Holy Writ

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Holy Writ

We love the Bible, and we love good books. Holy Writ draws these loves together by generating dialogue between specific works of literature and Scripture. Each episode explores how a novel can refresh and deepen our interpretation of the Bible, so that it can inspire us to wonder, to question, and above all to love.

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    Ep. 16 - Moby-Dick

    In this episode, we turn to Herman Melville’s infamous novel *Moby-Dick.* Reading it in conversation with Numbers 9 and Matthew 12, we reflect on how Scripture forms and directs our attention, the presence of God both in and beyond the material world, and how distorting demonic powers relate to our habits of perception. Timestamps: 1:26 – Experiencing *Moby-Dick* 29:53 – Emily on Numbers 9 56:09 – Tommy on Matthew 12 1:31:03 – Next month’s book    Up Next: *The Mysterious Benedict Society* by Trenton Lee Stewart   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/  Instagram: @holywritpodcast TikTok: @holywritpodcast  YouTube: @HolyWritPodcast

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    Ep. 15 - Lila

    In this episode, we turn to Marilynne Robinson’s quiet, searching novel *Lila.* Reading it alongside John 20 and Hosea 14, we reflect on alternative modes of practicing theology, discuss the reach of resurrection life, and explore the problems and possibilities of divine-human marriage metaphors.   Timestamps: 1:20 – Experiencing *Lila* 31:13 – Tommy on John 20 1:19:00 – Emily on Hosea 14 2:01:47 – Next month’s book    Up Next: *Moby Dick* by Herman Melville   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/ Instagram: @holywritpodcast TikTok: @holywritpodcast YouTube: @HolyWritPodcast

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    Ep. 14 - Homegoing

    In this episode, we explore Yaa Gyasi’s book *Homegoing,* a novel that follows the branching paths of a single family across continents and centuries. Reading it in conversation with Joel 2 and 1 Peter 1, we talk about biblical genealogies, Christian entanglement with the legacy of colonialism and slavery, the integrative role of prophecy, how we relate to our ancestors, and the weighty meaning of chosenness.   Timestamps: 1:25 – Experiencing *Homegoing* 55:13 – Emily on Joel 2 1:25:08 – Tommy on 1 Peter 1 1:46:53 – Next month’s book    Up Next: *Lila* by Marilynne Robinson   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/  Instagram: @holywritpodcast TikTok: @holywritpodcast  YouTube: @HolyWritPodcast

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    Ep. 13 - The Book Thief

    In this episode, we turn to Markus Zusak’s *The Book Thief,* a novel that bears witness to the life of a young girl in Nazi Germany as she navigates profound loss, unexpected connection, and life-giving friendship—all told from the vantage point of Death itself.   Reading it in conversation with Esther 3 and 9 and Mark 13, we discuss the power of words to shape the world, the difficult work of discerning God’s presence, and the intimate relationship between the heavens and the earth.   Timestamps: 1:27 – Experiencing *The Book Thief* 43:57 – Emily on Esther 3&9 1:26:21 – Tommy on Mark 13 1:59:98 – Next month’s book    Up Next: *Homegoing* by Yaa Gyasi   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/  Instagram: @holywritpodcast TikTok: @holywritpodcast  YouTube: @HolyWritPodcast

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    Ep. 12 - LaRose

    In this episode, we explore Louise Erdrich’s novel *LaRose,* a story that resists simple answers in the wake of tragedy. Reading it alongside Leviticus 24 and Ephesians 2, we reflect on justice, atonement, and what redemption truly is—and what it is not.   Timestamps: 1:31 – Experiencing *LaRose* 1:02:51 – Emily on Leviticus 24 1:29:12 – Tommy on Ephesians 2 2:00:53 – Next month’s book    Up Next: *The Book Thief* by Markus Zusak   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/  Instagram: @holywritpodcast TikTok: @holywritpodcast  YouTube: @HolyWritPodcast  

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    Ep. 11 - Time of the Child

    In this episode, we step into the dreary beauty of Niall Williams’ *Time of the Child,* a tender, luminous novel that lingers over birth, hope, and the quiet rearranging of a family and community. Reading it alongside Matthew 1 and Psalm 8, we reflect on the scandalous miracle of Christ’s coming to us as an infant, the relationship between law and promise, and what it means for divine strength to arrive not as domination, but in nearness and vulnerability.   Timestamps: 1:36 – Experiencing *Time of the Child* 48:18 – Tommy on Matthew 1 1:21:37 – Emily on Psalm 8 1:53:00 – Next month’s book   References: The Poet’s Bible, David Rosenberg Isaac Villegas on Advent   Up Next: *LaRose* by Louise Erdrich   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/  Instagram: @holywritpodcast Bluesky: @holywrit.bsky.social TikTok: @holywritpodcast 

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    Ep. 10 - Parable of the Sower with Tamisha Tyler

    In this episode, we discuss Octavia Butler’s *Parable of the Sower*—a prophetic work of speculative fiction that reimagines God, community, and survival amidst societal collapse. Reading it alongside Genesis 18–19 and 1 John 4, we explore the idea of God as Change, and the power of embodied experience in shaping how we interpret scripture and the world around us. We’re joined by Dr. Tamisha Tyler, Visiting Assistant Professor of Theology and Culture, and Theopoetics at Bethany Theological Seminary. Tamisha also serves as Theologian in Residence at the Center for Restorative Justice in Pasadena, and is part of the Level Ground Artist Collective in Los Angeles. Her current research explores religion in the literary world of Octavia Butler. Timestamps: 1:46 – Experiencing *Parable of the Sower* 35:47 – Emily on Genesis 18-19 1:16:18 – Tommy on 1 John 4 1:50:34 – Next month’s book   Up Next: *Time of the Child* by Niall Williams   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected]  Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/  Instagram: @holywritpodcast Bluesky: @holywrit.bsky.social TikTok: @holywritpodcast 

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    Ep. 9 - Misery

    In this episode, we uneasily enter Stephen King’s novel *Misery*—a brutal and brilliant meditation on captivity, creation, and control. Reading it alongside Psalm 88 and 2 Corinthians 3, we wrestle with scriptural images of God as an abusive caregiver, consider the limitations of written words, and reflect on the strange clarity that horror can offer to faith. Timestamps: 1:35 – Experiencing *Misery* 20:28 – Emily on Psalm 88 54:16 – Tommy on 2 Corinthians 3 1:39:48 – Next month’s book   Up Next: *Parable of the Sower* by Octavia Butler, with guest Dr. Tasmisha Tyler   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected] Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/ Instagram: @holywritpodcast Bluesky: @holywrit.bsky.social TikTok: @holywritpodcast

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    Ep. 8 - East of Eden

    In this episode, we delve into John Steinbeck’s sprawling masterpiece *East of Eden,* a novel that reimagines the story of Cain and Abel across generations of rivalry, love and longing. Reading it in conversation with 1 Samuel 15 and Romans 9, we explore the power of names, thinking together about how naming expresses human vocation, God’s calling, and the gift of moral agency.   Timestamps: 1:28 – Experiencing *East of Eden* 27:53 – Emily on 1 Samuel 15 1:00:53 – Tommy on Romans 9 1:50:01 – Next month’s book, *Misery* by Stephen King   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected] Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/ Instagram: @holywritpodcast Bluesky: @holywrit.bsky.social Tiktok: @holywritpodcast

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    Ep. 7 - The Buried Giant

    In this episode, we descend into the mist of Kazuo Ishiguro’s haunting novel, *The Buried Giant.* Reading it alongside Luke 22 and Nehemiah 2, we talk about the meaning and power of memory, specifically in relationship to violence, betrayal, death, the practice of the Eucharist, and the discipleship of children.   Timestamps: 1:28 – Experiencing *The Buried Giant* 32:25 – Tommy on Luke 22 1:05:03 – Emily on Nehemiah 2 1:42:48 – Next month’s book   Up Next: *East of Eden* by John Steinbeck   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected] Instagram: @holywritpodcast Bluesky: @holywrit.bsky.social Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/

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    Ep. 6 - Giovanni's Room

    In this episode, we wade into the waters of *Giovanni’s Room,* James Baldwin’s desperately beautiful and exposing novel of desire, dislocation and self-repression. Reckoning with this story alongside Genesis 9 and 1 Corinthians 13, we discuss gender and sexuality, human responses to the existential terror of vulnerability, and the importance of embracing our bodily existence as the incarnation of mystery.   Timestamps: 1:36 – Experiencing *Giovanni’s Room* 37:27 – Emily on Genesis 9 1:19:32 – Tommy on 1 Corinthians 13 1:49:12 – Next month’s book   Up Next: *The Buried Giant* by Kazuo Ishiguro    Connect with Us: Email: [email protected] Instagram: @holywritpodcast Bluesky: @holywrit.bsky.social Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/

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    Ep. 5 - Sunrise on the Reaping

    In this episode, we enter the deadly arena of *Sunrise on the Reaping,* the latest installment in Suzanne Collins’ Hunger Games saga. Reading this prequel alongside Exodus 1, Matthew 27, and Colossians 2, we discuss politics of spectacle, transgressive art, patient resistance to empire, and the vulnerable power of sacred language.   Timestamps: 1:32 – Experiencing *Sunrise on the Reaping* 31:20 – Emily on Exodus 1 1:03:44 – Tommy on Matthew 27 and Colossians 2 1:44:38 – Next month’s book   References: Wendell Berry poem entitled “1993: IV” (from *A Timbered Choir: The Sabbath Poems 1979-1997*)   Up Next: *Giovanni’s Room* by James Baldwin   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected]  Instagram: @holywritpodcast Bluesky: @holywrit.bsky.social Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/   

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    Ep. 4 - Ancillary Justice with Collin Cornell

     In this episode, we explore Anne Leckie's book, *Ancillary Justice*–a novel of galactic empire, artificial intelligence and fractured identity. In our mind-bending conversation with Old Testament scholar Dr. Collin Cornell, we draw 2 Chronicles 33 and Romans 7 into the orbit of this alternative world, discussing everything from imperial reform and primordial splitting to memory and gender.   Up Next: *Sunrise on the Reaping* by Suzanne Collins    Timestamps: 1:48 –Experiencing *Ancillary Justice* 27:18 – Collin on 2 Chronicles 33 1:00:05 – Tommy on Romans 7 1:37:32 – Next Month’s Book   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected] Instagram: @holywritpodcast Bluesky: @holywrit.bsky.social Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/

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    Ep. 3 - North Woods

    In this episode, we dive with delight into *North Woods* by Daniel Mason—a novel that, in many ways, unfolds like the Bible itself. In our wide-ranging conversation, which draws specifically Job 29 and John 4, we reflect on the sexuality of creation, the limits of human perception, and the interplay between the intimate and the epic.   Timestamps: 1:33 - Experiencing *North Woods* 43:22 - Tommy on John 4 1:11:29 - Emily on Job 29 1:49:32 - Next month’s Book  … and Guest!   Up Next: *Ancillary Justice* by Ann Leckie (with guest Collin Cornell)   Connect with Us: Email: [email protected] Instagram: @holywritpodcast Bluesky: @holywrit.bsky.social Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/

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    Ep. 2 - Beloved

    In this episode, we discuss Toni Morrison’s *Beloved,* a novel that refuses to let the past be forgotten. Bringing it into conversation with Romans, John 6, and Lamentations 2 & 4, we explore haunting and historical memory, suffering and healing, the promiscuity of grace, and the pain of love. **Content Note: Beloved is a novel written for a mature audience, and our discussion reflects that.  Timestamps: 1:40 - Experiencing Beloved 17:26 - The novel’s epigraph and Romans 29:31 - Emily on Lamentations 2&4  1:06:24 - Tommy on John 6 1:46:53 - Next month’s book   Up Next: *North Woods* by Daniel Mason Connect with Us: Email: [email protected]  Instagram: @holywritpodcast Bluesky: @holywrit.bsky.social Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/   

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    Ep. 1 - Holes

    In this debut conversation, we introduce ourselves and share the story behind this podcast—how our love for fiction and scripture led us to explore the ways these texts speak to and challenge each other. Then, we dig into Holes by Louis Sachar alongside Exodus 19 and Matthew 3, discussing themes of intergenerationality, curses, mutual responsibility, and love.   References: Makarios Institute Abraham Heschel quote: from God in Search of Man   Up Next: Beloved by Toni Morrison Connect with Us: Email: [email protected]  Instagram: @holywritpodcast Bluesky: @holywrit.bsky.social Website: https://holywritpod.podbean.com/  

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

We love the Bible, and we love good books. Holy Writ draws these loves together by generating dialogue between specific works of literature and Scripture. Each episode explores how a novel can refresh and deepen our interpretation of the Bible, so that it can inspire us to wonder, to question, and above all to love.

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Emily Cash and Tommy Givens

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