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into the WILderness
by CEWIL Canada
Into the WILderness is weekly, topic-driven show where we dive deeper into the world of Work Integrated Learning or WIL. Brought to you by CEWIL Canada, the lead organization for Work Integrated Learning in Canada.
Episodes
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From Theory to Impact: WIL in Graduate Science Education
We're back with the third and final chapter in the CEWIL Conference Chronicles! A 3 part series of short episodes recorded live during the 2025 CEWIL Canada Conference in Hamilton, ON. Spoiler alert if you didn't look at the runtime, this one isn't short! It's not everyday you get to sit across…
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Reflecting on Reflective Practice
We're back with part 2 in the CEWIL Conference Chronicles! A 3 part series of short episodes captured live during the 2025 CEWIL Canada Conference in Hamilton, ON. On this episode I sit down with published experiential education researcher and fellow podcaster, Dr. Bill Heinrich. Many impromptu...
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Influencing Local Recruitment Through Experiential Learning
Welcome to the CEWIL Conference Chronicles! A 3 part series of short episodes captured live during the 2025 CEWIL Canada Conference in Hamilton, ON. On this episode I sit down with long time friend of the show, David DiPietro as he prepares for his conference presentation on The Innovation...
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And the 2024 CEWIL Student of the Year Award Goes to...
It's been one year to the day since the last episode dropped and I'm thrilled to announce we're back for Season 5! To celebrate the National Day of WIL, we've got a special episode queued up with 4 absolutely outstanding and inspiring students. Tune in and listen to their stories, hear about…
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Something to Believe In - A Student of the Year Story
To celebrate the National Day of WIL, we're back with Season 4! I'm kicking off this season by diving deeper into the stories of CEWIL Canada's 2023 Students of the Year. First up is Jayde Medland (College and CEGEP, Co-op), who is a recent graduate of Algonquin College's Interactive Media Design...
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Building Trust - 50 Years of CEWIL Canada
Sept. 26, 2023 marks 50 years for CEWIL Canada. From its origins as CAFCE in 1973 with a small group of passionate individuals to the leading organization on all things Work-Integrated Learning in Canada, it's been a journey. It's important to reflect on these 50 years, celebrate the successes…
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A.I.griculture - Using Artificial Intelligence to Revolutionize the Agriculture Industry
It's been almost two years since I got my boots dirty in the Ag-tech industry and chatted all things agriculture with the Canadian Agricultural Human Resource Council (CAHRC). Joining Jennifer Wright on this episode is Sean Rudd, co-founder of Korotu, a software company that turns remote sensing...
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Standard Lines - Debating the "Rules" of Co-op Accreditation
Live from the 2023 CEWIL Conference in Halifax, NS, I sit down with Cara Krezek and Anne Marie Fannon fresh off a feisty debate in their session about making changes to the way CEWIL Canada accredits cooperative education programs in this country. The crux of this discussion focusses on two main...
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To Infinity and Beyond...The Work Term - Taking Co-operative Education to the Next Level
Live from the 2023 CEWIL Conference in Halifax, NS, I sit down with Julia Zhu, Associate Director of Cooperative Education at Brock University to explore how she and her team are taking co-op beyond the work term. We chat career competencies, skills translation and debrief her session on building…
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Never Tell me the Odds - Leveling the Internship Playing Field
Live from the 2023 CEWIL Conference in Halifax, NS, I sit down with Cherine Zananiri, Director of Experiential Learning and Co-operative Education at Concordia University to talk about their Beat the Odds Internship program - an inclusive and flexible internship program that levels the playing...
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Some Supervision Required - What Do we Know About Co-Op Supervisors?
Live from the 2023 CEWIL Conference in Halifax, NS, I sit down with Cora Dupuis, Co-op Coordinator at Brandon University and Ph.D. student in Educational Studies at Brock University who is researching what we know (and don't know) about Co-op Supervisors. We chat about existing research in this...
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Jot This Down! The Power to Build Meaningful Relationships
Live from the 2023 CEWIL Conference, I sit down with one of our sponsors, Elina Chow, Founder of Jot Tech - a networking app that lets you build strong relationships and eliminate the post conference admin work of laying business cards on a table trying to remember who each belongs to. On this...
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WIL Down Under
It's National WIL month for us here in Canada with this year's theme #WILinternational - tag it in your posts!! That means another virtual flight for me and this time my boarding pass lands me in Wollongong, Australia where the weather is lovely this time of year. On this episode I am joined by…
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Where Have all the Good Tourists Gone? An Update on Canada's Tourism and Hospitality Industry
Just over a year ago, I looked into Canada's tourism and hospitality industry to find out how it was trying to recover and the role that WIL played in getting more students and new grads into this sector. Fast forward to today and it's still very much in a state of recovery, but in a better place...
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Scott Davis, WIL! True Waterloo Story
How do you celebrate the career of someone who has spent 36 years in the wilderness that is Work Integrated Learning? You dedicate an entire episode of your WIL podcast to them, that's how! On this episode I am joined by the one and only Scott Davis, who, after 36 years at the University of...
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CSI: StFX - A CEWIL iHub Story
There’s something to be said about gaining actual experience in your field of study prior to graduating. It’s helpful on a number of levels; do I like this? Do I dislike it? Do I have a full understanding of what’s involved in this industry/sector? Are there other avenues I could explore or paths…
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CEWIL Wrapped - 2022 Year in Review
As we near the end of 2022, I am joined once again by my amazing co-host Charlene Marion to recap the year that was! It's our very own top 10, CEWIL style. Tune in for a quick recap of our favourite highlights from the last 365 - all of which can be summarized in one word, EXCITING! There's a ton...
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Cells at War - A CEWIL iHub Story
Since Feb. 2021, CEWIL Canada has been distributing funding nationwide through The CEWIL iHub! It operates as a centre of expertise that provides grant-based funding to enable and promote curricular work-integrated learning (WIL) focusing primarily on industry projects, entrepreneurial WIL, field...
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The North Remembers - An Exploration of Non-Profit WIL in Northern Canada
It's not a secret that non-profit organizations (NPOs) stand to benefit from engaging in WIL just as much, if not more, than their for-profit counterparts. However there are a significant number of challenges that often emerge when partnering with NPOs or that prevent the partnership in the first...
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Big Decisions - Optional vs. Mandatory WIL Programming
When I kicked off Season 2 I mentioned I would be joined by some co-hosts to get into the weeds on some more opinion driven topics. After some technical difficulties and scheduling conflicts, I am pleased to welcome David DiPietro back to the show in the co-host seat. Fresh into his new role as...
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Keep em Integrated - Building Canada's First Work-Integrated Degree Program
A few episodes ago I went International for the first time and sat down with Dr. Trevor Gerhardt. On that episode he introduced me to an alternative learning pathway called Degree Apprenticeships – I said, why don’t we have these in Canada? Some things have an odd way of timing out as literally…
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Boogie with STU - A Student Success Story from WIL to the Workplace
For many practitioners in the WIL space there’s an underlying goal that by participating in WIL, students will discover a passion and/or find their way into the world of work. Strong evidence of this exists in co-op but other forms of WIL don’t have as direct a link. Now every once and a while it...
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If At First You Don't Succeed, C4! The Cross-Campus Capstone Classroom
I've often heard stories about this WIL utopia where students from any program, any discipline can unite in one curricular course, work together, obtain course credit and benefit their community - all while developing and strengthening their skills, setting them up for their future after...
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You're the One that I Want...Post Secondary Institution that is!
Late September is the official launch of Recruitment SZN on post secondary campuses across the country. The reasoning behind why students select a school is one of the great mysteries of our time...well, not really, there are trends. So I wondered, where does Work Integrated Learning fall on the...
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London Calling to the WILderness
A first for the show - I'm going across the pond to London, England...well figuratively speaking. Canada is a big country and has some pretty amazing people, but we aren't the only ones doing cool and innovative things when it comes to WIL. This week I sit down with Dr. Trevor Gerhardt, Lead...
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Brainstorm This! Stats Tell A Story, But are We Listening?
When it comes to WIL and students, statistics/trends tell a story, and a complicated one at that. It’s a summation of their perceived reality of the world around them (educational factors, internal factors, external factors). They put this all together to help inform what they will do when they...
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WIL-ifying WIL Prep
WE'RE BAAAACCKKKK!! Season 2 kicks off in style with my new part time co-host Charlene Marion. On this episode we explore the concept of adding work integrated learning to prep courses like those seen in cooperative education programs. We talk about why this has been shown to increase retention…
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The Deathly Hallows of Experiential Learning
Explaining experiential learning and work integrated learning is not as simple as one may think. The approach and way you do it must be tailored to your audience; students, faculty, employers, community partners. On this episode I dive into how we talk about WIL and uncover an approach that is...
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Maintaining Quality While Increasing Quantity - A Look Inside the World's Largest Co-op Program
25,000+ students, 7100+ employers, 60+ countries. The University of Waterloo boasts the largest cooperative education program in the world! We're going big to kick off National Co-op and WIL month here at CEWIL. On this episode I explore how Waterloo grew from its co-op roots in 1957 to the…
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Good WIL Hunting - Faculty Barriers to Engaging in Work Integrated Learning
I've discussed a number of barriers to work-integrated learning on previous episodes, but this one gets to the very core especially when it comes to course-based WIL. Faculty members and instructors typically hold the keys to their own courses and introducing a new WIL component takes time and...
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Where There's a WIL, There's a way to...Greater Employability???
It's the age old question...well maybe not "age-old" but it's been floating around for a while; does the number of work experiences and WIL opportunities lead to greater employability in students? This week I revisit the topic of competency development and my guest helps unpack some of his latest...
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Tough Conversations - Ending a Community/Industry Partnership
Despite all the planning and expectations ironed out well in advance, there are times when a community partner or employer situation just isn't working out. Sometimes you can ride it out until the end of the course or work term, but other times require an intervention and in some cases, a...
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What's Wrong with the word 'Placement'?
Irish novelist Samuel Beckett once said "Words are all we have", well on this episode I dive into one of those words that seems to be a fixture in the Work Integrated Learning space; Placement or Placements. Starting with the definition of the word and moving along to why this word can lead to...
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Driving into 2022 - A SWPP Feature with Trucking HR Canada
WE'RE BAAAACK! It's our first episode of 2022 and we're picking up right where we left off. This week I sit down with Trucking HR Canada to talk about the recent federal vaccine mandate on Canadian truck drivers, the 23,000 job vacancies across trucking and logistics, student talent opportunities...
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Institutional Inertia and Navigating Internal Barriers to WIL
We've discussed external barriers to WIL, but we've never taken an inward look at institutions when they become the barrier. That changes today! On this episode I'm joined by Charlene Marion - Director of WIL, CEWIL Canada to have an open an honest conversation of our experiences in the WIL space...
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AgriTalent: Growing our People - A SWPP Feature with the Canadian Agricultural Human Resource Council
Growing plants in your backyard is something, growing careers in the agriculture sector is something else! On this episode I sit down with the Canadian Agricultural Human Resource Council (CAHRC) to talk about their AgriTalent program and the Ag-tech industry. We chat about the challenges finding...
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WIL from Home - How COVID Changed the Co-op Process
Prior to March 2020, remote work terms were a rarity, an exception to the norm. Fast forward 20 months and they have become a staple in co-op programs across the country. On this episode we explore the assumptions, realizations and new realities of remote work terms; how they have reduced…
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WIL Types - Community and Industry Projects
At CEWIL we have defined 9 types of curricular WIL. While they all look a little different at each institution, there is consistency at the core of each type. This episode dives into the world of Community and Industry Research and Projects (CIRPS) to explore best practices, cultivating and...
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Planting Seeds and Growing Careers - A SWPP Feature with ECO Canada
Championing the end-to-end career of environmental professionals is no small task. On this episode I sit down with ECO Canada to talk about their Student Work Placement Program, training and mentorship and the value of obtaining program accreditation. For more information on ECO Canada's SWP...
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A Changing of the Guard - Prepping for the CEWIL Canada AGM
CEWIL Canada has seen a lot of changes over the past two years! As the organization prepares for it's Annual General Meeting (AGM) it's time to reflect back on these changes and look forward. On this episode I sit down with the current President and President-Elect of CEWIL Canada to chat about...
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Empowering Futures in Electricity - A SWPP Feature with Electricity HR Canada
If you want insights into an industry that literally keeps the lights on in this country - this one is for you! On this episode I sit down with Electricity HR Canada (EHRC) to talk about their Empowering Futures program, discuss the unique competency framework they have developed, and take a deep...
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WIL Types - Community Service Learning
At CEWIL we have defined 9 types of curricular WIL. While they all look a little different at each institution, there is consistency at the core of each type. This episode dives into the world of Community Service Learning (CSL) and Community Engaged Learning (CEL) to uncover some of the truths...
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Propelling Careers in Tourism & Hospitality - A SWPP Feature with Tourism HR Canada
The COVID-19 pandemic has impacted a number of industries across the country and the tourism & hospitality industry is near, if not at the top of that list. The challenge now is how to address the labour crisis this industry is facing. On this episode I sit down with one of the newest Student…
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There's an "Art" to Skill Articulation
WIL often leads to the development of new skills or the strengthening of existing ones. The challenge for students is realizing this in the moment and taking the time to reflect. On this episode we explore the challenges that arise for students when trying to articulate skills and competencies on...
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What is WIL?
Join Dan Lonergan as he takes a deeper dive into the world of Work Integrated Learning (WIL). Before diving into WIL, we take a step back and talk about what WIL is, what it means, who’s involved, and what it means for industry and WIL partners. Guests Dr. Nancy Johnston - Past President of WACE,...
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Into the WILderness is weekly, topic-driven show where we dive deeper into the world of Work Integrated Learning or WIL. Brought to you by CEWIL Canada, the lead organization for Work Integrated Learning in Canada.
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