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insideABODE
by Windermere Abode
insideABODE is a podcast that gives you an unfiltered, honest, inside look at the Real Estate industry like you've never heard before. Windermere Abode is a boutique real estate brokerage located in Old Town Tacoma. We are changing—and elevating—real estate in this community. Windermere Abode intentionally maintains a small team of amazing agents, to focus time and energy focused on creating the best experience possible for buyers and sellers.
Episodes
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Top 5 Reasons to Live in East Tacoma | Melo Hogan
What are the top five things you need to know about living in East Tacoma? Abode broker Melo Hogan lives there, and she answers like a neighbor, not a brochure. She starts with the people — the kind of neighbors who'll strike up a conversation with someone they just met. Then the small businesses...
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Pregnancy, Work, and Real Estate | Jessica Knicely
In this episode of insideABODE, host Dave Jones revisits a conversation from the archive. 🔁 A Throwback Thursday re-release. Originally recorded August 2019. Jessica Knicely talks candidly about being pregnant while running a real estate business — and the systems she and Ryan put in place to…
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How She Bought Her First Home With Zero Down (VA Loan, Pierce County) | Sorelle Okoli + Brianna Minor
Every real estate podcast gets you one side of the story. This one gets you both. Sorelle Okoli represented the buyer. Brianna Minor was the buyer. They sat down together and walked the whole thing back — start to close, hiccup by hiccup. Brianna came up from Southern California when her partner...
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Highest Chance to Sell in Pierce County Belongs To... | Sept 2026 Market Update
Pierce County is a buyer's market on paper. Zoom in and it's a very different story depending on where you live. Dave pulls up the numbers and walks through them fast. Overall, a home in Pierce County has a 34% chance of selling right now, with 2,469 active listings against 843 pendings, a $559K...
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Becoming an Airbnb Superhost in Tacoma | Jessica Knicely
In this episode of insideABODE, host Dave Jones revisits a conversation from the archive. 🔁 A Throwback Thursday re-release. Originally recorded August 2019. Abode broker Jessica Knicely walks through how she got into short-term rentals and what it took to become an Airbnb Superhost. She covers...
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House Hacking: How to Live for Free | Ian Broadie
In this episode of insideABODE, host Dave Jones revisits a conversation from the archive. 🔁 A Throwback Thursday re-release. Originally recorded May 2019. Ian Broadie breaks down the mindset behind "living for free" — buying a multi-family property, living in one unit, and letting the other...
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The Seller Wouldn't Take a VA Loan. Here's How She Bought It Anyway | Jana Ross
Star Wuerdemann's offer was rejected the same day it went in. The listing didn't even have VA financing marked as an acceptable option. Fifty-four days of inspection contingency later, she owned the house. This is the whole thing, told by the agent and the buyer sitting together. Star and her...
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From Brooklyn to Tacoma: A First-Time Buyer's Real Story | Levon Williams
In this episode of insideABODE, host Dave Jones revisits a conversation from the archive. 🔁 A Throwback Thursday re-release. Originally recorded May 2020. Levon Williams grew up in Crown Heights, Brooklyn. He's a first-generation college graduate and a first-generation homeowner — and he bought...
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What Buyers & Sellers Are ACTUALLY Asking | Holly Tacker
What are buyers and sellers actually asking when no agent is in the room? Host Dave Jones scraped Reddit's real estate forums from the last 30 days and brought the real questions to Holly Tacker — a Windermere Abode agent with 12 years in the business — for straight answers. The lineup: Can we...
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Selling a House in Pierce County: What's Working in August 2026
Shelley Heck has spent a decade listing homes in Pierce County, and she'll tell you straight — the biggest mistake sellers are making right now is pricing like it's 2021.Dave sits down with Shelley to get into what actually changed. Why a sign in the front yard isn't a strategy anymore. Why…
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How Hackers Target Home Buyers | Wire Fraud, Title & Insurance Explained
One wrong click can cost a homebuyer their entire down payment. On this episode of Inside Abode, host Anne Jones sits down with two people who see real estate cybercrime up close: Troy St. George, Executive Vice President at CW Title, and Alex Busilacchi, Sales Director at Moreland Insurance...
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Tacoma Hit a Balanced Market... Here's What That Means | Market Update
In this episode of Inside Abode, host Dave Jones breaks down what's actually happening in the Pierce County real estate market right now — and the shift is worth paying attention to.Dave also celebrates Tacoma Pride and previews an upcoming episode on cybersecurity for homeowners — why digital...
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Is Tacoma a Queer-Friendly City? A Native's Honest Take | Katie Jones
Is Tacoma really a queer-friendly city?This episode, Dave Jones sits down with Katie Jones — Tacoma native, Abode real estate agent, and proud member of the LGBTQ+ community — for an honest conversation about what it actually feels like to grow up, raise a family, and feel safe in Tacoma.Katie…
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The Pierce County Market Right Now: Inventory, Prices & Where Rates Are Headed | Dave Jones
In this episode of Inside Abode, host Dave Jones breaks down the Pierce County market right now — inventory, pricing, and where interest rates are headed. It's a quick read on the signals that matter and what they mean for your next move: if you're buying, what to watch before you jump in; if...
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Pierce County Spring Real Estate Market is HERE... or is it? | Jeff Tucker, Windermere Principal Economist
Is spring actually showing up in the Pierce County real estate market — or is this the quietest "selling season" we've seen in years? In this episode of Inside Abode, host Dave Jones sits down with Jeff Tucker, Windermere Real Estate's Principal Economist, to break down what the latest Northwest...
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Moving to Tacoma? Check This Website Out First | Marguerite Martin
Host Dave Jones sits down with Marguerite Martin — founder of MoveToTacoma.com, fair housing champion, and now part of the Windermere Abode family. Marguerite launched MoveToTacoma.com in 2015 when "niching down to one city" felt crazy. Eleven years later, it's one of the most trusted local real...
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How Tacoma Was Segregated By Design (And What It Means Today) | Dave Jones
Most people don't realize that the neighborhood you live in today was likely shaped by decisions made 100 years ago — and not by accident. In this episode of Inside Abode, Dave digs into the history of fair housing right here in Tacoma, as he peruses the website 'tacomafairhousing.com,' which you...
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The Covenant Home Loan: Creating Opportunity and Affordability | Titus Davis + Jordan Dam
Here’s a tight, YouTube-optimized version: Most buyers don’t realize there’s a powerful program in Washington helping BIPOC families buy homes with little to no traditional down payment. In this episode, Titus Davis breaks down the Covenant Home Loan Program—offering up to 20% down payment...
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How the Windermere Ready Program Helps You Get Top Dollar | Heidi Hurst
What does it take to be Windermere Ready? Heidi Hurst joins us to unpack the Windermere Ready program — what it covers,why it matters for agents,and how it's raising the bar in real estate.If you'e curious about what Windermere is doing to prepare agents at the highest level,this one' for you.
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Is Spring Here in Pierce County? | insideABODE Podcast
If you're wondering what's happening in the real estate market in Pierce County, you're not alone. Many are concerned about how the current economic climate, including rising mortgage rates and other factors, will impact home sales. But is the Spring Market already here in Pierce County? Dave…
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What Catching a 626 Pound Fish Taught Me About Real Estate | Jenny Wetzel
Yes, you read correct... a 626 pound fish! Jenny Wetzel joins the show today to share not only her once in a lifetime experience, but her reflections on how the experience relates to real estate. Jenny also gives us an update on what she's seeing in the North Tacoma real estate market. Follow…
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How To Get Your Offer Accepted in the Pierce County Housing Market | Spencer Eiseman
How do you get your offer accepted without overpaying?In this episode, we break down real buyer strategies that are working in Tacoma, Puyallup, Lakewood, Gig Harbor, and across Pierce County. From writing stronger offers to understanding seller psychology, we explain how buyers can compete...
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Black History Month Reflection Throwback: "The Police Murdered My Brother" | The Impact on the Family with Pearl Nelson
This podcast is a throwback episode of the Black History Month Reflection series, where Dave sits down with local black and brown professionals in and around Tacoma. We're bringing conversations that we often have in private, out in the public. Be a fly on the wall as Dave chats with these great...
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Black History Month Reflection: What About Black Joy? | Jiquanda Nelson, CEO of Diversity Window
This podcast is part of a series of Black History Month Reflections with local black and brown professionals in and around Tacoma. We're bringing conversations that we often have in private, out in public. Be a fly on the wall as Dave chats with these great individuals as we wrap up Black History...
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Black History Month Reflection Series - The Intersection of Blackness and Real Estate | Harrison Beacher
In this episode, we get an impromptu visit from Harrison Beacher, one-third of the Coalition Properties real estate team based out of Washington D.C. Harrison and Dave reflect and pontificate on real estate, black pop culture, and general blackness... be a fly on the wall as they dive in!…
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Pierce County Real Estate Market Update: Where Are Things Headed?
Will the Pierce County housing market have is normal cyclical Spring this season? 👀Dave dives into Pierce County real estate market data and looks at where inventory could be headed, days on market, and buyer data... where are they looking to buy right now? ----------- 🏡 Don’t forget to like,...
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AbodeLife: "I Worked For President Obama" - Devin Hampton's Crazy Journey into Politics and Energy
*This throwback episode kicks off our Black History Month reflection series. We'll be sharing classic conversations and episodes that still ring true today.* Want to hear a crazy story? Spend the next half hour listening to Devin Hampton's story; from dropping out of the University of Washington,...
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Breaking Down Pierce County’s Luxury Market—Trends, Stats, and Signals | Heidi Hurst
This episode we spend time looking at the Pierce County Luxury market with Luxury Specialist Heidi Hurst from the Heidi Hurst Team. Heidi and Dave dive into some January numbers as of the time of recording and talk about the Windermere Premier Program, what it takes to make a home a 'Premier...
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The 10 Best Date Night Spots in Tacoma | Kiss'Swanna Curtis
Looking for somewhere to eat in Tacoma but you can't choose? Are you new and just don't know where to go? We got you! Abodie Kiss'Swanna Curtis joins the show to talk about her top ten favorite spots in Tacoma! What's your favorite? Let us know! --------------------------- 🏡 Don’t forget to…
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Martin Luther King on Housing... What Do the Numbers Say?
Did you know Martin Luther King was a strong advocate for fair housing, and his assassination was the precursor to the Fair Housing Act being passed in 1968? In this episode, Dave takes a look at a speech Dr. King made in Chicago, and then takes a look at housing data by race, provided by the...
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What Smart Sellers Are Doing Before Listing Their Home | Jenny Wetzel
In this episode of Inside Abode, Dave Jones sits down with Jenny Wetzel to break down what’s ahead for the 2026 real estate market. The conversation focuses on intentional strategy—how smart pricing, thoughtful improvements, and early planning can separate successful sellers from the rest. Follow...
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Windermere Economics 2026 Forecast | Jeff Tucker
📊 What’s next for the housing market? Will rates go down? How will inventory be impacted? Join us as we dive into Jeff Tucker’s insights on the future of real estate in 2026!
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Empowering and Supporting Diverse First Time Home Buyers | Gio Cervantes
Dave Jones sits down with lender Giovanni Cervantes for an honest conversation about the realities black and brown buyers are facing right now. They unpack the challenges first-time homebuyers are running into, the fears many Latino families carry around homeownership, and how down payment...
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Navigating a Market Shift as a Seller | Melo Hogan
Abode agent Melo Hogan joins the show to discuss the intricacies of selling a home during a market shift, and how she helps prepare her sellers to sell their home in today's constantly shifting real estate landscape. She breaks down the challenges faced by sellers, the emotional aspects of the...
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Transitioning from Veteran to Civilian | John Langston
In this episode, we chat with John Langston, a veteran who spent time in the Navy and transitioned to civilian life. We chat about the challenges he faced, and the support systems available. We also dive into the Seattle Seahawks, and talk sports, and how change and transition applies to both....
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What It Takes to Sell a Home Right Now | Heidi Hurst
In this episode, Heidi Hurst joins the show to discuss a seller success story. Heidi shares a specific success story involving a client who navigated foundation issues and ultimately secured a full-price offer. Follow Heidi Hurst online: Instagram Website
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Are Mortgage Rates Going to Go Down Further? | Ian Broadie
In this episode, Windermere Abode realtor Ian Broadie joins the podcast to discuss the current state of mortgage rates and their implications for buyers. Ian breaks down the complexities of how mortgage rates are determined, the impact of economic indicators, and the importance of refinancing.…
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Staying Focused as a Real Estate Agent in These Crazy Times | Ryan Knicely
Does doom scrolling on your phone feel like groundhogs day and you just can't get out of the loop? Dave Jones and Ryan Nicely discuss how he has taken a different approach to social media. Listen in as Ryan and Dave talk candidly about how they manage the current social media landscape....
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Guiding Sellers Through a Shifting Market | Shelley Heck
In the first episode of Season 13, Windermere Abode agent Shelley Heck joins to discus how she is helping her sellers navigate a market that continues to He is joined by Shelley Heck, who shares insights on managing seller expectations, the importance of communication, and strategies for…
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Housing Market Reality Check: Around the Sound in July
In this episode Dave looks active and pending data from different cities in Pierce County and reacts. Have a question? Ask away! Send all questions to [email protected] this episode on our Youtube channel! Looking for more content? Visit...
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Living in Sumner, Washington: What Locals Want You to Know | Kylee Hill
In this episode we welcome Kylie Hill, a long-time resident and real estate agent in Sumner, Washington. Kylee discusses the charm and community spirit of Sumner, the appeal of the nearby planned community of Tahaleh, and the evolving demographics and amenities in both areas. Kylee shares…
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Breaking Ground: Pride, Affordable Housing, + the Ongoing Fight for Inclusivity | Spencer Eiseman
In this episode of the Inside Abode Podcast, we sit down with Windermere Abode agent Spencer Eiseman to explore what it means to truly break ground—in real estate, in community, and in identity. We talk about the first-ever Habitat Pride Build, why LGBTQ+ representation in housing matters, and…
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Tacoma is a Top 50 Housing Market in the Nation? | Pierce County Market Update
Dave Jones discusses the current state of the real estate market, focusing on Tacoma's position as a top metro area. Windermere Economist Jeff Tucker is also featured on this episode talking about the markets, giving his take on things. Dave continues to analyzes inventory levels, mortgage rates,...
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What You Need To Know About the Pierce County Housing Market | Dave Jones
🏡 Homes sitting longer? Prices dropping? We’re breaking down the latest Tacoma market data to help sellers and agents make smart moves. Dave covers data points to consider. Have a question? Ask away!Watch this episode on our Youtube channel! Looking for more content? Visit...
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Healing Through Story: The Power of The Griot Party Experience | Logic Amen
What is freedom without healing? In this powerful episode, Dave Jones sits down with Logic Amen, creator of the Griot Party Unity Experience, to explore how storytelling, art, and technology shape the path toward liberation. This conversation is a call to recognize the value in marginalized…
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Selling Your Home in Pierce County? Here's What You Need to Know
🏡 Homes sitting longer? Prices dropping? We’re breaking down the latest Tacoma market data to help sellers and agents make smart moves. Dave covers data points to consider. Have a question? Ask away!Watch this episode on and subscribe to our Youtube channel! Visit...
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The TOP 5 Opportunities for Buyers in this Market | Jordan Cain
Jordan Cain joins the show to talk about opportunities for buyers in today's market. Being on the ground and working with buyers, he explores the challenges and opportunities for buyers he's seen so far in this Spring market; including the impact of inventory levels, seller concessions, and...
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Going Beyond Saying 'Thank You For Your Service' | Jana Ross
In this episode, Windermere Abode agent Jana Ross provides a different perspective on the phrase, 'Thank you for your service' as we near Memorial Day weekend. She educates us on its origins, implications, and the need for deeper engagement with military families. Jana shares her experiences and...
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The Housing Market is Changing... Again: Western Washington Market Update with Windermere Economist Jeff Tucker
After a hot March, Western Washington’s real estate market cooled in April. Why the shift? Windermere Chief Economist Jeff Tucker breaks down key reasons—rising interest rates, stock market volatility, and economic uncertainty. If you’re buying or selling a home in Western Washington, watch now…
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Downsizing from Your Current Home: When is it Right For You? | Erick Harpole
When is the time to downsize? Or as Erick Harpole calls it... 'right sizing?' In this episode of insideABODE, Erick Harpole talks about downsizing and the things one should consider when downsizing or buying another home that fits your post family lifestyle. Listen in! Follow Erick Harpole…
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
insideABODE is a podcast that gives you an unfiltered, honest, inside look at the Real Estate industry like you've never heard before. Windermere Abode is a boutique real estate brokerage located in Old Town Tacoma. We are changing—and elevating—real estate in this community. Windermere Abode intentionally maintains a small team of amazing agents, to focus time and energy focused on creating the best experience possible for buyers and sellers.
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