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Identity Work

The podcast for high achievers who seem to have it all, yet still feel something’s missing. Co-hosts Stephen and Adam bring humor, honesty, and a touch of mid-life wisdom to conversations about how work shapes our sense of self, and how we can reshape it to find greater meaning in work and life.With careers spanning consulting, private equity, start-ups, and entrepreneurship, they share research-backed insights and real-world stories that help uncover new ways to drive more meaning each day. We’re excited to have you join us on this journey!

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    Ep 74 | Am I Enough?

    Why can we accomplish ten things and only think about the one we left undone?In this episode, Adam and Stephen wrestle with the persistent feeling that they are falling behind at work, at home, and in life. Adam shares how competing priorities, unfinished house projects, and an imaginary better version of himself left him wishing for a 36-hour day. They explore research showing why criticism and failure stick more powerfully than encouragement, and whether deliberately remembering our wins can help counteract that tendency.The conversation turns to Max Lucado’s You Are Special and its story of stars and dots. Adam and Stephen consider the uncomfortable possibility that freedom from criticism may also require loosening our dependence on praise. They discuss receiving feedback without turning it into an identity, defining what would make a day successful, and committing everything left unfinished to God.TakeawaysWe often compare ourselves to a fictional version who is better than us at everything and constrained by nothing.Bad is stronger than good. Criticism, failure, and unfinished work naturally command more of our attention than encouragement and progress.Remembering a win is helpful, but lasting security cannot come from placing more stars on ourselves.If we want the dots to stop sticking, we may also need to let go of our dependence on stars.Choosing two priorities can give a day a clear definition of success, even when many other tasks remain unfinished.Our value does not rise and fall with our productivity, feedback, or ability to keep every ball in the air.Chapters00:00 - The Question: Am I Enough?01:35 - Competing With an Imaginary Version of Yourself02:39 - When Every Priority Feels Essential05:22 - Wishing for a 36-Hour Day06:47 - Why Bad Is Stronger Than Good09:20 - Practicing Daily Self-Encouragement12:08 - Why One Criticism Erases Ten Compliments13:25 - The Stars and Dots of You Are Special16:21 - Can We Release Criticism Without Releasing Praise?18:01 - Committing Everything Left Undone19:53 - Defining What Makes Today Successful22:03 - Seeing Yourself Through a Father’s Eyes24:06 - AI Corner: Unleashing Claude in Slack28:26 - Using AI to Bring More Fun to Work29:53 - Delve Deck: Frivolous Hills to Die On31:27 - Listener ReflectionListener ReflectionWhat might change if you allowed both affirmations and criticisms to stick a little less?

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    Ep 73 | How Much Work is Enough? with Griffin Davis

    For the first in-person episode of Identity Work, Adam is joined by his friend and podcast superfan Griffin Davis. Stephen is absent, so Griffin receives the full Adam Beasley Experience: one microphone, two coffee mugs, and whiskey in the home office.Griffin recently left The Home Depot, just two months after earning a promotion, to co-found Novora Communities with his best friend. He shares how he evaluated the risk and why he believes the opportunity is worth the leap.The conversation then turns to a question at the center of Griffin’s new season: Do high achievers have to work long hours? Drawing from Four Thousand Weeks, Adam and Griffin discuss the efficiency trap, accepting that we are finite, and the parts of life we give up whenever we choose to work more.Along the way, Griffin explains Novora's mission to improve renters’ financial literacy, predicts what the national debt means for the next decade, and joins Adam in questioning whether AI companies can defend trillion-dollar valuations.TakeawaysEvery career decision reveals what you value. Griffin left a promotion, stability, and strong career prospects because entrepreneurship, meaningful impact, and working with his best friend mattered more in this season.You can take a risk without ignoring the downside. Griffin and his wife reviewed their expenses, calculated their runway, and named the worst-case scenario: if the business fails, he gets another job.Efficiency does not empty the to-do list. Completing more tasks often creates more emails, responsibilities, and expectations. Everything will never be finished.Your calendar should reflect your actual values. Long hours may be worthwhile during a particular season, but they should serve something you deliberately chose instead of comparison, pressure, or the desire to appear successful.Chapters00:00 - The First In-Person Identity Work Episode02:21 - Who Is Griffin Davis Outside of Work?06:02 - Comcast, The Home Depot, and Career Decisions13:10 - Leaving a Promotion to Become an Entrepreneur16:39 - Building a Business with Your Best Friend18:05 - Novora's Mission and Business Model21:39 - Do High Achievers Have to Work Long Hours?23:34 - Four Thousand Weeks and the Efficiency Trap25:52 - The Infinite Versions of Ourselves28:10 - Retroactive Shame vs. Present-Day Choice32:18 - Do Your Actions Reflect What You Value?34:35 - Comparison, Success, and Celebrating Your Friends37:05 - Griffin’s Advice for Aspiring Entrepreneurs39:34 - Trend Spotter: America’s $40 Trillion Debt44:17 - AI, Cheaper Models, and Trillion-Dollar Valuations50:20 - Delve Deck: Griffin’s Elementary School Glory51:11 - Is Meaning Found or Created?Listener ReflectionIf you added 15 more hours of work to your week, what would you gain, what would you lose, and would that trade reflect what you actually value right now?

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    Ep 72 | Finding Identity In The Right Places with Kevin Ainsworth

    What if the peace is not just an aspiration, but something we can actually experience in our work today?Adam and Stephen sit down with Kevin Ainsworth, founder of GuideCap Partners, to discuss calling, ambition, contentment, and the burden of believing every outcome depends on us. Kevin explains why meaningful work can be part of our identity, why money fails to deliver the happiness we expect, and how defining success protects us from absorbing the world’s definition by default.The conversation then turns to Good Word, the faith-informed AI platform Kevin is building to help people navigate real-life questions with biblical wisdom. They explore AI sycophancy, the danger of creating a god in our own image, and how technology might help us become more human without replacing the relationships and practices that make us human.TakeawaysBelieving every outcome depends on us creates a burden we were never meant to carry.Calling does not require knowing the full plan. It can mean faithfully following where God leads today.Work is not spiritually inferior to ministry. Using our gifts to serve others reflects how we were created.If we do not define success intentionally, we will unconsciously inherit the culture’s definition.AI can provide remarkable wisdom, but it can also affirm our assumptions and help us create a god in our own image.Chapters00:00 - Welcome and Introducing Kevin Ainsworth02:47 - Releasing the Burden of Outcomes05:00 - Is the Easy Yoke Actually Possible?07:09 - Calling, Career, and Daily Dependence12:05 - Should Our Identity Be Connected to Work?17:08 - Why the Most Blessed Are Often the Most Depressed22:26 - Adam Defines Success25:01 - Contentment and the Power of Enough30:44 - Peace Is a Present Reality32:50 - Building a Faith-Informed Alternative to ChatGPT38:30 - What AI Can Teach Us About Wisdom41:50 - How Good Word Works46:55 - Purposeful Work or Unhealthy Striving?51:20 - How AI Could Make Us Less Human53:21 - Is Meaning Found or Created?55:00 - Closing ReflectionListener ReflectionWhat outcome are you carrying as if it depends entirely on you, and what would it look like to work faithfully while releasing control of the result?

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    Ep 71 | Managing Comparison as a High Performer

    Comparison Is the Thief of JoyWhy does someone else’s success make us question our own lives?A former Bain coworker announces a massive startup fundraise. A younger colleague climbs the career ladder faster. Someone on LinkedIn seems to be building the future with AI while we are still figuring out how to write a good prompt. We see the headline and immediately wonder, “Why isn’t that me?”In this episode, Adam and Stephen explore why we compare ourselves to the people closest to us, why we cannot separate someone’s success from the sacrifices that made it possible, and how comparison can become either envy or admiration. They also discuss self-forgetfulness, our desire for praise, the tension between ambition and faith, and the freedom of believing we are not being judged nearly as often as we imagine.In AI Corner, they explain looping, autonomous AI agents, overnight workflows, and why even active AI users may be much further ahead than they think.TakeawaysWe need a scorecard. When life and work do not offer an objective measure of success, we use the people around us as the measuring stick.We compare ourselves to headlines. We want one impressive part of another person’s life without accepting the pressure, sacrifice, and responsibility surrounding it.Comparison is not automatically destructive. The same success that produces envy can also produce admiration, motivation, and gratitude.Other people think about us less than we imagine. Much of our fear of judgment comes from an audience that exists primarily in our own minds.A secure identity removes pressure. When our worth does not depend on achievement or approval, we can work hard without making every outcome a referendum on our value.Chapters00:00 Super fans and podcast editing problems01:26 Why comparison damages meaningful work04:45 Why we compare ourselves to close peers05:59 Is comparison inherently bad?08:10 You cannot trade for one part of someone’s life10:24 Social media and self-forgetfulness11:46 Our endless desire for praise14:00 Identity, approval, and God’s grace16:22 Ambition, faith, and releasing control20:06 Stewardship, pride, and appearing successful23:19 Looking beyond someone else’s headline25:25 AI Corner: What is looping?29:23 China’s cheaper open-source models31:28 Mosquitoes, air conditioning, and meaningful work33:23 Listener reflectionListener ReflectionWhen you notice yourself comparing, consider the person’s whole life instead of the single headline you envy. Then choose one part of your own life and reflect on why you are grateful for it.

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    Ep 70 | Should You Sleep In or Protect the Morning Routine?

    Back pain and late work nights have left Adam stuck on the same question most mornings at 4:45 a.m.: snooze for more sleep, or get up and protect the routine? Adam and Stephen dig into the research on sleep and morning routines, unpack the "worst of both worlds" cycle Adam has fallen into, and land on two very different default answers.Adam breaks down the six research-backed pillars of a good morning (timing, sunlight, movement, hydration, nutrition, screens, plus mindfulness) and his own step-by-step routine. Then he and Stephen split hard on late nights: Stephen sides with more sleep, Adam almost always protects the routine, and he revisits his old, now-tempered belief that "sleep is for the weak." Along the way: sunrise alarms, a very salty electrolyte habit, and a heart scare that ended with a doctor's prescription to eat more salt.TakeawaysConsistency beats quantity. The research Adam found suggests a steady bed-time and wake-time may matter more for meaningful, energized work than the total number of hours slept.Doing both badly is the real risk. Setting an early alarm and then snoozing it for an hour combines lost sleep with a broken routine, which turned out to be worse than committing to either option on its own.A good morning routine has well-worn pillars. Consistent timing, sunlight, movement, hydration, nutrition, limited screens, and mindfulness keep showing up across the research, even if no one's studying the ideal trade-off between sleep and a solid routine.Grace matters as much as discipline. Both hosts land in the same place: aim for a consistent routine, but don't let missing it become one more thing to beat yourself up over.Chapters00:00 - Welcome04:39 - What Research Says about Sleep and Morning Routines04:51 - What the Research Actually Says08:05 - The Worst of Both Worlds: Snoozing an Early Alarm09:17 - Adam's Morning Routine13:43 - The Six Pillars of a Good Morning Routine15:51 - Screens, Sunrise Alarms, and Getting Salty18:53 - A Scary EKG and an Unlikely Prescription20:47 - Late Nights: Sleep More or Protect the Routine?22:17 - "Sleep Is for the Weak": Adam's Controversial Take26:07 - Bedtime vs. Actually Falling Asleep27:03 - Takeaways: Consistency and Grace28:22 - AI Corner: ChatGPT/Codex and a CEO's Data Warning33:14 - Delve Deck: When Did You First Feel Old?35:58 - Listener ReflectionListener Reflection: What's one thing you could change about your morning routine to make it more consistent or research-backed? And if your routine already feels solid, how could you give yourself more grace on the mornings you don't follow through?

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    EP 69 | The Strange Emotions of Missed Upside

    Adam made $3,000 selling World Cup tickets and got to attend two games for free. It was an objectively great outcome. Then ticket prices doubled a few days later, and all he could think about was the additional $7,000 he could have made.Adam and Stephen explore the strange emotions of missed upside, why our brains remember losses more vividly than wins, and how counterfactual thinking can turn success into disappointment. Adam shares the exercise that finally helped him regain perspective: writing down his financial mistakes alongside the good decisions he rarely gives himself credit for.The conversation expands beyond money into work, leadership, and the ways high achievers quickly move past accomplishments while endlessly replaying mistakes. Adam and Stephen discuss how teams can create more meaningful celebrations, including visible records of wins, surprise afternoons off, and the possibility of commemorating every new client with a trip to Wendy’s.TakeawaysMissed upside feels like loss.Even when nothing was taken from us, seeing what could have happened can overpower the satisfaction of what actually happened.Our brains preserve mistakes and discard good decisions.Failures create stories, consequences, and emotional weight. Good decisions often quietly work, then disappear from memory.Compare your losses with your wins.Writing down both sides of the ledger can reveal how small one mistake is within the fuller story of your life.Celebration needs more weight.A Slack message and a few emojis rarely carry the same emotional force as a failure. Teams may need tangible, memorable rituals that interrupt work and make success feel real.Keep a visible record of what is going well.A running list or physical board of wins helps fight the tendency to evaluate a month, project, or career based only on its most painful moments.Chapters00:00 - Making $3,000 and Feeling Terrible03:48 - Loss Aversion and Missed Upside05:13 - The Exercise That Restored Perspective09:03 - Why We Remember Mistakes at Work10:17 - Midyear Reviews and Celebrating Forgotten Wins15:07 - The Power of Stopping Work to Celebrate17:47 - Why Nobody Feels Sorry for Adam19:51 - The Unexpected Joy of the World Cup22:26 - Trend Spotter: Fable, Taylor Swift, and AI24:56 - Delve Deck: Elementary School Glory29:40 - Listener ReflectionListener ReflectionWhat loss or missed opportunity are you currently replaying, and what wins have you forgotten to include in the story?

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    Ep 68 | When Pain Changes Who You Are

    What happens when pain keeps you from doing the things that make you feel like yourself? After reinjuring his back and barely sleeping for six weeks, Adam wrestles with losing his ability to work out, focus, write, and be present.Adam and Stephen discuss how health shapes identity, why “my identity is in Christ” can feel abstract, and what it means to be loved when you do not feel like yourself.TakeawaysYou often do not realize something is part of your identity until you lose it. Working out, waking up early, writing, and being present felt like habits. When pain took them away, Adam felt like he had lost parts of himself.Pain affects more than your body. It consumes attention, sleep, energy, patience, and your ability to engage with the people and work you care about.Being loved is a more tangible way to understand identity in Christ. God’s affection does not change based on Adam’s productivity, discipline, health, or ability to show up as his best self.Pain can deepen empathy. Experiencing constant pain helped Adam understand why people with chronic pain talk about it often. It may not be the only thing happening in their lives, but it can become the loudest.Asking someone how they are doing matters. Friends, family members, and coworkers could not fix Adam’s back, but remembering his pain and following up made him feel seen and cared for.Chapters00:00 - Welcome03:35 - The Night That Led Adam to Write04:53 - Herniating and Reinjuring a Disc09:23 - When Health Interrupts Meaningful Work09:56 - Losing the Habits That Made Adam Feel Like Himself12:06 - Is Your Identity Really in Christ?16:18 - Being Loved When You Are Not Productive18:20 - Health Is Wealth22:33 - What Pain Teaches Us About Empathy25:45 - Walking, Movement, and Doing What You Can27:07 - Trend Spotter: AI Regulation and Model Fusion32:30 - The World Cup and Singing Country Roads35:41 - Closing ReflectionListener Reflection: What is one physical thing your body allows you to do that you rarely stop to appreciate?

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    Ep 67 | Finding Meaning in Buying a House

    Adam and Stephen are back after a run of guest episodes to talk about Adam’s recent home-buying journey, the unexpected satisfaction of painting a house, and why physical work can feel so different from knowledge work.What starts as a conversation about DIY house projects turns into a deeper reflection on meaningful work, providing for your family, financial “chains,” and the strange mixture of joy and obligation that comes with putting down roots. Adam shares why painting rooms with Christy has felt surprisingly meaningful: clear progress, a team he loves, a challenging goal, and the rare chance to use his hands after years of mostly brain-based work.The conversation also gets honest about the other side of homeownership: bigger monthly obligations, maintenance surprises, mowing the lawn forever, and the way buying a house can change how work feels. For Adam, earning money has started to feel less like something to be suspicious of and more like a tangible way to provide stability and home for his family.From there, the guys wander into AI updates, Claude’s newest model, design fixation, and why AI can push us too quickly into optimization before we have really explored the problem.TakeawaysMeaningful work often has visible progress.Painting a room gives immediate feedback in a way most knowledge work does not. You can see the before and after, and that tangibility matters.Working with people you love changes the work.A hard project can feel meaningful when it is shared with someone you enjoy, even when the work itself is messy, tiring, or inefficient.Using your hands can make work feel more whole.Adam reflects on how disconnected modern work can feel from the body, and why manual work can reconnect mind, effort, and visible output.Homeownership creates both purpose and chains.Buying a house can make work feel more meaningful because the money you earn provides something concrete. But it also reduces flexibility and raises the stakes.AI can create design fixation.When AI gives you a polished answer quickly, it can tempt you to refine the first idea instead of asking whether it is the right idea at all.Chapters00:00 - Welcome Back and House Projects03:06 - Why Painting Feels So Satisfying07:03 - Why Adam Did Not Hire Painters09:11 - How Buying a House Changed Work12:31 - Purpose, Chains, and Providing16:23 - Stephen’s House-Buying and Career Reflections20:52 - The Hidden Jobs of Homeownership24:03 - AI Corner: Claude, Model Names, and Agreeableness27:18 - Claude Design and the Risk of Design Fixation30:07 - Delve Deck: What Country Would You Move To?32:24 - Listener Reflection and Next Week’s GuestListener ReflectionWhat is something outside of your job that currently feels like meaningful work, and what does that reveal about the kind of work your soul is hungry for?

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    Ep 66 | How to Live a Meaningful Life with Emma Wood

    What if meaning is not something you find, earn, or finally arrive at, but something you design one moment at a time?This week, Adam and Stephen are joined by three-time guest Emma Wood to discuss How to Live a Meaningful Life by Bill Burnett and Dave Evans. The book applies design thinking to one of the least spreadsheet-friendly questions imaginable: how do you build a life that feels meaningful?The conversation starts with a surprising critique of two words high achievers love: impact and fulfillment. Emma explains why both can become traps, especially when they make meaning feel transactional, measurable, or always just out of reach.From there, the episode moves into wonder, gratitude, surrender, flow, Maslow’s forgotten final tier, and the quiet pressure to optimize ourselves into people who finally feel complete.Along the way, Adam wrestles with how to experience wonder during a normal workday, Stephen reflects on “surrendering the timeline but not the vision,” and Emma offers a simple but powerful image for holding ambition with open hands instead of white knuckles.TakeawaysMeaning is built, not found. Design thinking reframes purpose as something you prototype through small experiments, not something you discover once and then execute perfectly.Impact can be a trap. When meaning depends on measurable outcomes, legacy, or visible transformation, it can start to feel abstract and disconnected from daily life.Wonder requires slowing down. You do not see what you are looking at; you see what you are looking for. Curiosity, surprise, and presence make wonder more accessible in ordinary moments.Surrender is not apathy. The opposite of control is not giving up. It is holding the vision while releasing the need for the timeline to unfold exactly your way.Gratitude gets deeper when it becomes relational. Instead of only naming things you are grateful for, notice the qualities, relationships, and experiences underneath them.Chapters00:00 - Welcome Back Emma Wood02:06 - Designing a Meaningful Life03:58 - Why Impact and Fulfillment Can Become Traps10:18 - Wonder, Attention, and Ordinary Workdays20:10 - Surrendering the Timeline, Not the Vision27:22 - Gratitude, Control, and Creating Space38:25 - Self-Optimization, Flow, and the Stories We TellOurselves50:13 - Delve Deck and Where to Find EmmaReflection questionWhere in your life are you gripping for control, and what would it look like to hold the same vision with a more open hand?

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    Ep 65 | How Embracing Doubt Improves Decisions with UVA Professor Dr. Parmar

    What if doubt is not a weakness to overcome, but a skill to practice?This week Adam and Stephen are joined by Professor Bobby Parmar from the UVA Darden School of Business, award-winning professor, researcher, and author of Radical Doubt. Bobby studies how leaders make decisions, especially when the path forward is unclear, uncomfortable, or full of competing interpretations.The conversation starts with a simple but surprisingly uncomfortable question: why do smart, high-achieving people know the best decision-making practices and still avoid using them? We rush to the first good option. We skip comparison. We call discomfort “intuition” and move on. Bobby argues that the missing piece is often our relationship with doubt.Instead of treating doubt as a signal that something is wrong, Bobby reframes it as the moment where learning begins. Doubt is the burn on the eighth rep. It is uncomfortable, but it is also where strength gets built.The episode moves from real estate decisions and career pivots to AI, MBAs, meaningful work, and the future of careers. Along the way, Bobby makes the case that a meaningful life is not built by finding certainty, but by skillfully embracing doubt with other people.TakeawaysDoubt is the presence of multiple conflicting interpretations. It is not just insecurity or imposter syndrome. Doubt shows up when there are multiple plausible ways to read a situation and no obvious right answer.School and early career success often reward certainty, speed, and correctness. But the most meaningful decisions in life and work usually require becoming better-answer makers instead.Don't sit in uncertainty forever. Identify what you do not know, gather useful data, run small experiments, and build enough confidence to act.Used poorly, AI becomes another shortcut that gives you an answer. Used well, it can help you test assumptions, find weaknesses, explore alternatives, and treat your first instinct as a hypothesis.Big career decisions get easier when you break them into experiments. Instead of asking, “Should I leave healthcare and start over?” ask smaller questions: What part of this work gives me energy? Where do I want more mobility? Can I shadow someone, interview someone, or test a new direction before making the leap?Meaning is created in groups, not by individuals alone. We create it through shared struggle, relationships, and work that matters.Chapters00:00 - Welcome Professor Bobby Parmar04:55 - Why Doubt Is Hard for High Achievers05:34 - The Definition of Doubt10:27 - Too Little Doubt, Too Much Doubt, and Failure Modes12:41 - Building Confidence by Kicking the Tires15:17 - Can AI Help Us Deal with Doubt?18:16 - A Mini Case Study on Career Change21:44 - Optimal Stopping, House Buying, and Knowing When to Commit24:32 - Why Bobby Did Not Write a “Five Easy Steps” Book29:59 - What MBA Students Are Feeling Right Now33:07 - Career Advice for Bobby’s Daughters36:05 - What Meaningful Alumni Careers Have in Common39:36 - Is Meaning Found or Created?40:47 - Where to Find BobbyListener ReflectionWhere in your life are you waiting for certainty before you act, and what small experiment could help you learn your way forward instead?

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    Ep 63 | Death, Taxes, and the Sunday Scaries

    Adam noticed something strange during one of the most demanding stretches of his career: the Sunday Scaries had quietly faded. This episode is a genuine attempt to figure out why, and what it reveals about the relationship between identity, daily rhythm, and how we experience the line between work and the rest of life. The conversation moves from practical reflection into deeper territory, touching on legacy, parental perspective, and what it actually means to accept that work will always carry some pain.TakeawaysWhen weekends carry responsibility too, Mondays hit differently. Having a child meant the weekend stopped being a concentrated pocket of total freedom, which made the drop back into work feel less like a fall.Running toward something changes the experience of stopping work. Adam noticed he no longer quit work because he wanted to escape it. He quit because something joyful was waiting, and that reorientation changed everything.Acceptance of pain takes longer than you think. It took Adam roughly two years of consciously planting the idea that work will always have difficulty before his subconscious actually believed it. The shift isn't intellectual, it's slow and emotional.Your recovery time from stress is worth tracking. The gap between experiencing a hard moment and returning to a grounded sense of identity is shrinking for Adam. Watching that gap narrow is its own form of growth.You don't need kids to smooth out the week. Deliberate hobbies, morning pleasure without productivity goals, and building something outside of work all create the same buffering effect. The key is joy that isn't a reaction against work.The ripple you make is often invisible to you. Referencing Henri Nouwen, Adam points out that your great-grandparents likely shaped your life profoundly even though you probably don't know their full names. Proximity and love carry more legacy than achievement.Chapters00:00 - Intro and Listener Feedback03:29 - Sunday Scaries: Where Did They Go? 06:00 - Three Reasons the Fear Faded 12:16 - Kids, Legacy, and Reorienting Around Work 18:56 - Accepting That Work Always Hurts a Little 23:29 - Advice for Those Still Struggling 30:20 - Delve Deck: Flight Delay Complaints 34:28 - Trend Spotter: Housing Costs and the Squeeze 37:57 - Teaser: The Math of "Making It"Listener Reflection: What would your week look like if you deliberately added one moment of pure, goalless pleasure to each morning, not as a habit hack, but just because you wanted to?

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    Ep 62 | Stresses of Time Management

    Adam and Stephen reckon with a quietly uncomfortable truth: knowing something intellectually and actually living it are very different things. Inspired by 4,000 Weeks, Adam shares how understanding human finitude hasn't freed him from the pressure of his to-do list, and how AI has made it measurably worse, turning every five-minute window into a high-stakes productivity opportunity. The episode is an honest look at what happens when your tools outpace your capacity to set limits.TakeawaysHead knowledge isn't heart knowledge. Understanding that your to-do list will never be finished doesn't automatically lower your stress. That shift takes repetition, lived experience, and time, not just a convincing book.AI inflates the perceived value of every minute. When you can solve a full day's problem in five minutes with AI, even a bathroom break starts to feel like lost productivity. That's not efficiency, that's a new kind of trap.Batching communication works until the volume is too high. Blocking off Slack and doing deep work sounds right in theory, but if your inbox fills faster than your batching windows can clear it, you've just moved the stress, not reduced it.The only blocker left is you. AI has eliminated most waiting on others, which sounds great, but it also means every bottleneck is now your time and your bandwidth.A hard stop time is the most underrated productivity tool. Committing to "done at 5:30, no matter what" is not a small tweak. When every minute feels valuable, a non-negotiable end time is the only structural defense that works.Reframing "have to" as "get to" is practical, not just positive thinking. In a season of widespread layoffs and AI disruption, approaching work with genuine gratitude isn't soft, it's a stabilizing posture that high performers can actually build on.Chapters00:30 — Intro01:15 — The Pains of Nearing Infinity02:40 — Why 4,000 Weeks Hasn't Changed Much05:26 — The Thesis: You Are Finite08:23 — Slack, Deep Work, and the Same Problem13:17 — How AI Makes Every Minute Feel Precious19:24 — A Day Without AI22:35 — The Future of Work and Isolation26:22 — What Feels Like Therapy29:35 — Transpotter: Gratitude and the WNBAListener Reflection: Where in your work life are you telling yourself "I have to" when the truer, harder thing would be to say "I get to"?

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    Ep 61 | Managing the infinite to-do list

    Adam and Stephen take a full-length look at Oliver Burkeman's 4,000 Weeks, a book that quietly dismantles the productivity obsession most high achievers carry without questioning. The episode centers on a single uncomfortable truth: the to-do list was never meant to be finished, and the stress of trying to finish it is the problem, not a sign you need a better system. What emerges is a conversation about acceptance, distraction, mortality, and why the fastest workers often feel the most behind.TakeawaysThe list will never be empty. The belief that you'll one day clear your plate and coast is a fantasy that creates daily disappointment. Accepting incompleteness isn't giving up, it's accurate.Efficiency breeds more demand, not more relief. Responding faster to Slack gets you more Slack messages. Speed is not the path to calm.We subconsciously want to be infinite. The frustration you feel when Claude takes five minutes instead of two isn't rational. It's the same instinct that made people furious about 30-minute flight delays. We adapt fast and then want more.Distraction isn't laziness, it's avoidance of a deeper discomfort. Burkeman argues we reach for small tasks to escape the quiet awareness that time is finite. Understanding the motivation makes it easier to set it aside.Choose your problems, don't try to eliminate them. Life stays full of challenges no matter what. The better question is whether the problems in front of you are ones you actually want to be solving.Deep work principles hold up. Burkeman's practical advice lands in the same place as Cal Newport: limit active projects to three, protect time for meaningful work, and let some things drop rather than diluting everything.Chapters00:14 — Listener Mail and Last Episode02:13 — Introducing 4,000 Weeks04:42 — The To-Do List Never Ends07:53 — How Adam Actually Tracks Tasks10:45 — Our Desire to Be Infinite16:12 — Distraction as Coping Mechanism21:49 — Time as Ownership and Identity24:50 — What Actually Changed Day to Day29:01 — Trend spotter: Claude Mythos, AI-generated slides, and how PR changes with AIListener Reflection: Where in your day are you chasing the illusion of a finished list, and what would you do differently if you truly believed it would never be empty?

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    Ep 60 | The Dichotomy of AI: Working More Hours More Efficiently

    Adam and Stephen get honest about the paradox at the center of their AI experiences: they're both more productive and more consumed than ever before. What starts as a conversation about efficiency quickly turns into something deeper, anchored by Oliver Burkeman's 4,000 Weeks and its uncomfortable thesis that the faster we go, the more we resent the fact that we can't go infinitely fast. The episode is really about what happens when a tool that makes work more fun also makes it harder to stop working.TakeawaysThe productivity is real, and so is the overtime. AI is increasing Adam's efficiency by 2-3x, but the gains aren't being pocketed as free time; they're being reinvested into higher organizational expectations.AI is making work more fun by killing the parts you didn't like. We spend more time on creative and strategic thinking now that admin drudgery gets offloaded to Claude. The joy isn't abstract; it's the feeling of coming back from a meeting to find a day's work already done.The closer you get to infinite, the more finite you feel. Burkeman's 4,000 Weeks nails the trap: when AI finishes four hours of work in seven minutes, an extra 45 seconds feels unbearable. Speed doesn't cure the craving for limitlessness; it sharpens it.Your benchmark is always someone ahead of you, and that's a lie. If you're on a paid AI plan, you're already in the top fraction of a percent of users worldwide. The person running five autonomous agents still feels behind the person running fifty.The frontier is 10x harder than the first 5%. Bleeding-edge AI tooling that takes 40 painful hours to set up today will be a one-click signup in three months. For most people, steady learning beats sprinting to the edge and burning out.If you're not processing change out loud, you're probably just absorbing anxiety. Having this podcast to force reflection creates a foundation to process work through the lens of how it is already meaningful. Chapters00:00 - Intro: The Joy and Overwork of AI01:14 - What Prompted This Conversation 03:29 - Where the Joy Actually Comes From 06:46 - Adam's AI Operating System09:33 - The Articles that Inspired the Newsletter10:05 - Brain Fry and Diminishing Returns 11:24 - Perfectionism as a Side Effect 16:18 - 4,000 Weeks and the Trap of Speed 20:16 - Tangible Examples of AI Wins 23:19 - The Existential Dread of Falling Behind 27:02 - You're Further Along Than You Think 29:31 - How This Podcast Has Changed Us 36:23 - Delve Deck: Throwback Thursdays and TGIF 37:59 - Trendspotter: TSA Line Chaos 39:27 - Closing ReflectionListener Reflection: When AI saves you an hour, where does that hour actually go, and is that where you want it to go?

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    Ep 59 | The One Week Sabbatical

    Adam and Stephen revisit the sabbatical conversation, but with a twist: what if you don't need seven months abroad to get the benefit? After Adam's wife took a one-week retreat and came back changed, the two wrestle with what actually makes time off restorative versus just time off. The episode lands on a surprisingly grounded insight: the value of a sabbatical isn't in finding the right answer, it's in resetting what you expect work to give you in the first place.TakeawaysYou don't need to quit your job. A week in a quiet, natural setting with no laptop and no notifications can do much of what a months-long sabbatical does. The key is removing noise, not maximizing duration.Sabbaticals are not vacations. A vacation has an itinerary or a beach chair. A sabbatical has intention: a question or tension you're sitting with, even if you don't resolve it.Your brain has two noise channels. One is work itself. The other is all the life maintenance that fills your head: groceries, broken appliances, errands. You only need to eliminate one of those channels to create real space for reflection.Recalibrated expectations might matter more than a new job. Adam came back from his sabbatical and took essentially the same role. The difference was he stopped expecting work to feel like magic and started expecting it to be a place for challenge, learning, and connection.The 80/10/10 framework deserves a denominator. If 80% of work is neutral, you're optimizing for how good that 80% feels, divided by how high your expectations are. Lower the denominator and the whole equation changes.Chapters00:00 - Sabbatical Round Two 02:03 - Structuring Restorative Time Off 07:48 - Sabbatical vs. Vacation 09:24 - Christy's Retreat and Its Surprise 11:09 - Meaning Is a Feeling, Not a Job 14:04 - The 80/10/10 Work Framework 18:23 - Why This Episode Resonated 26:25 - Trendspotters: AI Layoffs 29:28 - Delve Deck: What should be normalize? 33:17 - Closing ReflectionListener Reflection: What would you actually need to remove from your week, not add to it, to create the kind of quiet where real thinking happens?

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    Ep 58 | Is a productivity addiction holding you back from promotion?

    This episode tackles one of the quietest career crises high achievers face: the moment when the habits that made you successful start to hold you back. Adam opens up about a tension he's navigating — that the responsive, task-crushing, people-pleasing work style that earned him every promotion so far is the exact thing standing between him and the next level. Stephen and Adam unpack how identity shifts as you climb, why "does my boss like me?" eventually becomes insufficient currency, and what it actually looks and feels like to stop being a doer and start being a strategist, even when it's uncomfortable, even when you end up working until midnight anyway.Key TakeawaysEarly career runs on likability, and that's not a bad thing until it is. For most of your twenties and early thirties, the implicit promotion rubric is simple: Is this person generally capable and do people enjoy working with them? There's an inflection point where the game changes. At a certain level, career growth stops being about likability and starts being about owning a number, a budget, or a team outcome. The habits that made you great can become your biggest liability. Adam describes a specific trap: the emotional reward of clearing 100 small tasks in a day, and the guilt of ignoring a full inbox to do deep, strategic work that won't show results for a week. This is identity work in disguise. Your sense of competence and worth is tied to responsiveness, and unwiring that is genuinely hard, even when your boss explicitly tells you to stop.Letting go of reactive work is also the right thing for your team. The reframe that unlocked something for Adam is that doing long-term strategic thinking isn't a selfish career move dressed up as leadership. It's actually the higher-value contribution. Practical tool: Write your full responsibility list and show it to someone. Adam's most actionable move was writing down every single thing he felt responsible for and handing it to a trusted colleague for advice. From there, he looked for what he could hand off with a one-hour training and worked through the list one item at a time.Great managers measure success by the growth of the people around them. When Adam reflects on the leaders he's admired most, the common thread is simple: they saw your success as their success. ChaptersThe "Does My Boss Like Me?" Era (00:00 – 02:50)When Good Habits Become Liabilities (02:50 – 06:45)The Midnight Slack Spiral (06:45 – 11:30)Strategic Work Is the Team-First Move (11:30 – 15:00)Practical Steps to Reclaim Priorities (15:00 – 17:30)What Great Leaders Actually Do (17:30 – 22:00)The Claude vs. ChatGPT Moment (22:00 – 25:30)Robots and the Future of Work (25:30 – 27:05)Listener Reflection Question: What's one thing on your plate right now that someone else could do 80% as well as you, and what would it take to actually hand it off?

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    Ep 57 | Think and Grow Rich (or Miserable?)

    What if you could chase $10M in 10 years… but choosing not to made you feel like you’re wasting your potential? Adam and Stephen dig into the seductive promise (and hidden cost) of money-as-mission.In this episode, we review Napoleon Hill’s classic Think and Grow Rich and wrestle with why it’s both motivating and unsettling. Hill’s framework—clear desire, specific plans, confidence over fear, and surrounding yourself with a “mastermind”—feels directionally right. But the book’s obsession with money as the primary aim creates a spiritual and emotional tension: if you believe extreme outcomes are possible, does choosing family, faith, and balance become a kind of “failure”? Research agrees. Intrinsic goals (growth, relationships, contribution) lead to more life satisfaction than extrinsic goals (money/status/image).Stick around to the end to hear Adam's (un)surprising trend and his plunge in to AI life coaches.TakeawaysClarity + effort works—but the target matters. A specific goal and a plan dramatically increase your odds… yet a money-only target can hollow out everything else you care about.The dark edge of “potential.” Believing “I could do it if I sacrificed everything” can create shame when you wisely choose not to—especially when you’re juggling multiple meaningful goals.Control the inside, not the outside. Life can derail you (Brendan’s story is referenced), but you still have leverage over your internal world—your thoughts, focus, and responses.Chapters00:00 Intro + why money keeps showing up for high achievers02:00 Adam check-in: intensity easing, back to energizing work03:20 Why Adam read Think and Grow Rich05:00 The core tension: “I could chase extreme wealth… but I’m choosing not to”06:40 What the book argues: desire, plan, confidence, environment, “mastermind”09:50 Vision vs dollar goals: what real “titans” seemed to aim at13:15 Potential, tradeoffs, and the discomfort of choosing one mission16:00 Control, faith, and the inside vs outside world18:30 What Hill gets right vs wrong + intrinsic vs extrinsic goals20:45 Light wrap: next books + sci-fi / Project Hail Mary22:25 Fun segment: zombie apocalypse hideout23:45 Trend spotter: vibe coding + Adam builds Stephen’s paid reports app29:00 Personal AI life coach: uploading data, philosophy “readout,” use cases32:10 Closing reflection question: your vision for life

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    Ep 56 | Redefining the Dream Job with Brendon Marks, CEO of Capture H2O

    Welcome to another episode of the Identity Work podcast! This week we welcome CEO, career journeyman, long-time friend, and super fan Brendon Marks. Brendon is the CEO of Capture H2O, a company that provides water treatment services to some of the largest companies in the world. He joins us from San Diego, CA to discuss his career journey and the challenges he's experienced along the way. Our conversation covers Brendon's advice for the podcast, the impact of life challenges on work, reflections on work pressure, being the boss, establishing company culture, career pivots, entrepreneurship, trends in heating/cooling, and more. TakeawaysLife challenges reset our capacity and align our priorities, but overcoming them doesn't always bring a lasting perspective shiftDream jobs are still going to be 10% great days, 80% meh days, and 10% bad days. Shifting your mindset from expecting 100% amazing days to a more realistic perspective is key to experiencing meaning at work. Meaning in work can be found, created, or shared, and it often comes from the people you work with and the mission you're trying to achieve.Skill building in your twenties leads to meaningful work in your 30s Chapters00:00 Introduction06:16 Brendan's Advice and Reflections13:11 Work Structure and Time Tracking17:54 Reflections on Work and Pressure24:01 Being the Boss and Company Culture29:00 Career Pivots and Entrepreneurship37:30 Long-Term Career Perspective48:09 Effectiveness of LinkedIn Ads

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    Ep 55 | Coming Back to Our Identity Roots

    In this week's episode, Lexi Reiff joins us for a conversation on self-perception and identity. It's a dense but fun one! We discuss the impact of work on personal identity, exploring the evolving self-concept and the question of 'Who Am I?'. We reflect on the challenges of identity shifts and the cultivation of a sense of self, providing insights into the complex relationship between work and personal identity. The conversation covers identity across a range of ideas, delving into the exploration of personal identity and self-perception, discussing the concept of additive vs. subtractive identity, shifts in financial identity, LinkedIn identity and perception, and the intertwining of political identity and partisanship.TopicsThe impact of work on personal identity and self-perceptionShifts in personal identity over time. Are they good or bad? How do we manage them?AI (as always)Artists who's personal life ruin their musicChapters04:54 Exploring the Impact of Work on Identity10:00 Re-evaluating Identity and Evolving Self-Concept16:48 The Question of 'Who Am I?'22:08 Cultivating a Sense of Self27:01 Additive vs. Subtractive Identity32:46 Art and Identity39:56 Political Identity and Partisanship

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    Ep 54 | Our Insatiable Desire to Join the Inner Ring

    Ever felt outside of the 'room where it happens?' We have. This episode dives in to the power of the inner circle based on C.S. Lewis's article on our insatiable desire for joining increasingly exclusive groups. We discuss the power of inner circles, the struggles pursuing them, and better substitutes for that desire. We also delve into the challenges of managing a large quantity of work, the impact it has on individuals, and our evolving roles in the age of AI. Join us for another great episode of the Identity Work Podcast!TakeawaysDesire for inclusion in the inner circle can be a chief motive in work lifeAnchoring identity in the task itself rather than in external recognition is important for contentment Managing a large quantity of work can be overwhelming and challenging, leading to burnout and a sense of constant pressure.The future of work and consulting is evolving, with a focus on managing AI agents and the changing nature of job roles.Chapters00:00 Introduction 07:41 Desire for Influence and Approval from Others19:14 Anchoring Identity in the Task and Contentment in Work26:24 Managing a Large Quantity of Work32:39 The Future of Work and Consulting

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    Ep 53 | Wealthy, Successful, and Miserable with Coach Emma Wood

    In this episode, we discuss the NYT's article 'America's Professional Elite: Wealthy, Successful, and Miserable' with coach Emma Wood (our first returning guest!). We delve into the negative impact of compounding ease, how to 'friction max', the importance of living purposefully, how experimentation impacts meaning in work, and the challenges of finding authentic purpose. We also explore the fear of success and identity, life hacks and trends, setting intentions for 2026, and reflecting on personal growth.Join us for another episode of the podcast!Chapters00:00 Tying Work to a Broader Purpose28:17 The Importance of Relationships35:03 The Fear of Success and Identity43:26 Setting Intentions for 2026

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    Ep 52 | The Fine Line Between Challenge and Burnout

    It's challenging to balance work and family life, particularly during the busy holiday season. In this episode, we explore f feeling stretched between growth and exhaustion, the importance of recognition in the workplace to buffer burnout, and the components of good rest. The conversation also touches on the role of technology, particularly AI, in enhancing work efficiency, and some fun personal Christmas traditions. TakeawaysLiving in a busy world can feel both exhausting and rewarding.Recognition at work is crucial for preventing burnout.Good rest involves detachment, relaxation, control, mastery, meaning, and affiliation.Controversially, Netflix can serve as a form of restful detachment.It's important to have something to look forward to during busy times.Balancing work and family life requires thoughtful planning.Finding meaning in work can help sustain motivation during tough times.Appreciating the recognition you receive is essential for well-being.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Podcast Highlights02:06 Living in the Zone: Growth vs. Exhaustion06:00 The Balance of Work and Family Life09:54 Research Insights on Burnout and Recognition15:29 Understanding Rest: The DRAMA Model21:31 Finding Meaning in Work and Life27:13 Final Thoughts and Christmas Traditions

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    Ep 51 | Navigating Work-Life Balance in Parenthood

    In this lively discussion about the challenges of balancing work and parenthood, we discuss the importance of recovery, self-care, and maintaining connections through traditions like Christmas cards. We explore the concept of severance in the workplace, share personal anecdotes about parenting, and reflect on the importance of living in the present. The conversation is filled with insights and practical advice for high achievers navigating the complexities of parental life.TakeawaysWork-life balance is a continuous struggle for many parents. Recovery and rest are essential for improving capabilities and outcomes.Switching off work as parents requires intentional effort and time. It allows time for self-care, even in a busy schedule.Living in the present is vital, as these moments will be missed in the future.It's okay to seek help and advice from others when feeling overwhelmed.Creating boundaries between work and home life can enhance overall well-being.Efforts in both work and parenting need to be seen and appreciated to feel meaningful.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Listener Engagement03:02 The Importance of Christmas Cards05:48 Work-Life Balance and the Concept of Severance08:37 Recovery and Energy Rebuilding in Parenthood11:13 Strategies for Switching Off Work13:59 Finding Time for Self-Care16:53 The Challenges of Parenting and Work19:54 Living in the Present22:46 Final Thoughts and Takeaways

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    Ep 50: Writing an Identity Statement w/ Kyle

    In this 50th episode of the Identity Work Podcast, Adam and Stephen welcome Kyle, head of brand transformation at a large apparel company. The conversation centers around the theme of identity, exploring how individuals can discover and live out their true selves in both personal and professional contexts. Kyle shares his journey of understanding his identity as a 'general in love' and how this has shaped his approach to leadership, parenting, and career decisions. The discussion emphasizes the importance of encouragement, community, and seeking God's guidance in defining one's identity and purpose.TakeawaysIdentity is a core aspect of who we are and how we live. Living out your identity transforms your approach to work and relationships.Kyle's identity statement is 'a general in love', which leads to fearlessness and encouragement.Creating margin in your life is essential for finding opportunities to live out your identity well.Community plays a vital role in affirming and shaping our identities.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Celebration of 50 Episodes02:57 Understanding Identity: Kyle's Journey05:57 Living Out Identity in Daily Life08:50 Coaching and Leadership: A General in Love11:51 Exploring Unique Identities14:34 Strengths and Superpowers in the Workplace17:44 Personal Reflections on Identity Statements21:11 Navigating Fame and Identity25:46 Career Conversations and Guidance31:06 Creating Opportunities for Others31:28 Lessons from Youth and Self-Confidence38:50 Trends in the Workplace41:07 Finding Meaning in Work42:41 Encouragement for ListenersSend us a text

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    Ep 49: Your Home Shapes Your Work

    We explore how our living environments significantly influence our work lives, emphasizing the importance of comfort and energy in achieving meaning and productivity at work. It discusses the balance between personal and professional life and how these aspects intertwine to shape our overall well-being.TakeawaysOur lives are influenced by various factors, including our environment. Thus, the energy we bring to work is affected by our comfort and joy in our home situation.Understanding the interplay between home and work can enhance our lives. You should live in an environment that is personalized to you and creates mental safety for you to enter work with the energy needed to make it meaningful. Send us a text

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    Ep 48: When Should You Quit?

    Stephen and Adam discuss the complexities of finding meaning in work, the importance of job crafting, and when it might be necessary to pivot to a new role. They explore personal experiences of leaving jobs too soon (and too early), research insights, and practical advice for navigating job satisfaction and moral dilemmas in the workplace. The conversation emphasizes self-awareness, resilience, and the value of learning in one's career journey.TakeawaysCreating meaning in your job is essential and can enhance job satisfaction, but self-awareness is key to knowing when to pivot.It's important to give new jobs time to adjust. Trust your instincts when making career decisions.Research shows high performers with high confidence may leave jobs sooner.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Personal Updates02:51 Exploring Meaningful Work and Job Crafting05:33 When to Stay or Leave a Job08:39 Navigating Job Satisfaction and Moral Dilemmas11:51 Research Insights on Job Retention14:33 Reflecting on Past Job Decisions17:19 Learning and Growth in Career Choices20:15 Final ThoughtsSend us a text

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    Ep 47: Finding a Career, Not a Job, with CFO Larry Angelilli

    Larry Angelilli, former CFO of Moneygram, joins us to share his reflections on retirement, identity, and the pursuit of meaningful work. Larry discusses his career journey, the challenges he faced, and the importance of finding passions outside of work. He emphasizes the role of curiosity in career development and offers insights into the evolving landscape of cryptocurrency and stablecoins. If you're looking for practical advice on navigating your own career path and finding fulfillment in your work, tune in!TakeawaysThe peak of your career can feel behind you after retirement, so it's important to identify yourself outside of your career as well.Finding work that invigorates you is essential for job satisfaction because careers are marked by challenges and crossroads. Curiosity drives career growth and opportunities. Follow it where it leads.You need to be known and recognized in your job to feel fulfilled. Sometimes its better to be a star on a mediocre team than to get lost playing for a Super Bowl.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Larry Angelilli03:03 Reflections on Retirement and Identity06:11 Pursuing Passions Beyond Work09:07 Career Journey and Crossroads18:02 Navigating Career Challenges24:45 Finding Meaningful Work33:19 The Role of Curiosity in Career40:14 Trends in Cryptocurrency and Stablecoins48:04 Advice for Career FulfillmentSend us a text

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    Ep 46 - Managing Stress and Pressure

    This week we delve into the complexities of managing pressure and stress in both personal and professional contexts. We explore the differences between stress and pressure, share personal experiences of feeling overwhelmed, and discuss the importance of mindset in navigating challenging situations. The conversation also touches on self-imposed pressure, the significance of finding peace amidst chaos, and insights into future trends in the workplace.TakeawaysStress is self-imposed, while pressure is external. Challenge pressure is beneficial pressure pushing you to something meaningful while hindrance pressure is useless pressure that creates stress for the sake of stressSelf-imposed pressure can be a significant source of stress for high achievers but accepting it and listening to where it is pointing you can lead to greater focus and clarity.Don't let small things become big things. Recognize the finite amount of cares you have and only give some to things that matter to you. Chapters00:00 Introduction to Pressure Management01:53 Understanding Stress vs. Pressure04:51 Experiencing Pressure in Real Life08:27 Types of Pressure: Challenge vs. Hindrance13:26 Managing Pressure and Mindset19:01 Self-Imposed Pressure and Expectations23:47 Finding Peace Amidst Pressure28:22 Trend Spotters and Future InsightsSend us a text

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    Ep 45: Seesawing between ambition and contentment

    This week we delve into the theme of contentment, exploring its nuances and how it contrasts with happiness. Adam shares his personal experiences during parental leave, highlighting the diverse reactions he received from others about his time off. The conversation gets into the complexities of ambition and contentment, particularly for high achievers, and how gratitude plays a crucial role in finding peace in the present. We also discuss a thought-provoking story about a Buddhist monk that challenges conventional views on contentment and passivity, and practical ways that you can cultivate more presence in everyday life.TakeawaysContentment is a separate emotion from happiness.Experiencing both joy and boredom is normal in parenting.Contentment can coexist with ambition and goals.Gratitude is essential for fostering contentment.High achievers often struggle with balancing contentment and ambition.Contentment is about accepting the present moment.Mindfulness can help in recognizing and appreciating what we have.The journey towards contentment requires effort and training.It's important to hold loosely to timelines while maintaining vision.Finding balance in life is a continuous process.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Contentment02:54 Exploring the Catalyst for Contentment05:51 Understanding Contentment vs. Happiness08:39 The High Achiever's Dilemma11:59 Navigating Ambition and Contentment15:57 The Story of the Buddhist Monk19:59 Finding Balance in Life23:29 An Exercise to Build PresenceSend us a text

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    Ep 44: From performance driven hedge funds to living in the present w/ Matt Higbie

    Matt Higbie joins the show and shares his journey from a hedge fund analyst to a financial planner, discussing the challenges of performance anxiety, the importance of identity beyond work, and the value of personal relationships in financial planning. He reflects on his career transitions, the impact of AI on the industry, and the significance of family life. If you're wondering how to find the balance between high performance and family, or contemplating a job change, this is the episode for you.TakeawaysYou are not alone in your struggles to create meaningful work.Identity is found in personal beliefs, not in work.Performance anxiety is a common struggle in high-pressure jobs.Networking and talking to others helped Matt find his next career path.AI is changing the landscape of financial planning.People value personal relationships in finance more than ever.Curiosity is key in finding a fulfilling career. Chapters00:00 Introduction and Guest Background02:58 The Impact of the Podcast on Matt's Life05:40 Career Transition: From Hedge Fund Analyst to Wealth Management08:38 Navigating Career Decisions and Performance Anxiety11:23 Finding Identity Beyond Work14:40 Networking and Job Search Strategies17:26 Managing Performance Anxiety in New Roles20:22 Tactical Approaches to Reducing Anxiety26:04 Identity and Career Transitions28:17 Family Life and Parenting29:12 Career Advice for the Next Generation34:50 Trends in Financial Planning and AI40:04 Finding Meaning in Work41:55 Splurges and Life ExperiencesSend us a text

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    Ep 43: The Myth of the Dream Job

    Explore the concept of dream jobs and the reality behind them. Stephen and Adam discuss the importance of understanding the day-to-day tasks involved in any job and how to find satisfaction in work through job crafting. The conversation emphasizes the need to embrace the grind rather than chase an idealized version of a dream job, offering practical advice for listeners, including college students entering the workforce.TakeawaysYour dream job is often a fantasy, not reality.Job satisfaction comes from understanding daily, mundane tasks.Job crafting, making small tweaks, can enhance your work experience.Focus on what you enjoy in your current role.Career paths are often a journey, not a destination.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Travel Tips to Oregon02:00 Chasing Your Dream Job08:58 The Reality of Dream Jobs17:44 Job Crafting for Satisfaction22:37 Advice for College Students Entering the WorkforceSend us a text

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    Find your identity before you 'do' anything with Vineet Rajan, CEO of Forte

    Vineet Rajan, a former Marine Intelligence officer and now CEO of Forte, shares his transformative experience of redefining identity through introspection and faith. From the challenges of leaving a structured military life to embracing the uncertainties of entrepreneurship, Vineet's story is a testament to the power of aligning personal values with professional aspirations. Tune in to explore how understanding who we are can lead to a more fulfilling and purpose-driven life.TakeawaysIdentity is shaped by our experiences and perceptions.Asking 'Who am I?' is crucial for personal growth.Spending time with God can lead to profound insights about our identity.The order of being and doing is essential for success.Practical steps include journaling, prayer, and seeking guidance from others.The journey to self-discovery is often non-linear and requires patience.It's important to recognize that we are not defined by our performance.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Vineet and Forte01:59 The Journey of Identity and Purpose09:55 Bridging Identity and Action16:59 Practicing Being with God19:41 Tactical Steps to Discovering Identity22:48 Conviction and Principles28:42 Identifying Strengths and Weaknesses29:14 The Journey to Startup Founder35:57 The Birth of Forte40:25 Understanding Forte's Mission and ImpactSend us a text

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    What's the point of winning? Reflecting on identity after Scottie Scheffler's interview

    In this episode of the Identity Work Podcast, we delve into Scottie Scheffler's viral interview that challenges the conventional notions of success. Despite his dominant position as the world's number one golfer, Scheffler reveals that winning tournaments and chasing trophies don't define his identity. Instead, he finds true fulfillment in his family, faith, and being a good husband and father. Join us as we explore the profound insights from Scheffler's perspective and discuss how identity is a multifaceted journey beyond professional achievements.TakeawaysScotty Scheffler's interview highlights the tension between success and personal fulfillment.Achievement does not define one's identity or worth.Family and personal relationships are paramount to true happiness.Quality time with loved ones is more important than quantity.Identity is a complex mix of various roles and passions.Work can enhance personal growth and family life when balanced correctly.The societal pressure to achieve can lead to dissatisfaction.The journey of life is more significant than the destination or achievements.Reflection on identity is crucial during life transitions.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Scottie Scheffler's Viral Interview02:26 Scottie's Perspective on Identity10:17 The Tension of Achievement and Fulfillment15:52 Work-Life Balance and Identity20:17 Personal Reflections on Identity and Parenting27:08 The Journey of Self-Publishing a Children's BookSend us a text

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    Navigating Long Hours at Work

    In this episode of the Identity Work Podcast, Stephen and Adam delve into the intricate relationship between identity and work, sparked by recent comments from Scotty Scheffler. They discuss the societal pressures of maintaining a perfect image, the challenges of working long hours, and the importance of finding meaning in one's job. The conversation highlights the mental health implications of burnout and offers practical advice for navigating tough work situations, emphasizing the need for reflection, gratitude, and open communication with colleagues.Chapters00:00 Exploring Identity and Work11:49 The Burden of Long Hours23:22 Finding Meaning in Work28:47 Gratitude and ReflectionTakeawaysIdentity is deeply intertwined with our work.People often feel pressured to present a perfect image.Long working hours can lead to burnout and dissatisfaction.Finding meaning in work is essential for mental health.It's important to take time to reflect on your work situation.Shared experiences with colleagues can foster empathy.Gratitude can help mitigate feelings of burnout.Understanding the context of your work situation is crucial.It's okay to seek help and talk about your struggles.Work-life balance is vital for overall well-being.Send us a text

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    Navigating Work Existentialism After Turning 30

    In this episode of the Identity Work Podcast, hosts Adam Beasley and Stephen engage with guests Mac Bailey and Paul Kiekhaefer in a deep conversation about work existentialism, the challenges of turning 30, and the search for meaningful work. The discussion explores personal experiences with mortality, the journey into government work, and the realization that meaningful work is often created rather than found. The guests reflect on the importance of community, relationships, and the shift from macro aspirations to micro realities in their careers. They also tackle the balance between dreaming big and accepting the realities of life, emphasizing that true fulfillment often comes from personal connections and the impact we have on those around us.TakeawaysReflecting on mortality and purpose after turning 30Meaningful work is often about the impact on immediate communities.The journey into government work can be disillusioning.Finding joy in work is crucial for personal fulfillment.Relationships and community engagement are key to a meaningful life.Dreaming big is important, but reality often tempers those dreams.Meaningful work is created through personal effort and engagement.It's possible to find joy in mundane tasks if approached with the right mindset.The arc of life can curve towards happiness if we allow it. Chapters00:00 Introduction to Work Existentialism02:12 Facing Mortality at 3006:20 The Search for Meaningful Work11:34 Paths to Government Work17:30 The Reality of Government Work23:21 Reflections on Achievement and Happiness28:50 The Ripple Effect of Energy31:39 Dreaming Big: Expectations vs. Reality34:36 The Role of Influence in Change38:20 The Journey of Desires and Ambitions40:40 Being vs. Doing: A Spiritual Perspective42:44 The Parable of the Sower: Measuring Impact49:19 Creating Meaningful WorkSend us a text

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    Confronting Imposter Syndrome

    Stephen and Adam delve into the complexities of imposter syndrome, exploring personal experiences, cognitive dissonance, and the impact of self-doubt on professional life. They discuss strategies to combat these feelings, emphasizing the importance of self-worth and the acceptance of positive feedback. The conversation highlights the need for humility and the significance of recognizing one's unique contributions in the workplace.Chapters00:00 Introduction and Listener Appreciation03:21 Exploring Imposter Syndrome05:57 Cognitive Dissonance and Self-Perception08:49 Defining Imposter Syndrome12:01 The Impact of Imposter Syndrome14:30 Strategies to Combat Imposter Syndrome17:41 Finding Meaning and Self-Worth20:24 Final Thoughts and ReflectionsTakeawaysImposter syndrome manifests as a fear of being found out.Positive feedback can sometimes exacerbate feelings of inadequacy.Cognitive dissonance plays a significant role in self-perception.The impact of imposter syndrome can lead to burnout and emotional exhaustion.Seeking validation from mentors can help combat feelings of fraudulence.Focusing on personal strengths can alleviate imposter syndrome.Humility can be a double-edged sword in the context of self-worth.Understanding that everyone experiences self-doubt can normalize these feelings.Recognizing and believing in positive feedback is crucial for self-acceptance.Send us a text

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    From Immigrant to Director of MBA Coaching at UCLA with Mef Shebi

    In this episode of the Identity Work Podcast, Stephen and Adam interview Meff, a career coach and author, who shares his journey from being a first-generation immigrant to a successful career advisor. Mef Shebi discusses the importance of understanding one's identity and values in creating a meaningful career. He emphasizes the need for curiosity, exposure, and alignment with personal values to find fulfillment in work. Through his experiences, he illustrates how volunteering and authentic connections can lead to discovering one's true purpose. The conversation also touches on frameworks for meaningful work and the shifts in workplace expectations among younger generations.TakeawaysIdentity is critical when making career choices.Cultural perspectives shape how we view work and identity.Success does not always equate to fulfillment.Volunteering can uncover hidden passions and purpose.Frameworks can guide individuals in finding meaningful work.Curiosity, exposure, and values are key to career satisfaction.Meaning in work is actively created, not passively found.The workplace is evolving, with a focus on purpose and well-being.Personal stories can inspire and guide others in their journeys.Taking small actions can lead to significant changes in one's career.Chapters00:00 Introduction to Mef's Journey04:15 Cultural Perspectives on Identity and Work10:04 The Script of Success and Its Consequences17:14 The Turning Point: Stress and Realization24:17 Exploring New Paths: From Public Policy to Coaching30:04 The Birth of a Book: How's Work?32:55 Crafting a Vision for Meaningful Work36:42 The Interplay of Curiosity, Exposure, and Values43:54 Finding Meaning in Work: A Framework for Action50:24 Creating Meaning vs. Finding Meaning in Work54:26 Taking Action Towards Meaningful Work59:15 Outro recording Stephen.wavConnect with MefHow's Work: https://www.mc2careercoaching.com/book/p/hows-work LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/meftehe/Send us a text

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    Imposter Syndrome and Athletic Brewing -- Navigating Self-Worth at Work

    SummaryIn this episode of the Identity Work podcast, Stephen and Adam discuss the journey of Athletic Brewing, the concept of meaningful work, and the importance of feedback and self-worth. They explore the components that contribute to meaningful work, including autonomy, beneficence, competence, and relatedness. The conversation delves into the challenges of receiving feedback, the struggle to find purpose in work, and the significance of community and balance in achieving a fulfilling professional life. The episode concludes with reflections on how to navigate the complexities of work and personal identity.TakeawaysMeaningful work is often a result of struggle and overcoming obstacles.Autonomy and beneficence are crucial components of meaningful work.Feedback can significantly impact self-perception and confidence.It's important to accept compliments graciously as a form of connection.Finding purpose in work can be a long and challenging journey.Community and balance play vital roles in achieving meaningful work.The gap between feedback and self-worth can be difficult to navigate.Exploring the broader purpose of work can enhance job satisfaction.Reflecting on personal strengths can lead to a more fulfilling work experience.Chapters00:00 Introduction03:01 The Catalyst Behind Athletic Brewing06:04 Meaningful Work: The Four Components08:55 Personal Definitions of Meaningful Work11:59 Feedback and Its Impact on Self-Perception14:57 Navigating Praise and Identity17:48 Exploring Beneficence and Relatedness20:53 The Journey to Finding Purpose23:34 Tunnels to Meaningful Work26:36 Final Thoughts and Reflections33:36 OutroSend us a text

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    From Wine to Consulting to Coaching: Finding Meaning with Emma Wood

    In this episode of the Identity Work Podcast, Emma Wood, an executive coach, shares her journey from the wine industry to consulting and ultimately to coaching. She discusses the importance of people in the workplace, the challenges faced by entrepreneurs, and how to navigate identity in relation to work. Emma emphasizes the need to focus on desires rather than societal 'shoulds' and explores the balance between finding and creating meaningful work. Her insights provide valuable guidance for anyone seeking fulfillment in their career.Key TakeawaysThe importance of people in work cannot be overstated.Like coaching for Emma, creating more meaningful work often feels like a natural progression.Awareness and acceptance are key to navigating career changes.Desires can serve as a blueprint for what we are meant to have.Focusing on what energizes us leads to greater satisfaction.The 'shoulds' in our lives create unnecessary pressure.Finding meaningful work involves both luck and active creation.It's essential to loosen attachment to outcomes for better performance.Coaching can help individuals discover their true desires. How to Reach Emmahttps://www.linkedin.com/in/emmamwood/ https://caterpillarcollab.com/ Send us a text

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    Navigating The Pressure Of Early Wins In Your Career

    In this episode of The Identity Work Podcast, we share some lovely fan mail before exploring the complexities of early career success, sparked by Adam’s surprising find in People Magazine—an article about child stars. We explore the feeling of having "made it" young but still questioning your path, a sentiment echoed by research on stressed PhD candidates who surprisingly value competence over less work.We discuss creating mental space, from Adam’s sabbatical insights to Stephen’s simple coffee shop ritual. Then, the conversation bursts into an enthusiastic discussion about AI, as Adam reveals how tools like Claude are not only changing his workflow (goodbye SQL!) but also how we think about skills and confidence.Podcast Production by Podders: https://podders.ioSend us a text

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    Why Sharing Lunch With Coworkers Is a Bigger Deal Than You Think

    In this episode of The Identity Work Podcast, we explore what truly makes us happy at work, with special guest Lexi Reiff! We discuss the World Happiness Report and a surprising finding: the perception of kindness across the entire company is a bigger predictor of workplace happiness than your individual boss or even your own competence. We talk about generosity and how expecting kindness from others, often a result of being kind yourself, boosts your own happiness. Lexi shares a fantastic real-life example of her team's daily shared lunches fostering joy and connection, highlighting research on the power of eating together. Even Steven admits he’s often eating at his desk but is inspired to change!Where can you find or create more kindness (and maybe share a meal) at work this week?Podcast Production by Podders: https://podders.ioSend us a text

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    Unretirement, New Dad Brain, and Why Your Job Might Matter More Than You Think

    In this episode of The Identity Work Podcast, we start with Adam's new life as a father! Expect many 3 AM insights for future episodes! We also reflect on lessons from recent guests: Daniel's inspiring contentment and Robin's wisdom on bringing your identity to work. Then, we explore "unretirement," drawing from research like "Why Retirees Are Returning to Work."We discuss why people return to work for purpose, community, and to combat isolation, even if financially secure. This shift from chasing early retirement to finding ongoing meaning resonates deeply. Stephen shares how one question from our talk, "If I had $50 million and had to stay in my job, how would I feel?" is already changing his daily perspective, reducing pressure and boosting confidence. How would financial freedom change your view of your current work?Podcast Production by Podders: https://podders.ioSend us a text

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    It's Okay To U-Turn Your Career Path | Interview with Kevin Hollingshead

    In this episode of The Identity Work Podcast, we talk with Kevin Hollingshead about his unique career journey. He started in private equity, took a sharp turn into nonprofit work mentoring college students, and eventually landed back in the tech industry, navigating multiple roles along the way. Kevin talks honestly about this journey, describing it like a pendulum swinging as he figured out what truly mattered to him beyond external expectations.You'll hear how he learned to blend his drive to build and tinker with his deep value for people and relationships, finding a better fit in mission-oriented tech startups. Kevin shares practical insights on discovering work you enjoy (and are good at) alongside people you respect, emphasizing that career paths are flexible and U-turns are normal. His experience is a great reminder that meaning often comes after trying things out. (And yes, we even get into Mike Bibby news.)Connect with Kevin:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-hollingshead/Podcast Production by Podders: https://podders.ioSend us a text

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    Is Your Ladder on the Right Building? | Interview with Robin Pou

    In this episode of The Identity Work Podcast, executive coach, author, and former entrepreneur Robin Pou joins us to explore the twists and turns of career journeys and how not to tie your identity solely to your job title. Robin shares his own nonlinear path from lawyer to builder, offering wisdom on knowing what you don't want, being opportunistic yet patient, and the crucial difference between cheerleading and truly putting courage into others (and yourself!).He shares a vulnerable story about how losing a job title felt like losing his identity, driving home why our sense of self needs a foundation stronger than our current role. Discover why defining your own success is vital, how identifying your strengths anchors your identity (plus a special offer from Robin to help!), and why betting on yourself is the ultimate career move. Robin leaves us with powerful advice, especially for high achievers feeling the pressure. So, where is your ladder placed right now, and are you ready to bet on yourself?Podcast Production by Podders: https://podders.ioSend us a text

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    From Stripe Hypergrowth to Stay-at-Home Dad

    In this episode of The Identity Work Podcast, we chat with Daniel, whose interesting journey took him from Google and the explosive growth phase at Stripe to becoming a full-time stay-at-home dad. We explore the intentional, often counter-cultural choices he made along the way—like leaving his work laptop at work even amidst startup intensity—driven by faith, family, and a search for deeper meaning than corporate ladders offered.Daniel shares the powerful concept of setting a financial 'finish line,' a practical strategy for aligning money and time with core values, offering insights valuable for anyone wrestling with 'enough.' His experience challenges us high-achievers to consider what we're performing high at and highlights how small, daily decisions truly shape a meaningful life (plus, we debate the merits of 11 AM salads).Podcast Production by Podders: https://podders.io Send us a text

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    Releasing The Pressure To Solve Everything

    In this episode of The Identity Work Podcast, we explore why some questions aren’t meant to be answered and how letting go can bring relief and renewed focus. We reflect on our own inclination to chase grand philosophical puzzles—sometimes at the cost of our day-to-day well-being.Drawing upon insights from Ralph Waldo Emerson, we discuss how unanswered questions can pull us away from living in the present, while others can spark wonder and creativity. Along the way, we share honest anecdotes about laundry routines and missing socks, proving that even life’s mundane moments can hold depth and humor.Our conversation offers practical strategies for releasing the urge to solve everything, from simply accepting the unknown to practicing small, intentional steps in our current roles. Whether you’re wrestling with the big mysteries or the little ones, we hope our stories resonate.Podcast Production by Podders: https://podders.io Send us a text

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    Whose Desires Are You Chasing?

    In this episode of The Identity Work Podcast, we dive deep into the fascinating question: “Whose desires are you chasing?” We explore how our unconscious imitation of others’ desires shapes what we want, whether it’s a career, home, or lifestyle.Inspired by the concept of mimetic desire, we discuss real-life decisions such as selecting a neighborhood or choosing between public and private education for children. Adam shares candid insights on how his understanding of mimetic desire has led him to reflect deeply on aligning his aspirations with values exemplified by Jesus, including generosity, confidence, deep friendships, and purposeful work.Join us as we unpack the subtle yet profound ways our social circles influence our ambitions and happiness.Podcast Production by Podders: https://podders.io Send us a text

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    Finding Wisdom in the Sunday Scaries

    In this episode of The Identity Work Podcast, we explore the unexpected wisdom hidden in our Sunday scaries. Host Steven and guest Adam share candid stories about the low-grade anxiety that creeps in as the weekend fades and the work week looms. They examine how cultural expectations and the loss of choice in our daily routines can trigger these feelings, even when we enjoy our jobs.The conversation touches on practical strategies such as mapping out the week, adopting shutdown routines, and even finding humor in the chaos. Adam reflects on insights from books like The Six Working Geniuses and The Comfort Crisis, which remind us that sometimes a little anxiety can signal a need for change or self-reflection. The hosts encourage us to see these moments as opportunities for growth and connection. Podcast Production by Podders: https://podders.io Send us a text

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    Living in the Present, One Brick at a Time

    In this episode of The Identity Work Podcast, we peel back the layers of our modern struggle with distraction and the relentless pull of our phones. Steven and Adam get candid about their battles with focus, sharing humorous yet honest stories of phone-induced chaos and the surprising remedy found in a simple brick-like device.They reveal how something as mundane as a magnetic block on the fridge can transform fleeting moments of distraction into opportunities for genuine connection and deep work. From the frustration of endless scrolling to the realization that regular, intentional breaks are essential, the conversation navigates the challenges of balancing productivity with rest.They share practical strategies—like batching emails and using analog tools—to help reclaim control of our time.Podcast Production by Podders: https://podders.io Send us a text

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    How Living Your Strengths Can Unlock a Life of Meaning

    In this episode of The Identity Work Podcast, we dive deep into the cycle of meaning and explore how authentic living fuels success and lasting impact. Our conversation unpacks an interesting formula that is centered on your strengths, community, and balance and transforms everyday actions into meaningful work. We share candid stories, from a memorable job search to a cherished birthday dessert memory, illustrating how knowing your virtues can spark positive emotions and better outcomes. Along the way, we discuss practical strategies like turning off the noise to listen to your inner voice, using personality assessments, and even asking someone what strengths they see in you.This episode challenges you to reflect on how authentic behavior creates a ripple effect in your personal and professional life.Podcast Production by Podders: https://podders.io Send us a text

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ABOUT THIS SHOW

The podcast for high achievers who seem to have it all, yet still feel something’s missing. Co-hosts Stephen and Adam bring humor, honesty, and a touch of mid-life wisdom to conversations about how work shapes our sense of self, and how we can reshape it to find greater meaning in work and life.With careers spanning consulting, private equity, start-ups, and entrepreneurship, they share research-backed insights and real-world stories that help uncover new ways to drive more meaning each day. We’re excited to have you join us on this journey!

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Adam Beasley and Stephen Reiff

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