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Heterodorx
by Corinna Cohn
“Based TERF and Tranny” Nina Paley and Cori Cohn talk about gender — and anything else they find interesting and/or horrifying — with warmth, sarcasm, respect, cutting intelligence, more sarcasm, and disarming honesty. heterodorx.substack.com
Episodes
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Episode 200: What Not To Do If Your Son Is Dating A Tranny
Cori is BACK and so is the Heterodorx podcast! We didn’t even realize this was our 200th episode when we discussed an “interesting” article on PITT (Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans) that got Cori’s gender-neutral underthings in a twist because he, too, was once the “girlfriend” of a...
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Episode 199: Miracle Patient
What’s it like to survive Stage 4 abdominal cancer? The Dorx interviewed Alasdair over a year ago, shortly after he learned he was an immunotherapy “miracle patient.” But we never released that episode, partly because Nina cried about her own problems. Here Nina and Alasdair attempt to re-create...
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Episode 198: Alasdair Gunn Fills Cori's Royal Sandals
With Cori on indefinite hiatus, gender critical statistics aggregator, writer, designer, miracle cancer survivor, and friend o’ the pod’ Alasdair Gunn humbly offers to serve in his absence. We discuss why we don’t want to discuss gender. According to our recording platform’s AI assistant, we also...
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Episode 196: The Squeaky Wheel Gets The Avocado Oil
Heterodorx is on indefinite hiatus while one of us goes through some Life Stuff He Can’t Talk About. But here’s a recording from early April, released today, June 5. So much has already changed! For example, Nina’s favorite nutrition shake, Soylent, is no longer available. SAD! We also discuss...
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Episode 195: Natalists, Outliers, and MAID for Podcasters with Meghan Daum
Writer, podcaster, teacher, thinker, public discourser, and friend of the pod’ Megan Daum joins the Dorx to discuss 80’s music trivia. After which we talk about natalism: pro, anti, soft anti-, demi-, and a-. How wrong was Paul Ehrlich? Is the Demographic Transition Theory true? How has our...
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Episode 194: Veganism and Apostates
After talking about health as we always do because we’re old, we pivot to diet — specifically veganism. Cori, who has never cared about animal rights, gamely steel-mans an argument in favor, while Nina, whose bleeding heart has caused anemia and possibly brittle bones, fearfully argues against....
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Episode 193: Ex X; X, Why?
After obligatory discussion of the weather and other old people stuff, Cori lulls Nina to sleep with tales of AI: training software developers to use Claude Code, how one set of commands yielded 20 results, and other top-tier content. Then he relates his entire social media history from college...
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Episode 192: Bicycle Dreams
Recording shortly before Cori deletes his X account, the Dorx discuss chometz, pre-Pesach purging, and locking breakfast cereal in the basement. Nina feels “more Zionist than usual” and Cori criticizes Israel. Then Nina nerds out on recumbent bike history and describes the DREAM BIKE she is…
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Episode 191: Iran So Far Away
Nina is a Certified Food Handler, Cori is a Certified Ball Handler, and “bureaucracy just hasn’t been done right yet”. We helplessly learn about learned helplessness and why our episodes are so few and far between. Plus anomia (anomic aphasia), lesbian comedians, Robby Hoffman, rumination, and...
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Episode 190: The Thaw
Nina gets invited to an animation festival for the first time in years, turning her world upside-down. Then we discuss the Great Mail-Order Terffles Experiment, which by the time of this writing (2 weeks after our recording, because Cori’s depression delays his editing even more than usual) has...
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Episode 189: (Potential) Panic at the Farmer's Market!
Nina weighs the pros and cons of offering her delicious chocolate Terffles at the local Farmer’s Market, while Cori is motivated by lulz. Is it a chocolate thing, or a gender thing? Which wins: love, humor, or domination? Can Cori work on the Sabbath? How can 2 things be true?? Plus: social…
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Episode 188: The Trouble with Terffles
After Nina “sings” the theme song to The Electric Company and Cori talks about his cats, we discuss last week’s news: gender-critical lawyer Glenna Goldis’s hiring by the FTC post-firing by NY State Attorney General Letitia James, and detransitioner Fox Varian’s $2M lawsuit victory. Living up to...
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Episode 187: Women Have Too Much Baggage
Enjoy a full hour of Cori and Nina at their best: arguing about attribution, pretending the male co-host is the “designated feminist,” and snarking about various current events. Cori asserts women, old people, and the disabled shouldn’t be on airplanes, and Nina, who is all 3 of those things…
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Episode 186: What's Happening In Iran? With Zartosht Soltani
The Dorx try to understand recent events in the Area Formerly Known As Persia by interrogating animator-cartoonist-painter-comic book creator Zartosht Soltani, who grew up there before moving to New York City. What’s causing the uprisings? What outcomes are possible? What’s it like being jailed…
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Episode 185: GO BILLS!
Hanukkah is over, but we still have plenty to say about candles, miracles, and commemorating atrocities. We offer our respective reviews of 2025, and Cori talks more about his joylessness, depression, and identifying with “victim groups.” Nina reports progress on her SSDI Blue Book playing card...
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Episode 184: Alcophobia, or “Oh God Not This Again”
After learning about Nina’s inability to whistle and Cori’s interest in Sharia Enthusiast meetups, the Dorx return to the tired old subjects of gender and online drama. That stupid blue dress comes up again, while a cancellation mob forms on “our side”, at least as bad as the old cancellation…
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Episode 183: Podcasting from Purgatory
Cori is acutely depressed, so we discuss his inner world, psychic bodies, primal wounds, and spiritual maladies. We also answer some Listener Questions: is it OK to be tired of TERFing? What are our favorite cat memories? What is Cori’s latest forecast for the future? It’s a far cry from our...
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Episode 182: Hayek's Road To Serfdom
You begged us to stop talking about gender, and start talking about economics. So by popular demand we just made up, the Dorx discuss F.A. Hayek’s The Road To Serfdom for an hour. Collectivism! Individualism! Planned economies! Marx! Socialism, Communism, and Capitalism! Power! Competition! If…
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Episode 181: College Republicans and Chloe Cole
Cori enters the ranks of the Truly Old by discussing his fascinating medical problems, including depression, vasovagal response, blood tests, and his severely impaired endocrine system. Nina attends a Chloe Cole talk hosted by ISU College Republicans and hears chants for free hormones outside and...
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Episode 180: Fresh Convert vs Tired Agnostic
Recorded during the High Holy Days, after catching up on sensitivity, innocence, hard surfaces, insect bites, and fasting, Cori attempts to school Nina in who is and is not “really Jewish,” obnoxious as only a fresh convert can be. So we get into a long-winded discussion about faith, culture,...
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Episode 179: Cancel Culture Club
In this weeks-late release (blame Mr. Flounce) we ask: Is it ever a good idea to fire someone for saying crazy, wrong, and/or threatening things in public? Nina would like to always say no, but even she admits that in some occupations, such as medical care, stating you want certain ethnic groups…
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Episode 178: Charlie Kirk and 9-11
The Dorx record the day after the assassination of Charlie Kirk, which happens to be the 24th anniversary of the World Trade Center attacks. We reminisce about 9-11-01: where we were, how we felt, how we’ve changed since. Then we discuss the current climate of political violence, comparing the...
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Episode 177: Hey Kids! Don't Shoot Schools OR Drugs
The Dorx discuss Robin/Robert Westman, the psychotic Minneapolis Catholic school shooter. Was he left-wing or right-wing? Does trans ideology cause psychosis, or is it just coincidental? What is the difference between racism and white nationalism? Do women owe the world reproductive labor? What...
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Episode 176: Katie Herzog Drinks Her Way Sober
You may recognize Katie Herzog’s journalism and podcasting, but did you also know she’s soon-to-be famous for her alcoholism? For years she hid it from the world and her exceptionally gullible wife, but now she tells all in a new book which even longtime twelve-stepper Nina finds persuasive. Can...
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Episode 175: Reality Bites
Cori and Nina chit-chat about things that have nothing to do with gender: heat indices, ducktails, cat poop, impermanence, Hulk Hogan, Conway’s Game of Life, Michigan in the summer, Permethrin, online shopping, Spaceballs, elephants, and The Book of Job. But other topics in our wandering...
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Episode 174: Smells Like Teen Eunuch
Cori returns from San Francisco with brief tales of the Endocrine Society before launching into crazy population projections (AGAIN) and then making some rather provocative arguments. What are Human Rights? Can children consent to irreversible decisions? Is the individual the most important unit…
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Episode 173: Psychos in Strasbourg, Degenerates in Indianapolis
Cori speaks at the European Society for Child & Adolescent Psychiatry conference, then returns home to find degenerates everywhere. Meanwhile, Nina’s beloved cat dies. Cori calls out a “Protect the Dolls” campaign; Nina’s lungs improve. Cori has to clean up human feces in his yard; Nina wears a...
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Episode 172: Skrmetti Puttanesca with Judge TERF
On June 18 the Supreme Court of the United States ruled on US v. Skrmetti, deciding whether a Tennessee law prohibiting certain medical interventions on youngsters violates the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. The Hon. Elspeth Cypher (ret.) a.k.a. Judge TERF joins the Dorx to…
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Episode 171: Poop and Protocol
How old is Cori? Will the NYT podcast The Protocol change minds? Is there any competence in the Trump administration? Why is Nina’s cat pooping on the floor? These questions and more are asked, but not entirely answered, as we move in and out of the fetal position, name-drop various GC power...
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Episode 170: Collective Punishment
The Young Generation (Cori) reaches out to the Old Generation (Nina) and exhibits patience while pretending to listen to geezer tales of things that go wrong with body parts and the SSDI Blue Book. Then we get into the hip, happenin’, swingin’ NOW with the latest news on gay martyrs, fake…
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Episode 169: TERFs, Trannies, Crohnies, Bronchies, & Geezers
Cori is almost 50, and Nina is 57 going on 80. We discuss bronchiectasis, health hazards, witchcraft, hypertonic saline, nebulizers, oxygen monitors, IQ tests, lifesaving gender-denying healthcare, pulmonology, and being a delicate flower. Cori gives a speech, doesn’t quit his job, and asks: at...
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Episode 168: SSRIs, ADHD, and Medical Trends with Julia Mason, MD
After several conversations about antidepressants, the Dorx welcome back pediatrician Dr. Julia Mason, who prescribes Selective Seretonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) to young people. Do we even know what these drugs do to developing brains? How do antidepressants compare with “gender-affirming...
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Episode 167: American Taxpayer Appreciation Episode
Cori is a hard-working corporate employee who dutifully contributes to America’s tax base. Nina is a low-income artist with Crohn’s Disease whose medical expenses make her a net parasite, despite also paying taxes. After a surprise performance of improvised music by soda-can virtuoso Cori, we...
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Episode 166: Illin', Chillin', & Gettin' That Bill In
Cori travels from statehouse to statehouse to testify against the worst excesses of gender ideology, while Nina gets sick for a month and loses her voice and relevance. Cori shares news from New Hampshire, where heterodox Democrat Jonah Wheeler is subject to a struggle session; Nina shares about...
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Episode 165: Did We Win Yet?
Following up on our June 2021 episode What If We Win? the Dorx ask whether we have won the gender wars yet. While discussing weak arguments, bad journalism, wrong pronouns, diversity of tactics, tolerance, metallurgy, the responsibility of power, and Cori’s “boys,” still more questions arise: Why...
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Episode 164: Nina's Brain Breaks Itself
Cori suddenly pivots to surprise Nina with an unexpected interview about her lifelong mental health affliction and the medication she takes to manage it. What is the difference between grief and depression? Should you “feel your feelings” when your feelings are broken? What is serotonin? Which is…
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Episode 163: Cori’s Breasts Break The Internet
More than what you ever needed to know about Cori’s breasts! Are they real? Are they implants? Are they gynecomastia? Whatever you call them (Cori calls them “the Boys”) they never fail to upset certain people on Twitter. Plus: Cori’s sweater, Cori’s scarf, Cori’s weight, Cori’s latest testimony…
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The Straight-Inclusive Queer Majority with Rio Veradonir
A founding editor of online magazine Queer Majority, Rio Veradonir advocates “an inclusive vision of queerness grounded in the liberal value of universal human rights, rather than identity politics.” We discuss liberalism, anti-liberalism, the gay press, extremism in media, neo-marxism, critical...
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Autogynephantasia! Our Emelia Pérez Review
Cori and Nina endure 2 hours of neo-religious propaganda so you don’t have to. Instead, you must endure 20 minutes of Nina attempting to recall plot points while Cori complains how long it’s taking. Are the characters flat, or nuanced? Is the movie merely terrible, or does it have cult classic...
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Executive Order 14168
Cori and Nina take turns reading aloud Trump’s Executive Order 14168: Defending Women from Gender Identity Extremism and Restoring Biological Truth to the Federal Government, commenting on every section. You won’t get a deeper analysis than ours, although you must endure Cori’s over-dramatic...
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The Ideological Capture of Tech with Bryan Lunduke
Remember the Free and Open Internet? Tech journalist Bryan Lunduke does, and isn’t afraid to write about its demise one institutional capture at a time. We discuss having our hearts broken by our beloved Internet Archive; the Wikipedia Foundation’s shady dealings; the Electronic Frontier...
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Desecrating the PFLAG
Cori and Nina “deform” a flag and it goes viral for a few seconds, thanks to the outrage of self-diagnosed autists. But hysterical online denunciations aren’t what they used to be, especially when you identify as an A*****e, as Nina now does to treat her kindness dysphoria. Many questions arise...
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Lesbians, Law, and Bicycles with Glenna Goldis
Lawyer and unyielding bicyclist Glenna Goldis knows the law, knows how to write, and knows women are female (ask her how!). After she describes her fancy road bike, and Nina lists her many recumbents, we move on to The US vs Skrmetti (also discussed here). Plus: cocaine, harm reduction, biker…
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The Trouble With Parents with Stephanie Winn
Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) is a family disease, affecting not only “trans kids” but parents and siblings too. Therapist, coach, consultant, and educator Stephanie Winn returns to Heterodorx to illuminate some of the hazards parents and other family members navigate: victimhood as…
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Artificial Intelligence with Chris Waites
AI Art Director, amateur comedian, band-aid specialist, DEI hire, and street researcher Chris Waites returns to Heterodorx — now with 10% more white! After disclosing some shattering news from 23&Me, Chris shares his expertise on AI generated visual art (please follow along on his Instagram…
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Judging US v Skrmetti with Judge TERF
Retired MA High Court Justice & WoLF legal powerhouse Elspeth Cypher returns to Heterodorx to discuss US v. Skrmetti, the Supreme Court case that could change the pediatric gender-industrial complex forever. Nina gives a “pedestrian viewpoint” of the hearing before superior legal minds Elspeth…
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Next year in Jerusalem?
Still on the path to conversion, Corinna updates us on his latest “Jew lessons” and why he kept the surname Cohn instead of anglicizing it to something like SparkleTree. We discuss the loss of oppression points for being Jewish; super-circumcision; antisemitism; and maybe visiting Israel someday....
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Post Election Derangement and Schadenfreude
Nina scrutinizes Cori’s Jewish pedigree and flaunts her own, while Cori compares Nina to Hitler and Kamala Harris to baloney. Then we discuss last week’s American presidential election! The suspense was killing us, but now we know who won (spoiler alert!) so we can stop compulsively checking our...
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Fear of a Woke Bike Mechanic
Nina’s social anxiety disorder impedes proper maintenance of her bicycles, while Corinna’s anti-social disorder compels him to empty an entire canister of dad jokes into the podcast. Are pronouns passé? What is the word for lonely bereaved former cat owners? How much can you round up pi? Plus…
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Aaron Kimberly Look-a Like a Man
What happens when a butch lesbian who’s been on testosterone 18 years realizes she wants back into womanhood? Whatever it is, prepare for a tidal wave of masculinized women about to do the same. Can women accept women who look like men as their own? How many masculine visual cues (facial hair,...
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“Based TERF and Tranny” Nina Paley and Cori Cohn talk about gender — and anything else they find interesting and/or horrifying — with warmth, sarcasm, respect, cutting intelligence, more sarcasm, and disarming honesty.
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