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Aryeh “Ari” Landsberg, Managing Director at 17Capital, joins the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast to explore how NAV finance has evolved from a specialized private markets solution into an increasingly mainstream portfolio management tool. He explains the fundamentals of NAV financing, including how lenders provide capital against diversified portfolios of mature private equity investments rather than relying on the performance of a single company.   The conversation examines the forces driving greater adoption of NAV finance, from changing liquidity conditions and longer private equity holding periods to the need for flexible capital that can support additional investment in existing portfolio companies. Ari also walks through 17Capital’s underwriting approach, including diversification, seniority, low loan-to-value ratios, fundamental company analysis, and ongoing monitoring of portfolio performance and risk.   Ari also discusses where he sees the NAV finance market heading as private credit continues to expand and sponsors hold investments for longer periods. He explains how NAV financing can support add-on acquisitions, talent investment, refinancing, and other strategies intended to maximize portfolio company value, while sharing his perspective on the importance of discipline, collaboration, intellectual curiosity, and adaptability as the market continues to mature.

Suzanne Gauron, Managing Director and Head of Capital Solutions for Growth Equity at General Atlantic, joins the InsuranceAUM Podcast to explore the role growth equity can play in institutional and insurance portfolios. She explains how growth equity differs from venture capital and traditional buyouts, focusing on profitable, rapidly growing companies with little or no leverage and returns driven primarily by business performance.   The conversation examines how growth equity may provide insurers with exposure to return drivers that differ from the interest rate, credit spread, and leveraged equity risks already common across general accounts. Gauron also discusses where institutions are funding growth equity allocations, including buyout, venture capital, and public equity portfolios, as well as the growing range of investment structures available through commingled funds, funds of one, secondaries, and co-investments.   Gauron also shares her perspective on the current private market environment, including prolonged illiquidity, pressure to generate distributions, valuation discounts, and how limited exit activity is creating new opportunities for growth equity investors. She closes the conversation with insights from her career, including the qualities she values in strong teammates and the importance of intellectual curiosity and an ownership mindset.

In this episode, Tim Warrick, CFA, Managing Director and Head of Alternative Credit at Principal Asset Management, discusses what insurance investors should know about private credit beyond the headlines. He shares Principal Asset Management’s perspective on the differences across lower, core, and upper middle market direct lending, including how leverage, covenants, liquidity, and borrower characteristics can shape risk and return.   The conversation also explores why portfolio construction begins before a loan is originated, how active monitoring and downside testing can support capital preservation, and where Tim sees persistent value across private credit. He also discusses diversification, the role of the illiquidity or “inefficiency” premium, and how the market may continue to evolve as more investors enter the asset class.

Avi Turetsky, Partner and Head of the Quantitative Research Group at Ares Management, and Bill Kieser, Principal and Co-Head of Research and Data Science at Ares Management, join the InsuranceAUM Podcast to explore how quantitative research is changing the way institutional investors evaluate private markets.   They discuss how investors can look beyond traditional measures like IRR and quartile rankings to better understand alpha, benchmarking, portfolio construction, and relative value across private equity, private credit, real estate, infrastructure, and secondaries. The conversation also examines what Ares’ research suggests about investing during periods of volatility and the potential benefits of taking a more contrarian approach to private market allocations.   The discussion also looks ahead to the growing role of AI and machine learning in investment research, including how Ares is using data to identify potential credit risks and where quantitative tools may complement, rather than replace, human investment judgment.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Gavin Baiera, Senior Managing Director and Head of Performing Credit at Centerbridge, and David Marks, Executive Vice President at Wells Fargo Commercial Banking, to explore the evolution of direct lending and why relationship-based lending may offer a differentiated source of relative value.   Gavin and David discuss how lending to founder and family owned businesses differs from traditional sponsor backed transactions, with a focus on leverage, covenant structures, borrower behavior, and long standing banking relationships. They also explore how pairing commercial banking relationships with private credit underwriting can open access to a broader range of non sponsored opportunities, support greater diversification, and help investors evaluate risks related to liquidity, AI exposure, and shifting credit conditions.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA sits down with Tom Milewski, Managing Director and Head of Portfolio Management at Deerpath Capital, to discuss why active portfolio management can be just as important as underwriting in private credit. Tom explains how managers can use monthly financials, borrower-specific KPIs, dashboards, and early warning triggers to identify developing risks, learn from portfolio trends, and make more informed investment decisions.   They also explore where outcomes begin to diverge between private credit managers, the difference between covenant-light, covenant-loose, and meaningful covenant structures, and why reacting early to signs of stress can help preserve value. Tom also shares what insurance investors should consider when evaluating a private credit manager’s approach to portfolio oversight, including how managers apply lessons learned and adjust their strategies over the life of an investment.

In this episode of the Insuranceaum.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Bixby Stewart, Head of US Investment Grade Credit Research for Invesco Fixed Income, to explore where credit investors are finding conviction amid tight spreads, strong institutional demand, and a historic wave of AI-related capital investment.   Bixby explains why today’s investment-grade market may deserve its historically tight valuations, highlighting stronger credit quality, attractive yields, improved liquidity, and persistent demand from insurers, pensions, and other institutional investors. He also discusses relative value across banks, technology, utilities, energy, and private credit, while examining the risks surrounding hyperscaler issuance, AI monetization, market concentration, and the need for disciplined security selection in a bond picker’s market.

In this episode of the Insuranceaum.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Sidd Chakravarty, Vice President of Investments at CoAction Global, to explore the private market priorities insurance investors should be watching as they prepare for 2027. Sidd discusses the growing role of asset-based finance, opportunities across non-agency mortgages and digital infrastructure, and the many ways insurers can gain exposure to the financing needs created by artificial intelligence.   The conversation also examines portfolio construction in a “normal for longer” interest-rate environment, spread compression, emerging risks within private credit and the importance of understanding exactly what sits beneath each investment. Sidd shares his perspective on manager selection, insurance-specific expertise, regulatory developments and the value of peer networks as allocators navigate an increasingly complex investment landscape.

In this episode of the insuranceaum.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Ross Sylvester of Napier Park Global Capital and Katie Cowan of First Eagle Investments about insurance investing in railcar leasing. They explain how the asset class works, why industrial companies lease railcars and how contractual cash flows, specialized maintenance and long-lived physical assets can create a resilient investment profile.   The discussion explores how railcar leasing may support stable income, inflation sensitivity, duration alignment and diversification within insurance portfolios. Ross and Katie also share their perspectives on North American supply chains, geopolitical exposure, asset-based finance and how insurers can evaluate railcar leasing alongside traditional credit and real asset allocations.

In this episode of the insuranceaum.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Trevor Clark, Founder and Managing Partner of TPG Twinbrook Capital Partners, about the structural changes reshaping private credit and the enduring role of lower middle market lending. Trevor explains why private credit should not be treated as a single, uniform asset class and discusses how manager experience, direct origination, disciplined underwriting, financial covenants and active portfolio monitoring can influence investment outcomes.   The conversation also explores how insurance capital, BDC structures, retail redemptions, longer private equity hold periods and artificial intelligence are changing the direct lending landscape. Trevor shares why strong companies can still become vulnerable when overlevered, how lenders can use better data and monitoring to identify risks earlier, and what insurance investors should consider when evaluating both private credit managers and the structures used to access the asset class.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Maarten Offeringa of Federated Hermes to explore trade finance and the investment opportunity it creates within the real economy. Maarten explains how short-duration loans finance the production, infrastructure, and movement of physical goods through global supply chains, and why changes in global trade and bank regulation have made the asset class increasingly accessible to institutional investors.   The conversation examines trade finance’s potential benefits for insurance portfolios, including floating-rate income, low duration, self-amortizing structures, diversification, and relatively low correlation with traditional fixed-income markets. Maarten also discusses Federated Hermes’ bank-partnership approach to sourcing and underwriting transactions, shares real-world examples involving aircraft and essential food supplies, and explains where trade finance may fit within an insurer’s broader public and private credit allocations.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Pramila Agrawal, PhD, CFA, senior insurance portfolio manager at Loomis Sayles, about how insurers can rethink core fixed income in a changing market environment.   They discuss the expanding role of private credit, structured products and emerging market debt, along with the importance of liquidity, scale and consistent underwriting across public and private markets. Pramila also shares how technology is becoming more integrated into portfolio construction, risk management and customized solutions for insurance investors.

In this episode of the insuranceaum.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Emily Wiener, Chief Investment Officer of the TIAA General Account, and Dan Close, Head of Municipals at Nuveen, to discuss the role taxable municipal bonds can play in resilient, liability-aware insurance portfolios. They examine why municipal bonds remain a vital source of infrastructure financing and how taxable munis can provide high-quality, long-duration exposure.   The conversation explores relative value beyond headline spreads, including credit quality, default and recovery experience, downside protection, supply dynamics, and the importance of specialized research. Emily and Dan also discuss how TIAA uses municipal bonds as portfolio ballast and why experienced market access matters in a diverse and highly specialized asset class.

Host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Nick Coxon, Managing Director and Head of Americas Real Assets, and Ben Taylor, Managing Director, Private Credit, at Macquarie Asset Management. In this episode of the insuranceaum.com podcast, they discuss why infrastructure is becoming an increasingly important allocation for insurers, including the differences between infrastructure debt and equity and the role of contractual revenues, inflation linkage, hard collateral, and long-duration cash flows in liability-aware portfolios.   The conversation also explores the widening infrastructure funding gap, rising demand tied to digitalization, decarbonization, demographics, and power usage, and the growing role of private capital as banks retreat from longer-dated lending. Nick and Ben also highlight opportunities in infrastructure-adjacent businesses and explain how the asset class may offer yield, diversification, downside protection, and exposure to essential real assets.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Josh Ufberg, Senior Managing Director at Blue Owl, to discuss the evolution of the credit secondaries market and why it is becoming an increasingly important part of the private credit landscape. As private credit continues to grow, Josh shares his perspective on how secondary transactions can provide liquidity solutions while creating opportunities for investors seeking attractive risk-adjusted returns.   Stewart and Josh explore how credit secondaries work, how value is created through discounted purchases, accrued cash flows, and transaction structuring, and why insurers may find the asset class particularly compelling. They also discuss diversification, capital efficiency, shorter-duration exposures, and the broader role credit secondaries could play in insurance portfolio construction as the market continues to mature.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Jim Higgins, Head of Commercial Real Estate at Shelter Growth Capital Partners, to discuss the opportunities and risks within commercial real estate bridge lending. Jim explains how bridge loans fit within the broader CRE debt market, why they can offer attractive risk-adjusted returns, and how Shelter Growth approaches underwriting, asset management, and borrower selection. He also shares insights from more than three decades in commercial real estate credit and discusses the firm's focus on middle-market bridge loans backed by multifamily and industrial properties.   Stewart and Jim also examine current commercial real estate fundamentals, including valuations, supply and demand dynamics, leverage levels, and capital availability. The conversation explores how CRE private credit compares with corporate private credit, the benefits of asset-backed lending for insurance portfolios, and why bridge loans may offer compelling relative value in today's market. Jim also discusses the advantages of combining residential and commercial lending platforms, the role of securitization and leverage in portfolio construction, and the characteristics he looks for when building successful investment teams.

Morris Chen, Portfolio Manager and Head of CMBS & CRE Debt Investments at DoubleLine Capital, and Robert Stanbrook, Portfolio Manager for the firm's CRE Loan Platform, join Stewart Foley to explore how commercial mortgage loans can help insurers navigate today's investment landscape. Together, they discuss the differences between CMLs and CMBS, the benefits of portfolio customization, and why these strategies continue to play an important role in balancing yield, duration, and capital efficiency.    The conversation also dives into DoubleLine's underwriting philosophy, the importance of borrower quality and loan structure, and how insurers across life, annuity, P&C, and health sectors can tailor commercial mortgage allocations to meet their unique balance sheet objectives. For insurance investors looking to better understand the asset class, this episode offers a practical framework for evaluating both the opportunities and the risks.

Bob Sharma, CFA, Global Head of Insurance Client Group at AllianceBernstein, joins host Stewart Foley, CFA, to discuss how insurers are navigating today's evolving private markets landscape. From geopolitical uncertainty and inflation pressures to AI disruption and higher-for-longer interest rates, the conversation explores the macro themes shaping portfolio decisions across the insurance industry.   Bob also breaks down how insurers are thinking about private market allocations beyond the broad "private credit" label. He explains differences across direct lending, asset-based lending, and other private debt categories, while highlighting the importance of portfolio construction, regulatory considerations, and maintaining underwriting discipline in a changing market environment.   The discussion also examines headline risk, board education, structuring considerations, and where investors may be finding opportunities as private market complexity continues to increase.

Chris Edson, Partner and Global Head of Origination at Apollo, and Bret Leas, Partner and Head of Asset-Backed Finance, join host Stewart Foley, CFA, for a conversation on how integrated origination platforms are shaping the future of asset-backed finance and private credit. The episode explores Apollo’s “One Apollo” approach, the importance of direct origination, and how customized financing solutions are changing the relationship between borrowers and institutional capital providers.   The discussion covers the rapid growth of the asset-backed finance market, structural protections within ABF transactions, and the convergence of public and private markets. Chris and Brett explain why long-duration institutional capital is increasingly aligned with long-duration assets, how insurers are approaching ABF as a core allocation, and why underwriting discipline, diversification, and collateral structure remain critical in today’s environment.   The episode also examines global housing finance, corporate asset monetization, insurance balance sheet strategy, asset-liability matching, and the scale of opportunity across private credit markets. Throughout the conversation, the guests share insights into Apollo’s origination ecosystem, problem-solving approach, and how integrated platforms can create long-term value for institutional investors.

Greg Michaud, Head of Real Estate Finance, and Stefanie Stewart, Head of Real Estate Investments at Voya Investment Management, join Stewart Foley, CFA, to explore why commercial mortgages continue to stand out within fixed income markets despite significant changes across the broader investment landscape. They discuss how relative value opportunities remain attractive, even as spreads in many other asset classes have tightened.   The conversation examines today's commercial real estate lending environment, including property valuations, underwriting discipline, and the impact of interest rates on lending activity. Greg and Stefanie explain how market conditions have shifted from previous cycles and why stable underwriting standards and realistic borrower expectations are contributing to stronger lending vintages.   They also break down differences across core, bridge, and construction lending strategies, discuss where investors are finding compelling opportunities outside of crowded sectors, and share perspectives on portfolio construction, risk selection, and long-term investment partnerships for insurers.

Patrick Manseau, CFA, Managing Director and Head of Infrastructure Debt for the Americas and Asia Pacific at MetLife Investment Management (MIM), joins host Stewart Foley, CFA, for a conversation on the evolving infrastructure debt market and the importance of maintaining discipline in today’s competitive private credit environment.   The episode explores how infrastructure is defined within institutional portfolios, the differences between infrastructure debt and traditional corporate or middle-market private credit, and how insurers are accessing opportunities across the asset class. Patrick also discusses origination, sponsor-friendly market dynamics, underwriting standards, covenant protections, and why long-term borrower and sponsor relationships remain essential in infrastructure investing.   The discussion also dives into digital infrastructure and the growing impact of AI-driven power demand, including the rapid growth of data centers, merchant power exposure, and the challenges of underwriting energy-related infrastructure assets in a changing market. Patrick shares how MetLife Investment Management coordinates risk across infrastructure, real estate, and asset-based finance platforms, along with broader perspectives on portfolio construction, asset-liability matching, and why infrastructure debt continues to play an important role for insurance investors seeking long-duration, capital-efficient fixed income exposure.

Ron Kantowitz, Managing Director and Head of Private Debt for Invesco’s Global Private Credit Group, joins the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast to examine the growing gap between headlines and reality in direct lending. As concerns around AI disruption, software exposure, and liquidity pressures dominate the narrative, Ron explains why many of these issues are being misinterpreted and why the broader private credit market remains fundamentally sound.   He shares how his team has approached risk differently, avoiding highly leveraged sectors like software due to structural concerns rather than market timing, and instead focusing on businesses with durable, non-discretionary demand. The discussion also dives into portfolio construction, the importance of sponsor-backed lending, and how private equity dynamics are evolving in a more uncertain environment.   Ron also outlines what institutional investors should be looking for when evaluating managers, from hidden risk indicators like “bad PIK” to diversification, leverage trends, and underwriting discipline. In a market shaped by volatility and shifting sentiment, this episode offers a clear framework for identifying real risk and opportunity in private credit.

Michael Timms, Managing Director and Co-Head of Fund Finance at Bayview Asset Management, joins the InsuranceAUM.com podcast to explore how fund finance has evolved into a critical and rapidly expanding segment of private markets. From its origins in subscription lines to today’s broader ecosystem including NAV lending, GP financing, and structured solutions, Michael outlines how innovation and growing capital demand are reshaping the landscape. In this episode, Michael shares where he is seeing the most compelling opportunities today, particularly as insurers increasingly play a larger role in providing capital where traditional banks have stepped back. He discusses how different fund finance strategies offer a wide range of risk-adjusted return profiles, and why understanding the structure and underlying collateral is key for effective portfolio construction. The conversation also dives into how insurers should think about accessing the space, where manager differentiation truly matters, and what potential risks or headwinds investors should keep in mind. As adoption continues to grow, fund finance is moving from a niche strategy to a core consideration for insurance portfolios.

Peter Braffman of GCM Grosvenor joins host Stewart Foley on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast to explore how real estate has evolved from a traditional institutional allocation into a far broader and more sophisticated asset class. Their conversation looks at how periods of dislocation have historically created new investment opportunities, why repricing matters in the current environment, and how insurance capital continues to play a major role across the market.   Peter also shares how his experience at Zurich shaped his perspective as an investor, particularly in understanding real estate not just as a collection of assets, but as a business driven by capital, operators, and long-term execution. Together, he and Stewart discuss how institutional investors, especially insurance companies, are approaching allocations differently today as they navigate higher rates, inflation uncertainty, and a changing capital markets backdrop.   The episode also covers some of the most talked-about segments in the market, including data centers and office, while highlighting where Peter sees compelling opportunities today. From specialty operators to operational outperformance and niche sectors that remain underfollowed, this is a thoughtful conversation on where real estate may be headed next and what that means for insurance-focused investors.

Drew Schardt, Co-Head of Direct Equity Investments at Hamilton Lane, joins the InsuranceAUM.com podcast to discuss how investors should be thinking about private markets in today’s uncertain environment. From the firm’s “Pandora’s Box” outlook to the broader macro backdrop, Drew breaks down the key forces shaping private equity, private credit, and portfolio construction.   Drew Schardt also explores the disconnect between headlines and underlying fundamentals, particularly in private credit, and why diversification, structure, and long-term positioning remain critical. The conversation touches on liquidity trends, secondaries, and the growing role of new investment structures as investors adapt to a more complex and dynamic market landscape.

Rachel Campbell, Portfolio Manager and Director of Securitized at Income Research and Management, and Kristoff Nelson, CFA, Director of Credit Research at Income Research and Management, join the InsuranceAUM.com podcast to explore how AI is changing the fixed income landscape. The conversation looks at the scale of the data center buildout, where capital is flowing, and how investors are evaluating opportunities across corporate and securitized markets. They also discuss the implications for credit quality, utilities, infrastructure, and portfolio construction as the lines between traditional fixed income sectors continue to blur. From bottom-up security selection to evolving risk frameworks, this episode offers a thoughtful look at how investors can approach one of the market’s most closely watched themes.

Brendan Murphy and Jim Kaniclides of Insight Investment join the InsuranceAUM.com podcast to explore how global fixed income can play a larger role in insurance portfolios. In the conversation with host Stewart Foley, they explain the size and structure of the global bond market, why U.S. insurers remain heavily concentrated in domestic fixed income, and how currency hedging can potentially turn global diversification into a source of additional yield rather than added cost.   They also discuss how insurers can access global fixed income through familiar portfolio structures, where relative value may exist across developed markets, and what risks could create headwinds for a global allocation. The episode offers a practical look at portfolio construction, accounting considerations, and the ways insurers can broaden their opportunity set while staying within investment grade and core fixed income frameworks.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Justin Pinckney, Head of Private Debt at AEW, to explore how investors are going beyond core commercial real estate (CRE) debt to uncover new sources of yield and diversification. The discussion begins with a market overview of real estate credit, highlighting the impact of higher interest rates, improving liquidity, and shifting risk-return dynamics across the CRE landscape. Stewart and Justin then dive into where AEW is finding the most compelling opportunities today, including alternative sectors like senior housing, while also outlining key underwriting considerations, risk management approaches, and portfolio construction strategies for insurance allocators. The episode also examines potential headwinds, the importance of information and execution advantages, and how disciplined lending can help investors navigate an evolving and increasingly complex market environment.

Bill Maclay, Portfolio Manager in Fidelity’s High Income and Alternatives Division, joins Stewart Foley for a timely conversation on high yield real estate lending and how insurers are positioning in this evolving segment of the market. With banks retrenching, capital structures shifting, and construction volumes slowing, Bill shares how Fidelity is identifying opportunity while managing credit and structural risk across the real estate debt landscape.   Drawing on more than two decades of experience across real estate equity and debt markets, Bill walks through key market dynamics, including the role of construction lending, geographic supply-demand imbalances, and where insurers can align capital with niche opportunities. He also discusses the potential for insurer partnerships, co-lending structures, and how Fidelity’s platform brings together public and private real estate capabilities to create value.   Whether you're focused on CRE debt allocations, yield targets, or managing risk in uncertain markets, this episode offers a grounded, forward-looking view of where the real estate lending market is headed.

Noah Funderburk, Portfolio Manager and Director of Securitized Credit at Pioneer Investments, joins the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast for a deep dive into the mechanics that matter most in structured credit.   In this episode, he explores why risk and discomfort are often the source of return, how credit risk and interest rate convexity can compound drawdowns, and why sponsor incentives should never be overlooked. The conversation moves beyond headline yield to focus on tranche-level analysis, correlation risk, asset obsolescence, and securitization structures that delever over time.   For insurance investors allocating to ABS, RMBS, CMBS, and multi-sector portfolios, this discussion offers a practical framework for evaluating complexity, pricing uncertainty, and managing downside risk in an evolving market environment.

Neda Vakilian of Actis and David Swift of General Atlantic join the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast to explore how growth equity and infrastructure equity are reshaping the opportunity set for insurance investors in the energy transition era. As electrification accelerates, AI drives non-linear power demand, and energy security becomes a strategic priority, they outline how these structural forces are creating durable, long-term investment themes.   The discussion examines the difference between traditional infrastructure debt and control-oriented equity strategies, highlighting capital-efficient growth businesses and essential, baseline infrastructure in both developed and growth markets. Neda and David detail how their teams approach risk, focusing on execution rather than technology risk, policy-agnostic business models, long-dated cash flows, and disciplined underwriting frameworks designed to support capital preservation.   They also address how sustainability outcomes can emerge from solving economic problems, aligning measurable impact with institutional-grade return expectations. For insurers navigating long-duration liabilities and evolving enterprise risk priorities, this conversation offers a practical perspective on deploying capital into a structurally changing energy landscape.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, speaks with Joel Hart, Managing Director and Chief Risk Officer at Victory Park Capital, about the growing concern of fraud risk in asset-backed finance (ABF) and private credit. As insurance investors increase exposure to these sectors, Joel offers a candid look at why borrower misconduct tends to spike in late-cycle markets and outlines the types of fraud currently emerging such as double pledging, falsified collateral, and manipulated reporting.   Joel also shares how Victory Park Capital’s independent risk function, data-driven monitoring systems, and hands-on portfolio management help mitigate these risks across the investment lifecycle. From the cultural importance of being willing to walk away from deals to key due diligence questions insurers should ask ABF managers, this episode delivers timely, actionable insights for insurance allocators navigating a complex credit landscape.

Chris Gudmastad, Managing Director and Portfolio Manager of Private Credit at Loomis Sayles, returns to the podcast for a deep dive into one of the most important shifts facing institutional investors: the convergence of public and private credit. As the traditional lines between market segments continue to blur, Chris offers a practical and forward-looking view of how insurers can adapt their frameworks for liquidity, complexity, and relative value.   With more than 20 years of experience in private placements, structured credit, and insurance-focused investing, Chris walks through how capital structures are evolving, how new vehicles and secondaries are redefining liquidity, and how to apply a unified risk premium framework across asset classes. He also shares insights into organizational convergence and how teams at Loomis are collaborating across disciplines to underwrite complex, cross-market opportunities.   Whether you’re refining your private credit allocations or evaluating new structures across public and private markets, this episode offers a grounded perspective on managing risk and return in 2026 and beyond.

Peter Schenck, Head of Liquidity Distribution at Northern Trust Asset Management, joins Stewart Foley for a timely conversation on how insurers are rethinking cash management in today's evolving environment. With over $350 billion in cash and short-duration assets under management, Peter offers an inside look at how liquidity is being used not just as a defensive allocation, but as a strategic tool for flexibility, capital efficiency, and operational readiness.   The discussion covers the growth of money market funds, the mechanics behind pooled liquidity vehicles, and the role of segmentation in managing operating versus strategic cash. Peter also shares forward-looking insights on tokenization, digitalization, and the future of liquidity in a 24/7 global economy. For insurers navigating volatility, regulation, and balance sheet demands, this episode offers clear and practical takeaways.

Kerry O’Brien, Head of Insurance Asset Management and Multi-Asset Solutions at MetLife Investment Management, and Harold Myers, CFA, Portfolio Manager in MIM’s Insurance Asset Management Group, discuss how insurers thoughtfully incorporate tactical asset allocation within long-term strategic asset allocation frameworks.   They explore how strategic asset allocation sets the foundation for resilient insurance portfolios, while tactical decisions allow insurers to respond to market dislocations, credit cycles, and shifting rate environments without resorting to market timing. The discussion covers governance, analytics, capital efficiency, and the role of experience and judgment in navigating complex insurance portfolios across market cycles.   The episode also looks ahead to how tactical and relative value investing may evolve for insurers, including the growing role of customized structures, public and private market integration, and technology in supporting disciplined, client-aligned investment decisions.

Scott Littman, Managing Director of Infrastructure Investments at GCM Grosvenor, joins host Stewart Foley, CFA, on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast for a wide-ranging discussion on infrastructure as a core component of modern insurance portfolios.   The conversation explores how infrastructure is defined today, why essential assets with long-duration cash flows and inflation linkage have become increasingly important, and how insurers are approaching infrastructure across debt and equity strategies. Scott also shares insights on capital efficiency, regulatory considerations, and portfolio construction as insurers expand their allocations to real assets.   The episode concludes with a look at the current macro environment, including opportunities and risks across sectors such as energy, transportation, and data centers, and practical considerations for insurers building or refining infrastructure programs.

Michelle Creed, Partner and Co-Head of Real Estate Secondaries, and Min Zhou, Managing Director in the Ares Secondaries Group, join host Stewart Foley, CFA, on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast for an in-depth discussion on real estate secondaries and how the market has evolved.   The conversation explores the growth of GP-led transactions and continuation vehicles, the impact of valuation resets and liquidity dynamics, and how real estate secondaries can be used as a portfolio management tool. Michelle and Min also address common misconceptions around discounts, asset quality, and the motivations behind secondary transactions.   The episode concludes with insights into portfolio construction considerations, diversification, and capital efficiency, particularly as institutional investors navigate shifting real estate and private market environments.

Private asset-based finance (ABF) is gaining prominence in insurance portfolio strategy as insurers evaluate its capital efficiency, structural protections, and yield potential. In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, Stewart Foley is joined by John Roglieri, Managing Director in Brookfield's Strategic Credit Initiatives, and Remo Plunkett, Vice President in Brookfield’s Credit Group, to explore the evolution of ABF and its growing relevance for insurers.   The discussion covers why ABF is not just a newer version of traditional securitized assets, but a broad, flexible toolkit that includes real assets, recurring cash flows, and customized structures tailored to insurer needs. With insights on risk management, capital treatment, and relative value versus direct lending, this episode offers a timely look at how insurers can build resilient portfolios in an increasingly complex credit environment.

On this episode of the InsuranceAUM Podcast, Pete Miller, President and CEO of The Institutes, joins host Stewart Foley for a wide-ranging conversation on the newly announced affiliation and why it represents a meaningful step forward for the insurance industry. Together, they discuss how The Institutes’ more than century-long legacy in professional education complements InsuranceAUM’s focus on insurance investment knowledge, and why closing the education gap between underwriting, operations, and investing is becoming increasingly important as portfolios grow more complex.   The conversation also dives into leadership, culture, and the role of values in building organizations that last. Miller shares insights from his career at the intersection of technology and insurance, including how The Institutes evaluates partnerships, why ethics remain foundational to innovation, and what it takes to prepare professionals for jobs that are still being defined. Foley reflects on the origins of InsuranceAUM, the motivation behind expanding educational access for insurance investors, and the vision for developing the next generation of talent through structured, credible learning.   Looking ahead, the episode explores how advances in AI and data are reshaping both insurance operations and investment decision-making. Miller and Foley discuss how education can help insurers move beyond loss recovery toward risk prevention, why responsible AI adoption matters, and how continuous learning will be essential as strategic planning, risk management, and capital allocation evolve. Together, they offer a thoughtful perspective on where the industry is headed and how this partnership aims to support insurance professionals at every stage of their careers.

Aakash Doshi, Global Head of Gold for the SPDR ETF business at State Street Global Advisors, joins host Stewart Foley on the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast for an in-depth discussion on one of the most talked-about asset classes in recent years. The conversation explores the macroeconomic, geopolitical, and structural forces that have shaped gold markets since the post-pandemic period.   Aakash shares his perspective on central bank demand, ETF flows, global debt levels, and the concept of gold as an alternative fiat hedge. He also explains why gold is often viewed as a left-tail asset and how it differs from other commodities and digital assets in institutional portfolios.   The episode concludes with a practical discussion around implementation, including how institutional and insurance investors access gold exposure at scale and what risks could influence the outlook heading into 2026. This episode is for educational purposes only and does not constitute investment advice.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA is joined by Shiloh Bates, CFA, Partner and Chief Investment Officer of Flat Rock Global, for a deep dive into collateralized loan obligations and their role in insurance portfolios. Shiloh explains how CLOs function as structured credit vehicles, the problems they solve in the private credit market, and how different tranches offer distinct risk-return profiles for investors. The conversation explores current market dynamics, including elevated default rates, spread behavior, and where Shiloh sees potential opportunities across CLO equity and junior debt. Shiloh also discusses underwriting discipline, diversification benefits, rated feeder structures, and how insurers can think about CLOs relative to direct loan exposure when constructing resilient, risk-aware portfolios.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA sits down with Noelle “Elle” Sisco, Managing Director, Portfolio Manager, and Lead Portfolio Strategist at First Eagle Napier Park, to discuss where structured credit can offer real value for insurance investors and where caution is warranted. Elle shares her background across public and private credit markets and explains how First Eagle Napier Park approaches alternative credit within a multi-strategy investment framework.   The conversation explores how insurers can evaluate structured credit through disciplined underwriting, with a focus on collateral analysis, liquidity management, and active portfolio positioning. Elle also addresses late-cycle dynamics, elevated idiosyncratic risk, emerging collateral types, and the importance of separating true underwriting skill from beta-driven returns when constructing resilient insurance portfolios.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, is joined by Cindy Beaulieu, Chief Investment Officer of Conning North America, and Matt Reilly, Managing Director and Head of Insurance Solutions at Conning. Together, they explore the complex economic, policy, and portfolio construction themes shaping insurance investment strategies heading into 2026. With volatility receding and consumption staying strong, Conning sees cautious optimism grounded in fundamental, long-term portfolio planning.   The discussion covers key topics including the rising complexity of insurance portfolios, the expanding role of private assets, and the importance of core fixed income as a risk ballast. Cindy and Matt offer insight into how insurers are balancing liquidity needs, capital requirements, and regulatory scrutiny while adapting to a structurally different rate and policy environment. With real-world examples and a thoughtful look at long-term strategy, this episode provides valuable perspective for insurance investors navigating today’s market challenges.

Tobias Gummersbach, Enterprise Capital Strategist at New England Asset Management, joins the InsuranceAUM Podcast to discuss how insurers can apply stress and scenario testing to strengthen portfolio construction. With a focus on translating complex risks into clear, actionable insights, Tobias explains how these tools can help insurers evaluate exposure, guide asset allocation decisions, and support long-term capital planning.   The conversation covers how insurers can move beyond traditional risk measures to better understand the potential impact of severe but plausible events. Tobias shares practical examples of how scenario testing is being used in real-world investment strategy, helping firms assess trade-offs between risk and return, improve communication with stakeholders, and better align portfolios with enterprise risk objectives. This episode provides valuable insights for insurance investment professionals navigating an increasingly complex risk environment.

Infrastructure equity is no longer just about toll roads and utilities—it’s becoming a core part of insurance portfolio strategy. In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, Gianluca Minella, Head of Research at InfraRed Capital Partners (a part of SLC Management), joins host Stewart Foley for a wide-ranging conversation on infrastructure’s growing relevance for insurers.   Drawing on findings from SLC Management’s recent global insurance survey, Gianluca shares insights into how insurers are allocating across core, core-plus, and value-add strategies. The discussion covers inflation protection, regulatory treatment, digitalization, decarbonization, valuation discipline, and infrastructure’s role as both a defensive and growth-oriented asset class.   Whether you’re focused on diversification, long-term returns, or navigating macro risks, this episode offers timely and practical insight into how infrastructure equity is being used by insurers to enhance portfolio resilience and performance.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM Podcast, DoubleLine’s Andrew Hsu and Fifi Wong share their insights on building resilient insurance portfolios through asset-backed securities (ABS) and asset-based finance (ABF). With more than a decade of experience in structured products and a track record of navigating shifting market conditions, they offer a detailed look at underwriting discipline, deal sourcing, and how their approach has helped avoid high-profile credit pitfalls like recent subprime auto bankruptcies.   From the early days of FinTech-backed student loans to today’s more complex private ABF opportunities in sectors like aviation and energy infrastructure, this episode explores how DoubleLine evaluates new collateral types, maintains portfolio quality, and partners with insurance investors for long-term success.   Hosted by Stewart Foley, this discussion is a must-listen for insurance asset managers, CIOs, and anyone interested in how structured credit strategies are evolving in today's uncertain environment.   Listen now and subscribe to stay current on trends in insurance asset management.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com Podcast, host Stewart Foley sits down with Siddharth Dahiya, Global Head of Emerging Market Debt at Aberdeen Investments, to unpack one of the most dynamic and evolving areas of institutional fixed income—emerging market debt (EMD). With decades of experience in global markets and deep roots in insurance investing, Siddharth provides a clear and comprehensive breakdown of the EMD universe—from hard currency sovereigns and corporates to local currency bonds and frontier markets.   The discussion covers the structural advantages of EMD, including improving fundamentals, increasing credit rating upgrades, and attractive spreads versus similarly rated developed market debt. Siddharth also dives into how private credit within emerging markets is gaining traction with insurance portfolios, offering enhanced yields and structural protections. For insurance investors seeking diversification, real yield, and capital efficiency, this episode offers actionable insights into a sector that's once again demanding attention.   Whether you're seeking a defensive allocation or exploring yield-enhancing strategies, Siddharth shares why now may be the right time to give EMD a second look.

In this episode of the InsuranceAUM.com podcast, host Stewart Foley, CFA, sits down with Alexey Teplukhin, Managing Director at Blue Owl Capital, to explore the often-overlooked but critical role of data centers and digital infrastructure in the global economy. Alexey offers expert insights into how these assets are enabling everything from everyday digital activity to the exponential rise of artificial intelligence. The conversation begins with the basics what a data center actually is and quickly dives into what makes them such a compelling, long-term real asset investment. The discussion also covers how demand for data infrastructure is accelerating, what risks exist around technological disruption, and why Blue Owl focuses on the physical backbone of the digital world rather than trying to bet on the next software winner. With analogies ranging from toll roads to airports, this episode delivers a clear, engaging look at the intersection of AI, infrastructure, and investment strategy making it a must-listen for institutional investors navigating a rapidly evolving digital landscape.

In this episode, Stewart Foley welcomes Ryan Brauns of Ares US Direct Lending for a deep dive into the mechanics and momentum behind one of the industry’s most influential private credit platforms. Ryan explains how Ares has scaled its direct lending business, the role of underwriting discipline, and why duration alignment remains one of the most important considerations for insurers entering the asset class.   The conversation explores everything from the structure of Ares’ capital pools to how leverage, covenants, and loan-to-value ratios fit into today’s market realities. Ryan also shares insights on spread dynamics, the rise of retail participation, and how insurers, large and small, are thinking about private credit in their strategic asset allocations.   Whether you’re new to private credit or want a deeper look behind the scenes of one of the space’s leading managers, this episode offers valuable clarity and perspective for insurance investment professionals.

Nancy Mueller Handal, Chief Investment Officer of Insurance Asset Management at Bayview Asset Management, shares her insights on how insurers can pursue alpha through residential loans and asset-based finance. With extensive experience in structured credit, Nancy explains why residential whole loans can be a strong fit for insurance portfolios when managed with discipline and precision. She discusses the capital efficiency of the asset class, the appeal of agency-eligible and non-QM loans, and the role of thoughtful underwriting in mitigating risk.   The discussion also covers the evolution of the residential credit market, the importance of robust data and infrastructure, and the risks that come with layered credit and valuation gaps. Nancy outlines how Bayview’s platform approaches sourcing and portfolio construction at scale, and why residential loans can provide diversification and long-term value when approached with a careful, insurer-aligned strategy.