Episodes
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S6 Ep20: 7 Years Later: Re-Visiting My Miscarriage Story | Baby Loss Awareness Week
This week is Baby Loss Awareness Week, so I'm re-sharing a conversation that means a lot to me. Seven years ago, shortly after my own miscarriage, I sat down with Ruth Bender Atik. She was National Director of what was then the Miscarriage Association (now Miscarriage UK) and has since retired.…
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S6 Ep19: Inside The TEDx Framework: 8 to 18 Minutes to Change A Life | Martina Witter
A TED talk was on my vision board for this year. So when I was asked to speak at TEDx Trafford this November, I was thrilled, but when I started the process I was surprised by just what it takes to get on that stage. So for this week's episode, I'm joined by TEDx Trafford Curator Martina Witter…
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S6 Ep18: I Shouldn't Say This, But... The Best Bits
18 episodes into series 6, and I don't know where the time's gone! This week, to celebrate, I've pulled together my favourite moments from my guests this series. If you'd like to watch any of the episodes in full, scroll down for the links. In this episode: - Kelly Tucker on why your team are...
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S6 Ep17: How To Overcome A Fear of Public Speaking (When It Scares You More Than Death)
When I went on BBC Radio 4's The Bottom Line, someone said that people fear public speaking more than they fear death. It's stuck with me ever since. Because if that's true, most of us are walking into every pitch, presentation and team meeting carrying a fear we've never actually been taught how...
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S6 Ep16: Google Told Me I Couldn't Be A Managing Director (Here's How I've Proved It Wrong)
I’m back for another catch-up with my producer Stefan - the second one now, so if you liked the last unfiltered chat, this is more of that. We're covering off everything that’s been going on in my life since the last one: The ‘old man in a grey suit’ MD image that’s followed me since my first...
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S6 Ep15: They Told Me I Was Barren at 43. Here's How I Got Pregnant Naturally at 44 | Liberty Mills
At 43, Liberty Mills was told one of your ovaries is empty and you are barren. She could have accepted it. She didn't, having already reversed her lupus diagnosis and gave birth naturally two weeks before turning 25. I sit down with Liberty, a Fertility and Autoimmune Coach, to unpack how she did...
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S6 Ep14: I Shouldn't Say This But, Here's The Real Reason I Interview People
We're a good few episodes into the new series of I Shouldn't Say This, But, and I wanted to do something different this week - a solo recap of what I've personally learned, what's changed, and where we're going next, so buckle up! When I brought the podcast back, it wasn't just about creating…
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S6 Ep13: Why "Being Nice" Is Actually the Coward's Way Out. From the Harrods shop floor to founder: Heather Elkington
Heather started out being trained not to say the word "toilet" on the Harrods shop floor. She ended up running culture for a Footsie 100 business, sat in rooms twenty years her senior, telling herself her opinion didn't count. This episode is about what happened in between, and the philosophy she...
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S6 Ep12: I Nearly Went Back to Employment (And Here's Why I Didn't)
We're three months into the podcast (five if you count the planning), and I wanted to do something different for this one: an unfiltered chat with my producer Stefan. In this episode, we get into: Why I chose Mollie's over a studio, and the branding lesson I took from watching Steven Bartlett…
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S6 Ep11: The Government Wiped Out 124,000 Jobs. I Watched It Happen | Sacha Lord
Sacha Lord: Warehouse Project, Losing a Customer, and Why He Took the Government to Court He turned up to the Hacienda in his dad's suit and got turned away at the door. Thirty-five years later, Sacha Lord has built and sold the biggest club night and metropolitan festival in the UK, become…
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S6 Ep10: Your Leadership Team's Silence Is Costing You £17.8 Million a Year | Ash Jones
I sat down with Ash Jones, Steven Bartlett's first-ever personal brand manager (and first person to ever have the title), founder of one of the UK's first personal branding agencies and my good friend, to talk about the real cost of staying quiet when it comes to personal branding for you and the...
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S6 Ep9: I Got 1 Million Listeners on BBC Radio 4 (And My Imposter Syndrome Took Over)
This week I'm catching you up on one of the biggest moments of my year so far! Recording BBC Radio 4's The Bottom Line with Evan Davis, Andy Ransom (former CEO of Rentokil) and imposter syndrome expert Dr Valerie Young. The topic? Imposter syndrome, my specialist subject. Except the moment I…
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S6 Ep8: My Husband Wasn't Paid for 9 Months, So We Built a 500 Freelancer Network
This week I'm joined by Pav, CEO of We Are The Allies, the incredible agency behind this podcast, and it's one of the best founding stories I've heard. Pav's career started in the accounts department of a Leeds agency (she didn't even have the GCSEs for it) and took her through the marketing...
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S6 Ep7: Hustle Culture Is Lying To Women. The NHS Dietician's Truth About Hormones, Food & Burnout
Why You're Exhausted, Foggy and Under-Fuelled (And What To Do About It) | Jade Reilly, NHS Dietitian In this episode I sit down with Jade Reilly, a registered dietitian of over a decade with the NHS, personal trainer, Pilates teacher, and On running ambassador, to talk about what it actually…
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S6 Ep6: "I've had death threats...over hair" The reality of building a personal brand online with Sarah Louise Keane
She's had death threats over hair. She won't stop. In this episode of I Shouldn't Say This But, Katy Leeson sits down with hairdresser, turned-content-creator Sarah (SLK), 21 years in the industry, founder of Host Manchester, and one of the most followed voices in UK hairdressing. Sarah opens up...
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S6 Ep5: I'm Collecting Memories, Not Sleep Scores
Consider this your invitation to pull up a chair at Mollies and have a proper catch-up with me, because that's exactly what this episode is. It's been a whirlwind few weeks. I'm talking talks, coaching sessions that made me genuinely emotional, a fitness competition that nearly finished me off…
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S6 Ep4: 78% of UK Business Leaders Feel Out of Their Depth And Nobody's Talking About It
Your Impostor Syndrome Isn't Going Away. Here's Why That's Actually Good News. Imposter syndrome gets talked about like it's a beginner's problem, something you grow out of as your career matures. Katy's here to tell you that's not how it works. After 20 years in leadership, scaling businesses,...
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S6 Ep3: Your People Are Your Biggest P&L Line, So Why Are You Ignoring Them? With Kelly Tucker
In this episode I sit down with Kelly Tucker, Founder of HR Star, for a conversation every founder and leader needs to hear. We get into why your people are your biggest P&L line but probably get the least attention, the subscription model of work, Gen Z expectations, hybrid working, new…
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S6 Ep2: Why I Left. Why I'm Back. What Four Years Taught Me
After four years away, I'm back! In this first episode, I'm taking it right back to the beginning, from press buyer to managing director of Social Chain, growing the agency from 30 to 130 people and 650% revenue growth, to working alongside Gary Neville, and now returning with a brand new chapter...
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S6 Ep1: I Shouldn't Say This But... I'm Back 🎙️
I Shouldn't Say This But is back, and I've got a lot to say and share. I'm Katy Leeson, former MD of Social Chain, founder of Courageous, and I'm bringing back one of the UK's top-ranked business podcasts with a clear mission: to help leaders and founders scale without losing their people or...
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S5 Ep15: Katy Leeson is Leaving the Building
I Shouldn’t Say This, But … this podcast has taught me more than I could have ever imagined. And this episode is going to be my last. At least for a while. When I started the podcast 4 years ago, I couldn’t have imagined the journey it would take me on, the conversations it would generate or the...
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S5 Ep14: We are all influencers: Natalie Wills
Natalie Wills is the Global Director of Marketing at Zalando and a fellow advocate for the power of social media for good. In this episode, we discuss: - The importance of authenticity online - Why we are all influencers - What we can learn from the way young people use social media - The...
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S5 Ep13: Entrepreneurship, community and the joy of work: Matt Clements and Giles Harrison
Matt and Giles founded Sculpd alongside their business partner Guy Vero at the peak of Lockdown, and have since sold over 100,000 at-home pottery kits. Beyond that, they’ve built partnerships with some of the most influential brands in the UK, including Bloom & Wild, Missoma and Papier. In this...
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S5 Ep12: Creating Change & Communities with Social Media: Daisy Morris
Daisy is the person behind The Selfhood - who makes digital interactions feel more human and puts connectivity at the heart of content strategies for brands and their audiences. She birthed The Selfhood after noticing a huge gap in the market for business owners and creatives to understand social...
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S5 Ep11: Social media's role in the mental health fight: James Routledge
James Routledge co-founded Sanctus - a purpose-driven organisation that supports employee mental health through proactive and preventative one-to-one coaching in the workplace. He is also the author behind ‘Mental Health at Work’ - a book filled with stories, learnings and guidance for anyone on...
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S5 Ep10: The Anxiety Coach: Chloe Brotheridge
Chloe Brotheridge is an Anxiety Hypnotherapist, Coach, Podcast Host and Author who is dedicated to helping women free themselves from anxiety. In this episode, we discuss: - The importance of distinguishing your dream from the one’s being pushed by other people - Tips for a more purposeful and...
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S5 Ep9: Social Media & Activism: Gina Martin
Gina is an activist, author and artist who uses her platforms to encourage real-world change. In this episode, we discuss: - The uncomfortable reality of activism - The intersection of social media and activism - The importance of setting work/life boundaries - The changes social media companies...
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S5 Ep8: Social Media for Good: Jay Flynn
Jay Flynn founded the Virtual Pub Quiz back at the start of the pandemic, and is living proof of the power of social media to be used for good. In this episode, we discuss: - Jay’s incredible journey from pub landlord to household name (and the social media mistake that started it all) - The...
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S5 Ep7: Do I Have Productivity Dysmorphia? Anna Codrea-Rado
Anna Codrea-Rado is a journalist, author and podcaster whose article ‘Do I have Productivity Dysmorphia?’ has changed they way both I and so many others view our achievements. In this episode, we discuss: * The impact social media is having on our view of success * The importance of finding joy…
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S5 Ep6: Social Media and Personal Branding: Ash Jones
Ash is the Founder of personal branding agency Great Influence, and part of Social Chain’s founding team. The man behind the personal brands of the likes of Steven Bartlett and Julian Hearn, his experience and knowledge of social media as a tool for good is second to none. In this episode, we...
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S5 Ep5: Comparison Culture: Lucy Sheridan
Lucy Sheridan is the world’s first and only comparison coach, using her work and the online community she has built to to empower others into live comparison free lives. In this episode, we discuss: - The role social media plays in fuelling comparison culture - The importance of getting to know...
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S5 Ep4: Ending Online Abuse: Seyi Akiwowo
Seyi Akiwowo is an absolute powerhouse. Through her charity Glitch, she is working hard to create a kinder, safer, more robust digital sphere. In turn, Seyi is empowering people to advocate for others whilst raising a generation of digital citizens who will carry these lessons into the future. In...
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S5 Ep3: The Importance of Authenticity: Gary Neville
There’s no social media presence more authentic than Gary Neville’s. In this episode, we discuss: - The importance of Footballers having an authentic social media presence - THAT Manchester United interview - His hopes for the digital world his daughters are growing up in - Where the curriculum…
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S5 Ep2: Behinds the Scenes of Social Media: Alex Holmes
Alex Holmes has dedicated his career to making both schools and the digital sphere a safe space for young people. Deputy CEO at the Diana Award and advisor to the likes of TikTok, Facebook, Twitter and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, Alex’s knowledge of social media and the issues facing...
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S5 Ep1: How to harness the power of YOU: Tiwalola Ogunlesi
Tiwalola Ogunlesi is using her platform to fight the generation cycle of low self-esteem, making sure that this generation of women and girls grow to be the most confident yet. In this episode, we discuss: - How to harness the power of you - Tips for improving your self-confidence, combatting...
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S5: Season 5 Trailer
I Shouldn’t Say This, But … Season 5 is coming VERY soon. With each episode featuring a brand new guest, it’s set to be our biggest and best yet! I can’t wait to share the first one.
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S4 Ep25: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…your side hustle could change your life.
In this week’s episode, I talk to the wonderful Elizabeth Ogabi about the realities of creating your own side hustle, the significance of long-term vision in setting work/life boundaries and her fantastic new book ‘Side Hustle in Progress: A Practical Guide to Kickstarting Your Business.’ It was...
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S4 Ep24: I Shouldn’t Say This, But … Leaders need to be honest about the fact they don't know everything
In this week’s episode, I dive into the realities of leadership. I talk about the difficulties that come with leading a team through a pandemic, the silent struggle of perfection and the pressure I personally feel to deliver for my team. There is a false sense of expertise surrounding leadership...
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S4 Ep23: I shouldn’t say this, but … I’ve been suffering with chronic pain since the age of 18.
In this week’s episode, I speak to the brilliant Rachel Carrell, founder of Koru Kids. We have a really candid conversation about the realities of living with chronic pain and the desire people have to hide their struggles. We also dive into Rachel’s fantastic business, looking at childcare as a...
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S4 Ep22: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…we can make social media a positive place.
In this week’s episode, I dive into the positive side of social platforms. There are some obvious issues that need to be addressed across them all. Namely issues of trolling and abuse, which need to be dealt with quickly and with severity. But I’m not sure that it’s productive to let these issues...
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S4 Ep21: I shouldn’t say this, but … taking a personal step back allows the mission to move several steps forward.
In this week’s episode, I speak to the fantastic Jamie Crummie; co-founder and director of the amazing Too Good To Go. We talk about everything from the value in detaching yourself from your ego when building a business and team, to the role of education in changing the culture of food waste in…
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S4 Ep20: I Shouldn’t Say This, But … leadership often comes at the expense of creativity.
In this week’s episode, I take a look at the way our brains change as we move into adulthood, and the impact this has on our creativity. I talk about my own experience of this and the way this change is mirrored as we move up in our careers. I also raise some big questions, like can you move...
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S4 Ep19: I shouldn’t say this but...I have to work at finding balance - every day
In this week’s episode, I speak to the fabulous Emma Heal; Managing Director of alcohol free brand, Lucky Saint. We talk about her incredible career history, the importance of fitting your own life jacket first and how Emma perceives the role of Managing Director. We also take a look at why “I’m...
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S4 Ep18: I Shouldn’t Say This But … I used my anti-depressants as a crutch.
In this episode, I talk candidly about my experience with situational depression and the journey I’ve been on with anti-depressants. I discuss how it felt first being prescribed them, right through to how it feels now that I’m coming off them, as well as the importance of doing so effectively.…
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S4 Ep17: I Shouldn’t Say This, But...I’m Struggling To Take My Own Advice.
Cate Sevilla is my spirit animal. In this episode we talk about Cate’s journey through huge companies, including Google, and how she came to write her incredible book, ‘How to Work Without Losing Your Mind’. We touch on the role that companies play in supporting us, and why it might not be what…
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S4 Ep16: I Shouldn't Say This, But...my brain crashed.
In this episode I talk to High Performance Expert & Psychiatrist, Dr T. We start this amazing conversation with WHY - why we’re both invested in preventing burnout and helping deal with crisis’. We also talk about how we both deal with being people pleasers but the positives this has brought to...
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S4 Ep15: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…sometimes I think, "what would I do if I were a man?"
In this episode I speak to the wonderful Tessa Clarke from OLIO - an app that exists to prevent food waste by connecting people. We have a very honest conversation about what it was like raising millions in investment for the business as a woman, we explore how important having a diverse business...
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S4 Ep14: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…I don’t want to work at home forever.
The office vs WFH debate continues. In this episode, I talk about which companies are in which camp when it comes to where and how they want to work. I also talk about what model we’re looking to implement at Social Chain but why, in reality, everyone’s working model should be different. We’re...
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S4 Ep13: I Shouldn't Say This, But...My Ambition Can Be Toxic
If you're looking for some guidance on your own personal development, this is the episode for you. This week's podcast is with the amazing @Alice ter Haar and Alice shares an amazing realisation - what she thought she wanted wasn't ACTUALLY what she wanted, and how she built her business, Badass...
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S4 Ep12: I Shouldn’t Say This, But…stop telling me everything ‘will be fine’.
There are over 100 million #goodvibes posts on Instagram alone. But how much positivity is too much? We’re often met with ‘everything will be fine’ and ‘it could be worse’ when we express feelings of sadness, but sometimes this has the opposite of a positive effect. Joined by our podcast…
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