PODCAST · arts
IN TOO DEEP
by Jack Rowland
A podcast where I talk to creatives and creative thinkers who have passed the point of no return with their ideas and endeavours. Theme song by Kodiak Kid.
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207 - DALIA BURGOIN
Dalia is the co founder of extraordinaries - an organisation training in extraordinary abilities, such as telekenisis, telepathy and mind sight. Mind sight is what Dalia specialises in. The ability to “see” or perceive the world around us without the use of our eyes. A stretch for the materialst minded, mind blowing and reality shifting if true. https://extra-ordinaries.com/
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206 - JANICE MCAFEE
Janice McAfee is the widow of the late John McAfee. Janice joins me to discuss the circumstances around John's death, his arrest and their final year together of life on the run.
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205 - SHANE MAUSS
Today we welcome back to the podcast, for the third time, the incredibly funny and insightful comedian Shane Mauss. Shane has just released an incredible special, free for all to see on YouTube, called Trips. It’s a two part comedy special all about psychedelics, filmed at Meow Wolf in the United States and live animated by the incredible Micahel Strauss. His science podcast "Here We Are" is available on all podcast platforms. www.shanemauss.com https://in-too-deep.simplecast.com/
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204 - DARRYL ANKA
Darryl Anka is a well known channel of an alien entity who goes by the name Bashar. Messages from Bashar have been transmitting through Daryll Anka for over 40 years, offering guidance, wisdom and even predictions of future events including alien disclosure and alien contact. Bashar has built up a huge following over the last four decades with his captivating charismatic speeches and in depth interactions with his followers. https://www.bashar.org/
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203 - DENE HINE
Confessions of a crop circle maker! Dene Hine is a crop circle maker, based in the UK. He has been imprinting his designs in crops for decades now and is finally prepared to reveal the secrets behind these magnificent works of art. Instagram: @d_duende
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202 - BORIS WALTER
Boris is a Perth based psychotherapist, hypnotherapist and specialises in past life regressions. His practice doesn’t shy away from the supernatural or esoteric ideas. Through talk therapy, building connection and guided altered states Boris allows his clients to dive deep into their subconscious to allow them to release their own spiritual, emotional or energetic blockages from within. https://www.boriswalter.com/
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201 - ALEX STEFAN
Alex Stefan is the cofounder of Extra-Ordinaries, an organisation that facilitates and trains people in psi-abilities. Telepathy, blind-sight and telekinesis are some of the abilities Extra-Ordinaries specialises in. Alex is also a trainer in telekinesis, the apparent ability to move or manipulate matter with ones mind. Instagram: @alex.iamxo https://www.extra-ordinaries.com/
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200 - BX
BX is a private investigator and online content creator. Within the last two years, BX has uncovered and exposed a dark online satanic cult known as 764. When she first discovered them, they were relatively unkown, and through her fearless work to uncover the individuals involved, the group has now become a top priority for the FBI, leading to over two dozen arrests. Trigger warning: disturbing subjects X: @bx_on_x
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199 - HARRY PACK
Harry Pack is a UK based artist who's work would be best described as psychedelic as fuck. His work reminds me of deep breakthrough levels of DMT, illustrating worlds inhabited by strange creatures such as prism elves, as he calls them, UFOs and nostalgic narratives. alternate dimensions fragmented into brightly coloured cartoon like shapes, drawing the viewer into an alluring and slightly unsettling psychedelic wonderland. https://www.harrypackart.com/ Instagram: @harrypackart @thepurpleufo @prismelves
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198 - RAK RAZAM
Rak Razam is best described as a mythic story teller. An author, a film maker, a journalist, a public speaker and psychonaut. Rak’s interests of exploration lie in psychedelics and shamanic use of plant medicines, and the great mystery of consciousness and our spiritual purpose. His film "Aya: Awakenings" documents Rak's journey into the world of Shamanism and Ayahuasca in the Amazon Jungle. www.rakrazam.com Instagram: @rakrazam
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197 - ANDY ROSS
Long time listeners of the show will be very familiar with todays guest, Andy Ross. Andy is an artist, a hunter and outdoorsman, always delivering with an epic story. The last 6-9 months however have been immensely challenging for Andy, to say the very least. Back in August, 2024, he underwent a lower leg amputation, removing a quarter of his right leg between the ankle and the knee. This conversation, Andy gives us the full breakdown of what happened, what its like to go through a life changing operation like this and what life looks like now on the long road to recovery. @livingspiritdesign
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196 - KY DICKENS
Ky Dickens is the host and creator of the hugely successful podcast "The Telepathy Tapes". "The Telepathy Tapes" is an investigation into the profound and unique abilities demonstrated by many non-verbal autistic children. The podcast follows the research of Dr Diane Hennacy Powell which indicates that many of these individuals demostrate telepathic abilities with family members, friends and each other, as well as a wide range of other extraordinary spiritual gifts. Many of these gifts and abilities fly in the face of conventional scientific understanding of consciousness, the mind and reality itself. "The Telepathy Tapes" is available on all podcast platforms. https://open.spotify.com/show/1zigaPaUWO4G9SiFV0Kf1c?si=f7f76c2bcfd543f4 https://thetelepathytapes.com/
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195 - JAMES B. JONES
Today we are joined by the legendary James Jones from "Love On The Spectrum". James featured in both seasons of the American version of the show and is without a doubt my favourite part of the show. He’s eccentric, funny, sweet, courteous, thoughtful, intelligent and just a great personality. Instagram: @jamesbjones87
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194 - JUSTINE MCALLISTER
Justine McAllister is a Melbourne based visual artist and muralist. She has just concluded her second solo exhibition titled “Romantic Rebellion” which was on show at 45 downstairs. The works are a vibrant exploration of colour, chaos and liberation, with nude figures calmly lying amongst flames, animals in motion and an engulfing noise. Justine is an incredibly active muralist with no wall too large for her colourful animals and figures. Beautiful work all round. Instagram: @justinemcallister
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193 - ELISE MARCIANTI
Elise Marcianti is an artist and host of the podcast Explore your core, but she is also full time adventurer. She is an endurance runner, slackliner, rock climber, cyclist, pretty much any physical activity spent in nature is how she lives her life. She recent had a short documentary film made about her called The Curious Path which can be found on YouTube and well worth a watch. The Curious Path Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMguwP4CG6E Instagram: @elisemarcianti @exploreyourcore_ Explore Your Core Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/6x9lZNea7CvHTG9YZmqB2H?si=36916de23ed645b0
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192 - JASON PARKER
Jason is a Melbourne based artist known best for his paintings and murals. In more recent years Jason’s art practice has expanded into fully immersive experiences with elaborate exhibitions encompassing sculpture, installation, performance, film and music. Jason has his most ambitious exhibition to date opening this week at the Meat Market in North Melbourne. The show is titled “Rise, Ruin, Renew, Repeat”, it is on for only one week from 21st - 28th November. It is a ticketed event and is one not to be missed. Jump on to jasonparkerart . com to secure a spot, tickets are only $12, don’t miss out. www.jasonparkerart.com Instagram: @jasonparkerart
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191 - KALYA SCINTILLA AND EVE DE VOKE
Kalya Scintilla and Eve de Voke aka Yaegon and Eve, are a world infused bass music and performative duo. Ranging between glitchy bass, trance, techno and ambient electronic music, with stunning theatrical live performances, Yaegon and Eve bring intention and depth into their shamanic journey music inspired by ancient technologies and wisdom. Without a doubt, an all time festival favourite. https://merkabamusic.com/ https://merkabamusic.com/eve-de-voke/ https://merkabamusic.com/kalyascintilla/ Instagram: @kalyascintilla.merkaba @evokationart
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190 - MALONEY
Maloney is the host of the "3000 Podcast", a Melbourne centric podcast with some of Melboure's culture makers. We chat about Maloney's journey into the podcasting world, hip hop and street culture and his love for Melbourne and its countless subcultures. @3000podcast https://www.youtube.com/@3000podcast
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189 - TAYLA BROEKMAN
Tayla Broekman is a Melbourne based visual artist who is best known for her beautifully drawn illustrative characters, mostly female figures and animals, done with styyyle. She is a highly accomplished muralist, painting all over the country and the globe and a digital artist. Instagram: @tayla.art
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188 - KENT WILSON
Kent Wilson is an artist, curator, writer, teacher and musician. He has worked all angles of the art world aiding, assisting and creating opportunities for artists. He has been instrumental in building and nurturing a thriving contemporary art scene in central Victoria, being one of the founders of the Kyneton Contemporary Art Triennial and being the Senior curator at La Trobe Arts Institute, Bendigo. Kent has also just recently released his first album under the name Fletching which is currently available on Spotify and Bandcamp. https://fletchingmusic.bandcamp.com/ Instagram: @_kentwilson_
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187 - BENJAMIN KNOCK
Benjamin Knock is an Australian multi-disciplinary artist who's work is predominantly focused around geological structures, the mechanics of our planet and passage of time. Since our last chat, Benji has been hanging out, for extended periods of time, on the edge of active, erupting volcanoes. I’ve been completely glued to his instagram stories as he’s been documenting bursts of exploding lava, deep earthly rumbles, huge black smoke clouds and barron alien landscapes. https://www.benjaminknock.com/ Instagram: @k_n_o_c_k @terra_therma
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186 - NINA RAO
Nina Rao is a Kirtan singer and performer with two incredible solo albums out now. She tours with Krishna Das singing and performing in his band as well as being his business manager. She is a podcast host on the Be Here Now Network, a spiritual teacher and has worked as a conservationist. https://www.ninaraochant.com/ https://ninarao.bandcamp.com/music
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185 - PHAELEH
Phaeleh aka Matt Preston, is an English electronic music producer, DJ and multi-instrumentalist known for his evocative melodic beats. His music ranges across many genres and tempos, sometimes upbeat and energised and often calm, ambient and cinematic. Combining live instruments with his supurb electronic production, Phaeleh's music has guided me through many a deep inner journey. https://phaeleh.bandcamp.com/
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184 - JOE DIMEO
Joe DiMeo is the recipient of the first successful face transplant and double hand transplant. Currently 25 years old, Joe lived a pretty normal life, until one morning in July, 2018, he was in a car accident and sustained third degree burns to 80% of his body. After two years of healing, challenging rehab, 20 reconstructive plastic surgeries and skin grafts, Joe underwent the 23 hour experimental transplant surgery in hope for a new trajectory toward function and normality. Four years later, Joe is living an active life, not without its challenges, but with optimism and independence. And today Joe joins me to share his difficult yet inspiring story. Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@joestransplantjourney Instagram: @joeroydimeo
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183 - MICHAEL VALE
Michael Vale is a Melbourne based contemporary artist best known for his eerie absurdist figurative paintings. Sublime landscapes occupied by a cast of strange cryptids: Masked ghostly entities, figures wrapped in bandages, skeletons smoking pipes all participating in an obscured ever unfolding narrative of humour, horror and mystery. With a professional art career spanning over four decades, Michael has held 22 solo exhibitions, has been a finalist in the Archibald Prize three times, and won a number of prestigious art prizes including the Doug Moran National Portrait Prize. Instagram: @michaelcharlesvale
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182 - CHAMBERLAIN
Chamberlain is a Melbourne based music producer who is best known for his punchy bass-heavy glitch-hop beats. He has played gigs and festivals all over Australia and world wide and has done countless releases of singles, reworks, EPs and albums. Get onto his soundcloud or spotify discography, guaranteed to put you in the mood to party and improve your vibe. https://chamberlaintunes.com/ Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/chamberlainyeah Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/artist/1EN0OGXAhh1z5k6Iq4E5H4?si=Wg1MNKhWTd2znoNPB3fRPQ Bandcamp: https://chamberlainyeah.bandcamp.com/ Instagram: @chamberlainyeah
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181 - DENNIS ASBERG: THE BALTIC SEA ANOMALY
In 2011, a team of Swedish ocean explorers searching for shipwrecks in the Baltic sea came across a very strange and unexplainable object. Their scanners picked up a large circular structure, seemingly non-natural, 60 meters in diameter and 90 meters deep with a long drag mark following it etched into the ocean floor. This discovery changed the course of their lives, sparking a relentless effort to examine and learn what this object might be, how it got there and how long its been there. The coverage of this discovery went world wide with the media dubbing it “The Baltic Sea Anonmaly” and even “The Baltic Sea UFO”. It is a really strange and exciting discovery which seems to puzzle all the scientific professionals who examine it. Is it a natural phenomena caused by volcanic activity? Or a meteor? Could it be man made? The foundations of some kind of building? Or could it actually be as strange as UFO crash site? One thing they do know is the more learn, the more questions that arise. The team who discovered it is called OceanX, lead by Peter Lindberg and Dennis Asberg. Today I am joining by Dennis, one of the original discoverers of this bizarre mysterious object lying at the bottom of the Baltic Sea. Ocean X https://www.oceanexplorer.se/ Dennis World Podcats https://open.spotify.com/show/2Hl3eOJF4nTd4EW1uRdXiA?si=8cf03c7f85054dc9 The Mystery Beneath Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImV8f0pOoXQ
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180 - TIM MOLLOY
Tim Molloy is a visual artist, illustrator and author of a number of comics/ graphic novels. Tim is also a world builder. Across the many mediums he works with spanning over a few decades, Tim has built an imaginary world in which all his characters and creatures inhabit. Strung together with an ever unfolding narrative, Tim’s universe is a frantic, psychedelic, multi-dimensional, alien sci fi melting pot. Bright colours, bizarre creatures, dark unsettling themes and magical adventures all delivered with aesthetical maximism. www.timmolloy.com https://www.patreon.com/timmolloy Instagram: @timmolloyart
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179 - JAKE ANGELI-CHANSLEY (Q-SHAMAN PT 2)
As promised, the follow up interview with Jake Angeli-Chansley. Also know by his shamanic name YellowStone Wolf, but known the world over by his nickname Q-Shaman. Jake came into the public eye after being the poster boy for the January 6 riots and the United States Capitol. This is a follow up conversation from episode 174.
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178 - "TARGETED INDIVIDUAL"
Having explored the subject of conspiracy theories extensively over the years, it hasn’t been uncommon to come across people claiming to be “Targeted Individuals”. Targeted Individuals are a group of people who believe they are being monitored, manipulated and targeted by powerful people or groups for the purpose of control, experimentation and psychological torture. There are said to be thousands worldwide and they claim to be targeted with a wide variety of methods such as radiowaves, microwaves, microchip implants, gangstalking and advanced surveillance.
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177 - BRENT LEE & NEIL SANDERS
Brent Lee and Neil Sanders are the hosts of the "Some Dare Call It Conspiracy" Podcast. A podcast that explores, investigates and debunks various conspiracy theories. We chat about the podcast, conspiracy theories that might actually be true, and explore the subject of Aliens, UFOs and the crop circle phenomenon. Twitter: @somedarepodcast
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176 - HARI HARI
Hari Hari is an Adelaide based visual artist and muralist. Hari’s work is often site specific, black and white, trippy optical shapes and forms with a warped movement that keeps the viewers eyes very busy. We sat down on the tail end of the Darwin Street Art Festival for a chat about Hari's work. Instagram: @hari_hari0
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175 - DARREN WARDLE
Darren Wardle is a Melbourne based visual artist. He is best known for his bright, techni-colour paintings of modern architectural interiors and exteriors. His subjects are often dilapidated and abstracted, a critical examination of modernity and walking the fine line between Utopia and Dystopia. www.darrenwardle.com Instagram: @darren.wardle
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174 - Q SHAMAN: JAKE ANGELI-CHANSLEY
Jake Angeli-Chansley became known the world over after becoming the poster boy for the January 6 riots at the Capitol in Washington DC, 2021. Dressed in his iconic outfit of red, white and blue face paint, bison horns and fur head-dress, Jake entered the Capitol building along with a large number or protesters and rioters, and paraded around the Senate floor while chanting, praying, and standing in front of Vice President Mike Pence’s chair. He was sentenced to 41 months in prison and was released early after 27 months for good behaviour. Jake practices Shamanism, his Shamanic name being YellowStone Wolf, and has long been participating in public demonstrations associated with the QAnon movement. We explore some of Jakes views and beliefs surrounding spirituality, politics, Jan 6 and what made the man that we all come to know as "The Q Shaman". https://www.forbiddentruthacademy.com/ Twitter/X: @AmericaShaman
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173 - JASMINE MANSBRIDGE
Jasmine Mansbridge is a Victoria based contemporary visual artist. Her geometric paintings and sculptures are described as the intersection between poetry and geometry. A geometric visual language to express deeper concepts and experiences. Her practice spans across painting, large outdoor sculptures, public murals and film. Her current exhibition titled “Poetry buried in Geometry” is on at Michael Reid Northern Beaches, 1-24th May. https://michaelreidnorthernbeaches.com.au/exhibition/jasmine-mansbridge-poetry-buried-in-geometry-2/ https://www.jasminemansbridge.com/ Instagram: @jasmine_mansbridge
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172 - MEGAN HALES
Megan Hales is a Sydney based contemporary artist. Megan’s art practice has varied from public sculpture, wearable art and performance art, public murals and oil painting. Her recent paintings are hyper realist, highly technical depictions of everyday, overlooked items and scenes of nature encroaching on the urban environment. Bright, often chaotic and absurd and incredibly painted. Instagram: @_megan_hales
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171 - ANDY ROSS
Andy Ross is a Melbourne based digital artist, a hunter and a unique thinker with a million stories. Instagram: @livingspiritdesign
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170 - CARATOES
Caratoes is a Belgium born multidisciplinary artist who has lived nomadically for over a decade now, constantly traveling wherever her creativity takes her. She paints large scale murals, elaborate installations, wearable art and costumes and is currently building a large outdoor metal sculpture. Instagram: @caratoes
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169 - MARY TONKIN
Mary Tonkin is a contemporary Australian landscape painter based in the Dandenong Ranges, Victoria. Her large textured oil paintings exquisitely capture the immense beauty of this lush forest landscape surrounding her studio. Her current exhibition "Both Sides Now" is currently showing at Australian Galleries, Collingwood. Instagram: @mary.tonkin https://australiangalleries.com.au/exhibitions/mary-tonkin-sr24-both-sides-now/
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168 - ISABELLA SEGALOVICH
Isabella Segalovich is a writer, producer and social media content creator for the online art publication "Hyperallergic". She is also working on her upcoming book about ornament in architecture. Instagram: @interstellar_isabellar @hyperallergic
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167 - EAMON WADDINGTON
Eamon Waddington is a hunter and photographer who spends much of his life outdoors. Over the years Eamon has had a number of pretty extraordinary UFO sightings, often viewed with other witnesses. We discuss these sightings and the UFO phenomenon more broadly. Instagram: @eamon.waddington
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166 - BX
BX is a private investigator as well as streamer and content creator who frequently shines the light on some of the more disturbing and dark corners of the internet. She has investigated and exposed numerous online predators, cultists and online manipulators. Twitter: @bx_on_x
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165 - JON BEINART
Jon Beinart is the owner and director of Beinart Gallery in Melbourne. With a huge international following Beinart Gallery has built its reputation for exhibiting highly skilled figurative artists with a shared fascination for surreal and imaginative themes. Jon is also an artist in his own right, producing surreal technically advanced paintings as well as his toddler-pillar sculptures which he is best known for. https://beinart.org/ Instagram: @beinartgallery @jonbeinart
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164 - MICAH OFSTEDAHL
Micah Ofstedahl is a contemporary artist best known for his masterful paintings. His work can be described as altered realism: celebrating the natural world while exploring some of life’s great mysteries. Incredibly rendered natural landscapes with translucent forms, patterns and networks moving through and interlacing with the physical realms we perceive. The forms appear to present themselves as bending light, possible apparitions, alternative dimensions or even scientific illustrations of energies, waves or sounds. https://www.micahofstedahl.com/ Instagram: @micahofstedahl
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163 - M.K. KOMINS
M.K. Komins is a Philadelphia based artist whos practice spans across painting, sculpture, illustration, digital and character design. Their paintings are bright, playful, dream-like depictions of portraits, characters and creatures. Glamorous and alluring, surreal and strange. Exhibited widely across the States and abroad as well as being highlighted by such publications as hi-fructose, juxtapose, Beautiful Bizarre magazine just to name a few. mkkomins.com Instagram: @m.k.komins
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162 - DESMOND SWEENEY
Desmond Sweeney is a Freemantle based artist who's beautiful desaturated seascapes evoke both an idyllic picturesque utopia and a faded lonely nostalgia. He is also an acomplished muralist going under the name 8FootWalls, transforming interiors of some of melbournes major venues and collaborations with highly regarded architects and design firms. https://desmondsweeney.com.au/ https://www.8footwalls.com/ Instagram: @8footwalls
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161 - JUAN FORD
Juan Ford is a Melbourne based multidisciplinary artist best known for his hyper realist oil paintings. His beautiful paintings are an amalgamation of figurative, botanical and landscape, creating mythological characters and subject matters reflecting on man's relationship and impact on nature. https://juanford.com/ Instagram: @juan_ford_art
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160 - PRICASSO
Pricasso is a performance artist and painter who is best known for painting live portraits with his penis. He is incredibly prolific and a speedy painter, delivering an accurate likeness of his subjects while performing in front of large audiences. He performs all over the world and Sexpo conventions, caberet shows and has a long waiting list for private commissions. www.pricasso.com
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159 - KAREN ALEXANDER
Karen Alexander is a crop circle researcher and the founder of Temporary Temples. TemporaryTemples.co.uk is a website run by Karen and her partner Steve where they provide information, run online conferences and archive photos of the crop circle phenomenon every year, which they have been doing since 1994. www.temporarytemples.co.uk Instagram: @temporarytemples
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158 - SHANE RYAN
Shane Ryan is a Teacher, Writer and Lead Researcher of the Westall UFO incident which took place in April 1966. He is the central figure in the documentary "Westall '66: A Suburban UFO Mystery" that can be watched on YouTube. "Westall '66" Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjbTJIrMfsg&t=4s
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
A podcast where I talk to creatives and creative thinkers who have passed the point of no return with their ideas and endeavours. Theme song by Kodiak Kid.
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Jack Rowland
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