PODCAST · sports
Herm & Schrader
by SiriusXM, Dirty Mo Media
Epically historic. Occasionally irreverent. Always hilarious. Never – and we mean never – giving a single solitary damn about anything but racing, drinking beer and telling stories, some even true. What else would you expect from a show with Kenny Wallace and Ken Schrader, the charismatic, fan-favorite, midwestern buddies who are still gettin’ it done on racetracks near you. On this show, Wallace and Schrader chime in on current events, rehash old stories from their NASCAR careers and engage in conversations that have always been private … until now. Be forewarned – the two Kennys play by nobody’s rules. They say what they want. They do what they do. They are what they are.
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Did Denny Hamlin's Words Change Hocevar's Driving?
Eighteen cautions, four-wide into turn one on a flat mile, brakes going away everywhere you looked – and at the end of it Kyle Larson breaks a 51-race drought on four fresh tires while Joey Logano sits there with two. The guys agree last weekend was one of the best races they've seen at the track -- and they'd tell you if it wasn't.NASCAR's TV viewership is up almost every week this year, and Herm, Schrader get into why – shocker – they’re crediting a lot to Carson Hocevar stirring things up and a new generation of drivers who don't hold anything back. There’s also the entertainment side of things and tracks like Worldwide Technology figuring out that a race weekend has to be a show, not just a race, the guys break down why that might matter as much as who wins. Also this week: we’re wondering what Denny Hamlin said to Carson Hocevar before the race and if it changed his driving in St. Louis, and taking a look at the messy logistics and possibility of Dodge getting back into The Cup Series. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Why Dale Earnhardt Sr. Called Michael Waltrip a 'Tough Sumbitch'
Michael Waltrip sits down with Kenny Wallace for one of the most honest conversations of his career. They go all the way back to Owensboro, Kentucky, where a broke kid with a borrowed go-kart ended up crashing on Kyle Petty's basement floor, then Richard Petty's guest room, just trying to find a way into NASCAR. From there it's one wild story after another: the horrifying 1990 Bristol wreck that left him standing next to a mangled car with his feet on the ground, the Dale Earnhardt friendship that turned into a Cup team, and the commercials that made him one of the most beloved characters the sport has ever se en.But this isn't just a highlight reel — it's Mikey getting real about the losses that gutted him, the brother who cast a long shadow, and how he turned "broke as a joke" into two Daytona 500 trophies and three decades on Fox. If you only know him as the goofy guy from the booth, this conversation will change that. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Schrader's Fed Up with Hocevar
This week on Herm & Schrader, we breakdown Christopher Bell's big win at Darlington to kick off the Chase for the Championship. Carson Hocevar's at it again, this week with Brad Keselowski. What's different this time and why has Schrader finally had enough? And, Josh Berry has found his new home with Legacy Motor Club. We went straight to the source with the Wood Brothers to find out what went wrong and why everything seems to be going so good right now. Questions, questions, they'll all be answered on this week's Herm & Schrader. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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He Lost His Arm, His Legs, and Almost His Life — Then Rebuilt It All
Darrell Gwynn was one of the fastest men in drag racing — until one crash changed everything. He lost his arm. He lost the use of his legs. But somehow, he didn't lose himself. This week, Kenny Wallace sits down with the NHRA legend for a conversation that goes way beyond racing. Gwynn opens up about the wreck that ended his career, the outpouring of support from the NASCAR and racing world that got him through it, and how he turned tragedy into a mission — becoming a car owner and a lifeline for others living with paralysis through his philanthropic work. Then the guys get into some of the nuances of drag racing, why motorsports struggle to get butts in the seats, and whether racing as a whole needs to get a lot more entertaining if it wants to survive. Gwynn also pulls back the curtain on his new book, Fortunate Son — stacked with never-before-seen photos that sent him straight down memory lane. In his words: "The book isn't a racing book; it's a book about a racer." Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Wins over Consistency, Did Mark Martin Get it Right?
This week on Herm & Schrader, Ryan Preece's walk-off Daytona win to punch his ticket into the Chase, and trying to decipher on what the Wood Brothers meant about Josh Berry with a message that could have been a ‘backhanded compliment.’ They then turn to how Mark Martin’s ‘campaign’ to reward consistency over wins knocked SVG out of the Chase. The guys are also trying to figure out why Jimmie Johnson picked this moment to finally say something about Carson Hocevar with a post on X both complimenting – and criticizing Number 77 – and then, almost like he read it, Hocevar wrecked with 5 laps to go. The conversation turns to Denny Hamlin’s first-place-finish in the regular season and for the first time since the Chase began, NASCAR didn't give him a trophy for it -- so the Denny Bros 3D printed him one instead. Plus, a quick conversation as to whether or not Cleetus McFarland is actually ready for the Gateway Dome Nationals in St. Louis, Tom Cruise is back in the garage as Days of Thunder 2 looks like it might actually be happening, and of course the guys end the show on a high note with junky jokes. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Pit Reporter, Host, Radio Voice — Danielle Trotta Has Done It All
Two old FOX Sports colleagues, one wide-ranging conversation about NASCAR, media, and everything in between. Kenny Wallace sits down with Danielle Trotta — pit reporter, host, radio voice, and one of the most versatile names in NASCAR media — to swap stories from their days working together, and dig into how she built a career that touches every corner of the broadcast. Pre-race, post-race, in the pits, on the radio — Trotta's done it all and talks about how she broke into the business and what it actually takes to cover this sport. Plus: her take on how TV can do a better job showcasing NASCAR for the fans watching at home. It's a Kenny Conversation full of insider stories and the kind of behind-the-scenes talk you won't get anywhere else. This episode originally aired on 09/10/24. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Ford’s Closing the Gap on Toyota, but will it last?
Ryan Blaney just put another Ford in Victory Lane at New Hampshire and it's starting to feel like a pattern. Herm and Schrader break down whether the Blue Ovals are actually closing the gap on Toyota, or if it’s all track-dependent? Speaking of Fast Fords, Josh Berry is on fire as of late and driving like he has something to prove -- so why does he not have a ride for 2027? And to wrap it up: IndyCar just ran through the streets of Washington DC, and now everyone's asking the obvious question — could NASCAR be next? Herm and Schrader weigh in on whether a street race in the nation's capital is realistic and whether or not more street courses are what NASCAR needs. All these questions and more will be asked and answered on this week's Herm & Schrader. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Kaitlyn Vincie: Grassroots Racing To Network TV
Two former TV colleagues get together to talk all things NASCAR. Originally airing on 10/1/24, the episode features Kaitlyn Vincie sharing her journey from local track host to FOX TV pit reporter. The story of how she got her job is amazing—and she’s into a lot more than just racing. From writing a novel to hosting short-term vacation rentals in the mountains, Vincie is a jack-of-all-trades. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Was Knoxville Delayed So Kyle Larson Could Make It?
This week on Herm & Schrader, our old friend Rick Mast is back to fill in for Schrader. The guys take a look at Joey Logano's win at Richmond and how he's positioning himself for a run at a fourth Cup title. Meanwhile, last year's champion Kyle Larson jetted off to Knoxville after Richmond and captured Sprint Car racing's ultimate prize. But was the race unfairly delayed so he could get there? And, Cleetus McFarland made his Late Model debut at Berlin in front of a standing-room-only crowd for three race nights. Why do the fans love Cleetus so much, and could more stock car racing be in his future? These questions and more will be answered this week by Herm & Mast. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Jonathan Davenport: Dirt Racing’s Superman
He’s one of the all-time great dirt racers. Some people call him “JD” or “Superman.” But his real name is Jonathan Davenport. Originally airing 06/21/23 Kenny & Jonathan discuss the real dirt of dirt racing. Davenport explains how he’s shifted his entire racing strategy to focus on the big money races at Eldora. Why his career also took off thanks to a pair of glasses. And does every dirt racer really wanna go NASCAR? Wallace & JD discuss it all! Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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The Two-Tire Gamble That Cost Christopher Bell The Iowa Win
This week on Herm & Schrader, we look back on Ty Gibbs' slick two-tire move to take the Iowa win over Christopher Bell, but will new pavement make for better racing next year? The 2027 Cup schedule keeps slowly trickling out. What tracks are in and which are out when it's all said and done? And, Carson Kvapil goes from winless to winning two in a row...could Kid Kvapil be a dark horse for the O'Reilly Series title? These questions and more will all be answered on this week's Herm & Schrader. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Jamie Little: Rewriting The Rules Of Racing Television
Originally airing 2/21/24, this Kenny Conversation with Jamie Little covers every corner of motorsports. Jamie shares her journey from being a young teenager in Las Vegas, whose fascination with motocross led to opportunities across the X Games, NASCAR, and IndyCar. Hear the story about how she managed to land a pit reporter role with ESPN during their launch of NASCAR coverage, and how she approached her boss at FOX about spending some seat time as a play-by-play announcer. Jamie also shares how she's led a balanced lifestyle and continued to prioritize her family and physical fitness even with a hectic travel schedule. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Is NASCAR On A Ventilator? A Current Cup Driver Thinks So
Even without any racing in NASCAR's Big 3 series over the weekend, we still have lots to talk about. One of the biggest controversies currently circulating: Carson Hocevar's recent comments stating NASCAR is on a ventilator and asleep at the wheel. Both Herm and Schrader have strong opinions about those statements. The next discussion gets everyone fired up: is the season too long...are the races too long... and would shortening both create more interest? IHRA created a lot of buzz in the offseason by buying tracks and series, but recently canceled the remainder of their racing season. Could IHRA's trouble spell the end for Rockingham? We wrap up with our famous junky jokes! Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Six Titles and Erica Enders Still Has Something to Prove
Few drivers have dominated the drag strip like Erica Enders. Originally airing 4/16/24, the 6-time NHRA Pro Stock World Champion joins Kenny Wallace for an awesome conversation about her amazing career. From her groundbreaking success as one of the sport’s greatest female racers to the mindset that keeps her chasing championships year after year. Being a woman in a man’s world isn’t easy. She’s had to deal with criticism and setbacks, but in the end Erica Enders got the last laugh. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Heim vs. Hocevar - Is The Media To Blame For This Rivalry?
Corey Heim delivers again...this time at Indianapolis, winning one of NASCAR's signature events in just his 15th Cup start. Just how good will he be when he actually goes Cup racing full-time? Nobody could pass Heim at Indy...or anyone for that matter. The fellas debate what can be done to help the Cup cars put on better races at the Brickyard? After Carson Kvapil got his first O'Reilly Series win, Herm gives his take on why it made Dale Jr. so emotional. Plus, Layne Riggs dominates at IRP, are we seeing the birth of NASCAR's newest star? Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Geoff Bodine: Surviving The Worst Crash In NASCAR History
Originally airing on February 13, 2024, Geoff Bodine joins Kenny Wallace for a discussion that spans one of NASCAR’s most remarkable careers. Bodine takes us from his hard-nosed Modified roots to winning the Daytona 500 and helping change the sport with groundbreaking safety innovations. He opens up about his fierce rivalry with Dale Earnhardt made famous in “Days of Thunder,” racing for some of the sport’s biggest teams, and surviving one of the most terrifying crashes in NASCAR history. Geoff also discusses one of his greatest feats, helping the USA Olympic bobsled team, by building sleds made right here in the USA. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Can the Toddfather Pull off Another Upset?
This week on Herm & Schrader, the guys break down everything from NASCAR's return to points racing at North Wilkesboro Speedway. Joey Logano has been quiet in 2026, but Sunday night gave a reminder of what he’s capable of when things click. The fellas also dig into fan attendance: does a packed Wilkesboro crowd hit differently than a bigger, more spread-out showing at a track like Indianapolis? Who's feeling the most pressure right now - Alex Bowman, Josh Berry, or someone else? Plus, Kenny predicts whether Todd Gilliland is the underdog capable of spoiling everyone's brackets for the mid-season challenge. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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William Byron: How I Proved Jeff Gordon Wrong
Originally airing on March 1, 2024, fresh off his first Daytona 500 win, William Byron joins Kenny Conversation for an honest discussion about his rise from sim racing to becoming one of the sport’s top drivers. William shares his earliest interactions with Rick Hendrick and Jeff Gordon, including which of the two initially doubted his abilities. Kenny presses Byron on his evolving relationship with crew chief Rudy Fugle, and William shares why he spends more time at the Hendrick garage than any other HMS driver. Plus, Kenny brings out Byron’s personal side with stories about family, faith, and Legos...all things that help him stay grounded while competing at NASCAR’s highest level Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Sometimes It's Nice To Have Friends
This week on Herm & Schrader, Rick Mast is back and joins Herm as the relief co-host while Schrader races in Iowa. They break down Atlanta as Ryan Blaney dominated his way to victory lane. Meanwhile, Carson Hocevar is still trying to figure out why he got hung out to dry...why can't Carson seem to find any friends on track? Does it really matter? The fellas discuss. And there were lots of bent fenders and bruised egos following the Truck action at Lime Rock and the O'Reilly Series in Atlanta, which drivers stood out from the crowd? Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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What Cleetus McFarland Learned From Greg Biffle
The man, the myth, the legend...Cleetus McFarland is the latest guest on Kenny Conversation! Kenny and Cleetus dive headfirst into just about everything—from the controversial (yes, they’re talking about the decline of Mountain Dew) to the hilarious (Kenny’s performance in the Freedom 500 gets put under the microscope), and everything in between. Expect laughs, cameos, and plenty of unexpected tangents. Of course, it wouldn’t be a true Cleetus episode without some surprise guest appearances—Squirrel McNutt and Mr. Sam pop in to make sure things stay Kenny-level chaotic. But it’s not all laughs—there are some real, raw moments too. Cleetus and Kenny open up about the impact of losing close friends and mentors like Kyle Loftis and Greg Biffle, sharing honest reflections on what Biffle taught them both. They also get into Cleetus’ journey into aviation—how it all started, what drew him to the skies, and what flying means to him today. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Does NASCAR Need to Reign Toyota In?
This week on Herm & Schrader, Herm's back and we've got lots to catch up on. Chicagoland Speedway is back too, with an explosive return over 4th of July weekend capped off by two great finishes. Will this be a one-off revival, or could Chicagoland make a return appearance to the schedule in 2027? Toyota continued its domination of the Cup Series with Chase Briscoe's first win of the season - the fellas debate if Toyota's purported advantage is unfair and if NASCAR should rein them in. Will Brad Keselowski's pointed challenge to Ford and Chevy spark a turnaround for the manufacturers? Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Terry Phillips: Missouri Racing Royalty
This week, Kenny Conversation features a pair of childhood friends reconnecting after a long time apart. Kenny Wallace and Terry Phillips grew up together at race tracks around Missouri, with Kenny learning from his brother Rusty, and Terry being under the tutelage of his father Larry. Now, both of their mentors are solidified in the NASCAR Hall of Fame, as Larry was finally elected this year after a long wait. But his son, Terry, also carved out his own racing legacy, becoming one of the best dirt racers of all-time and a Hall of Famer in his own right. This is a discussion about racing, from the Ozarks all the way to NASCAR. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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We've Never Seen Anything Like This
Kenny Wallace is feeling a little under the weather, but don’t worry—the reliever is in! Rick Mast steps back into the booth alongside Schrader to break down all the action from Sonoma. And yes… surprise, surprise—SVG is back in victory lane yet again, delivering another masterclass with his signature fancy footwork on full display. The fellas debate what his win means and what we can learn from it. Meanwhile, while some are calling Toyota the dominant force of 2026, we dig into the facts and cut through the noise—reminding everyone just how razor-thin the line really is between winning and losing. And to top it all off, NASCAR is headed back to Chicagoland Speedway! Is this the start of something big, or will Chicagoland become just another relic of NASCAR's past? Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Ryan Blaney: The Newest Face of NASCAR?
In this Kenny Conversation, which originally aired on January 17, 2024, defending Cup Series Champion Ryan Blaney joins Kenny to discuss his rise through the ranks of NASCAR. Ryan shares stories of his upbringing and how both his father and grandfather left indelible marks on his childhood. Now a very successful driver for a powerhouse organization in Team Penske, Ryan and Kenny talk about his desire to complete his career driving for The Captain. Where does Ryan see NASCAR trending, and how can he help grow the sport and take it to new heights? All that and more on this week's Kenny Conversation as we rewind the clock back to 2024! Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Heim Time in San Diego
With Herm on vacation this week, we've brought in our ace reliever, Rick Mast, to break down all things San Diego with Schrader. With young talent Corey Heim securing the win, is it too early to start predicting his future Cup Series success? The weekend at Naval Base Coronado was a perfect celebration of racing and patriotism, so could a return trip be on deck for 2027? And after another win in the Truck Series for Layne Riggs, is Front Row Motorsports ready to take the next step? Plus, we remember Steve Wade, a legendary motorsports journalist who helped shape early coverage of NASCAR. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Karsyn Elledge: More Than Just Her Last Name
You’ve heard her on Door Bumper Clear & Rare Breeds, but now you get the full story! Karsyn Elledge joins Kenny Wallace this week for a fun conversation about racing, life, and growing up as part of the most famous family in racing. She explains the family dynamic of being both an Earnhardt and an Elledge, and how her relationship with Dale Jr. has evolved over the years. Karsyn has done basically every job in the racing world and brings that unique perspective to each topic. Kenny and Karsyn also discuss the future of women in NASCAR and which female driver might be the breakout star that could reach the Cup Series one day. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Who's The Hottest Driver In NASCAR?
Herm & Schrader are back home and trying to figure out if anyone can beat Denny Hamlin or Justin Allgaier? The Cup Series had another sellout at Pocono... and the fellas debate if NASCAR's ability to shift the race start time was influenced by broadcasting on a streaming platform like Amazon Prime. NASCAR heads west to San Diego this weekend, what can we expect from an entirely new road course? Plus, Schrader delivers some of the best jokes in H&S history! Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Matt Weaver: The Saga of Saving Nashville Fairgrounds
Kenny Wallace caused some controversy regarding the Nashville Fairgrounds, and now he's explaining himself to legendary motorsports journalist Matt Weaver! Weaver joins the show to discuss what's really going on with the historic racetrack and its future as a potential NASCAR venue. There are forces in Nashville that would like to see the track torn down, and old school racing purists are fighting the good fight to keep it standing. Weaver and Wallace then debate the state of NASCAR and how the sport is doing midway through 2026, after a tumultuous off-season. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Has NASCAR Gotten Too Fast??
With Denny Hamlin securing his 63rd Cup Series win and tying Kyle Busch on the all-time wins list, the fellas revisit Hamlin's rumored retirement plans. Could 2026 finally be Denny's year for a title, or is he just keeping the seat warm for Brent Crews? Carson Hocevar continues to be a fan-favorite, but is he burning too many bridges with his competitors? With speeds over 210 miles per hour at Michigan...and Christopher Bell and Chase Elliott taking hard hits on the wall, is the racing too fast or just right? Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Jamey Flannery: Appreciating A New Lease On Life
Jamey Flannery was a winning off-road truck racer, who thought he was invincible until a dramatic health scare forced him to reconsider his life's priorities. Now a very successful businessman, Flannery has scaled his endeavors at such a rapid pace, he occasionally struggles to manage it all. Hear how he learned racing from the likes of Jimmie Johnson and Walker Evans. The Wisconsin native also opens up about how Walker & Kenny's brother, Rusty Wallace, became second fathers in his life. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Don't Ever Count Denny Out
Did we just witness one of the greatest Cup races of all time this weekend at Nashville? The fellas share their opinions. With the 2026 season reaching the halfway mark, silly season rumors are starting to swirl...who could we see swap rides for next season? Justin Allgaier is dominating the O'Reilly Series this year and just might be rethinking his retirement plans. Wallace shares his perspective on what Allgaier should choose. And how are short tracks handling adversity? Common sense solutions are working for some, while others are fighting for their footing...no matter what they do. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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The Incredible Life of Brian Deegan
Originally airing on March 6, 2024, motorsports fans won’t want to miss this episode as Kenny Wallace talks with X-Games legend Brian Deegan. This episode is an honest, high-energy conversation about racing, risk, family, and building a motorsports and content empire. Brian opens up about his path from freestyle motocross pioneer to off-road racing icon, the sacrifices behind the fame, and what it’s really like raising one of the biggest motorsports families in America. They discuss Brian’s daughter, Hailie, and her journey trying to make it in NASCAR. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Best Way To Honor Kyle Busch Is By Racing
This week on Herm & Schrader, we wrap up an emotional weekend with the guys' thoughts on Kyle Busch and how he was honored around the world. And fittingly, we get to break down what may go down as two of the most competitive Indy 500s and Coca-Cola 600s we have seen. The guys also talk about the weekend's tough weather situation and how NASCAR navigated that to get each National Series race completed. And, we look at Memorial Day and how military members, in particular, have helped shape motorsports. It's all this week on Herm & Schrader. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Rick Allen: More Than Just An Iconic Voice
You might think you know Rick Allen from his time in the TV booth, but you probably don’t know everything. He was the golden voice in NASCAR for over 20 years, but there’s a lot more to his story. From being a champion decathlete who almost made the Olympics to serving as the voice of Nebraska football, and also being a renowned woodworker who built his own house, Rick Allen is full of surprises. He's also an auctioneer, broadcasts bowling, college football, and college basketball...the list goes on and on. Kenny and Rick discuss the state of NASCAR on TV and so much more in this conversation with a true jack-of-all-trades. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Don't Blame Dover For The All-Star Race
With Ken Schrader off racing in the remote corners of Canada, Alan and Kenny Wallace fill in the gaps and recap the All-Star weekend at Dover. With Denny Hamlin securing his 2nd All-Star race win, the fellas discuss how Hamlin's been able to peak his performance during the end of his career. Wallace gives a passionate rant about what worked for Dover's All-Star debut, and what didn't. Alan thinks the O'Reilly Series car is great, and Herm tells us why he's sick of hearing about it. Plus, pit road heroics from a Spire crewmember helped prevent potentially serious injuries to others from a runaway pit cart. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Jerry Nadeau: A Story of Relentless Fighting Spirit
Kenny Wallace catches up with the winner of the 2000 NAPA 500 at Atlanta, Jerry Nadeau! They discuss his unlikely rise from a grassroots upbringing in karting in the Northeast to becoming a NASCAR Cup Series winner. Jerry's career could best be described as "snake-bitten" with his highs and lows playing out in dramatic fashion, including a vicious 2003 crash at Richmond that abruptly ended his racing career. Wallace and Jerry discuss how he bounced back and been able to find purpose after racing. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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The Only Thing SVG's Chasing Is History
Herm & Schrader are back from Kyle Petty's Charity Ride Across America and give us the highlights from the racing action this weekend. Shane van Gisbergen continues to chase history following another road course win at Watkins Glen. The fellas get into a spirited debate discussing if it's harder to get into good equipment and deal with immediate expectations to perform, compared to starting in lesser rides and building your way to the top. Wallace heaps praise on Kaden Honeycutt after his standout 4-win weekend, and Schrader shares his predictions for the young star. With NASCAR's decision to hold the All-Star race at Dover, should we be optimistic for a good race after what we've seen out of the Monster Mile recently, or have events like the All-Star Race and The Clash lived past their purpose and should be left in the past? Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mike Ege: Will An Electric NASCAR Become Reality?
With so much NASCAR electric vehicle speculation going on lately, Kenny Wallace figured it was time to seek out an expert. Mike Ege was a long-time engine builder for the likes of Rusty Wallace & Mark Martin. He details how an electric motor would work in NASCAR and the many challenges it could create. How far away is the technology from being viable in premier motorsports? Plus, Ege and Kenny share some classic NASCAR stories and discuss how the sport has changed for the better and worse. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Steve O'Donnell: There's A New Sheriff In Town
Steve O’Donnell needs new business cards because after 31 years working in NASCAR, he’s now the man in charge after being named CEO last week! O’Donnell explains how he got his start in business and NASCAR, working his way from the bottom all the way to the top. Where did the sport make mistakes along the way and how can NASCAR get back to the good ol’ days? O’Donnell details why things were done the way they were, while also looking to the future. He wants drivers with personality, and oh by the way, this whole NASCAR electric vehicle story isn’t really what you think it is. This Kenny Conversation with NASCAR’s new boss is can’t miss! Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Hurricane Hocevar Storms Talladega
This week, Herm & Schrader tackle all the big issues. Carson Hocevar won his first career Cup race at Talladega and everyone is asking the question, could Carson be the next Intimidator? Cleetus and Hocevar continue to dominate the headlines, is that a good thing for the sport? Three first time winners came out of Talladega; might a changing of the guard be on the horizon? And of course, all these questions and more will be answered on this week's episode so take a ride on Talladega Boulevard and check out Herm & Schrader. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Tommy Baldwin: Long Island Racing Royalty
The Midwest meets the Northeast in this conversation between two NASCAR legends. Tommy Baldwin details his journey from a famous Long Island racing family down to Charlotte to realize his NASCAR dream. As a crew chief, he won some of the biggest races in the world...but why did Baldwin turn down opportunities to work with Mark Martin & Jeff Gordon? Crew chief, team owner, competition director, and, of course, now podcaster right here on Dirty Mo Media, Baldwin brings his one-of-a-kind perspective to this great Kenny Conversation. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Why Is Everyone Mad At Tyler Reddick?
This week on Herm & Schrader, the guys talk about how Tyler Reddick continues to shred the competition in the NASCAR Cup Series. Carson Kvapil took a tumble in the O'Reilly Series and got out unscathed, so we ask the question: Is motorsports still dangerous? The ladies showed out in the ARCA Menards Series, but are we any closer to a female winner in the Cup Series? Plus, the fellas share their weekend race plans and offer up some classic Herm & Schrader-style jokes! Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Bob Sargent: Nashville Fairgrounds Future & The Dale Jr. Factor
Bob Sargent is one of the best race track promoters in America, and he has such a pulse on all aspects of racing that we had to talk with him for a second time! Sargent discusses the future of Nashville Fairgrounds and how Dale Earnhardt Jr. helped the cause,driving in the CARS Tour over the weekend in front of a sold-out crowd of about 12,000 fans. Bob talks about the politics of racing and putting on both an event and a race at the same time. Should NASCAR and local tracks follow the Cleetus McFarland model? Kenny and Bob break this down and more! Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Ty-Time At Bristol!
This week on Herm & Schrader, the fellas break down Ty Gibbs' breakthrough win at Bristol. Thunder Valley saw three great finishes in each of NASCAR's National Series, but could the spring race's future be in doubt after another lackluster crowd? Speaking of crowds, short tracks across America continue bringing in big groups of fans, including Nashville Fairgrounds, but is it enough to save the Music City favorite? Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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How Jeff Gluck Changed NASCAR Reporting
We’re going back into the archive for another Kenny Conversation classic that originally aired 12/7/2023. Kenny talks to one of NASCAR’s best reporters and podcasters, Dirty Mo Media’s own Jeff Gluck! Jeff describes how he got into the business of motorsports journalism. He also explains how he came up with two of his famous features, “Quiet Track” and the “Was it a good race?” poll. It’s a racer talking to a reporter, and it’s one you don’t want to miss! Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Is Cleetus-Mania Taking Over NASCAR?!
Herm is finally back from his vacation, and he and Schrader discuss the weekend in Rockingham and Cleetus-Mania! We debate if Cleetus McFarland passed the test with his Rockingham performance...but should he have been there in the first place? Wallace adds his 2 cents to the NASCAR Hall of Fame debate. Plus, it was Heim-time again in the Craftsman Truck Series, but did Kaden Honeycutt get a raw deal from his teammate? Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Mike Wallace: Handling Heartbreak While Living His NASCAR Dream
This Kenny Conversation with Mike Wallace originally aired on 9/6/2023. The brothers discuss how Mike achieved his NASCAR dream, winning 9 races across NASCAR's O'Reilly and Trucks series, and becoming a superspeedway ace. However, there was also heartbreak along the way with the tragic loss of his son. Mike overcame a lot to become successful on and off the track, and shares details on his post-racing career working in real estate. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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NASCAR's Martinsville Madness
Rick Mast is back again to fill in for Kenny Wallace, and he and Schrader break down Chase Elliott's big Martinsville win. The fellas also discuss Bubba Wallace's recent incidents, including his road rage directed at Carson Hocevar. And the guys weigh in on the topic that dominated NASCAR news last week: who belongs in the NASCAR Hall of Fame? It was another slamming weekend of short track racing in the Carolinas; we debate if today's future stars are real racers or just a bunch of wannabes. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Meet The Real Ty Gibbs
You think you know Ty Gibbs from watching him on TV? Well, let’s actually get to know him. That’s what this Kenny Conversation is all about. The 23-year-old is an open book, even giving a tour of the trophy room in his house. How does he deal with the online haters? Gibbs has a very funny answer to that. And Ty discusses the life lessons he’s learned from “Coach,” his grandpa, Joe Gibbs. If you’ve already made up your mind on Ty Gibbs, this discussion may change your mind. Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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Even Darlington Can't Tame Tyler Reddick!
Rick Mast fills in again for Kenny Wallace, who's off on vacation, and the fellas discuss a historical win for Tyler Reddick at Darlington. Rick Mast is stunned by the number of young fans he saw sporting Carson Hocevar merchandise; will this new phenomenon last? Schrader recounts an old story about the time he tried to "get even" at the 'Track Too Tough To Tame', and why he refused to stop by NASCAR's hauler afterwards. Plus, we do a little dirt racing recap and tell our famous jokes! Real fans wear Dirty Mo. Hit the link and join the crew.👇 shop.dirtymomedia.com Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Epically historic. Occasionally irreverent. Always hilarious. Never – and we mean never – giving a single solitary damn about anything but racing, drinking beer and telling stories, some even true. What else would you expect from a show with Kenny Wallace and Ken Schrader, the charismatic, fan-favorite, midwestern buddies who are still gettin’ it done on racetracks near you. On this show, Wallace and Schrader chime in on current events, rehash old stories from their NASCAR careers and engage in conversations that have always been private … until now. Be forewarned – the two Kennys play by nobody’s rules. They say what they want. They do what they do. They are what they are.
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