measurement, there's no clear path to improvement or accountability. The Mindful Materials CMF maps a framework of over 650 sustainability factors across those five key areas. A cornerstone of material health transparency is an Environmental Product Declaration EPD report. The best are independently verified for accuracy by third party certification bodies – a company cannot mark their own report cards. EPDs are highly technical documents containing scientific information on the embodied carbon used to manufacture products. I have just read and included here an EPD for a Porcelanosa Tile – there are upwards of 1000 data inputs to quantify its climate impact. Porcelanosa offer the confidence and certainty of knowing that every tile, every slab of XTONE porcelain or KRION solid surface  has a Product Specific EPD – when architects and designers work with these materials they are making a robust decision to meet their sustainable design goals. To learn more about how Porcelanosa help their customers design for resiliency, here is a link to their comprehensive Corporate Social Responsibility Report: https://www.porcelanosa.com/en/corporate-social-responsibility/

"If I can make a terrifying experience a little calmer and a nurse's 12-hour shift less exhausting—that's my why." –Andrea Kingsbury on HID2.0. Today on the pod, Cheryl sits down—virtually—with Andrea Kingsbury, RID, CHID, LEED AP ID+C, Creative Director of Interior Design at e4h | Environments for Health Architecture.With 18+ years in healthcare interiors, Andrea shares how she elevates design across a multi-office practice. She co-creates with clinicians so operations don't get value-engineered out. And on the Roper St. Francis Replacement Hospital, e4h is partnered with SOM (Skidmore, Owings & Merrill)—SOM leads the exterior and first-impression spaces while e4h leads the clinical environments. Together, they're translating a modern Low Country sense of place into calming, resilient settings from curb to bedside. What We Cover Origin story & staying power: finding purpose where "every decision has a human consequence" Creative Director lens: mentorship, cross-pollination, and guiding principles that anchor projects over time Digital collaboration: whiteboards as living libraries (and bringing sketching energy back across offices) Clinician-led, patient-centered: turning design ideas into performance metrics (steps saved, time gained, errors reduced) so they survive VE Roper St. Francis with SOM: a curb-to-bedside thread; visioning early, system finish master plan, and "modern Low Country" as a unifying concept Arrival sequence by landscape: Tidelands → Dunes → Marshes (lobby, promenade, café) for orientation, calm, and nourishment Community over cliché: avoiding "postcard Charleston," engaging North Charleston's distinct neighborhoods and local artists Standardization vs. soul: prefabricated pods and modular systems without losing local materiality and identity Flexibility & resilience: designing for future unknowns (pandemics, hurricanes, seismic), right-sizing and pre-planning utilities Pathways for emerging designers: timing CHID/EDAC, why to test early, and the portfolio experiences that matter now Key Takeaways Guide, don't dictate. A Creative Director cultivates mindsets and methods more than a single "house style." Metrics protect design. When choices map to operational outcomes (steps/time/errors), they're harder to cut. Place > postcard. Authenticity comes from community engagement, not clichés. Prefab ≠ generic. Standardization can speed delivery while finishes and details keep local soul. Design for tomorrow. Flexibility and resilience are now baseline program requirements. Invest early in credentials. CHID/EDAC/LEED are great signalers—easier to earn closer to school—and experience remains the difference-makers Memorable Quotes from Andrea Kingsbury "We're designing the backdrop of some of our most vulnerable moments—birth, death, recovery, crisis. Every decision has a human consequence." "If I can make a terrifying experience a little calmer and a nurse's 12-hour shift less exhausting—that's my why." "Our role isn't to impose a singular style; it's to cultivate a mindset that leads to successful projects." "Guiding principles set early become the anchor when projects evolve—they hold the vision together." "When design choices map to time saved, steps reduced, and errors prevented, it's almost impossible to value-engineer them out." "We used the Low Country landscape—tidelands → dunes → marshes—to cue orientation, calm, and nourishment." "Prefab doesn't have to look generic. We keep the speed and quality without losing local soul." "The next phase is flexibility and resilience—designing for tomorrow when we can't predict it." Resources & Links e4h | Environments for Health Architecture — Andrea's firm (Charlotte studio; healthcare-focused). https://www.e4harchitecture.com/ Roper St. Francis Healthcare — Replacement Hospital updates, community newsletters, and media (including VR/renderings when available). https://www.rsfh.com/ S.O.M. — Skidmore, Owings & Merrill — Design partner on exterior and first-impression spaces. https://www.som.com/ CHID Certification (AAHID) — Certified Healthcare Interior Designer credential referenced in the episode. https://www.aahid.org/certification/ EDAC (The Center for Health Design) — Evidence-Based Design Accreditation & Certification. https://www.healthdesign.org/certification-outreach/edac/ Biophilic Design (Primer) — Background on nature-connected strategies that inform "tidelands → dunes → marshes" concepts. https://www.healthdesign.org/insights-solutions/biophilic-design Connect with Andrea Kingsbury Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreahkingsbury/ Our Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ ------------ The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Porcelanosa are at the forefront of sustainable manufacturing – clients not only expect this of their suppliers but are increasingly asking to see the receipts. Let's unpack this, did you know that hundreds of preeminent members of The American Institute of Architects –  The AIA – have signed the AIA Materials Pledge? The Pledge is aligned with the Mindful Materials Common Materials Framework – the CMF. This is just one, very impressive example of how the movement to support decision making for building product selection has reached new highs. We can see these explained as 5 pillars of sustainability: (The first) - Human Health: Focusing on avoiding hazardous substances and promoting well-being. (Then) - Social Health & Equity: Addressing human rights and fair labor practices throughout the supply chain. (The third) is Ecosystem Health: Supporting the regeneration of natural resources and habitats. (This is followed by) Climate Health: Reducing and sequestering carbon emissions. (And the fifth pillar) is The Circular Economy: Promoting a zero-waste future through design for resilience, adaptability, and reuse. I mentioned the receipts -How do we track the progress of these principles and values? Without measurement, there's no clear path to improvement or accountability. The Mindful Materials CMF maps a framework of over 650 sustainability factors across those five key areas. A cornerstone of material health transparency is an Environmental Product Declaration EPD report. The best are independently verified for accuracy by third party certification bodies – a company cannot mark their own report cards. EPDs are highly technical documents containing scientific information on the embodied carbon used to manufacture products. I have just read and included here an EPD for a Porcelanosa Tile – there are upwards of 1000 data inputs to quantify its climate impact. Porcelanosa offer the confidence and certainty of knowing that every tile, every slab of XTONE porcelain or KRION solid surface  has a Product Specific EPD – when architects and designers work with these materials they are making a robust decision to meet their sustainable design goals. To learn more about how Porcelanosa help their customers design for resiliency, here is a link to their comprehensive Corporate Social Responsibility Report: https://www.porcelanosa.com/en/corporate-social-responsibility/.

"When one of us rises, all of us rise." –Kristin Leija on the Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 podcast Today on the pod, Cheryl sits down—virtually—with Kristin Leija, RID, CIDQ, CHID, EDAC, LEED Green Associate, WELL AP — Registered Interior Designer & Certified Healthcare Interior Designer at Perkins&Will in San Antonio, TX. Kristin brings big-firm reach with a startup spirit—supporting teams across Texas while anchoring in San Antonio's historic Pearl District. As a post-COVID entrant to healthcare design, she pairs digital fluency with CHID/EDAC rigor and a community-first mindset.  We talk building credibility without 20 years on the clock, designing for a multicultural city, caregiver realities (including her own), and the rising focus on behavioral health and "living design" sustainability. What We Cover Post-COVID vantage point: translating six-foot spacing, touch reduction, and one-way flows into healthcare planning Earning trust early: leading with research, active listening, and co-authoring solutions with clients Community + culture → design: how San Antonio's "smallest big city" vibe shows up in wayfinding, lobbies, and public spaces Caregiver lens: where do you take sensitive calls, decompress, or bring a child while visiting? Behavioral health everywhere: why BH thinking is showing up across non-BH projects Futurism in practice: scanning signals, staying curious, and shaping what's next Living design: Perkins&Will's holistic take on health, wellness, sustainability, and poetics Key Takeaways Curiosity beats tenure. Showing up with relevant research and good questions builds credibility fast. Design the whole journey. Spaces that respect caregivers' needs (privacy, quiet, nooks) change the experience. Culture isn't décor. Authentic place-based cues support wayfinding, belonging, and ease. Behavioral health is universal. Small, thoughtful interventions can lower stress across all settings. Be a futurist. Track signals, share knowledge, and help clients prepare—not just react. Connect with Kristin Leija Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristin-leija/ Resources & Shout-outs Perkins&Will — San Antonio Studio — Kristin's team; community-rooted healthcare design. https://perkinswill.com/studio/san-antonio/ Perkins&Will Pearl District (San Antonio) — Historic brewery reimagined as a cultural hub where Kristin's studio is based. https://atpearl.com/ Pearl Culinary Institute of America — San Antonio (at Pearl) — Daily energy and inspiration right outside the studio. https://www.ciachef.edu/cia-texas/ Culinary Institute of America Fiesta San Antonio — The city's "party with a purpose," celebrating culture and community each April. https://fiestasanantonio.org/ Fiesta San Antonio UTSA — The University of Texas at San Antonio — Local research partner ecosystem Kristin references. https://www.utsa.edu/ UT San Antonio Wilford Hall Medical Center — Former USAF medical hub meaningful in Kristin's family story. https://www.army.mil/article/273984/wilford_hall_preserving_a_legacy_brick_by_brick Army Design frameworks & focus areas Perkins&Will — Living Design — Holistic health, sustainability, and poetics in practice. https://perkinswill.com/living-design/ Perkins&Will Behavioral Health Design — Kristin's recent work; principles that translate across care settings. (Overview article you can cite as needed.) https://healthcaredesignmagazine.com/news/perkinswill-opens-new-design-studio-in-san-antonio/64570/ HCD Magazine Foresight / Futurism in Design — Signal-scanning mindset to prepare clients for what's next. (Visitor guide to Pearl as a culture/innovation anchor.) https://www.visitsanantonio.com/plan-your-trip/neighborhood-guide/pearl-district/ Visit San Antonio Credentials & organizations CHID — Certified Healthcare Interior Designer (AAHID) https://aahid.org/certification/ AAHID EDAC — The Center for Health Design https://www.healthdesign.org/certification-outreach/edac/ Health Design LEED Green Associate — USGBC https://www.usgbc.org/credentials/leed-green-associate U.S. Green Building Council WELL AP — IWBI https://www.wellcertified.com/well-ap wellcertified.com NCIDQ / CIDQ https://www.cidq.org/ CIDQ Our Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ ------------ The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Porcelanosa are at the forefront of sustainable manufacturing – clients not only expect this of their suppliers but are increasingly asking to see the receipts. Let's unpack this, did you know that hundreds of preeminent members of The American Institute of Architects –  The AIA – have signed the AIA Materials Pledge? The Pledge is aligned with the Mindful Materials Common Materials Framework – the CMF. This is just one, very impressive example of how the movement to support decision making for building product selection has reached new highs. We can see these explained as 5 pillars of sustainability: (The first) - Human Health: Focusing on avoiding hazardous substances and promoting well-being. (Then) - Social Health & Equity: Addressing human rights and fair labor practices throughout the supply chain. (The third) is Ecosystem Health: Supporting the regeneration of natural resources and habitats. (This is followed by) Climate Health: Reducing and sequestering carbon emissions. (And the fifth pillar) is The Circular Economy: Promoting a zero-waste future through design for resilience, adaptability, and reuse. I mentioned the receipts -How do we track the progress of these principles and values? Without measurement, there's no clear path to improvement or accountability. The Mindful Materials CMF maps a framework of over 650 sustainability factors across those five key areas. A cornerstone of material health transparency is an Environmental Product Declaration EPD report. The best are independently verified for accuracy by third party certification bodies – a company cannot mark their own report cards. EPDs are highly technical documents containing scientific information on the embodied carbon used to manufacture products. I have just read and included here an EPD for a Porcelanosa Tile – there are upwards of 1000 data inputs to quantify its climate impact. Porcelanosa offer the confidence and certainty of knowing that every tile, every slab of XTONE porcelain or KRION solid surface  has a Product Specific EPD – when architects and designers work with these materials they are making a robust decision to meet their sustainable design goals. To learn more about how Porcelanosa help their customers design for resiliency, here is a link to their comprehensive Corporate Social Responsibility Report: https://www.porcelanosa.com/en/corporate-social-responsibility/.  

"Another sign is not the answer—it dilutes the message." - Corinn Soro Today on the pod, Cheryl sits down—virtually—with Senior Planner and Interior Designer Corinn Soro of Roswell Park Comprehensive Cancer Center in Buffalo, NY for a deep dive into wayfinding that actually works: why "visual pollution" erodes attention, how de-crapification clarifies intent, and where evidence-based choices can transform the patient journey from disorientation to ease.  Expect real examples—subway-style maps that set expectations at a glance, pictograms that land when words won't, and donor walls designed to evolve rather than date out—plus the small, cumulative tweaks that lower stress for visitors and staff alike.  Today's conversation is about design as reassurance, translating research into decisions that cut through noise and hand back control the moment someone walks through the door. What We Cover A 17-year-old's spark: geriatric care, neuroplasticity, and the built environment London roots: learning research methods alongside OTs and PTs; universal design for all bodies Evidence-Based Design in action: NICU decisions (sound, circadian light, infection control) backed by research "Visual pollution" vs. visual cues: the case for ruthless editing ("de-crapification") before adding signs Wayfinding that works under stress: step-by-step instructions, few decision points, and reassurance cues Designing for low literacy: a color-and-letter "subway" system, line-of-travel markers, and proximity intuition Pictograms that actually communicate: testing, swapping out abstractions, and kid-friendly icons Measuring ROI: missed appointments, staff disruptions, and the real cost of poor wayfinding In-house rhythm at a research hospital: tight feedback loops, quick iterations, and process fixes Donor walls that age well: digital storytelling, magnetic plaques, and durable substrates Advocacy and pipeline: AMFP Upstate NY, craft labor realities, and manufacturing shifts ahead Big wish list: self-cleaning floors (for hospitals…and home) Why post-occupancy evaluations could prevent future design disasters (and why they rarely happen) Key Takeaways Edit before you add. Wayfinding succeeds when clutter is removed and destinations are made legible through architecture, lighting, and contrast—not just more signs. Design for the stressed brain. Fewer decision points + stepwise reassurance beat complex directions every time. Evidence accelerates approvals. EBD turns subjective taste debates into science-backed decisions leadership can green-light. Symbols > sentences. Tested pictograms improve comprehension across languages, ages, and literacy levels. Iterate in the wild. Being embedded with clinicians and patients surfaces quick wins you'll never catch from afar. Memorable Quotes from Corinn Soro "Another sign isn't the answer—it dilutes the message." "Wayfinding is about giving choice back to patients when so much else is out of their control." "If a space is 'too quiet' for the engineer, it's probably just right for the neonates." "Healthcare design is a team sport." Resources & Links Roswell Park Comprehensive Cancer Center — https://www.roswellpark.org/ AMFP Upstate New York Chapter — https://amfp.org/upstate-new-york Fiona Finer, the Interior Designer (ages 3–8) — https://www.amazon.com/Fiona-Finer-Interior-Designer-Corinn/dp/1720664889 EDAC Certification (Evidence-Based Design) — https://www.healthdesign.org/certification-outreach/edac Hablamos Juntos pictograms — https://www.theicod.org/resources/news-archive/segd-and-hablamos-juntos-introduce-new-universal-symbols-in-health-care Sisters of Charity Hospital (Buffalo, NY) — NICU project mentioned — https://www.chsbuffalo.org/sisters-of-charity-hospital/ Past HID2.0 episode featuring Tama Duffy Day — Episode 20 https://healthcareidpodcast.libsyn.com/2019/09 Connect with Corinn Soro Email: [email protected] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/corinn-soro-14859ab/ Our Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ ------------ The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Porcelanosa are at the forefront of sustainable manufacturing – clients not only expect this of their suppliers but are increasingly asking to see the receipts. Let's unpack this, did you know that hundreds of preeminent members of The American Institute of Architects –  The AIA – have signed the AIA Materials Pledge? The Pledge is aligned with the Mindful Materials Common Materials Framework – the CMF. This is just one, very impressive example of how the movement to support decision making for building product selection has reached new highs. We can see these explained as 5 pillars of sustainability: (The first) - Human Health: Focusing on avoiding hazardous substances and promoting well-being. (Then) - Social Health & Equity: Addressing human rights and fair labor practices throughout the supply chain. (The third) is Ecosystem Health: Supporting the regeneration of natural resources and habitats. (This is followed by) Climate Health: Reducing and sequestering carbon emissions. (And the fifth pillar) is The Circular Economy: Promoting a zero-waste future through design for resilience, adaptability, and reuse. I mentioned the receipts -How do we track the progress of these principles and values? Without measurement, there's no clear path to improvement or accountability. The Mindful Materials CMF maps a framework of over 650 sustainability factors across those five key areas. A cornerstone of material health transparency is an Environmental Product Declaration EPD report. The best are independently verified for accuracy by third party certification bodies – a company cannot mark their own report cards. EPDs are highly technical documents containing scientific information on the embodied carbon used to manufacture products. I have just read and included here an EPD for a Porcelanosa Tile – there are upwards of 1000 data inputs to quantify its climate impact. Porcelanosa offer the confidence and certainty of knowing that every tile, every slab of XTONE porcelain or KRION solid surface  has a Product Specific EPD – when architects and designers work with these materials they are making a robust decision to meet their sustainable design goals. To learn more about how Porcelanosa help their customers design for resiliency, here is a link to their comprehensive Corporate Social Responsibility Report: https://www.porcelanosa.com/en/corporate-social-responsibility/

"I wanted to be a dolphin trainer... But here I am." - Kelly Guzman  What happens when emergency nurses become healthcare design consultants? In this fascinating episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0, host Cheryl Janis sits down with two remarkable guests who made the leap from bedside care to transforming how healthcare spaces are designed. Meet Kelly Guzman, who traded her childhood dreams of training dolphins for a nursing career that began during the 1987 nursing shortage. After years managing emergency departments and clinical services at UCLA Health, Kelly discovered her true calling when tasked with moving entire hospitals into new buildings. Now CEO of Yellow Brick Consulting, she orchestrates complex healthcare facility transitions with military precision - including dress rehearsals with up to 900 staff members testing new spaces before they open. Meet Kevin Meek, whose journey started at age 13 as a hospital candy striper, inspired by the TV show Emergency 51. His design awakening came in 2014 when he walked through a micro hospital under construction and immediately knew it would be an operational nightmare. One complaint to his boss led to a game-changing meeting with architects in Texas, launching his transition from trauma nurse to design consultant. Both Kelly and Kevin have served on the board of the Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design (NIHD), our podcast industry partners. They found their tribe in this organization that connects clinical "unicorns" who felt alone in the design space. The NIHD's mission is to engage and integrate clinical expertise into healthcare facility planning through leadership, education, and advocacy - ensuring that the voices of those who actually work in these spaces are heard in the design process. Together, they've pioneered the concept of "clinically informed design" - and the stories they share will make you question everything you thought you knew about healthcare facility planning. From door handles placed in impossible locations to the eternal struggle of finding space for critical patient information at the bedside, this episode reveals the often hilarious (and sometimes heartbreaking) disconnect between beautiful design and functional reality. In this eye-opening conversation, you'll discover: How two emergency nurses found their calling as healthcare design "unicorns" and why the industry desperately needs more clinical voices The game-changing difference between evidence-based design and clinically informed design (hint: one involves research, the other involves asking the right questions) Why a door paddle eight feet from the door could be a matter of life and death - and other design details that seem obvious once you know them The fascinating world of hospital transition planning, where entire facilities rehearse their opening like a Broadway production How the Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design is connecting clinical expertise with architectural brilliance Real-world horror stories of beautiful spaces that staff absolutely hate to work in Practical strategies for nurses thrust into design meetings and architects wanting to truly engage clinical teams Why post-occupancy evaluations could prevent future design disasters (and why they rarely happen) Discover why nurses are the ultimate design unicorns, learn about the organization connecting clinical voices to design teams nationwide, and find out what happens when a nurse tells a prospective client that they "hate" their gorgeous new facility - with the architect standing right there. Learn more about Kevin Meek: https://www.haskell.com/ Learn more about Kelly Guzman: https://consultyellowbrick.com/ Learn more about The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design: https://nursingihd.com/. Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this. When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

"Certification enhances your credibility and your expertise in healthcare interior design. It distinguishes you from non-certified healthcare interior designers that are practicing in the healthcare design space and illustrates the amount of knowledge to deliver these types of environments." —Megan McNally on The Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 podcast Step into the world of healthcare design certification, where interior designers develop specialized expertise to create healing environments that protect patients and improve outcomes. In this informative episode, host Cheryl Janis sits down with Stephanie Fallon, President-Elect, and Megan McNally, President of the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers (AAHID), who share insights about the path to becoming a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer (CHID). From understanding the rigorous examination process to exploring the unique challenges of healthcare environments, Stephanie and Megan reveal why specialized certification has become increasingly critical in an industry where design directly impacts patient safety, infection control, and healing. Their combined 30+ years of experience creating award-winning healthcare spaces illuminates why certified designers are essential members of any healthcare project team. Discover how AAHID's certification process is elevating the standard of healthcare design nationwide and creating a community of professionals dedicated to advancing evidence-based design practices. This conversation will give you a comprehensive understanding of how specialized certification is transforming healthcare environments and improving outcomes for patients and staff alike. Learn more about the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/ Stephanie Fallon serves as Director of Interiors and Associate Partner at PhiloWilke Partnership, with 15 years specializing in Healthcare and Health Science Interiors. Megan McNally is the Director of Interior Design at RYAN Companies, where she leads their National Healthcare Interior Design Practice. She was recently recognized as Healthcare Design's HCD10 in the Interior Design category. In this enlightening conversation, Cheryl, Stephanie, and Megan explore: The mission and 20-year history of the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers (AAHID) and its role in certifying healthcare design professionals The comprehensive CHID examination process that tests designers' knowledge of critical healthcare environments, from acute care to ambulatory and residential settings The two distinct pathways to CHID certification, accommodating both experienced designers and those newer to the healthcare specialty How certified designers understand and address unique healthcare challenges related to infection control, patient safety, staff functionality, and code compliance The professional benefits of certification, including leadership opportunities, networking with passionate CHIDs, and volunteer positions within committees The important impact CHIDs have on planning healthcare environments that promote healing through access to natural light, cleanable materials, and thoughtful design Emerging trends in healthcare design, including design for neurodiversity, increased focus on staff retention through supportive amenities, and community integration How sustainability, wellness, and technology integration are shaping the future of healthcare design, from robot pathways to AI integration A call for healthcare systems to require certified healthcare interior designers on project teams to ensure specialized expertise The personal stories of meaningful projects, including a dementia-friendly heart center designed with acoustic controls, intuitive wayfinding, and supportive aids Whether you're a healthcare professional, interior designer considering healthcare specialization, or someone interested in how design impacts healing environments, this episode offers valuable insights into the specialized world of healthcare interior design certification. Join us for an informative discussion about how certified designers are transforming healthcare spaces and improving outcomes through thoughtful, evidence-based design. Listen to the episode now! Shout Outs Past Episode Mentions: [30:43] "For anyone who's listening out there, Episode 64 was" (about the Durable Codings Fabric Task Force) [36:53] "Episode 65, " (featuring Dr. Katie Padito about neurodiversity) Individual Shoutouts: [29:10] "on the committee as well and represented our group, Jane Rohde." https://www.jsrassociates.net/jane Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this. When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

"When somebody shows you who they truly are, believe them the first time. From the very beginning, we took Emory at their word when they said they wanted to design and build a cancer center never before seen or imagined." —Anthony Treu on The Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 podcast Step into a world where healthcare spaces nurture healing, empower caregivers, and transform the patient experience. In this inspiring episode, host Cheryl Janis sits down with visionary healthcare architect Anthony Treu, AIA, ACHA, LEED AP, Principal and Healthcare Practice Leader at Skidmore Owings and Merrill (SOM), who is revolutionizing how we think about healthcare design. From a fourth-grader sketching houses to the one of the architects behind award-winning cancer centers at SOM, Anthony shares the remarkable journey of creating spaces that combine cutting-edge innovation with profound human comfort. He and his teams' work on the groundbreaking Emory Winship Cancer Center in Atlanta, Georgia shows us what's possible when we dare to reimagine healthcare delivery from the ground up. Discover how Anthony and his team are creating healthcare environments that feel less like institutions and more like sanctuaries of healing, where high-tech innovation meets human-centered design. This conversation will leave you believing in the power of architecture to transform the healthcare experience. Learn more about Anthony Treu and SOM's pioneering healthcare architecture projects at: https://www.som.com/. SOM partnered with May Architecture, https://www.mayarchitecture.com/ on the Emory Winship Cancer Center project. Anthony credits this collaboration as a cornerstone of the project's success, combining SOM's innovative approach with May Architecture's specialized clinical design expertise. In this enlightening conversation, Cheryl and Anthony explore: The revolutionary spirit behind Emory Winship Cancer Center, where traditional cancer care was completely reimagined to put patients first How rethinking the basic layout of cancer care reduced treatment planning from weeks to a single day The stunning results of patient-centered design: registration times cut in half, satisfaction scores soaring into the 90th percentile, and staff retention improving by 10% The beautiful balance of creating spaces that feel both technologically advanced and warmly inviting How questioning core assumptions – like "Do we really need waiting rooms?" – can lead to breakthrough innovations The future of healthcare spaces, where rooms might quietly monitor vital signs without patients even knowing  Anthony's philosophy of approaching each project with fresh eyes, free from the weight of convention Stories from some of SOM's global projects in Egypt and Kazakhstan that reveal universal truths about human-centered healthcare design The exciting frontier of healthcare design, where ambient technology and passive monitoring could transform the patient experience How collaboration and trust between architects, engineers, and visionary clients can turn seemingly impossible dreams into reality The power of asking better questions rather than just designing better solutions Whether you're a healthcare professional, designer, architect, or someone who cares about improving the healthcare experience, this conversation will inspire you to think differently about what's possible in healthcare design. Join us for a masterclass in how thoughtful design can transform not just buildings, but the entire experience of giving and receiving care. Listen to the episode now! Shout Outs May Architecture (00:24:11) Described as cornerstone partner for Emory project CBR Healthcare (00:25:19) Program manager for Emory project Batson Cook (00:25:24) Contractor for Emory project Newcombe and Boyd (00:25:24) Engineering partners Featured Projects: Emory Winship Cancer Center - Atlanta, Georgia  (00:00:48) Egypt's National Cancer Institute (00:44:23) Almaty's International Medical Center (00:44:27) Roper St. Francis Healthcare - Charleston, South Carolina (00:48:55) Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this. When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none. For more information, visit https://www.porcelanosa.com/us/healthcare.    

"There's a great saying among the neurodivergent community. If you've met one person with autism, you've met one person with autism." -Kati Peditto on The Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 Meet Dr. Kati Peditto, an environmental psychologist and Senior Design Researcher at DLR Group who's transforming how we think about neurodivergent design. Featured in The Washington Post, The Atlantic, and The BBC, Kati brings both professional expertise and personal experience as someone with AuDHD to this vital conversation about creating truly inclusive spaces. Join host Cheryl Janis for an illuminating discussion that will challenge everything you thought you knew about healthcare design. Get ready to discover why designing for neurodivergence goes far beyond quiet rooms and sensory spaces, the surprising ways our environments affect behavior - from ICU alarms to office kitchen smells, and how a 49-day cross-country run shaped her revolutionary approach to healthcare spaces.  Whether you're a designer, healthcare professional, or someone passionate about creating more inclusive spaces, this conversation will open your eyes to the profound impact of thoughtful, evidence-based design. Join us for an unforgettable journey into what's new in healthcare design with Dr. Kati Peditto! Want to Learn More? Learn more about Dr. Kati Peditto and DLR by visiting this link: https://www.dlrgroup.com/ Connect with Kati: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katipeditto/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/pedittophd/ Ready to have your perspective transformed?  In this episode, Cheryl and Kati explore: The eye-opening truth about neurodivergence: Why it's so much more than today's "hot topic" The surprising differences between male and female presentations How neurodivergent minds process environments differently What designers often miss when creating "inclusive" spaces Game-changing design insights: The unexpected reason office kitchen locations matter more than acoustics Why traditional "quiet rooms" aren't enough How hospital alarm systems are failing our healthcare workers The missing pieces in current universal design approaches Personal revelations and powerful experiences: Kati's fascinating journey to discovering her own neurodivergence The life-changing 49-day cross-country run that shaped her research What it's really like navigating the design world as a neurodivergent professional Why some environments exhaust neurodivergent individuals The future of inclusive design: Moving beyond one-size-fits-all solutions Revolutionary approaches to stakeholder engagement Why evidence-based design is crucial for neurodivergent spaces How to create truly adaptable environments Shout Outs 4:03 -  Cornell University - PhD in human behavior and design  4:08 -  The Washington Post, The Atlantic, BBC  4:12  - Center for Health Design - 2018 new investigator award  4:26  - St. Mary's College of Maryland - 2017 scholarship award  21:39 - Johns Hopkins Hospital - ICU research experience  30:20 -  Ulman Cancer Fund (now Ulman Foundation) - cross-country fundraiser 47.42 - DLR Group - current role  Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this. When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.  

"I decided I should go back to school for interior design because someone should be designing these spaces who knew what it was like to work in them. And I decided it would be me." —Teri Lura-Bennett Step into the world of evidence-based healthcare design with host Cheryl Janis and an all-star lineup of experts: Donna Deckard, Director of the EDAC program at the Center for Health Design; Barbara Dellinger, a veteran healthcare interior designer with over 40 years of experience and Teri Lura-Bennett, a unique blend of registered nurse and acclaimed healthcare interior designer. Our guests dive deep into the often-overlooked yet critical world of hospital flooring and surfaces, sharing eye-opening stories of trials, failures, and triumphs. Learn how a single flooring decision can impact patient safety, staff efficiency, and maintenance costs for years to come.  Discover the power of evidence-based design as our experts reveal how meticulous research and real-world testing are revolutionizing healthcare environments. From navigating the complexities of material selection to accessing reliable, up-to-date information, this episode equips you with the knowledge to make informed decisions that go beyond aesthetics.  Whether you're a seasoned healthcare designer or new to the field, you'll gain invaluable insights to elevate your next project and create spaces that are not just beautiful, but safer and more effective. Learn more about The Swiss Cheese Model that Teri mentions here: https://thedecisionlab.com/reference-guide/management/swiss-cheese-model Learn more about the EBD process of Finding and Conducting Research that Donna shares by viewing and downloading this .PDF:  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QhBFnumvnfe16CwkOhkpWqM6KYikZ5MU/view?usp=sharing Learn more about The Center for Health Design and the EDAC Certification by visiting: https://www.healthdesign.org/. LinkedIn Contact Info for Guests: Barbara Delinger: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-dellinger-9697b613/ Teri Lura Bennett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/teri-bennett-61306925/ Donna Deckard: https://www.linkedin.com/in/donna-deckard-6b38318/ In today's episode, Cheryl and her guests discuss the following: Barbara shares a riveting story about helping to save the healing gardens in a billion-dollar military hospital project. Picture a tense value engineering meeting where millions were at stake, and an architect's impassioned defense of evidence-based design saved the day! Thank you Barbara! Journey through time with Donna as she traces the roots of evidence-based design back to the 1970s. Learn how a groundbreaking study on hospital window views revolutionized the field and sparked a design revolution. Teri reveals her unique path from ICU nurse to interior designer. Her story of redesigning a coronary care unit while still a nurse manager will inspire anyone looking to make a career pivot. Uncover the mysteries of the "Swiss Cheese Model" as Teri explains how a series of small oversights can lead to major design failures - and how to prevent them. Get the inside scoop on a real-world flooring study at Johns Hopkins, where 12 different materials battled it out in a high-traffic corridor. The results might surprise you! Barbara and Teri dish on the drama of failing fabrics in healthcare settings. Their tale of the "Durable Coated Fabrics Task Group" reads like a design detective story, complete with millions of dollars at stake and a race against time to find a solution. Laugh (and cringe) at Teri's anecdotes about well-meaning cleaning staff inadvertently causing more problems - and learn valuable lessons about the importance of whole-team education in healthcare design. Discover the unexpected link between evidence-based medicine and design as Donna explains how three pioneering doctors in the 70's laid the groundwork for today's healthcare environments. Get fired up about the power of research as the guests share how they've used evidence to defend design choices, influence product development, and create safer, more effective healing spaces. Walk away with a treasure trove of resources, including the Center for Health Design's knowledge repository (with over 6,000 articles!) and tips for earning your EDAC certification. Shout Outs: - Center for Health Design - American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers   - Facility Guidelines Institute (FGI) Industry Partners: The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this…When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.  

"She's actually going to be 100 years old. My father's parents are both Holocaust survivors. She survived. And it was a journey to survive, but her outlook on life has always been one of hope. And that has resonated with me throughout my life." —Cheryl Lauren Spigler on The Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 podcast Today, we're diving into the world of compassionate design with Cheryl Lauren Spigler, a visionary Senior Design Leader at NELSON Worldwide. Get ready for an inspiring journey as host Cheryl Janis and her special guest, Cheryl Lauren Spigler, explore the art of creating healing spaces that touch the heart and soul. Cheryl Lauren Spigler shares the power of empathy in healthcare design, innovative approaches to creating spaces that resonate with the human experience, and bridging hospitality and healthcare design principles for transformative environments. This is a deeply meaningful conversation you won't want to miss on the life altering power of thoughtful healthcare design! Learn more about Cheryl Lauren Spigler and NELSON Worldwide by visiting: https://www.nelsonworldwide.com/. Find Cheryl on LinkedIn here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cheryl-lauren-spigler-rid-ncidq-iida-27391310/ In Cheryl's conversation with Cheryl Lauren Spigler, they discuss: Cheryl Lauren Spigler's background as a healthcare and hospitality interior designer with over 19 years of experience. Her approach to creating spaces that resonate with the human experience and evoke emotion The importance of asking clients how they want a space to feel and using exercises to extract design concepts. Examples of projects where Cheryl achieved a higher level of design, including a hospitality project balancing luxury and nature, and a healthcare project designed to welcome diverse populations. How Cheryl's experiences in hospitality design have influenced her approach to healthcare environments. The use of empathy in the design process, especially for healthcare spaces. Cheryl's journey into interior design, starting in communications and eventually discovering her passion for the field. The influence of her Holocaust survivor grandmother as a source of inspiration. Key qualities for design leaders to inspire creativity, including giving everyone a voice and asking guiding questions. Cheryl's work on a cancer hospital project, particularly the pediatric wing, as a project she's most proud of. Her excitement about exploring new frontiers in civic and justice design. Advice for interior design students interested in healthcare, including networking and seeking informational interviews. The importance of passion and community in the design industry. Shout Outs Laura Ashley 33:27 New England School of Art and Design 33:36 Robert Wood Johnson and Rutgers 26:53 Sheryl and Jack Morris Cancer Center 26:58 HKS Architects 27:58 IIDA International Interior Design Association 47:32 ASID American Society of Interior Designers 47:32 AIA American Institute of Architects 47:32 Women in Construction 47:39 Center for Health Design 48:50 American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers 49:14 Industry Partners The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this. When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

"The saying is if you want to go fast, go alone, but if you want to go far, go together. And together is the way you create change." –Debra Levin on The Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 On today's episode, Cheryl interviews Debra Levin, Hon FASID, EDAC, President and Chief Executive Officer at The Center for Health Design. Lean in and listen to this exciting conversation about how The Center is adapting and expanding its initiatives to facilitate collaboration and knowledge-sharing between the healthcare, design, and product manufacturing sectors. A key focus is how The Center is building bridges across these communities through multidisciplinary events, research partnerships, and new specialized network groups like Pediatric Environment Network (PEN), Resilient Aging Environments Network (RAEN), and Behavioral Mental Health Environment Network. Learn more about The Center's member resources like The Knowledge Repository and how it has been driving innovation and improving healthcare environments in the post-COVID era.  Learn more about The Center for Health Design by visiting: https://www.healthdesign.org/. Reach out to Debra Levin directly by sending her an email to: [email protected]. In Cheryl's conversation with Debra Levin they discuss: What's new and changing at The Center that is influencing the healthcare design industry? Learn about The Center's new "environment networks" or membership groups that have been created around specific healthcare settings, like the Pediatric Environment Network (PEN), Resilient Aging Environments Network (RAIN) , and the Behavioral Mental Health Environment Network. Learn about the small groups fostering collaboration across sectors and how this aligns with The Center's goal of facilitating multidisciplinary conversations. What is the PDC Summit and how has The Center become a strategic education partner with the PDC, hosted by ASHE, for the first time in 2024? The Center's strategic planning after COVID to engage a global audience more effectively. The Center's latest focus on building bridges between healthcare, design, and product manufacturing communities. Learn about the new search functionality on The Center's website, added to improve accessibility. What are the emerging trends in healthcare? How you can get involved with The Center through things like affiliate memberships including free memberships for students. Shout Outs: 8:00 - Debra mentions EPIC, "We included people from broader, diverse areas, like a practicing physician who also does design research, somebody from EPIC, a hospital CEO who also has a nurse background." 11:37 - Debra shares information about The American Hospital Association (AHA) and ASHE (the engineering group of AHA) "It is a program that was spearheaded by ASHE, which is the engineering group of the American Hospital Association." 21:09 - Debra discusses the AAHID (American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers) and the FGI (Facility Guidelines Institute), and the NIHD (Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Professionals) The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this…When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

"As providers pursue the value-based model, they have to be mindful of the fact that it cannot compromise the patient experience, and in fact, should compliment the patient experience to the extent possible, as they continue to drive cost down." –Peter C. Yesawich on the Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 podcast On today's episode of the podcast, Cheryl interviews Peter C. Yesawich, PhD and Stowe Shoemaker, PhD; authors of the book, Hospitable HealthcareTM; Just What the Patient Ordered! Peter and Stowe unpack the book in this wonderful and deep conversation about how healthcare can benefit greatly from hospitality in new and unique ways. Learn about the authors' PAEER model detailed in their book, and how it can transform healthcare, in ways that may surprise you. Enjoy the episode! Learn more about Stowe Shoemaker and Peter C. Yesawichs' book Hospitable Healthcare™Just What the Patient Ordered!, here: https://hospitablehealthcare.com/. In Cheryl's conversation with Peter and Stowe, they discuss: What are hospitals doing right these days? What needs to change and why? Examples of empathetic and compassionate patient care in history Peter and Stowe unpack their new book - "Hospitable Healthcare™Just What the Patient Ordered!" What was the inspiration behind the book and who is the book for? How does the book benefit healthcare designers, planners, and architects? Peter shares influential stories and real life experiences that inspired "Hospitable Healthcare™Just What the Patient Ordered!" What is the PAEER model detailed in their book, and how can it transform healthcare? Learn the key hospitality principles for enhancing healthcare experience and the "servicescape" concept What does rewarding patient loyalty in healthcare look like? Peter and Stowe share stories and examples. What are some effective ways to encourage and manage patient feedback and reviews? Peter and Stowe's advice for healthcare leaders adopting the PAEER model What is the alignment of the book's PAEER model with value-based care? Exciting technologies for improving care experience How can healthcare balance technology and personal touch What are some of the challenges with using hospitality principles for pricing transparency in healthcare? If you've been following our recent book giveaway of Hospitable Healthcare™Just What the Patient Ordered across social media platforms like Instagram and LinkedIn, the answer to the question "What are the five words that make up the PAEER model?" is: Prepare, Anticipate, Engage, Evaluate, Reward. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/. FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this…When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

On part 1 of today's episode Cheryl interviews Sarah Tetens NCIDQ, RID, IIDA, CHID, EDAC, Design Director at Baskervill. In part 1 of their conversation, Sarah shares in detail what design life is like in the healthcare space post COVID, what design challenges are still present and why mental health is one of her passions. This and so much more on the changing face of healthcare design in part 1 of today's episode!  Learn more about Sarah Tetens and Baskervill by visiting:  https://baskervill.com/. Send Sarah a direct email here: [email protected] Learn more about Women in Healthcare's Florida Chapter by visiting: https://florida.womeninhealthcare.org/about/.  Email: [email protected] Visit Women In Healthcare online here: https://www.womeninhealthcare.org/. In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Sarah Tetens, they discuss: Sarah shares what have been the most significant changes that COVID has brought to the field of healthcare design and specifically her work at Baskervill. Sarah shares the positive changes COVID has brought about in the consideration of the design of the built environment in healthcare that affect patients, their families, staff and caretakers in a new way. Learn how touchpoints have been eliminated without negatively impacting the operations of hospital staff. What became more challenging in design post COVID? Why is mental health important to Sarah and how does it play a role in her projects? How can healthcare design support how people feel when they walk into a healthcare facility, how staff feel at work all day and how guests feel when they're anxiously waiting for a loved one to go through a procedure? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this…When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

In part 2 of today's episode, Cheryl continues her conversation with Sarah Tetens NCIDQ, RID, IIDA, CHID, EDAC, Design Director at Baskervill. They dig deeper into how empathy and compassion play a role in Sarah's work, why healthcare is purposeful and how that shows up with the people who choose healthcare as their career. This and so much more about the changing face of healthcare design on part 2 of today's show! Learn more about Sarah Tetens and Baskervill by visiting:  https://baskervill.com/. Send Sarah a direct email here: [email protected] Learn more about Women in Healthcare's Florida Chapter by visiting: https://florida.womeninhealthcare.org/about/.  Email : [email protected] Visit Women In Healthcare online here: https://www.womeninhealthcare.org/. In Part 2 of Cheryl's conversation with Sarah Tetens, they discuss: Sarah generously shares that her work in healthcare is purposeful, and the idea that everyone in healthcare – from nurse to technician to designer – is passionate about "doing good" is perhaps her favorite aspect of the work.  How do empathy and compassion play a role in Sarah's work and when are setting boundaries important? Who is Baskervill and what is its focus? What has Sarah's journey been like and how did she find healthcare design? What did Sarah learn from her experience in retail that has informed her work in healthcare? Learn more about the AAHID (The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers) and Sarah's role on the Board of Directors What is it like for Sarah to sit on the Board of Directors, Women in Healthcare's Florida Chapter? Listen to Sarah share her experience as a mentor to SeminalState ID kids, and why this work is so important Shout-Outs 12:13: Ana Pinto Alexander, Executive VP at HKS Architects 17:22  The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers (AAHID) 23:03 Women in Healthcare 28:55 Seminole State ID Students The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ Shout-Outs   FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcesens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well, let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this…When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

On part 1 of today's episode Cheryl interviews Erika Hill, IIDA, NCIDQ, Senior Interior Designer, McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture and Minta Ferguson, ACHA, AIA, NCARB, Director of Planning, McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture. Cheryl says, "The most fascinating piece of part 1 in today's interview is learning all the details of how and when the work of these two highly specialized professionals intersects within the same healthcare projects. How do these two women, with very different objectives and goals within a complex healthcare project, work together to ensure the project is smooth and inclusive of everyone's perspective?" This and so much more about today's world of healthcare design from these two brilliant women on part 1 of today's episode! Learn more about Minta Ferguson and Erika Hill by visiting: https://mcmillanpazdansmith.com/. Listen to McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture's podcast; Idea Exchange, Ideas Shaping Healthcare here: https://mcmillanpazdansmith.com/podcasts/healthcare/. In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Minta and Erika, they discuss: Who are Erika Hill and Minta Ferguson and how does their specialized work within McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture intersect on projects? How does the concept of collaboration play a vital role within Minta and Erika's projects and what does a collaborative moment look like for these two? Why is it important for Minta and Erika to understand that everyone on a project consumes knowledge differently? Are meetings an organic process for Minta and Erika or are they set in how they flow and function? When is it important to 'push the envelope' on a project? How do Minta and Erika resolve 'healthy conflicts' on a project? What does it mean to build trust in relationships in Minta and Erika's work? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces.   Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this…When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

On part 2 of today's episode, Cheryl continues her conversation with Erika Hill, IIDA, NCIDQ, Senior Interior Designer, McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture and Minta Ferguson, ACHA, AIA, NCARB, Director of Planning, McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture. In part 2 Minta and Erika flush out all the juicy details of their work on their favorite projects both together and separately and what made those projects so special to each of them. This and so much more about what's happening in healthcare design today on part 2 of today's episode of the Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 podcast! Learn more about Minta Ferguson and Erika Hill by visiting: https://mcmillanpazdansmith.com/.  Listen to McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture's podcast; Idea Exchange, Ideas Shaping Healthcare, here: https://mcmillanpazdansmith.com/podcasts/healthcare/. In Part 2 of Cheryl's conversation with Erika Hill and Minta Ferguson they discuss: What are Erika and Minta's current favorite projects and why? Learn about the technical aspects of some of the design on their projects and how detail oriented healthcare design and planning really is. How did McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture win their Teen Cancer America project? Hear all the details about TCA and the project itself and another related project What is different about designing a cancer unit for teens? How Minta and Erika know when a project is successful from what the end users have to say about it. What does a holistic design process look like to Erika? What does the future of healthcare design and planning look like to these two? Learn about McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture's podcast, Idea Exchange, Ideas Shaping Healthcare, where Minta is the host. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcesens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well, let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this...When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

"We are seeing that they are greatly reduced in size. People are now able to check-in online. You are able to go into your space when it is your turn. Gone are the days of sitting in that bus station elbow to elbow, waiting room so we are seeing a reduction in size." –Cam Twohey on The Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 podcast Cheryl's guest today on the podcast is Cam Twohey, AIA, WELL AP, NCARB, Associate Principal,  Senior Project Architect at Kahler Slater. On today's episode, Cam shares the number one significant change that COVID created in healthcare design in her work including the end of waiting rooms, her favorite current projects at Kahler Slater, her volunteer work at The American Institute of Architects and so much more! Sit back, relax and enjoy Cheryl's conversation with Cam Twohey on today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0! Learn more about Cam Twohey, AIA, WELL AP, NCARB, Associate Principal, Senior Project Architect, Kahler Slater by visiting: https://www.kahlerslater.com/ In Cheryl's conversation with Cam Twohey, they discuss: What has changed most significantly in the last two years since COVID in healthcare that is affecting Cam's work Why are waiting rooms a thing of the past and what has replaced them? Cam's favorite current project and why What's it like when Cam works with many others on a project? How is Cam's role different at Kahler Slater then it was at her former employment as Senior Project Architect at HOK? Did healthcare find Cam or did Cam find healthcare? Learn about her path to healthcare. What's it like for Cam to volunteer at The American Institute of Architects and how can you get involved? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATIONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this…When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

Cheryl's guests today on the podcast are two very special souls; Bryan Langlands, FAIA, FACHA, EDAC, LEED GA Principal NBBJ Architecture and Edwin Beltran NCIDQ, FIIDA, ASSOC. AIA, Partner, Lead Interior Designer, NBBJ Architecture. In part 1 of today's episode, Bryan shares the concept of "Moments of Generosity in Planning" and how, without comprising the budget, this method of planning, deeply improves the experience of patients and caregivers alike in ways you might not think of. Edwin shares the design concept he practices called Essentialism and how it plays a role in a value driven design. This and so much more about what's happening now in healthcare design, planning and architecture on part 1 of today's episode. Learn more about Bryan Langlands, Edwin Beltran and NBBJ  by visiting: http://www.nbbj.com/. In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Bryan and Edwin, they discuss: What happened during COVID and more specifically, what NBBJ projects failed? With COVID, design budgets were slashed in healthcare projects. Learn how Bryan responded by creating what he calls, "Moments of Generosity in Planning." Listen to Bryan share examples of "Moments of Generosity" including what the benefits are of bringing light (from strategically placed windows) into the nursing station and caregivers areas of a hospital? What are the financial benefits of using "Moments of Generosity in Planning?" What does Edwin mean when he says, "Economy is extremely important today without compromising a value driven design or decreasing the budget?" Edwin has referred to the word "Essentialism" to describe his approach to design with current projects. What is Essentialism and how does it play a role in a value driven design? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this…When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

On Part 2 of today's episode, Cheryl continues her rich and deep conversation with Bryan Langlands, FAIA, FACHA, EDAC, LEED GA, Principal NBBJ Architecture and Edwin Beltran NCIDQ, FIIDA, ASSOC. AIA, Partner, Lead Interior Designer, NBBJ Architecture. Edwin shares the deeper meaning of Essentialism in Design and what it means to humanity. Bryan shares how he led the charge in addressing the dilemma of overcrowding in our nation's emergency departments by calling for the recognition of a new type of treatment space for lower-acuity patients. Part 2 of today's conversation will continue to inspire and warm your heart. Learn more about Bryan Langlands, Edwin Beltran and NBBJ by visiting: http://www.nbbj.com/. In Part 2 of Cheryl's conversation with Bryan Langlands and Edwin Beltran they discuss: Edwin dives deeper into the concept of Essentialism in Design and gives specific examples of how this approach creates the sense of belonging and connection. How does color and texture achieve the sense of warmth and belonging? Essentialism is a branch of minimalism, but how is Essentialism different from minimalism? Bryan is a prolific and generous influencer of healthcare in many ways. What does he mean when he says, "What I find interesting is that we can effect change and regulation." Brian shares more about what he has learned from sitting on a Guideline Committee that sets guidelines every 4 years in healthcare. Bryan leads the charge in addressing the dilemma of overcrowding in our nation's emergency departments by calling for the recognition of a new type of treatment space for lower-acuity patients. His push for delivering "the right care at the right time in the right place" is resulting in the first major change to emergency department allowable requirements via the Facility Guidelines Institute (FGI) regulatory guidelines, which set the minimum requirements enforced in 44 states and federal agencies. What is Edwin seeing regarding FGI Regulatory Guidelines? How did Edwin and Bryan arrive at their careers in healthcare? Learn about their origin stories. What does the future of healthcare and architecture design hold from Edwin and Bryan's perspective? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get sick. So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this…When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please reach out to Porcelanosa. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

On today's episode, Cheryl interviews Karen S. Freeman, AIA, ACHA, NCIDQ, EDAC, LEED AP BD+C Practice Leader, Healthcare, at HOK–a global design, architecture, engineering and planning firm. Karen is also the incoming President for the national organization, Women In Healthcare - a nonprofit dedicated to promoting the professional development of women in the healthcare industry. There's a lot to share from Cheryl and Karen's inspiring conversation including the importance of designing for mental health, and why it matters so much in today's world. Learn more about Karen S. Freeman and HOK by visiting https://www.hok.com/. Learn more about Women in Healthcare by visiting https://www.womeninhealthcare.org/. In Cheryl's conversation with Karen S. Freeman, they discuss: The changes that took place in Karen's world when COVID hit the United States in 2020. Specifically, what changed with Karen's pediatric and subspecialty projects? What did Karen learn from the pandemic? Karen wrote an article for HOK entitled, "Pediatric Mental Health Crisis Needs Bold Design Strategy" that addressed the needs of children during the pandemic through the design of the built environment. Learn what the article is all about. Has the situation in the mental healthcare space improved now that we are in 2022? What still needs to happen to help kids in the mental health space and what progress has been made. What is Karen's sweet spot in the work she does at HOK? Karen holds a Six Sigma Lean Black Belt in Healthcare (LBBH) and she is one of fewer than 450 board-certified healthcare architects in the U.S. per the American College of Healthcare Architects (ACHA). How does Karen bring all of this together on her healthcare projects? Listen to Karen talk about her incoming role as the new President of the national organization, Women in Healthcare. What does the organization do and offer? Learn about Karen's origin story and how she came to specialize in pediatric healthcare and why this theme holds a special place in her heart. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT The prevention of nosocomial infections is of paramount importance. Did you know that bathrooms and showers – particularly in shared spaces – are a veritable breeding ground for pathogen, some of which we see in the form of mold and the build-up of toxic bio films on surfaces. Body fats and soap scums provide a rich food sauce for micro-organisms such as airborne bacteria Serratia Marcescens, which thrive in humid conditions. We know that people with weakened immune systems are so much more vulnerable to the illnesses associated with infection and let's face it, none of us go into the shower with an expectation that we might get ill… So how do we keep those shower walls clean? Well let's think big – BIG TILES. Porcelanosa have developed XXL Hygienic Ceramic Tiles that are 5 feet long - which means just one piece fits the wall of a shower or tub surround. XTONE Porcelain slabs are 10 feet high which means a floor to ceiling surface with no joints. Why does this matter? Well hygienic glaze will not harbor pathogen and surface impurities are easily removed to prevent build up – it is reassuring to know the evidence - INTERNATONAL STANDARDS Test ISO 10545 - Resistance to Stains -  has determined these surfaces can be easily cleaned and the most difficult contaminants washed away, greatly reducing the need for aggressive chemicals. Think about this…When we unload our dishwasher our ceramic tableware is sparkling clean, sanitized and fresh to use - again and again. The principle is the same with large ceramic walls - So, when planning the shower surrounds for your facilities please send reach out to Porcelanosa at [email protected]. The designer in you will love the incredible options and your specification will deliver the longest & best lifecycle value bar none.

Cheryl's special guest today on the podcast is Sandy Goodman,IIDA, CHID, EDAC, LEED AP, LSSBB, and President of CRGA Design. CRGA provides comprehensive architectural, interior design and planning services utilizing an experienced in-house team of architects and interior designers specializing in healthcare design. Sandy shares in detail how the pandemic influenced the way she and her team work with their healthcare clients and partners on projects, and what lessons she has taken away from the experience. Lean in and listen to part 1 of today's podcast with this Lean Six-Sigma Black Belt, Sandy Goodman, who generously shares what it means to maximize efficiency and eliminate waste in the healthcare environment. Learn more about Sandy Goodman and CRGA Design by visiting https://crgadesign.com/. In Cheryl's conversation with Sandy Goodman, they discuss: How did CRGA experience COVID in 2020? How has the pandemic influenced the way Sandy and her team work with their healthcare clients and partners on projects? What does Sandy mean when she says that she and her team are "very innovative, pushing the envelope a little bit" on projects? Sandy is a Lean Six-Sigma black belt. What does this mean for Sandy's projects at CRGA? How does Sandy utilize her unique expertise to maximize efficiency and eliminate waste in the healthcare environment? Sandy has said that she and her team are architects and interior designers working seamlessly together and that all CRGA's designers are planners. How does this benefit projects? Coming up on part 2 of today's episode, Cheryl continues her rich conversation with Sandy Goodman. Sandy generously shares what it means to put the patient in the middle, and the importance of the AAHID (The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers), what they offer, and how having Certified Healthcare Interior Designers on your teams makes a unique difference in what their team offers their healthcare partners. Part 2 of today's episode is available now. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/

On Part 2 of today's episode, Cheryl continues her fascinating conversation with Sandy Goodman, IIDA, CHID, EDAC, LEED AP, LSSBB, and President of CRGA Design. CRGA provides comprehensive architectural, interior design and planning services utilizing an experienced in-house team of architects and interior designers specializing in healthcare design. Sandy generously shares what it means to put the patient in the middle, and the importance of the AAHID (The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers), what they offer, and how having Certified Healthcare Interior Designers on your teams makes a unique difference in what their team offers their healthcare partners. Learn more about Sandy Goodman and CRGA Design by visiting https://crgadesign.com/. In Cheryl's conversation with Sandy Goodman, they discuss: What Sandy means when she says, "We really focus on putting the patient in the middle." Sandy shares more about the AAHID, what they offer, and how having Certified Healthcare Interior Designers on your teams makes a unique difference in what their team offers their healthcare partners. Sandy's journey that led to her career in healthcare What inspires Sandy today? What is the future of healthcare and how can interior designers and architects become more prepared? What advice does Sandy have for interior design and architecture students who are considering healthcare as their specialty, and also have some reservations about it? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/

On Part 1 of today's episode, Cheryl interviews Trisha Fong, Assoc. AIA, Senior Associate at e4h, Environments for Health Architecture. Trisha generously shines the spotlight on e4h's 4wrd; Diversity, Equity, Inclusion initiative. What is 4wrd and why was it created? How can 4wrd help change the healthcare design community and the world for the better? This and so much more on the changing face of healthcare design on part 1 of today's episode with Trisha Fong. Learn more about Trisha Fong and e4h architecture by visiting https://e4harchitecture.com/ In Cheryl's conversation with Trisha Fong, they discuss: What is 4wrd, and how did it get started? How can 4wrd help change the healthcare design community and the world for the better? What are the meeting sessions that are offered through the 4wrd initiative and who else can participate in the sessions? Who are the Oneida Nation and how has e4h worked with Oneida to provide better healthcare for their communities? How can other healthcare architects, designers, students, nurses and stakeholders support DEI initiatives within their fields? Coming up on part 2 of today's episode we look at e4h's 4wrd initiative in action! Cheryl's interviews Bill Repichowskyj, Partner at e4h, Environments for Health Architecture. Bill takes us on the journey of e4h's design project for the Oneida Nation; a federally recognized tribe of Oneida people in the United States. Part 2 is available now. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/

On Part 2 of today's episode, Cheryl interviews Bill Repichowskyj, AIA, Partner e4h, Environments for Health Architecture. Bill gives us a closer look at e4h's 4wrd initiative in action by generously walking us through the firm's design project for Oneida Nation; two new outpatient clinics in The Dreamcatcher Plaza in Oneida, New York—the Oneida Nation Health Services building and the Bassett Oneida Health Center. How did Bill and his team win the project? What was unique about designing healthcare facilities for the Oneida Nation–a federally recognized tribe of Oneida people in the United States? Learn the answers to these questions and more on the changing face of healthcare design on part 2 of today's episode with Bill Repichowskyj. Learn more about Bill Repichowskyj and e4h architecture by visiting https://e4harchitecture.com/. In Cheryl's conversation with Bill Repichowskyj, they discuss: How did e4h win the healthcare projects at The Dreamcatcher Plaza in Oneida, New York; the Oneida Nation Health Services building and the Bassett Oneida Health Center? How was the Oneida Nation Healthcare Services project unique and how does it align with e4h's 4wrd initiative? How was this project different from others that Bill has worked on at e4h? What was it like working with the Oneida Nation? What did Bill and his team learn from spending time with representatives at Oneida Nation prior to beginning the project? The story of Bill's journey into healthcare. Bill's thoughts on the importance of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in healthcare architecture and design, and where it is headed, moving forward. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/.

What is the "new reality" in healthcare that has arisen due to the pandemic and how has it affected the healthcare design and architecture professions? Cheryl's special guest on part 1 of today's episode is Barbara Dellinger, Director of Design and Research at Adventist HealthCare. Barbara sheds light on the complex topic of current furniture and fabric specification around COVID. What is the CFFA 201 Healthcare Testing for Durable Coated Fabrics (DCF) and where does a healthcare designer begin to find best practices and current, reputable information on the subject? Barbara generously answers these questions and so much more on the changing face of healthcare design on today's episode of the Healthcare Interior Design 2.0 podcast! Learn more about Barbara Dellinger by visiting: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-dellinger-9697b613/ Learn more about Adventist Healthcare by visiting: https://www.adventisthealthcare.com/. Read the presentation from the 2021 HCD (Healthcare Design Conference) - The More You Know: Reduce Failures by Understanding Performance Requirements for Healthcare Durable Coated Fabrics and Surface Materials: https://aahid.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/durable-coated-fabrics-ppt-2021-hcd.pdf In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Barbara Dellinger, they discuss: How has Barbara seen the patient experience change over the years? The importance of evidence-based design (EBD) as seen through the eyes of an interior designer. What makes a healing environment and what are some of Barbara's favorite healing spaces? What is the "new reality" and how does it relate to furniture and fabric specification around COVID? What is the CFFA 201 healthcare testing for durable coated fabrics (DCF) and what does this mean for healthcare? What is the Durable Coated Fabrics Task Group and what is Barbara's involvement with this group? Barbara discusses her work with the AAHID or The American Association of Healthcare Interior Designers. What is EDAC and Barbara's relationship with The Center for Health Design who offer the EDAC Certification? On Part 2 of today's episode, "What Would Barbara Do?" Lauren Banas, Vice President of Sales and Marketing at Krug, a multi award winning furniture manufacturer of innovative commercial and healthcare solutions, is in the host seat!  Lauren continues Cheryl's conversation with Barbara Dellinger by asking her several specific questions about current furniture and fabric specification requirements. The "What Would Barbara Do" segment of the podcast is a light hearted discussion about a very complex topic. Barbara answers questions that have been on the minds of healthcare design professionals continuously since the pandemic began in the US in 2020. Part 2 of today's episode "What Would Barbara Do?" is available now. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/

On Part 2 of today's episode, "What Would Barbara Do?" Lauren Banas, Vice President of Sales and Marketing at Krug, a multi award winning furniture manufacturer of innovative commercial and healthcare solutions, is in the host seat!  Lauren continues Cheryl's conversation with Barbara Dellinger in part 1 of today's episode by asking her several specific questions about current furniture and fabric specification requirements. "What Would Barbara Do?" is a light hearted discussion about a very complex topic and answers questions that have been on the minds of healthcare design professionals continuously since the pandemic began in the United States in 2020.  Learn more about the Chemical Fabrics and Film Association by visiting:  https://www.chemicalfabricsandfilm.com/. Learn more about Evidence Based Design and The Knowledge Repository by visiting The Center for Health Design at https://www.healthdesign.org/. Read the presentation from the 2021 HCD (Healthcare Design Conference) - The More You Know: Reduce Failures by Understanding Performance Requirements for Healthcare Durable Coated Fabrics and Surface Materials: https://aahid.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/durable-coated-fabrics-ppt-2021-hcd.pdf In Part 2 of Lauren's conversation with Barbara Dellinger, they discuss: Why is Barbara Dellinger Lauren's favorite "go to person" when faced with a concern about fabrics for healthcare environments? Vinyl in the past has been abandoned by manufacturers. Is it back?  Is durability more important than sustainability? What happens when fabrics puddle and wrinkle? Is there any way for designers to know which fabrics will succeed and which ones will fail? Are woven fabrics ever acceptable? Why is chair construction so important? What are the current trends – solid surface vs. laminate, wood vs. metal? What does Barbara consider to be the minimal rate rating acceptable when specifying lounge seating in healthcare environments? Who are the Chemical Fabrics and Film Association, and why are they such a great resource for designers? Krug Healthcare Solutions is a multi-Nightingale award-winning furniture manufacturer. Krug has been recognized as a leader in the healthcare furnishings marketplace by senior healthcare designers and top healthcare facilities throughout North America. Krug is committed to developing outstanding product solutions that are beautiful, highly functional, sustainable, and deliver outstanding value. Krug takes an evidence-based, person-centered approach to all aspects of product design. Their comprehensive offering includes a variety of options for common areas, patient spaces, and administrative zones. Krug's environmental commitment is strong. They continuously work to incorporate environmental sustainability in all business practices and manufacturing processes. For more information about Krug Healthcare Solutions, please visit their website at www.krug.ca. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl and Lauren's conversation today with Barbara Dellinger, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit http://healthcareidpodcast.com.

What happened in 1995 when a 30 year old Clinical Oncology Nurse Specialist at the Western General Hospital in Edinburgh, Scotland gave chemotherapy to her breast cancer patient named Maggie Keswick Jencks? How did this immediate friendship lead to 24 Maggie's centers in NHS hospitals across the UK, and three independently run international centers, 26 years later? On Part 1 of today's episode, Cheryl interviews Dame Laura Lee, DBE, Chief Executive of Maggie's--Everyone's Home for Cancer Care. Maggie's is a special story shared here through Cheryl and Laura's deeply rich and meaningful conversation. Learn how Laura and Maggie became friends, and prior to Maggie's passing in 1995, had created architectural plans for the first Maggie's center in the UK. How did Laura make the transition from Clinical Oncology Nurse Specialist to becoming the first employee of Maggie's? How did she learn about architecture and design, and how did she attract the attention of famous architects, like Frank Gehry, Norman Foster, Richard Rogers, and Renzo Piano to design Maggie's centers? Sit back, relax and enjoy this deeply nourishing conversation about how two women with a mission to transform cancer care for patients, their families and caregivers attracted the attention of Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Cornwall who, in November 2008, became Maggie's President.  Learn more about Dame Laura Lee and Maggie's by visiting: https://www.maggies.org/. Maggie's architectural brief is given to every architect who designs a Maggie's center. Learn more here: https://www.maggies.org/about-us/publications/ In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Dame Laura Lee, they discuss: What was Laura Lee's life like prior to meeting Maggie Keswick Jencks, her oncology patient in 1995 who would be the catalyst for Maggie's? What happened when Laura met Maggie in 1995, when she was thirty years old, and working as a Clinical Oncology Nurse Specialist at the Western General Hospital in Edinburgh, Scotland?  What was it about that connection with Maggie that inspired both Laura and Maggie to take action to create the first Maggie's? What was Laura's transition like from being an oncology nurse to learning about architecture and design, and getting architects to help build Maggies? What makes Maggies different from other cancer care facilities in the UK and in the world? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

On Part 2 of today's episode with Dame Laura Lee, DBE, Chief Executive of Maggie's –Everyone's Home for Cancer Care, Laura shares details of the special gardens at Maggie's, and how thoughtfully they are designed to nourish every visitor, supporting both optimistic and challenging conversations.  Learn more about Maggie's famous architects, the architect of the first Maggie's center, and what qualities an architect must have to make her or him a perfect fit to design a Maggie's. How did Frank Gehry become a Maggie's architect, and how did Her Royal Highness The Duchess of Cornwall become Maggie's President in 2008? Part 2 continues Cheryl's deep conversation with Dame Laura Lee as they explore the evolution of Maggie's centers, what has changed because of the pandemic, and what the future of Maggie's holds. Learn more about Dame Laura Lee and Maggie's by visiting: https://www.maggies.org/. Read Maggie's architectural brief; given to every architect who designs a Maggie's center: https://www.maggies.org/about-us/publications/. In Part 2 of Cheryl's conversation with Dame Laura Lee, they discuss: What do the gardens that play a central role in Maggie's look like, and how do they provide nourishment to their visitors? How did Maggie's husband, Charles Jencks get involved with Maggie's? Who was the architect who built the first Maggie's? What qualities does an architect have that make him/her a perfect fit to design a Maggie's? What are some of Maggie's current challenges with the pandemic, and how has  Maggie's adapted? Listen to Laura tell the story of how In November 2008, HRH (Her Royal Highness) The Duchess of Cornwall became Maggie's President.  In 2019, Laura was awarded a Damehood for her services to people with cancer. Hear Laura tell the story and explain what exactly a Dame is. Who are some of Maggie's strategic partners? What advice does Laura have for interior design and architecture students who are considering the field of healthcare, but might be a bit afraid of taking the plunge and specializing in it? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

In part 1 of today's episode, Cheryl speaks with Phoebe Stein and David Ashen---Co-founders of the Ageless Living Collaborative --a collective of advocates who are passionately dedicated to creating optimum outcomes for senior living. Phoebe is also the founder of Olive Presents, a public relations firm and David is the President & CEO of Dash Design--an interior design and branding firm. The conversation was kicked off with Cheryl's question, "What is the Ageless Living Collaborative?"  David shares, "Phoebe got me into senior living and seated an idea of how we could help convey information and help people during COVID and beyond that." Phoebe continues, "I got very excited because I love doing things in senior living and I was excited about the prospect of helping designers and ultimately helping seniors." Learn more about the ALC, when it started and how the organization is helping designers and consumers understand more about senior living. This and so much more on part 1 of today's episode of the podcast with Phoebe Stein and David Ashen! Learn more about the Ageless Living Collaborative by visiting: https://www.agelesslivingcollaborative.org/ Follow the ALC on Social Media: Instagram: @ageless_living_collaborativeLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ageless-living-collaborative/ In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Phoebe Stein and David Ashen they discuss: What is the Ageless Living Collaborative and when was it started? How can the ALC help the senior living design community and the hospitality design community learn more about senior living design? Who are the demographic groups in the ALC's audience and what demographic surprised the ALC most? What kinds of webinars does the ALC offer? What are small house communities and why are they interesting to seniors? How can the ALC influence curriculum in schools and share interest about senior living design to students? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.  

In part 2 of Cheryl's interview with  Phoebe Stein and David Ashen; Co-founders of the Ageless Living Collaborative, a collective of advocates who are passionately dedicated to creating optimum outcomes for senior living, Phoebe and David share their origin stories and how their careers have informed their work with the ALC. Phoebe shares, "Coming from agency life, I have a diverse background. I've touched technology and automotive and so many different segments. Many of our collaborators at the ALC also have those diverse backgrounds. We can literally call on people for the technology piece. This is something special because it is beyond being a great designer. It is having that other dimension." This and more about the Ageless Living Collaborative on part 2 of today's episode with Phoebe Stein and David Ashen. Learn more about the Ageless Living Collaborative by visiting: https://www.agelesslivingcollaborative.org/ Follow the ALC on Social Media: Instagram: @ageless_living_collaborativeLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/ageless-living-collaborative/ In Part 2 of Cheryl's conversation with Phoebe Stein, David Ashen they discuss: What are Phoebe and David's origin stories and how did they inform their work today with the Ageless Living Collaborative? What does Phoebe mean when she says, "Our collaborators are multi-dimensional"? Who and what is nourishing Phoebe and David right now? How does someone know they would benefit from all the ALC has to offer? How is the ALC filling a need in our culture? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.  

On today's episode, Cheryl interviews Laura Busalacchi, IIDA, NCIDQ, WRID, EDAC, Senior Director of Interior Services at Brookdale Senior Living. Brookdale owns and operates over 700 senior living communities and retirement communities in the United States and their base is in Brentwood, Tennessee. In part 1 of today's episode, Cheryl asks Laura the question, "What are the challenges with current cleaning and overcleaning protocols in the senior living space, and why is this so important right now?" Laura shares, "One of the challenges is overcleaning. People often think more is better. Here's an analogy I like to use. Think of upholstery and carpet fabric like a textile; like your clothing. Because at the root, upholstery and carpet are made out of fibers just like your clothing. So when you get a stain on your clothing, you spray it with some sort of cleaner, then you agitate it and rub it in, and then you put it in the washing machine. This process includes a rinse cycle and sometimes people like to do two rinses. Then you move it to the dryer or you let it air dry. It's the same process for textiles and carpet. The step that is most frequently missed is the rinse. Most of the time, the rinsing to get the residue off is what is missed and when that is missed, it acts as a magnet to dirt and debris and will make your upholstery or flooring dirty faster." This and so much more on the changing face of senior living design from Laura Busalacchi on part 1 of today's episode. Learn more about Laura Busalacchi and Brookdale Senior Living by visiting: https://www.brookdale.com/en.html. In part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Laura Busalacchi , they discuss: There is a sense in which Senior Living was kind of Ground Zero for COVID. Laura sets the scene for how impactful COVID was in the world of senior living?  Many firms have seen a project volume as a result of COVID. What about Brookdale?  What have Laura and her team at Brookdale done to respond to COVID?  What have been some of the lessons learned here with COVID and Brookdale? Based on what Laura has heard and seen, how prepared is Brookdale for another major viral pandemic in the next ten to 20 years?  Senior Living Foresight has reported that more than half of senior living communities in this country are in immediate and dire financial peril. And yet, most are without any COVID relief funds. The rest have received a tiny amount of what they need. Hear Laura share what is happening within Brookdale and how the company is  beginning to recover from this?  What are the challenges with current cleaning and overcleaning protocols in the senior living space, and why is this so important right now? Laura has said, "There is an automatic application to disinfecting and cleaning, the old way and not in the new way." What is the new way of cleaning?  Who is educating those responsible for cleaning at Brookdale? How did Laura get to the seat she sits in today including why she chose senior living Who is Laura's biggest inspiration today? How has the hospitality industry influenced Laura and her work at Brookdale? In part 2 of Cheryl's conversation today with Laura Busalacchi, Senior Director of Interior Services at Brookdale Senior Living, Laura shares what Brookdale project made her cry and why. What moments are priceless for Laura in a project? What keeps her motivated to continue when big challenges present themselves, and how did she end up working for Brookdale? This and so much more on the changing face of senior living design from Laura Busalacchi, on part 2 of today's episode, available now. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

In part 2 of Cheryl's conversation today with Laura Busalacchi, Senior Director of Interior Services at Brookdale Senior Living, Laura shares what Brookdale project made her cry and why. What moments are priceless for Laura in a project? What keeps her motivated to continue when big challenges present themselves, and how did she end up working for Brookdale? This and so much more on the changing face of senior living design from Laura Busalacchi, on part 2 of today's episode.  Learn more about Laura Busalacchi and Brookdale Senior Living by visiting: https://www.brookdale.com/en.html. In part 2 of Cheryl's conversation with Laura Busalacchi , they discuss: How did Laura end up working for Brookdale? What have been some of Laura's favorite Brookdale projects and why? What project made Laura cry and why? How does Laura get through project challenges and what keeps her motivated? What is the future of senior living in Laura's opinion?  What advice does Laura have for interior design or architecture students who are considering specializing in senior living, but are also afraid of it?  Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation today with Laura Busalacchi, Senior Director of Interior Services at Brookdale Senior Living, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit: http://healthcareidpodcast.com. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

On Part 1 of today's episode, Cheryl interviews Michael Lied, Principal & Director of Healthcare at GBBN. Cheryl and Michael had an honest and meaningful conversation about the challenges in healthcare today and what designers and architects in the industry can do to innovate. Cheryl asks Michael the question, "It's been a long year and a half since COVID first came on the scene in this country. What have been some of the most profound changes in GBBN's work of designing healthcare facilities that you have seen?"  Michael shares, "One of the biggest changes has been the impact to our healthcare workforce and our care providers. Seeing that 25% of our care providers, in a recent survey, are considering leaving the profession is really tough." This, and so much more on the changing face of healthcare design and architecture post COVID with Michael Lied, Principal & Director of Healthcare at GBBN, on today's episode. Learn more about Michael Lied and GBBN by visiting https://www.gbbn.com/. In Cheryl's conversation with Michael Lied, they discuss: It's been a long year and a half since COVID first came on the scene in this country. What have been some of the most profound changes at GBBN that Michael has seen? Why are 25% of our care providers considering leaving the profession and what can the healthcare design community do about it? What is one of the silver linings of the pandemic? Why has healthcare been way behind at innovating from its own industry and how can this change? Why is this an exciting time in healthcare? How can the healthcare design community help manage burnout among caregivers? Is there a new product typology in healthcare? How can architecture respond to patients and their family's arrival to the hospital and their navigation throughout the building to help reduce stress and anxiety? Learn more about GBBN's project, Novak Center, a pediatric center in Louisville, Kentucky that brings together the entrypoint and exit, and celebrates children. What does Michael mean when he says "It is time to stop copying other industries and it is time to start pulling our resources together and understanding the uniqueness of healthcare and how environments should operate?" Why is a waiting room always the same across the country and not purpose built? Why is it not designed for the demographic of the area? And, what barriers is this creating? How can stairs be built so more people will choose them over an elevator? How did Michael get into healthcare? What will hospitals look like in 30 years? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

On part 2 of  today's episode, Cheryl interviews Angela Mazzi, FAIA, FACHA, EDAC and Principal at GBBN. Cheryl asks Angela the question, "What is Salutogenesis and how does it apply to healthcare?"  Angela answers, "This is a term coined by medical sociologist Aaron Antonovsky. It has latin roots--saluto meaning health and genesis meaning generating. We're all familiar with pathogenetic or disease causing, and this sort of the opposite. What Aaron Antonovsky had noticed was that the resources people had to cope in an environment affected their outcomes. Essentially the amount of stressors in their environment and the way that they could deal with things could make a difference whether they had better healing or less beneficial healing." Learn more about how Angela and her team at GBBN apply salutogenesis and the positive outcomes that result. This and so much more on the changing face of healthcare design on today's episode of the podcast with Angela Mazzi. Learn more about Angela Mazzi and GBBN by visiting https://www.gbbn.com/. RESOURCES referenced in this episode High Volume ED paper: https://healtharchitects.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/High-Volume-ED-Final.pdf HERD Journal Article on Salutogenesis : https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1937586720967347 GBBN Salutogenesis insight : https://www.gbbn.com/insights/have-you-herd-angela-mazzi-published-in-health-environments-research-design-journal/ Angela talks about the importance of a variety of milieu in this article in Healthcare Design Magazine: https://healthcaredesignmagazine.com/trends/architecture/answering-call-behavioral-healthcare-pediatric-facilities/?hilite=%27Angela%27%2C%27Mazzi%27# GBBN Milieu Insight: https://www.gbbn.com/insights/milieu-creating-restorative-environments-in-behavioral-health/ In Cheryl's conversation with Angela Mazzi, they discuss: In November, 2020, The American College of Healthcare Architects elected Angela as their president of the Board of Regents. What does this new position mean for Angela and her career to assume this new role? Angela co-authored the white paper, "High Volume Healthcare as a Livable Environment: Strategies from the ED" and in it she shares evidence-based strategies to improve the patient experience of high volume chaotic ED's by promoting flow, quality of care, safety and security. Hear Angela unpack this with Cheryl. How have things changed in the ED post COVID? What is Salutogenesis and how does it apply to healthcare? How does Angela apply the ancient art and science of Feng Shui to her healthcare projects? What are Angela's current projects at GBBN? How did Angela arrive at Healthcare? Angela hosts a weekly show on Clubhouse on Monday mornings called, "Architects as Healers, Building as Medicine" at 9am EST, and "Critical Conversations" on Sundays at 2pm EST. Angela talks in more detail about these shows. In Angela's opinion, what will hospitals look like in 20 to 30 years? For interior design, architecture and Feng Shui students who might be interested in moving into healthcare as a specialization, but are a bit afraid of it, Angela has some interesting advice for you? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

On today's episode, Cheryl interviews Lynnette Tedder, Healthcare Interiors Practice Leader at Perkins+Will. Lynnette was raised by a father who worked with NASA on the Apollo 11 LUNAR landing program, and of course, Cheryl was curious! She asked Lynnette the question, "What was it like to be raised by a father who worked with NASA on the Apollo 11 LUNAR landing program and how did that inform your work in healthcare?" Lynnette shares, "Math was big in our lives. My dad was a physicist and he had a chalkboard in his office full of formulas, which I had no idea what those meant. I have always loved floor plans and puzzles and I put that math thing to work. I think it makes me a good planner."  More on this and the new face of healthcare design from Healthcare Interiors Practice Leader at Perkins+Will, Lynnette Tedder, on today's episode of the podcast. Learn more about Lynnette Tedder and Perkins+Will by visiting https://perkinswill.com/. In Cheryl's conversation with Lynnette Tedder, they discuss: What's been the one thing that has surprised Lynnette the most in her work during COVID? Why did Lynnette choose to focus on designing healthcare environments that promote healing by altering the ambiance of a room through materiality and the careful placement of lighting and furniture?  What has working from home taught Lynnette about collaborating on projects with her colleagues? Lynnette has said, "The whole healthcare practice has gone through a kind of new birth." What does Lynnette mean by this and how is this informing her work now at Perkins+Will? What are "healthy materials" and why is this a big focus for Perkins+Will? Many healthcare designers are looking for information on healthy materials to specify under CDC guidelines. What advice does Lynnette have for them? Lynnette was raised by a father who worked with NASA on the Apollo 11 LUNAR landing program. What was that like and how did it influence her work in healthcare? What have been some of Lynnette's favorite projects with Perkins+Will and why? What is the future of healthcare from Lynnette's perspective? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation today with Lynnette Tedder, Healthcare Interiors Practice Leader at Perkins+Will, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit: http://healthcareidpodcast.com. FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

On today's episode, Cheryl interviews Gina Chang, AIA, EDAC, Principal and Healthcare architect at CO Architects. Cheryl asks Gina the question, "What is the collaborative workplace in healthcare that we see coming out of healthcare and why is it so important right now?"  Gina shares, "For so long we've been focused on the patients and their families which is very important. The staff is also part of the healing machine of the hospital. Human centered design focuses on humans and these humans who take care of other humans deserve to be taken care of as well. It's about time some of the best spaces in the hospital went to the staff." This and so much more on the changing face of healthcare design post-COVID from Gina Chang's perspective on today's episode of the podcast. Learn more about Gina Chang, AIA, EDAC, Principal and Healthcare Architect at CO Architects by visiting https://coarchitects.com/. In Cheryl's conversation with Gina Chang, they discuss: It's been a long year since COVID first came on the scene in this country. What's been the one thing that has surprised Gina in her work post-COVID? It has been said about Gina, "With more than 20 years of experience, Gina understands both the complex nature of healthcare facilities, and the simple fact that these are places where people need to feel human, vulnerable, and safe." How did Gina arrive at this empathetic understanding of the experience of the hospital space? Gina had an "aha moment" during a post-occupancy evaluation with an ICU nurse that changed her. What is the collaborative workplace in healthcare that is becoming more and more commonplace in the hospital setting? We all know there is a severe shortage of nurses and doctors who are really stressed out. How can the design of the environment help? In 2019 the Advisory Board reported that nearly 50% of physicians classify themselves as burned out. By 2030, worldwide, there needs to be double the amount of workforce there is today? What does this mean and how can healthcare architects and designers help? Why medical students currently will not have any problem with finding a collaborative workplace in their first hospital job. Gina has said, "My interest in design was nurtured in childhood through sculpture and creating objects with parts and pieces of things." Listen to this inspiring story that continues in Gina's life at home today. Gina shares, "Color is not just for looking good. I knew a pain doctor who only wore blue shirts because blue has been proven to reduce pain" Why is this meaningful for Gina and for healthcare architects and designers? What have been some of Gina's favorite healthcare projects and why? What is Gina's advice to healthcare architecture and design students who are considering specializing in healthcare, and are also afraid of it? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation today with Gina Chang, AIA, EDAC, Principal and Healthcare Architect at CO Architects, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit http://healthcareidpodcast.com. FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

In Part 1 of today's episode, Cheryl speaks with Roderic Walton, AIA, NOMA, NCARB; Principal at Moody Nolan - the nation's largest African American architecture firm. Cheryl and Roderic dive deep into the topic of race in healthcare and architecture. Cheryl asks Roderic what it's like to work for the nation's largest African American architecture firm. Roderic shares, "My individual performance is often represented as that of the entire African American community by so many people that I interact with, and it can be overwhelming. There are so few black architects practicing today and what that means is that often I am the only person of color who is in a leadership role, and looks like me, in most of my professional interactions." Learn more about what the experience is like for people of color when they enter the healthcare space and why there is a direct correlation between what communities African Americans live in and the type of healthcare they receive, and how healthcare design and architecture professionals can truly change this. Tune in to part 1 of this deeply informative, compassionate and engaging interview with Roderic Walton. Learn more about Roderic Walton,and Moody Nolan by visiting: http://moodynolan.com/. Read Roderic Walton's white paper entitled, "Equity in Healthcare: Healthcare in Black America, 'Where We Are' The Current State of Healthcare in America." here:  https://www.nomanash.com/healthequity2 and here: https://www.nomanash.com/healthequity3 In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Roderic Walton they discuss: What is it really like for Roderic (a person of color) to work for the nation's largest African American architecture firm -- Moody Nolan -- who, among other areas of focus, address issues of disparity and uplift communities that have been disenfranchised? The story of Roderic's early experience of racism in the field of architecture and how this was a wake-up call that race was going to be an issue. What led to Roderic's decision to write a powerful white paper entitled, "Equity in Healthcare: Healthcare in Black America, 'Where We Are' The Current State of Healthcare in America?" Roderic's white paper unpacks the complex relationship between racism, redlining, and the current asymmetry in health outcomes for Black and other minority communities. Here are two links to this read this white paper: https://www.nomanash.com/healthequity2 and https://www.nomanash.com/healthequity3 COVID has highlighted one vivid and easy-to-understand example of racial bias translating to real harm, and that is the way that pulse oximeters have reduced accuracy with dark-pigmented skin. Roderic shares other examples of harm resulting from bias — or outright racism — that listeners might be less aware of. What is the experience like for people of color when they enter the healthcare space? What is the direct correlation between what communities African Americans live in and the type of healthcare they receive? What was the foundation that was used to justify discrimination that we've seen historically? It's obvious to anyone willing to look that Black, Indigenous, and People of color are underrepresented in architecture. This is a group that is around 40% of the US population and 2% of architecture. What has contributed to this? Why has the healthcare design and architecture industry, despite some effort at diversity and inclusion, failed to make much improvement here? Roderic walks us through the journey that got him to where he is today. Why did Roderic pursue a career where he looks around a typical meeting room and sees so few people like himself? Moody Nolan was given the 2021 AIA Gold Medal and Firm Award. Roderic shares what this means to him and to his firm.  How has Paul Revere Williams, the first certified African-American architect west of the Mississippi influenced the work that Roderic and Moody Nolan does today? In part 2 of Cheryl's interview with Roderic Walton, AIA, NOMA, NCARB; Principal at Moody Nolan, Cheryl asks Roderic the question, "When thinking about the future, how can healthcare design and architecture professionals begin to change entrenched systems that are the source of some of these race-related problems?" Roderic shares, "The solution starts with an understanding that it's not just about individual folks solving their own problems, picking themselves up by their bootstraps and overcoming centuries of oppression. The study of history is clear, it's instructive; we have a collective responsibility to address these types of concerns. Architects can become active participants in community engagement and outreach activities, and really position ourselves as being much more inclusive and receptive to the notion that we have elective responsibility here to address these issues of oppression. And because we are architects does not mean the problem lies outside of our industry. We are part of the solution." This and so much more on the changing face of healthcare design on part 2 of today's episode with Roderic Walton now available. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org.   Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation with Roderic Walton, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit http://healthcareidpodcast.com. FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

In part 2 of Cheryl's engaging interview with Roderic Walton, AIA, NOMA, NCARB, Principal at Moody Nolan, Cheryl asks Roderic the question, "When thinking about the future, how can healthcare design and architecture professionals begin to change entrenched systems that are the source of some of these race-related problems?" Roderic shares, "The solution starts with an understanding that it's not just about individual folks solving their own problems, picking themselves up by their bootstraps and overcoming centuries of oppression. The study of history is clear, it's instructive; we have a collective responsibility to address these types of concerns. Architects can become active participants in community engagement and outreach activities, and really position ourselves as being much more inclusive and receptive to the notion that we have elective responsibility here to address these issues of oppression. And because we are architects does not mean the problem lies outside of our industry. We are part of the solution." This and so much more on the changing face of healthcare design on part 2 of today's episode with Roderic Walton. Learn more about Roderic Walton,and Moody Nolan by visiting: http://moodynolan.com/. Read Roderic Walton's white paper entitled, "Equity in Healthcare: Healthcare in Black America, 'Where We Are' The Current State of Healthcare in America." here:  https://www.nomanash.com/healthequity2 and here: https://www.nomanash.com/healthequity3 In Part 2 of Cheryl's conversation with Roderic Walton, they discuss: Roderic specializes in Building Information Modeling (BIM), and utilizing state-of-the-art 3D modeling technology in order to facilitate the production of coordinated and quality controlled deliverables. What is this exactly and how does Moody Nolan use this with their clients to project reliable models and solutions? How does Moody Nolan bring to bear a unique and irreplaceable combination of people, perspective, and process. What makes the firm unique in this way? In Roderic's white paper entitled, "Equity in Healthcare: Healthcare in Black America, 'Where We Are' The Current State of Healthcare in America," (see link in show notes) Roderic talks about solutions. When thinking about the future, Roderic shares how healthcare design and architecture professionals can begin to change entrenched systems that are the source of some of these problems.  What does Roderic mean when he says that we (architects) need to be involved further downstream in the "operation of the spaces we've been involved in designing."  What does Roderic mean when he says, "The community is the healthcare system?" How does Roderic and his team connect the community with the design of a hospital or healthcare space in that community? With almost any complex problem, there are solutions. They range from simple-but-wrong to effective-but-difficult. Roderic unpacks this and gives examples. What are the simple-but-wrong solutions to bias and racism that are most discussed within healthcare architecture? In the past year, have Moody Nolan's hospital partners been open to more change? If so, how? Why is patient-centered care a fundamental right and no longer optional? How can thought leadership in healthcare design be conduits for transformational change? Are there building projects that we can learn from as we work towards a more equitable and inclusive world? What will we see in 50 years if we all work together towards a more equitable future? How can the healthcare design and architecture industry engage and inspire more youth of color to move into this field? What advice does Roderic have for architecture and design students who are interested in healthcare but are also afraid of it? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation with Roderic Walton, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit http://healthcareidpodcast.com. FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

In Part 1 of today's episode, host Cheryl Janis speaks with Sharon Woodworth, FAIA ACHA EDAC LEED, Studio Leader National Healthcare Practice at HED, about Sharon's vast and prolific career in healthcare. Sharon is both a practicing healthcare architect shaping her practice at HED into a national firm, and an associate professor at UCSF teaching healthcare architecture to physicians and nurses who want to be a CEO in healthcare. Sharon is also a Regent for the American College of Healthcare Architects Board, and her background that led to this has evolved out of her experience as a patient throughout her childhood, and later her career as a pediatric and neonatal nurse. On today's episode, you will hear Sharon's personal and professional life stories that have led her to her current work in healthcare, and what the current face of healthcare architecture looks like from her vantage point. Learn more about Sharon Woodworth and HED by visiting https://www.hed.design/ In Part 1 of Cheryl's conversation with Sharon Woodworth they discuss: Sharon has said, "I was born in a hospital and I grew up in a hospital." What does this mean exactly and how did this experience inform Sharon's many careers in healthcare? As a pediatric neonatal nurse for many years, Sharon has said she was gifted with the experience of "seeing behind the curtain." What does this mean? Why did Sharon leave her nursing career and how did she find architecture? When Sharon studied art at the University of Texas, Austin, her art teacher who was also a Yale architecture professor (and the same person who taught Maya Lin the concept of The Scars Upon the Earth) said something to Sharon that would alter the direction of her career. How did Sharon end up in healthcare architecture? When did Sharon realize that making a little change from an architect's perspective can impact thousands of lives? Sharon has worked for various prominent healthcare architecture firms before going solo and then joining up with HED. What lessons has she learned from this time in her life? Sharon is an associate professor at UCSF teaching healthcare architecture to physicians and nurses who want to be a CEO in healthcare. What is this course and how did Sharon end up teaching it? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/. FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

In part 2 of today's episode, Cheryl continues her fascinating conversation with Sharon Woodworth, FAIA ACHA EDAC LEED; Studio Leader National Healthcare Practice at HED. They dive deeper into Sharon's vast and prolific career in healthcare. Sharon is both a practicing healthcare architect shaping her practice at HED into a national firm, and she is an associate professor at UCSF teaching healthcare architecture to physicians and nurses who want to be a CEO in healthcare. Sharon is also a Regent for the American College of Healthcare Architects Board, and her background that led to this has evolved out of her experience as a patient throughout her childhood, and later her career as a pediatric and neonatal nurse. On today's episode, you will hear Sharon's personal and professional life stories that have led her to her current work in healthcare, and what the current face of healthcare architecture looks like from her vantage point. This fascinating interview continues on part 2 of today's show, now available. Learn more about Sharon Woodworth and HED by visiting https://www.hed.design/ In Part 2 of Cheryl's conversation with Sharon Woodworth, they discuss: On Sharon's LinkedIn profile, she writes, "For me, architecture is its most rewarding when I give a little extra back, when I find that little something that wasn't asked for but will make the project that much better no matter how big or small. This is my why." Learn more about what this means to Sharon and the French word she uses to describe it. What does Sharon mean when she says, "Your strength is your weakness and your weakness is your strength." What is it like for Sharon to be the recipient of the Fellow of the American Institute of Architects or FAIA——The highest membership honor given for exceptional work and contributions to architecture and society. What are Sharon's current projects at HED? How is HED adapting to COVID? What does Sharon think hospitals and healthcare facilities will look like in 20 to 30 years? What advice does Sharon have for architecture and design students who are interested in specializing in  healthcare, but are afraid to move in this direction? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation with Sharon Woodworth, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit http://healthcareidpodcast.com. FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

On today's episode, Cheryl interviews Margi Kaminski, ASID, NCIDQ, Director of Health Interiors at the prestigious CannonDesign. Cheryl asks Margi the question, "What was it like to go from being the "boss" of your small firm Quarters Designs for Living Spaces,  to working for the larger more prestigious firms like those you have worked at throughout your career?" Margi's answer to this question was deeply rich and insightful. Lean in and listen to Margi Kaminski's story about what it was like to own and operate a small and successful healthcare and senior living design firm for many years, and then sell that practice to work for some of the largest healthcare architecture and design firms in the country. This, and so much more on the changing face of healthcare design on today's episode. Learn more about Margi Kaminski and CannonDesign by visiting https://www.cannondesign.com/. In Cheryl's conversation with Margi Kaminski, they discuss: What was it like for Margi to go from being the "boss" of her small firm to working for larger firms throughout her career? For over a decade, Margi owned and operated her small firm "Quarters Designs for Living Spaces" which focused on senior living design. What led Margi to sell the business? After selling her business, why did Margi take a four-year sabbatical, and how did she move back into the healthcare design market? What can a small business mind set bring to the larger healthcare design firms Margi has worked for? Why is senior living design a sweet spot for Margi?  What are CannonDesign's current projects and how has the firm adjusted and adapted to post COVID healthcare design? Margi shares her thoughts on the future of healthcare architecture and design. What advice does Margi have for architecture and design students who are considering moving into the field of healthcare but are also afraid of it? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation today with Margi Kaminski, ASID, NCIDQ and Director Healthcare Interiors CannonDesign, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit: http://healthcareidpodcast.com. FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

In today's episode, Cheryl speaks with Barbara Best-Santos, Principal of ForrestPerkins--a Perkins Eastman company. During their conversation, Cheryl asks Barbara the question, "How does having the kind of design expertise and experience in hospitality help you in your healthcare design projects?" To give you a little background, for 20 years Barbara Best-Santos has led the design of boutique and large-scale hotels, spas, restaurants, and resorts! Barbara's answer was inspiring. She shares, "Hospitality can bring the focus to the guest experience and to the guest journey. We can be a little disruptive in the tried and true healthcare interiors focused arena and at the same time we get to collaborate with our partners who are really deep experts in healthcare. So the clients are getting the best of both worlds."  Learn more about the changing face of healthcare and senior living design from someone with decades of experience and understanding of how hospitality design can influence and improve the patient, family, staff and community experience.  Lean more about Barbara Best-Santos and Forrest/Perkins by visiting https://forrestperkins.com/. In Cheryl's conversation with Barbara Best-Santos they discuss: With over 20 years leading the design of boutique and large-scale hotels, spas, restaurants, and resorts, how has Barbara worked on breaking down the borders between hospitality and healthcare design, and hospitality and senior living design? How does Barbara's design expertise and experience in hospitality inform her current work? What was Barbara's role in the MarinHealth hospital project in Marin, California? Barbara's work with a new senior living project with a Zen aesthetic in Healdsburg, California called Enso Village. This project is a collaboration between The Buddhist Center in San Francisco with the senior living group Kendal Corporation whose philosophy of design is based on Quaker ideals. Learn more about Enso Village by visiting: https://enso.kendal.org/. What will healthcare and senior living look like in 30 years from Barbara's perspective? Barbara's advice to interior design students who are interested in healthcare design but are afraid to specialize in it. Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation with Barbara Best-Santos, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit http://healthcareidpodcast.com. The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

In today's episode, Cheryl speaks with Jason Haim, AIA, DBIA, LEED, AP, Executive Director and Managing Principal of Perkins Eastman's L.A. studio. During their conversation, Cheryl asked Jason the question, "What are the Solarium Living Rooms you designed at MarinHealth in Marin, California, and how did you come up with the idea?" Jason shares, "When I was caring for my mother in the hospital, they always wanted her to get up and move around. And these corridors were a horrible experience. There wasn't a place to go. And while at another hospital, I noticed that there were more people in the lobby that had IV poles attached to them, than those entering the building." Learn how Jason and his team at Perkins Eastman solved this problem at MarinHealth by creating five indoor/outdoor spaces called Solarium Living Rooms. This and so much more on the changing face of healthcare architecture and design post COVID on today's episode with Jason Haim. Learn more about Jason Haim and Perkins Eastman by visiting https://www.perkinseastman.com/ In Cheryl's conversation with Jason Haim they discuss: Jason has said, "If you're not innovating, you're done." What does this mean exactly, and how does this idea apply to Jason's recent project at MarinHealth Medical Center Oak Pavilion in Marin, California? What is family-centered care and how did this philosophy apply to Jason's project with Perkins Eastman at MarinHealth? Why did Jason want to make MarinHealth feel more like a hotel? How did Jason and his team at Perkins Eastman come up with the idea of Solarium Living Rooms and how were they installed at MarinHealth? What is Design-Build and how is it affecting the healthcare design industry today? When Jason was 8-years old, he and his Dad built Jason's first tree house. What was that time like for Jason and how did it influence his career? What is the future of healthcare in Jason's opinion? Jason answers the question, "Has COVID forever changed hospitals and the design of healthcare spaces?" The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/ FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.

On today's episode, Cheryl interviews Holly Harris, Architect, AIA, NCARB, LEED AP BD-C at SmithGroup. Holly, at age 28, holds the honor of being our youngest guest on the show to date, and she shares her perspective on healthcare architecture and design in today's world.  Cheryl asks Holly the question, "Many interior design and interior architect students have been known to shy away from specializing in healthcare because they see it as unsexy and boring. What do you say to that and what would you say to them?" Holly's answer was inspiring. She quickly responded with, "If you don't like what you've experienced or have seen in the world, then you could be the one to change it." Cheryl knew right then and there, she was speaking to a next generation leader in this industry. Holly shares her perspective on the changing face of healthcare architecture and design, and so much more on today's episode of the podcast. Learn more about Holly Harris and SmithGroup by visiting https://www.smithgroup.com/ or reach out to Holly directly via her LinkedIn page: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hollymharris/ In Cheryl's conversation with Holly Harris, they discuss: What is it like to be a young 28 year old healthcare architect in today's world, and what differences in perspective does being young offer to the field? How "seeing behind the curtain" in a surgery suite in a hospital opened Holly's eyes to empathy in healthcare. How did Holly end up in healthcare architecture at such a young age? The scope and some of the intricate details of SmithGroups' Northwestern Memorial Hospital project in Chicago. What it was like to work on an 80,000 square foot renovation and addition at this NMH. What's it like for Holly to serve as the Co-Chair of the AIA Chicago Healthcare Knowledge Community and program, executing educational and networking events for the membership? For 2021-2022, Holly will be serving as the Young Architect Regional Director (YARD) for AIA IL. Learn more about YARD and what Holly will be doing in this new role What's it like for Holly to work on large healthcare projects with more seasoned colleagues? Is there conflict or is the process generous in sharing and learning? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/.   Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/   Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation with Holly Harris, AIA, NCARB, LEED AP BD-C at SmithGroup, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit: http://healthcareidpodcast.com. FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention. Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation today with Holly Harris, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit http://healthcareidpodcast.com.

Jenny Hastings, Principal at Boulder Associates Architects is Cheryl's guest today on the podcast. Cheryl asks Jenny the question, "How has the pandemic affected Lean Management Practices in your firm?" Jenny begins, "We have projects that are speeding up, some that are slowing down. Some projects that will go on hold one week and then pick up the next, and I hear this from friends at other firms." Learn more about Lean Management philosophies and trying to work smarter and more efficiently during this time of the pandemic and moving forward on today's episode of podcast. Learn more about Jenny Hastings and Boulder Associates Architects by visiting: https://www.boulderassociates.com/. In Cheryl's conversation with Jenny Hastings, they discuss: How Jenny and Boulder Associates responded to the pandemic and what it was like during those first few months of the crisis. What are the biggest changes Boulder Associates is seeing? How has the pandemic affected BA's Lean Management Practices? How working from home has created more connectivity among BA's team. Why Jenny feels an intense obligation in this work to patients and their families. Who was the researcher BA brought in to the firm that Jenny has worked closely with through an entity the firm calls Examine? What is Examine? One of BA's cancer center projects where patients helped the firm in the design of the center, and what the firm learned. What does Jenny mean when she says, "You can design the perfect environment but if the process doesn't support that environment, then it's not going to work?" Can patient-centered design still be a focus with infectious disease control on the minds of so many? How did Jenny end up in healthcare design? The world is changing quickly. The Center for Health Design is committed to providing the healthcare design and senior living design industries with the latest research, best practices and innovations. The Center can help you solve today's biggest healthcare challenges and make a difference in care, safety, medical outcomes, and the bottom line.  Find out more at healthdesign.org. Additional support for this podcast comes from our industry partners: The American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design Learn more about how to become a Certified Healthcare Interior Designer®  by visiting the American Academy of Healthcare Interior Designers at: https://aahid.org/. Connect to a community interested in supporting clinician involvement in design and construction of the built environment by visiting The Nursing Institute for Healthcare Design at https://www.nursingihd.com/. Thank you for listening to today's episode of Healthcare Interior Design 2.0. If you enjoyed any part of Cheryl's conversation with Jenny Hastings, Principal at Boulder Associates Architects, please help our podcast grow by spreading the good word on social media and with your online community. Stay safe and be well. For the full roster of shows, visit: http://healthcareidpodcast.com. FEATURED PRODUCT Inspired by the properties of photocatalytic materials, Porcelanosa has evolved their KRION® Solid Surface material called K-LIFE. When K-LIFE comes into contact with light, it will be able to purify the air, expel harmful bacteria, and more. K-LIFE can easily be integrated into many applications – from wall coverings and claddings for ceilings, to custom tables, bars, sinks, shelving units and furniture. The application of K-LIFE in areas with high daily traffic, such as waiting rooms or reception areas, can assure a gradual decontamination of germs and lead to ongoing ecological benefits. Some research performed with KRION® K-LIFE, which has photocatalytic properties, proved that the material can significantly reduce the presence of bacteria. This revolutionary process has led to a patent pending, innovative, and exclusive product that will have a direct effect on our quality of life. Watch the video on KRION Natural Infection Prevention.