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Inclusion Catalyst

by Mickey Desai

Welcome to Inclusion Catalyst, with your host Mickey Desai. We bring diversity leaders to the table to hear about current issues in diversity and inclusion, deconstructing complex social justice issues to showcase the best practices in our workplaces and our communities.

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Episodes

  1. Self-Advocacy Is a Skill

    In this second conversation with Shailvi Wakhlu, The Inclusion Catalyst explores a critical but often overlooked dimension of workplace inclusion: what happens after people are invited to the table? Shailvi argues that inclusion cannot stop at representation or opportunity. Organizations have a...

  2. When Good Work Isn’t Enough

    What happens when you do excellent work, but nobody notices? In this episode of The Inclusion Catalyst, host Mickey Desai talks with technology leader, consultant, and self-advocacy author Shailvi Wakhlu about the often-overlooked forces that shape who gets recognized, promoted, heard, and…

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  3. You Are the Tool, with Rebecca Eldgredge

    What’s really at stake when you ignore your nervous system? In this follow-up episode of Inclusion Catalyst, host Mickey Desai continues his conversation with Dr. Rebecca Eldredge, diving deeper into the real-world consequences of dysregulation—on our relationships, our communication, and our...

  4. The Cost of Caring, with Rebecca Eldridge

    What happens when the people working hardest to make the world better begin to lose themselves in the process? In this episode of Inclusion Catalyst, host Mickey Desai sits down with licensed psychologist Dr. Rebecca Eldredge—founder of @Feel Deeply, Live Completely—to explore the hidden toll of...

  5. Getting in Line: Rethinking DEI, Meritocracy, and Misconceptions

    Host Mickey Desai sits down with Su Joun, principal of Diversity at Workplace Consulting Group, to unpack the realities and misconceptions surrounding diversity, equity, and inclusion. Su reframes DEI not as a system of preferential treatment, but as a deliberate effort to remove barriers that...

  6. The Literacy Crisis We Can’t Ignore

    This episode is produced in partnership with the Georgia Interfaith Public Policy Center. Host Mickey Desai sits down with children’s author and entrepreneur Tiffany Obeng, founder of Sugar Cookie Books, to explore a powerful and often overlooked truth: inclusion in the workforce doesn’t begin in...

  7. “Secrets of the Killing State” with Corinna Lain

    In this powerful episode, Inclusion Catalyst sits down with Professor Corinna Lain, legal scholar and author of the forthcoming book Secrets of the Killing State, to examine the realities behind lethal injection in the United States. Lain’s work exposes a system shrouded in secrecy, built on...

  8. Charles Gibson: Building Belonging on College Campuses

    Charles Gibson is the Chief Engagement and Belonging Officer at Randolph College. He visits the Inclusion Catalyst to talk about fostering a culture of belongingness and home for Randolph Students. Key Takeaways Engagement and belonging work aims to make everyone feel at home on campus, focusing…

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  9. Nadia Mian: Catalyzing Faith-Based Affordable Housing

    Nadia Mian is the Senior Program Director at the Ralph W. Voorhees Center for Civic Engagement at Rutgers University. She visits the Inclusion Catalyst to discuss a very innovative faith-based housing initiative. Key Takeaways Dr. Mian is leading research on faith-based affordable housing,...

  10. Theresa Lau: Exposing the Harmful Cuts in the 'Big, Beautiful' Budget Bill

    Theresa Lau, Senior Policy Counsel, Eradicating Poverty at the Southern Poverty Law Center, visits with Mickey again to discuss the proposed federal budget cuts and their potential impacts on social programs and states. The budget bill passed by the House contains massive tax cuts for the wealthy...

  11. Federal Budget Cuts & Social Program Impact: Teresa Lau

    Theresa Lau is Senior Policy Counsel, Eradicating Poverty at the Southern Poverty Law Center. Theresa and Mickey discuss the proposed federal budget cuts and their potential impacts on social programs and states. Key Takeaways Proposed budget includes hundreds of billions in cuts to critical…

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  12. SB-17 Is Changing The Nonprofit Landscape

    Dr. Johanna Moya Fábregas visits the SnapCast. Dr. Fábregas is the Executive Director of Con Mi MADRE, a nonprofit dedicated to empowering Latina girls and their loved ones through education and emotional support. We talk about Texas State Bill-Seventeen, which is known informally as “the…

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  13. Inclusing In Gaming, with Karla Copp

    Carla Kopp is a game Designer, Developer, and Publisher. Her company is Weird Giraffe Games. Mickey talks with Carla to scratch the surface of diversity and inclusion in the gaming and game development world. Carla believes the content of games can change the world. We discuss how to make the…

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  14. Board Recruiting Through A DEI Lens

    [This episode was originally published as part of the Nonprofit SnapCast.] Christal M. Cherry is a nationally recognized nonprofit board consultant and certified leadership coach. She is the Principal and CEO of The Board Pro. We talk about Board Recruiting with an eye on Diversity and Equity....

  15. Disability Empathy and Access featuring Lori Frisher

    Today on the show, guest host Josh Miller of Josh Miller Ventures and IDEAS xLab talks to Lori Frisher as part of his Uncovering Your Value series. Frisher is a leader, an advocate, an entrepreneur, an athlete, a two-time cancer survivor, and a public speaker who dares to dream beyond her present...

  16. Standing in our “No” featuring Marija Abney

    Today on the show, guest host Josh Miller of Josh Miller Ventures and IDEAS xLab talks to Marija Abney as part of his Uncovering Your Value series. Abney is a community organizer, the arts curator at The Soapbox Presents, a Broadway performer and actress having starred in movies including both...

  17. Covering at Work and Uncovering Your Value

    Today on the show, queer changemaker and public speaker Josh Miller kicks off a multi-part series on the topic of covering: downplaying, hiding or filtering parts of ourselves at work, with different social groups, at school and with family. Miller believes that being visible can shift culture…

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  18. Welcoming Back Our Neighbors

    Today on the show, Julien speaks with Richard Mireles, the Director of Communications at the Oakland-based non-profit CROP Organization. CROP stands for Creating Restorative Opportunities and Programs and their mission is to reimagine reentry (for justice-involved folks) through a holistic,...

  19. Veterans & Higher Ed (Pt. 2): Perspectives on Navigating the Transition to College as a Student Veteran

    Join LeNaya Hezel, director of diversity, equity, and inclusion at Warrior-Scholar Project (WSP) as she chats with three alumni of the WSP program, Army veteran Chris Twigg, Navy veteran Desaree Edwards, and Marine Corps veteran Jessica Nelson. In this episode, they’ll discuss life after military...

  20. Veterans & Higher Ed (Pt. 1): Why Supporting Military Students Requires an Inclusive Strategy

    Join LeNaya Hezel, director of diversity, equity, and inclusion at Warrior-Scholar Project (WSP) as she chats with WSP’s director of education, Dr. Cassie Sanchez, about how the WSP program supports transitioning service members in their pursuit of higher education by meeting the nontraditional...

  21. A Skills-First Mindset: Connecting Black Talent to Family-Sustaining Jobs

    Today on the show, Julien speaks with Maurice Jones, the CEO of the non-profit OneTen. OneTen is a coalition of leading chief executives and their companies who are coming together to upskill, hire, and promote one million Black Americans over the next 10 years who do not yet have a four-year...

  22. Thriving in Transition

    Today on the show, Julien speaks with Alana Beard. A philanthropist and entrepreneur, Alana utilizes the power of business and sports to shift how women and girls experience opportunities. She is the Founder of Transition Play, a talent firm that specializes in helping women athletes live…

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  23. Addressing Youth Mental Health: A Grassroots Approach

    Today on the show, Julien speaks with Ashanti Branch. Ashanti is a key-note speaker, advisor to the US Surgeon General, a Fulbright Fellow and 4x TedX Speaker. His work with youth has been featured at SXSW, on CNN with Lisa Ling, on the Kelly Clarkson Show, and in the documentary about American...

  24. Sunset Racism: A White Anti-Racist’s Take

    Today on the show, Julien speaks with Jamey Harvey. Jamey is a technologist and white guy from Washington DC who in 1999, with a collective of multi-racial friends, founded the 2020 Project. Their goal and commitment to one another was to be accountable to each other for pursuing the end of…

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  25. Financial Equity & Inclusion with Sid Pailla

    Today on the Inclusion Catalyst, Julien is joined by Sid Pailla, Founder and CEO of Sunny Day Fund, a fintech and financial inclusion company that wants to achieve financial security with dignity for 142 million American workers. They are revolutionizing the way that Americans save for…

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  26. Anti-Racist Leadership

    Today on the show, Julien is joined by James and Krista White, the father and daughter team behind the book Anti-Racist Leadership: How to Transform Corporate Culture in a Race-Conscious World (Harvard Review Press). Their book is based on the indisputable premise that every leader must be...

  27. Cultural Humility and Third-Culture Kids

    Julien and Ruchika Tulshyan discuss their shared experience of being third-culture kids and how that relates to the importance of cultural humility in the workplace. Adults and children who qualify as third-culture have a unique and sometimes incomplete experience of cultural identity formation....

  28. The Evolution Of DEI In America and The Workplace

    Today on the show, Julien and Bill Hawthorne discuss the evolution of diversity, equity, and inclusion in America and in the workplace. In recent years, the rise of the #MeToo, #BlackLivesMatter, #StopAAPIHate movements have forced Americans to reflect on the persistent social injustices in our...

  29. Avoiding Religious Bias In The Workplace

    Today on the show, Julien and Rahimeh Ramezany discuss and deconstruct the bias and lack of inclusivity that Muslim Americans experience. Together, they’ll explore and give context to the issues that marginalized religious groups face, identify ways to ensure more equitable access for Muslim...

  30. Discussing Resilience and Strength with Lily Zheng

    Today on the show, we discuss and celebrate the beauty and resilience of the LGBTQIA+ community. In the wake of recent decisions made by the Supreme Court, I sit down with a prolific author, change-maker, and advocate of the queer community to discuss issues that affect the trans community. We’re...

  31. Deflection and Male Allyship

    Today on the show, we’re discussing male allyship and exploring some of the common deflections we hear from men that keep them from getting into the game. We’re excited to welcome back to the show, Dave Smith, co-author of the book, Good Guys: How Men Can Be Better Allies for Women in the…

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  32. DEI Global Fundamentals

    We are excited to have Greg Gale, the creator of the DEI Global Fundamentals and Leading at Liberty Mutual, which ran for 5,000 US managers and 2,000 managers globally. For over 25 years, Gale has held DEI leadership positions in Fortune 100 companies and non-profit organizations and implemented...

  33. How to Become and Advocate for Inclusion, Equity and Diversity

    Welcome to our discussion on being an advocate for Inclusion, Equity and Diversity. I am James Connor, Fractional CTO and Co-Founder of FlexibleSites. Join us as we talk with Lauren Tucker, Founder of Do What Matters and Garry Johnson, Founder of Bison Venture Partners. Be prepared to dive into…

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  34. Navigating the Diversity, Equity & Inclusion Work of BGCMA, with David Jernigan

    Shared from the Nonprofit SnapCast archives: David Jernigan is the President and CEO of the Boys & Girls Clubs of Metro Atlanta (BGCMA). For many companies and organizations, the past year has provoked critical conversations around diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) and inspired many to...

  35. Disruptor In Residence, with Robert Baker

    Today on the show, we’re excited to have Robert Baker, the CEO of Potentia Talent Consulting Limited. There, Rob advises several companies on their approach to the D&I market. Rob has over 4 decades of disrupting the work culture for the betterment of historically disadvantaged employees. Prior…

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  36. Deconstructing DEI for Companies

    On today’s first episode of a four-part miniseries, Chuck Shelton of Greatheart Consulting speaks with Mita Mallick, a corporate change-maker and the current head of inclusion, equity, and impact at Carta. Mita is a top LinkedIn voice of 2020 and the proud co-host of the Brown Table Talk Podcast...

  37. I Don't Need A Title To Go To Work

    Mickey visits with former Atlanta Mayoral Candidate Kirsten Elise Dunn to talk briefly about the mayoral race, and freedom from candidacy. Kirsten will continue to work to heal the city. Find more about her upcoming FREE seminar for all business owners: Recession-Proof Your Business:...

  38. Intentional Disinvestment Requires Intentional Investment, with L. Brian Jenkins

    This episode originally aired as a Nonprofit SnapCast episode in August of 2021. Brian Jenkins has impacted thousands of youth and adults through his nonprofit, Entrenuity. Founded in 1999, Entrenuity began with direct youth services in entrepreneurship education and then expanded to include…

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  39. Jacquie Abram Shares her Personal Story Dealing with Systemic Racism in the Workplace

    Jacquie Abram had a career in higher education that she was very good at & that she enjoyed. A career that paid her an income, which as a single mother of two girls was the only income, that allowed her to not only provide for her family, but also pay her bills. A career that spanned nearly two...

  40. Are You Our Next Guest Host?

    Are you our next guest host? Thank you for your interest in the Inclusion Catalyst podcast. With your help we will continue to publish high-quality podcasts for people interested in Diversity, Equity, and Social Justice topics. But we want to be clear: Inclusion Catalyst is not looking for…

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  41. Diversity and Inclusion is a Journey with Simone Morris

    Diversity and inclusion expert, Simone Morris, shares: How to bring our allies on the diversity journey with us The mindset of inclusive leaders What inclusive organizations are doing to prioritize investing in diversity and inclusion How to celebrate black history beyond Black History Month...

  42. Building a Coalition with a Princess

    In this episode, Mika’il Petin, Ph.D., Chief of Diversity, Equity & Inclusion for All Hands and Hearts, has a conversation with Princess Bazley-Bethea, Director of the Together Project & Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion with InterAction, about her role in leading an effort to create consistent...

  43. Radical Allyship

    After the racial justice reckoning we have experienced particularly in the last year at a national level, the new buzz word is ‘allyship’ or being an ‘ally.’ In this episode, we discuss what it really means and how to be radical in rethinking allyship. We explore going beyond performative…

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  44. Unpacking Racism with Ericka Young

    Antiracism is a word being thrown around Corporate America all too often nowadays. In the wake of George Floyd and sustained racial equity conversations in 2020, my frequent collaboration partner, and advocate for racial equity, Ericka Young, and I discuss: Where we are at now personally and with...

  45. How to be a J.E.D.I. Leader

    This episode is an address from former GM (GSK, Allergan) and Leadership Author Omar L. Harris, who shares his inspiring Graduation Keynote: “From Servant Leadership to J.E.D.I. Leadership” (social justice, equity, diversity and inclusion) in May 2021 at the Leadership Harrisburg Area (LHA)...

  46. Talent Justice

    How is it that the social sector, which prides itself on its mission to ensure that all communities have access to health, safety, and prosperity, can underpay, overwork, and endanger the very people who carry out the work? We all have either experienced or heard stories of beloved colleagues who...

  47. Live In Their World, with Robin Rosenberg

    Robin Rosenberg, PhD, is a psychologist, CEO and Founder of Live In Their Word. They use Virtual Reality to address issues of bias an incivility in the workplace. Robin's professional curiosity and clinical practice drew her towards the burgeoning field of virtual reality (VR) about 25 years ago....

  48. Black Mayors & Leadership in the United States, Diversity & Inclusion

    The Honorable Sylvester Turner, Mayor of Houston, discusses diversity and inclusion. The event is moderated by Politico National Correspondent Natasha Korecki and includes a panel discussion with Gail Christopher, Executive Director of the National Collaborative for Health Equity; Pedro Noguera,...

  49. How to be One of the Good Guys with David Smith and Brad Johnson

    Highly acclaimed male ally experts, HBR contributors, and published authors of the newly released book "The Good Guys," Brad Johnson and David Smith join the show to discuss: The why for men, especially white men, in the gender and diversity conversation Tangible ways to be a "good guy" and stand...

  50. How to be an Inclusive Leader with Jennifer Brown

    Jennifer Brown joins us to discuss her new book, "How to be an Inclusive Leader" and why white supremacy culture is still holding Corporate America back from achieving true diversity and inclusion. We cover: The ally continuum and the ally journey The risk of losing people along the journey in...

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Welcome to Inclusion Catalyst, with your host Mickey Desai. We bring diversity leaders to the table to hear about current issues in diversity and inclusion, deconstructing complex social justice issues to showcase the best practices in our workplaces and our communities.

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