PODCAST · society
Heart & Soul with David Leser
by Shark Island Sessions
Heart & Soul begins with the simple belief that beneath our opinions, accomplishments and public identities, there is an inner life asking to be heard.At a time of profound uncertainty and rapid change, Heart & Soul offers a place for spacious, thoughtful conversation with people who have deeply impacted our lives, as well as an opportunity to reflect more deeply on what it means to be human.A series of conversations with journalist and author David Leser, that delve deeply into some of the themes crying out for our attention, not the least being how to find empathy in an age of outrage.These will be unhurried conversations. No real agenda. No fixed destination. Simply a shared willingness to get curious, to speak honestly and to listen deeply.These intimate conversations are filmed and recorded in front of a small, invited audience at The Old Store in Kangaroo Valley, NSW AUSTRALIA.
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Jennifer Byrne: When Mother Breaks the Rules there’s No Stopping You
HEART & SOUL with DAVID LESER Ep 3 Jennifer Byrne: When Mother Breaks the Rules There’s No Stopping You Starting her career in journalism at sixteen, Jennifer Byrne broke the mould of what women in her family were expected to do in life. Stories from a privileged childhood, a devastating family scandal, the Packer media empire and journalism in its heyday, Jennifer also opens up about falling in love on the phone and the joys of travel — even to outer space. About the guest Jennifer Byrne is one of Australia’s most respected journalists and broadcasters and has worked across print, radio and television for more than half a century. Following her cadetship at The Age, she worked in Fleet Street in London and in San Francisco as the Age’s correspondent before returning to Australia to join Channel Nine’s Sunday program. She then spent some 12 years travelling the world for 60 Minutes and, later, as anchor for Foreign Correspondent. In her glittering career, Jennifer has also been Publishing Director of Reed Books, morning presenter on ABC radio, and won national awards for her journalism. In May 2006, she returned to television to create the country’s first televised book club, which found a loyal audience and ran on the ABC for 11 years. More recently, she was the host of the Australian version of Mastermind and its celebrity edition. Credits Host: David Leser — Director: Ian Darling — Camera and lights: Ben Cunningham, Harry Kielly, Tiernan Rennie — Sound: Mary Macrae — Front of House: Sarah Butler — Photography: Harry Kielly — Editors: Sally Fryer and Harry Kielly
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Ben Quilty: Problems to Solve — not People to Kill
HEART & SOUL with DAVID LESER Ep 2 Ben Quilty: Problems to Solve, Not People to Kill Ben Quilty on love, masculinity, anxiety and the power of kindness. This wide-ranging conversation delves into the art and passions of Ben Quilty, also his friendship with Bali Nine prisoner-turned-artist Myuran Sukumarun, as well as the silence surrounding abuse during his schooling years. A visual artist always asking the ‘why’, Quilty is candid about the ‘unknowingness’ of creating and the cultural importance of art. About the guest Ben Quilty is one of Australia’s most celebrated artists whose work continues to draw critical acclaim, both nationally and internationally. Quilty won the Doug Moran National Portrait Prize in 2009 and was runner up in the 2009 Archibald Prize with his portrait of singer Jimmy Barnes. In 2011 he won the Archibald for his portrait of artist, Margaret Olley. That same year he travelled to Afghanistan as an official war artist with The Australian War Memorial. In 2016, he was invited by World Vision Australia to travel to Greece, Serbia and Lebanon with author, Richard Flanagan, to witness — and document — firsthand the international refugee crisis. His work is represented in numerous major public, corporate and private collections including the National Gallery of Australia, Art Gallery of New South Wales, Art Gallery of South Australia, National Gallery of Victoria and QAGOMA. Credits Host: David Leser — Director: Ian Darling — Camera and lights: Ben Cunningham, Harry Kielly, Tiernan Rennie — Sound: Mary Macrae — Front of House: Sarah Butler — Photography: Harry Kielly — Editors: Sally Fryer and Harry Kielly
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Jennifer Robinson: Living in the Age of Consequences
Jennifer Robinson speaks about some of her most famous cases and clients — including Julian Assange and Amber Heard - shares insights from her Grandmother and talks about Silenced, the film adaptation of her book, and how achieving change can take a lifetime.
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Trailer: Heart & Soul with David Leser
HEART & SOUL WITH DAVID LESER Featuring Jennifer Robinson, Ben Quilty, Jennifer Byrne, Deborah Thomas, Geraldine Brooks, Bob Carr, Benjamin Law, Jess Hill, and Rob Hirst in his final interview Heart & Soul with David Leser is a filmed and recorded interview series for YouTube and podcast audiences that explores the seminal experiences shaping the interior world of some remarkable Australians. These thoughtful, multi-layered conversations delve into universal themes of courage, creativity, grief, loss, mortality and what gives our lives purpose and meaning. Created and produced by Shark Island Productions and conceived and directed by award-winning documentary filmmaker Ian Darling, together with host and award-winning journalist David Leser, the series premieres on Monday 24 August 2026. These are conversations we rarely hear from people we think we know. “Heart & Soul begins with the simple belief that beneath our opinions, accomplishments and public identities, there is an inner life asking to be heard. These will be unhurried conversations. No real agenda. No fixed destination. Simply a shared willingness to get curious, to speak honestly and to listen deeply.” — David Leser “For more than 25 years, Shark Island Productions has been telling stories through documentary film. With Shark Island Sessions, we’ve created a place for artists, audiences and ideas to come together. We believe stories, conversation, art and music can spark curiosity, deepen human connection and help us make sense of the world around us.” — Ian Darling The inaugural season features internationally renowned human rights lawyer Jennifer Robinson; Archibald Prize-winning artist Ben Quilty; journalist, broadcaster and publisher Jennifer Byrne; businesswoman and former editor-in-chief of the Australian Women’s Weekly Deborah Thomas; Pulitzer Prize-winning author Geraldine Brooks; former Foreign Minister and NSW Premier Bob Carr; author, journalist and screenwriter Benjamin Law; award-winning investigative journalist and author Jess Hill; and a special conversation with Midnight Oil co-founder and drummer Rob Hirst, recorded just months before his death in 2026. Episode 1: Jennifer Robinson reflects on justice, family, women’s rights, climate advocacy, high profile clients such as Julian Assange and Amber Heard, and the responsibility of being in service to others. Her life and work are featured in the documentary Silenced, released in Australian cinemas from 3 September 2026. Episode 2: Ben Quilty grapples with themes around art, love, masculinity, anxiety, empathy, creativity and the enduring power of kindness. Episode 3: Jennifer Byrne reflects on her remarkable family, her storied career in print, radio and television journalism, and a life shaped by privilege, curiosity, ambition and a fierce independence. Episode 4: Rob Hirst’s Final Interview In one of the season’s most significant conversations, Midnight Oil co-founder and drummer Rob Hirst offers final reflections on music, songwriting, family, friendship, mortality and gratitude. Recorded just months before his death in 2026, the conversation stands as a rare and deeply personal portrait of one of Australia’s most important cultural figures. Episode 5: Deborah Thomas delves into a life informed by fashion, music, magazines, leadership, the power of friendship and a remarkable resilience in the face of tragedy. Episode 6: Geraldine Brooks reflects on her extraordinary career as a journalist, foreign correspondent and author, while also plumbing the depths of memory, grief and what it means to love well. Episode 7: Bob Carr reveals a life devo...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Heart & Soul begins with the simple belief that beneath our opinions, accomplishments and public identities, there is an inner life asking to be heard.At a time of profound uncertainty and rapid change, Heart & Soul offers a place for spacious, thoughtful conversation with people who have deeply impacted our lives, as well as an opportunity to reflect more deeply on what it means to be human.A series of conversations with journalist and author David Leser, that delve deeply into some of the themes crying out for our attention, not the least being how to find empathy in an age of outrage.These will be unhurried conversations. No real agenda. No fixed destination. Simply a shared willingness to get curious, to speak honestly and to listen deeply.These intimate conversations are filmed and recorded in front of a small, invited audience at The Old Store in Kangaroo Valley, NSW AUSTRALIA.
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