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Healthcare UX
by Kelly Smith
Interviews with the designers, researchers, and product leaders shaping digital health — from patient apps and clinician tools to the EHRs everyone loves to hate. Good design in healthcare has to survive what consumer products never face: regulation, clinical workflows, patient safety, and the competing needs of everyone in the room. Each episode is a focused conversation with someone doing that work — one guest, one topic, one close look at where the way a system is built collides with what the people who use it actually need. Patients, clinicians, caregivers. Real people, not just users. Whether you already work in healthcare UX or you're trying to break into it, this show is about learning the craft: how experienced designers navigate the constraints, what they've shipped, what they've had to concede, and what they wish the field would finally fix. Every conversation ends the same way — with the one fix our guest is tired of waiting for. Hosted by Kelly Smith. Find more at kellys
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Unlearning UX: Designing for Safety, Comfort, and Trust with Anna Oh
Anna Oh is Head of Product & Design at Norbert Health, where she leads design on a robotic remote-patient-monitoring platform for seniors in nursing homes — working directly with patients and nursing staff.We discuss how Anna had to unlearn traditional UX frameworks when designing for nursing home residents, especially those with dementia. We talk about the evolution of the face of Norbert and how user preferences trumped designers’ tastes. And we chat about why it is essential for these nursing home residents to accept the robot through a sense of trust, comfort, and safety.“There are moments when what the person really needs is another human being. That’s why we don’t think about the robot as replacing nurses.” —Anna OhBe sure to check out Anna’s Config 2026 talk.Anna’s website: annaohgood.comConfig talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGQEbwm6yc8Hosted by Kelly Smith. Find more at kellysmith.me/healthcareux.
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Health AI for the People the System Leaves Out with Smit Doshi
Most health-AI conversations are about what to build. This one is mostly about what not to. Smit Doshi spent a decade leading global IT before helping build MyHappy.Health — a free, voice-first AI health companion that works in more than two dozen languages, made for people who often have never seen a doctor and have no second opinion to fall back on.That constraint sits at the center of the conversation: when your user has no other option, a confident wrong answer isn't a bug, it's a danger. Smit walks through why his team built a working anemia screener and then left it deliberately switched off, why the assistant greets people as Sam or Maya instead of a chat box, why they refuse to collect user data even though it would make the product better, and why the feel-good promise that "AI will give everyone a doctor" is the story he'd push back on hardest."A confident wrong answer or a hallucination from AI can harm or kill someone. And that's the risk that I don't wanna take — not just for myself, but for humankind." -Smit DoshiConnect with Smit DoshiLinkedInMy Happy HealthHosted by Kelly Smith. Find more at kellysmith.me/healthcareux.
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Design Above the Interface with Justin Ranton
I talk with Justin Ranton, who designs clinical AI at SmarterDX, about why the decisions that determine whether an AI product works happen upstream of the interface — not on the screen. We get into why a clearer, more convincing explanation can make a clinical AI more dangerous rather than safer; why a responsible output should keep clinicians checking instead of accepting; and where design ends and informatics and engineering begin. Along the way: automation bias, the risk hiding in tools that feel effortless, and the genomics dashboard he built on his own DNA."You could redesign that screen in theory forever. Better hierarchy, better typography, better empty states, and the reviewer is still going to do the same cognitive work. So when we think about designing above the interface, what that means is the decision. We move it upstream into what the structure is, what the model is asked to produce, what shape the output has to take, what counts as a complete explanation." —Justin RantonYou can find Justin on LinkedInhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jwranton/Hosted by Kelly Smith. Find more at kellysmith.me/healthcareux.
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Why Healthcare UX is Different, Not Just Harder
In the debut episode of Healthcare UX, I’m chatting with Eric Shumake, founder of HXR Labs, who's spent 20+ years in healthcare UX research. His core argument: healthcare UX isn't regular UX with extra rules — it's a different discipline entirely, one where lives, careers, and lawsuits are on the line, not a pizza delivered to the wrong address. We dig into why clinicians are "trained out of" the very empathy designers are trained into (and how to bridge that gap), the real stakeholder hierarchy that decides what actually ships — legal, then revenue, then physicians, with designers near the bottom — and the alert-fatigue and "AI hangover" risks of bolting AI onto clinical workflows."Clinicians do not hate empathy. They just have a very different definition of it. The empathy we're trained into as designers is what clinicians are trained out of." -Eric ShumakeEric also makes the case that career-changers' prior experience is an asset, not a liability, and that the fastest way into the field is to stop waiting and build something real.You can find Eric at:Website https://www.hxrlabs.comLinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericshumake/Hosted by Kelly Smith. Find more at kellysmith.me/healthcareux.
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Interviews with the designers, researchers, and product leaders shaping digital health — from patient apps and clinician tools to the EHRs everyone loves to hate.Good design in healthcare has to survive what consumer products never face: regulation, clinical workflows, patient safety, and the competing needs of everyone in the room. Each episode is a focused conversation with someone doing that work — one guest, one topic, one close look at where the way a system is built collides with what the people who use it actually need. Patients, clinicians, caregivers. Real people, not just users.Whether you already work in healthcare UX or you're trying to break into it, this show is about learning the craft: how experienced designers navigate the constraints, what they've shipped, what they've had to concede, and what they wish the field would finally fix. Every conversation ends the same way — with the one fix our guest is tired of waiting for.Hosted by Kelly Smith. Find more at kellysmith.me/healthcareux.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Interviews with the designers, researchers, and product leaders shaping digital health — from patient apps and clinician tools to the EHRs everyone loves to hate. Good design in healthcare has to survive what consumer products never face: regulation, clinical workflows, patient safety, and the competing needs of everyone in the room. Each episode is a focused conversation with someone doing that work — one guest, one topic, one close look at where the way a system is built collides with what the people who use it actually need. Patients, clinicians, caregivers. Real people, not just users. Whether you already work in healthcare UX or you're trying to break into it, this show is about learning the craft: how experienced designers navigate the constraints, what they've shipped, what they've had to concede, and what they wish the field would finally fix. Every conversation ends the same way — with the one fix our guest is tired of waiting for. Hosted by Kelly Smith. Find more at kellys
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