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It Might Get Weird: Journeys in Veterinary Medicine

Welcome to "It Might Get Weird," the podcast where we dive into the journeys of veterinary professionals. Your hosts are Dr. Gary Marshall and Sara Rae. Gary has been a veterinarian for more than 35 years. Sara has been a veterinarian for zero years. That's about to change and that's why we're here. Our main focus will be to follow Sara on adventures as a Washington State University class of 2028 veterinary student. We’ll be along for the ride as she encounters challenges, and celebrates triumphs during her 4 year commitment to become a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine. Along the way, we’ll also interview super interesting individuals who have valuable stories to share about their personal and professional journeys. 

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    S3 : E2 - Get to know Spencer Stelly, National SAVMA President

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.This episode Highlights Mr. Spencer Stelly. He is the current National SAVMA President, and a current 4th year veterinary student at Louisiana State University. Also joining is the National SAVMA President Elect, Ms. Cayden Smith. During the recording session for this episode, Cayden was unavoidably late. She will be highlighted in the next episode, so please come back and listen to that. Gary has known both Spencer and Cayden through his role as AVMA Vice President and the connections developed while working with SAVMA and attending Veterinary Leadership Experience. These episodes reveal paths to student leadership, and a little of the time and energy student leaders commit to their roles. Spoiler: they both claim that although it's a lot, they wouldn't change a thing! Enjoy getting to know Spencer during this episode , and stay tuned for S3 : E3 to get to know Cayden. Thanks for listening.SAVMA = @studentavmaVeterinary Leadership Experience = @veterinaryleadershipinstituteSpencer Stelly = @spencer_stellyCayden Smith = @caydengraaceBrandy Duhon, DVM = @nohandedbanditYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S3 : E1 - Welcome to the pod Bianca, and welcome back to school!

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.I hope everyone had a great summer. I hope everyone is caught up listening to Season 1 and Season 2, because here we are kicking off Season 3!We have a new Co-Host - Bianca Plowman. She's been on the pod before (S2 : E9 & S2 : E18). We hope Sara will pop in a lot this season. She's just so busy!! In this episode, we mainly get caught up with what we did this summer, and talk about what's coming up with Year Three of vet school at WSU. We have a great interview coming up with SAVMA President Spencer Stelly, and SAVMA Vice President Cayden Smith.  Stay tuned for that one as Season 3 Episode 2. Enjoy. And if you do enjoy it, please take a second to give a rating and write a review on your favorite podcast app. If you didn't enjoy it, please disregard that request. *our apologies for the audio quality of this episode. most of the reasons were out of our control. please know we are making strides to insure it's the best quality possible going forward. thanks for understandingYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E23 - The End of Season 2: Gary and Sara wrap up Vet School Year 2

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.This is the last episode of season 2! Gary and Sara finally found time in their schedules to actually record another episode together. It should be no surprise to anyone that it leans heavy on the topic of Shelter Medicine and Access to Care. But don't worry, there are plenty of detours to interest those not focused as much on those topics. Thanks so much for following along. We'll be taking another break for summer. See you back again in August. D.C. = Diagnostic Challenge, the case based communications intensive week at Washington State University College of Veterinary MedicineDoney-Coe Pet ClinicRAVS = Rural Area Veterinary ServicesHiraya Animal Shelter in the PhilippinesYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E22 - The Emily Collins Episode - Part 2

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Thanks for coming back for Part 2 with Vet Student Emily Collins. In this episode we dive deep into Emily's gap year. So many aspiring vet students have setbacks with their plans. Emily, like Gary did not get accepted during her first application cycle. As you'll learn through Emily's story, her gap year turned out to be a big blessing and it seems to have set her up well for future opportunities she never would have imagined if she were accepted that first time around. Enjoy this episode, and thanks for listening. Emily Collins on LinkedInEmily Collins on InstagramYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E21 - The Emily Collins Episode - Part 1

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.We are so excited to introduce Emily Collins to all of you. At the time of this interview, Emily was finishing her first year as a Texas A&M Veterinary Student at their VERO campus in Canyon, Texas. Gary met Emily while at SAVMA Symposium in Raleigh, NC this spring and was fascinated and impressed with her drive and passion for political advocacy in veterinary medicine at such an early part of her career. In part 1, we get to know her path to vet school, and how a detour along that path sparked her interest in advocacy. I'm confident you will enjoy getting to know her and will also want to come back next week for Part 2 (S2 : E22). Thanks for listening. Emily Collins on LinkedInEmily Collins on InstagramYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E20 - The Sydney Paris Episode - Part 2

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.If you haven't listened to S2 : E19, which is the Sydney Paris interview Part 1, go there now it's great, and it's not too long. You can listen to both. As good as that was, I think this episode is even more special. In this episode, we learn a bit more of what motivated Sydney to do all the things she does. I even learned amazing new things! Sydney has started her own affinity group! Listen, Learn, Enjoy. We're glad you stopped by. Sydney on InstagramDVMC - Developing Vet Med CareersBest Friends Animal SanctuarySAVMA - Student American Veterinary Medical AssociationAmerican Pre-Vet Medical AssociationIthaca Street Dog CoalitionFirst Generation Low Income Group at Cornell on InstagramYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E19 - The Sydney Paris Episode - Part 1

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.We are excited for you to listen to this episode with Class of '27 Cornell Vet Student Sydney Paris. As usual, this conversation went long so it will be a two parter. You really will want to listen to this before season 2 episode 20. It really sets the stage for that part of the conversation. Please explore Sydney's LinkedIn when you get a chance. We could only touch on all the places she's been and experiences she's had. Thanks so much for listening. Please tell your friends about this. Sydney's LinkedInYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E18 - Bianca Plowman nears the half-way point of vet school

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.It was so fun to have second year Washington State University vet student Bianca Plowman back on the podcast. Sara was unable to be with us for this recording session in Pullman while Gary was in the Palouse for a beautiful spring weekend. Listen in on Bianca explaining how, for her, everything is starting to come together as year 2 winds down. They talk a bit about class dynamics, team work, and summer plans. You can tell that they enjoyed their time talking together. We hope you enjoy this episode. Thanks for listening.Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E17 - Choose People Love Pets Crosspost Episode Part 2

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Here is the rest of the conversation from the crosspost of the Choose People Love Pets podcast hosted by Dr. Brianna Armstrong (Part 1 was S2 : E16). Please go back and listen to Part 1 first, as we pick up right where that left off to complete Brianna's interview with Gary.  Thanks again for listening. We're glad you stopped by.Choose People Love Pets on LinkedInChoose People Love Pets on YouTubeChoose People Love Pets on Apple PodcastsChoose People Love Pets on InstagramYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E16 - Choose People Love Pets Crosspost Episode Part 1

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.The tables have been turned this week as we are crossposting from the podcast Choose People Love Pets where the host Dr. Brianna Armstrong interviewed Gary recently. Gary is very excited that someone else has done the editing instead of him! If you want to learn more about Gary, listen in. And please check out Choose People Love Pets. You'll meet some super interesting individuals through Brianna's interviews, and pick up great clinic culture content from the episodes cohosted by Phoebe Valdez. Thanks for listening. Come back for part 2 of this conversation (Season 2, Epsisode 17)Choose People Love Pets on LinkedInChoose People Love Pets on YouTubeChoose People Love Pets on Apple PodcastsChoose People Love Pets on InstagramYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E15 - Zonram in the House!! (Part 2)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.If the Zonram interview Part 1 was all about fun, Part 2 is all about wisdom. Dr. Zonram Liao shares more of his thoughts on community, culture, and of course grit. If you follow Z on social media and have only seen that goofy side of this man, please listen to this episode. In insights on what's the recipe for a wonderful, sustainable vet med, and his optimism for the future will truly have you wanting to send an appreciative fist-bump through your device. This 30 minute listen will leave you so inpired and motivated to work to make his vision a reality. Thanks for listening.Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E14 - Zonram in the House!! (Part 1)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.This week's guest is Dr. Zonram Liao. If you know Z, or know of Z, you know this is a fun episode before you ever hit play. And even if you've heard his story on other podcasts or magazines he has been featured in, I promise you will learn new aspects of his history and also his motivation to keep giving back to his community and the veterinary profession. This is part 1 of 2 with Dr. Z. Thanks for listening. Who do you want us to interview next?Instagram = @dr.zonramliaoSunshine Veterinary CareWellnergy Pet ProductsYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E13 - What's happening with 2nd Semester of 2nd Year?

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Apologies for the lag between episodes. Life. This episode finds Sara and Gary mostly just catching up on life. It does offer a view inside of Sara's mindset as she takes on the 2nd semester of her 2nd of 4 years in Washington State Universities College of Veterinary Medicine. Gary shares some great conversations he had while at NAVC's VMX in Orlando, with old and new friends. Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E12 - Part 2 with The Christine Staten, DVM, MBA her Professional Story

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.We learned Chrisitine Staten's Origin Story last week on Season 2 Episode 11 (part 1). Now we dive into her professional career from Associate to Practice Owner to Business Cheerleader. I hope you have all listened to Part 1, but if not, make sure you do. Sara and I had such a great time learning from Christine, and I think you will too.Christine on Instagram = @veterinary_mbaThe Veterinary MBA WebsiteYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E11 - The Christine Staten, DVM, MBA Origin Story

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.What a fun episode? Chrisitine Staten, DVM, MBA is probably not a stranger to many, but have you heard her "Origin Story"? Did you know that Veterinary Medicine wasn't on her short list of career choices well into her undergrad studies? That's just a teaser. We won't tell you more. You have to listen. Sara is also back after a couple episodes off so we get to catch up a little with her as will. Another spoiler, the Christine content is being split into two episodes. It was just too much to cram into one. Christine on Instagram = @veterinary_mbaThe Veterinary MBA WebsiteYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E10 - FIP and more with Hunter and Bianca (Part 2)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.If you haven't listened to S2 : E9 yet, go back and do that first. That's part 1 to this part 2. In this episode we get into a bit more detail about FIP, before we detour around prior to landing on a conversation about customer service and where we think it's going in the future. Enjoy getting to know Bianca Plowman and Hunter Spielvogel a little more. Hopefully you'll also be educated during this episode along the way. Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E9 - Let's meet Bianca and Hunter (Part 1)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.In this episode, Gary has a conversation with Sara's classmates; Bianca Plowman and Hunter Spielvogel. Unfortunately Sara was unable to join the conversation. This is a bit of a continuation of our Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine Diagnostic Challenge conversation, but this is a Post-DC talk instead of a Pre-DC talk. Spoiler alert! the case we had the challenge involves Feline Infectious Peritonitis (FIP). References:Bianca Plowman on InstagramHunter Spielvogel on InstagramWSU CVM Diagnostic ChallengeHyperfixed FIP Episode Part 1Hyperfixed FIP Episode Part 2Hyperfixed FIP Episode Part 3Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E8 - The Acronym Episode - DC (Diagnostic Challenge) and HPAI (Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.This epsisode finds Gary and Sara hanging out and catching up. They talk about what they've been doing and what they're looking forward to. Some of it is same old, same old as Sara has been taking tests and working in her ER and Shelter Med jobs. Gary has been on the road. Hi latest visits have been the Ohio State Univesity, Rowan University, University of Pennsylvania, Cornell University and Michigan State University.   Thanks for listening WSU College of Veterinary Medicine Diagnostic ChallengeFarVetsYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E7 - True Crime Episode replay

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.If you didn't listen to Season 1 Episode 22, you missed out on a great episode. But fortunately we are posting it again here. Besides, it's also Gary's birthday today and he wants to take the week off from editing new content. If you're a true crime fan, especially if you want to learn a bit of veterinary related crime history, please listen to this episode. This story is truly shocking!Warning: Don't listen if you're triggered by stories of murder. Maybe don't listen while you're in a taxi or a ride share or if you've just gotten into a car with a random stranger. Maybe just don't hitchhike and get into cars with random stranger's anyway.Otherwise, wait until all the trick-or-treaters are done for the night, turn out the lights, light some candles, and curl up on the couch and listen to this very true, very much crime related story about an inventor of a very common companion animal surgical instrument (that you will never forget the name of after this).The following are reference materials used in the production of this episode.WikipediaTrue Detective January 1930True Detective February 1930medium.com by Amy DrakeYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E6 - What has Gary been up to lately

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Occasionally we need to get caught up with where Gary has been recently and what he's learned. This is one of those episodes. Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E5 - The Diagnostic Challenge Episode

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Sara and Gary get together for a chat after a 5 week gap between recordings. This episode gets everyone caught up with Sara's academic schedule. Basically lots of tests! They go into detail about Sara's recent Diagnostic Challenge week. Diagnostic Challenge may be unique in name for Washington State University and Utah State University's second year curriculum, but it most likely exists in some fashion at other vet schools. Learn about this week long communication skills intensive program by listening to this episode. WSU CVM Diagnostice ChallengeYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E4 - Special Guest Dr. Whitney Terrell Talks more about studying in Ireland and Pet Loss (Part 2)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.If you haven't listened to S2 : E3 (Part 1) with Dr. Whitney Terrell yet, please bookmark this episode and go listen to that one first. The 2 episodes are pretty self-contained, but this is a continuation of the conversation we had and probably best to listen to the entire discussion from beginning to end. We cover Alabama Football, the experience of studying overseas in Ireland, pet loss, parenting styles and so much more. And yet it seems like we just scratched the surface. We'll probably need to have her on again. Dr. Whitney Terrell on Instagram & tiktok = @dr.terrellpetvet , University College Dublin School of Veterinary MedicineYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E3 - Special Guest Dr. Whitney Terrell Talks about Enneagrams and going to Vet School in Dublin, Ireland (Part 1).

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Sara and I are together on this one to talk with the wonderful Dr. Whitney Terell ( @dr.terrellpetvet ). We talked so long, that we didn't even get close to wrapping this up in 1 episode. During this episode we mainly cover her passion for the Enneagram, and her experience applying to, getting in to, and attending Vet School in Dublin, Ireland. University College Dublin School of Veterinary Medicine is AVMA Accredited but it does not have a SAVMA chapter, so it's a bit off of our radar. Take a listen. You just might learn something?Dr. Whitney Terrell on Instagram & tiktok = @dr.terrellpetvet , University College Dublin School of Veterinary MedicineEnneagram TestingYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E2 - That "What I did last summer" episode; Gary edition

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Gary shares most of his summer activities. Not as exciting as Sara's. It gives a good perspective on his AVMA summer duties. Gary and Sara also talk about some unique aspects of the Washington State University College of Veterinary Medicine second year curriculum. We apologize for a few technical difficulties. The audio is fine, but not the level we desire. We strive to improve this. We'd also like to once again thank Ready Vet Go mentoring platform for sponsoring this recording. Founder Dr. Dani Rabwin is just absolutely the best. She is always looking for ways to encourage and support the newest generation of veterinarians and we are honored that she thinks this podcast is worthy of Ready Vet Go Support.Ready, Vet, Go!Washington State University College of Veterinary MedicineMoon Snail infoYour ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S2 : E1 - That "What I did last summer" episode; Sara edition

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Thank you for being so patient for the first episode of Season 2 of It Might Get Weird: The Podcast. Sara's second year of vet school is starting, but first... summer was jam packed and we want to tell you all about it. There was so much going on, that we could only fit Sara's summer into this episode. She worked hard, visited several states, and even had a couple foreign adventures. Thanks for listening. Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E48 Special Collaboration with The Dr. Molly Says Podcast and the Questions with Crocker Podcast

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.I know we said we were taking a break for summer, but the opportunity came up to have Dr. Molly Brinkman, Dr. Tannetje Crocker and I record together to talk about our upcoming panel talk together at AVMA Convention this summer in Washington DC (Saturday July 19th at 4:00pm). Our talk is titled: "What I know now that I wish I knew then: Wisdom for students and early career veterinarians"The Dr. Molly Says PodcastQuestions with Crocker PodcastAVMA Convention 2025Downloads = 5203, Countries = 46, Cities = 674Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E46 - Year 1 Finals Are Here... and so is the end of Season 1!

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.This episode wraps up Season 1 of It Might Get Weird the Podcast. Thank you so much for listening. Sara and Gary have had fun. It's been a pretty weird year for both of them. This episode reviews a bit of Gary's thought on the AAVMC Catalyze / Iverson Bell Conference he recently attended in Washington DC. Most of the episode delves into Sara's feelings with Finals week upon her as well as reflecting on the highs and lows of her life as she wraps up year 1 out of 4 of her Vet School career. Enjoy your summer. Gary and Sara plan to. We're planning on great content starting back up in August for Season 2. Please come back. Downloads = 4755, Countries = 42, Cities = 596Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E45 - The "So You Wanna Be A Zoo Vet" Episode

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Unfortunately Sara was unavailable for recording this week. Fortunately, Gary was able to secure an amazing guest while he was at the AAVMC Catalyze Conference in Washington DC. This week he interviews Dr. Laci Taylor a current Zoo Medicine Resident at The Smithsonian's National Zoo. Gary wanted so much to learn about all the exciting things that Dr. Taylor is doing during her Residency, but that will have to come another day. Before that can happen, we need to learn how she got into this role. Dr. Taylor shares some great tips to plan ahead for post vet school options like hers, and does a great job at providing some motivating for when the odds seem slim. Thanks for listening. Interested in hearing about other Vet Student and/or Vet School topics? We're starting a list. Text us your ideas at the link above.Smithsonian's National Zoo and Conservation Biology InstituteDr. Laci TaylorDr. Moriah McCauleyAmerican Association of Veterinary Medical CollegesDownloads = 4626, Countries = 40, Cities = 587Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E44 - The talking about bear research and Gary's pre-vet mentor episode

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.If you only have time to listen to one recent episode, this would be a good choice. Sara and Gary got together in person to record this while Gary visited WSU's College of Veterinary Medicine in his role as AVMA Vice President, and to deliver a presentation about one of his most impactful mentors, Dr. Leo K. Bustad, to the Humane Animal Bond Club. It was a great opportunity for Sara and Gary to catch up. Sara shares her recent experience at the WSU Bear Center and educates Gary on a bit of very interesting bear biology.  Thanks for listening. Enjoy.WSU Bear CenterDr. Leo K. Bustad last speech on YouTubeCompassion: Our Last Great Hope, Select speeches and writings of Leo K. Bustad, DVM, PhDDownloads = 4531, Countries = 39, Cities = 573Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E43 - The High School Romance Episode

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.After Gary was in Davis California to attend SAVMA Symposium, he took a little detour to Folsom California to visit his friends Alysson and Dr. Marcus Dela Cruz, and to finally meet their dog Charlie (a good boye) in person for the first time. They were so gracious to let Gary stay with them, and to record this impromptu interview while there young son was napping. Their story of navigating a long distance relationship and negotiating options to support each other during the vet school years will hopefully resonate with so many that are figuring that out now, living through it now, or who remember their own experience with relationships during vet school. Enjoy and thanks for listening. Marcus on instagram = @thefriendlyvetAllyson on instagram = @allyson.joyePurdue University College of Veterinary MedicineEpisodes = 4415, Countries = 37, Cities = 562Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E42 - We Ramble a Bit Epsisode

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Sara and Gary hadn't talked in a while. They get a bit caught up and share what's been going on. They start out in a bit of a dull mood, but pick up a bit by the end. These times and conversations are all part of the journey that is Vet School and/or  a Vet Career. Thanks for listening. SAVMA on InstagramWashington State Veterinary Medical AssociationAnjelica Bautista on InstagramDownloads = 4322, Countries = 37, Cities = 553(newest countries = Uzbekistan, Bangladesh, Romania and of course, after Episode 42, Saipan is comin' in hot!)Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 41 - Special Guest Lauren Cabrera edition - before she starts vet school at WSU

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.This should probably be titled, "Wait... You did what?" episode. Or the "Gary seems shell-shocked". Gary is definitely not on his A-game here. It's probably because he had never met his amazing guest Nurse Practioner Lauren Cabrera before he hit the record button for his interview. It could have been because Sara wasn't present this time either. Sara was off the grid for spring break camping along the west coast somewhere (hopefully we'll hear about that soon). Another reason that Gary was not quite on-point this week is because with each question he asked, he didn't seem to be able to process Lauren's amazing answers fast enough to be able to react and pivot the conversations. You do not want to miss this episode. Lauren's journey to this point - on the verge of starting vet school in the WSU CVM Class of '29 - is quite the ride. We would truly love your ratings, reviews and pleas use the text link to give us your feedback and to let us know if we should follow up with Lauren once she's in school. Thanks for listening. Lauren Cabrera on instagram as @future.island.vetLauren's Rescue content on instagram @booniesflightprojectBanfield FoundationWashington State University College of Veterinary MedicineReady Vet Go - Thanks for the audio supportDownloads = 4154, Countries = 34, Cities = 538Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E40 - The Applying to Vet School Episode

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.https://readyvetgo.co/Are you in the process of applying to Vet School? Do you know somebody thinking about applying? Please listen and share this edition of It Might Get Weird the Podcast. In order to coordinate a time for Sara and Gary to record this episode, we find gary a bit rummy with this late night conversation. Fortunately, Sara drives the conversation to break down the process of applying to vet school. The AAVMC (American Association of Veterinary Medical Colleges) is the organization that manages the VMCAS (Veterinary Medical College Application Service). As always, thanks for listening. Ready Vet Go helps with audio support for IMGWVMCAS - Veterinary Medical College Application ServiceEpisodes = , Countries = , Cities = Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E39 - More from the UK schools, and some Sara school updates (part 2 of Episode 38)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.This is a continuation of episode 38. Gary is still in London. Sara is still in Pullman. Gary shares more insights into differences of the UK systems, and Sara shares more insights from second semester of year 1 at WSU. Guest lectures and Sim labs. Thanks for listening. Ready Vet Go mentoring platformWSU College of Vet MedRoyal (Dick) Vet School - EdinburghUniversity of Glasgow Vet SchoolRoyal Vet College - LondonDownloads = 3901, Countries = 35, Cities = 519Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 38 - Mostly about UK Veterinary Education, but also Sara's recent struggles (Part 1)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Sara shares life updates and stumbles. Gary shares a lot about the UK veterinary education system while he's still in London. This is another Part 1. Make sure and listen to the conclusion (Episode 39) when it comes out March 4, 2025Thanks to Ready Vet Go Mentoring ProgramDownloads = 3864, Countries = 34, Cities = 517Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 37 - The "going to vet school in Scotland" episode.

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Are you curious about the UK vet school system? Listen to this super informative episode with Guest Siena Mandy. Siena is a 3rd year Veterinary Student at the University of Glasgow College of Veterinary Medicine. She and Dr. Marshall have known each other through SAVMA events for a few years and, as she is originally from Washington State, she has been able to spend time at Island Cats Veterinary Hospital with Dr. Marshall. She was gracious enough to take time away from her studies to meet in person with Dr. Marshall on the historic main campus of the University of Glasgow to share a bit of her story of how she learned of, applied to, and has since moved to Scotland to study. This is a brief episode. No part 2 coming for this one. It does mean that we might need a follow up episode with Siena in the future, as they just scratched the surface in this episode. Thanks for listening. Siena Mandy = @siena.mandyU of Glasgow SAVMA Chapter = @SAVMA.GlasgowDownloads = 3750, Countries = 34, Cities 501Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E36 - The one that starts out very sad, but works it's way out of it.

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Gary shares his struggles with making medical decisions for his own cat Millie. That's the very sad part. This decision making crisis overlapped with the disappointment and frustration over a decision made by the new administration. Sara helps brings things back into a better place by steering the conversation toward what they both look forward to in the near future. Thanks for listening. Hug your cat. American Veterinary Medical Foundation Scholarship OpportunitiesReady Vet GoLap of LoveDownloads = 3643, Countries = 32, Cities = 490Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 35 - The Wrath of Second Semester of Freshman Year

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.As Sara settles into second semester of her first year of vet school at Washington State University, she's in a good position to tell us how she really feels about it. There's some good mixed in with the ramped up coursework. Gary and Sara also randomly talk quite about about Chewy Vet and where they've been and where they're going. Thanks for listening. Chewy Vet CareViking Veterinary HospitalDownloads = 3590, Countries = 32, Cities = 486Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : 34 - Dr. Nia Powell wraps up our discussion on the NAVLE (Part 2)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Dr. Nia Powell Joins Sara and Gary for Part 2 of their discussion about coping with initially not passing the NAVLE (North American Veterinary Licensing Exam). This is a stressful topic, but please listen to the entire conversation. It gets light and fun as Sara and Nia talk about tips, tricks and hacks to survive the vet school curriculum. Thanks for listening. Dr. Nia Powell on instagramInternational Council on Veterinary Assessment (ICVA = NAVLE)Chewy PowerPrep Boot CampDownloads = 3462, Countries = 32, Cities = 480Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 33 - Opening that NAVLE Score email with Dr. Nia Powell (Part 1)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Dr. Nia Powell Joins Sara and Gary to discuss coping with initially not passing the NAVLE (North American Veterinary Licensing Exam). So many veterinary students are receiving an email this week announcing if they passed this beast of a test or not. Nia provides first hand experience, and maybe some advice, on how to cope with not passing, and with passing. This is an important episode if you took this test recently, or if you know anyone that did. And it's only part 1, so make sure and listen to Episode 34 (Part 2) as well. Thanks for listening. Dr. Nia Powell on instagramInternational Council on Veterinary Assessment (ICVA = NAVLE)Downloads = 3355, Countries = 32, Cities = 467Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 32 - Special Guest Dr. Phil Richmond: 2 men talking about more stuff (Part 2)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Drs. Phil Richmond and Gary Marshall (no Sara during this part 2) wrap up there conversation and cover a lot of ground. Most importantly for vet students listening, they have a discussion about the emotions surrounding that moment the NAVLE scores arrive in your email inbox. Phil also shares about the cutting edge program he helped develop to provide mental health resources to all veterinary professionals in his home state, and we almost learn just how many birds he and his family live with. Ready Vet Go Mentoring ResourcePhil Richmond, DVM, CAPP, CPHSA, CCFPFlorida Vet Med AssociationUnfiltered Vet Discussions PodcastDownloads = 3269, Countries = 31, Cities = 452Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 31 - Special Guest Dr. Phil Richmond: 2 men talking about stuff (Part 1)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.This will probably be the only episode with just 2 guys talking. Sara was unable to join for this episode, so Dr. Gary Marshall and Guest Dr. Phil Richmond were left on their own to chat. They talk about guy things like Hugh Jackman, lifting weights, how much smarter and accomplished their wives are compared to them, burnout, mentorship, psychological safety and dive bars in Chicago. Of course these are not specific "guy things". They're just things. We're all in this together. We think you'll enjoy this part one of their conversation.  Phil Richmond, DVM, CAPP, CPHSA, CCFPAVMA Veterinary Leadership ConferenceFlorida Vet Med AssociationThe Culture Code by Daniel CoyleThe Billy Goat TavernDownloads = 3167, Countries = 31, Cities = 438Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 30 - Christmas Karaoke and vet school interview advice (Part 2 of Episode 29)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.The last episode of 2024. For reals this time! Enjoy. This is a pretty fun one, and also very informative if you are getting nervous about upcoming vet school interviews. Sara breaks down her strategy and gives some solid advice on how to crush your interview. Gary asks a few questions, but other than that, doesn't say much. Which is nice for a change. Vet School interview QuizletsThanks again to Ready Vet Go for sponsoring our audio. Sign up now for their spring cohort. Downloads =2941 , Countries = 31, Cities = 411Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 29 - The Finals Episode, and the final episode of 2024... almost, but not quite. (Part 1)

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Ho, Ho, Ho!! The Holidays are here. Sara survived finals! Gary visits DC. Let's talk about all of it. This will be part 1 of 2. Then we will be taking a week or two off at years end. That will be a good time to catch up on the episodes you've missed. Thanks for listening. We really appreciate you. Downloads = 2843, Countries = 31, Cities = 399Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 28 - Guest Dr. Moriah McCauley talks about Mentorship (Part 2) and we plot out our conferences for 2025

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Here's Part 2 of our Mentoring Episode with the wonderful Moriah McCauley. If you haven't listened to Part 1, find it (hint: S1 : E 27) and listen!As always, thanks for listening.And thanks again to Ready Vet Go and founder Dr. Dani Rabwin for sponsoring.Also, connect with Moriah on instagram @dr.moriah.mccauleyand listen to her podcast "So You're a Vet...  Now What?"Listen to the Veterinary Roundtable Podcast and buy a ticket to their VMX party hosted by @Dr.MollysaysDownloads = 2691, Countries = 31, Cities = 388Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E27 - Guest Dr. Moriah McCauley talks about Mentorship (Part 1) and we invent new Holidays

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Sara and Gary have been waiting a long time for the stars, and their calendars, to align to be able to record a Mentorship episode with Dr. Moriah McCauley. This is just Part 1 though. Just the beginning! Listen to this episode before Part 2 drops. As always, thanks for listening. And thanks again to Ready Vet Go and founder Dr. Dani Rabwin for sponsoring. readyvetgo.coAlso, connect with Moriah on instagram @dr.moriah.mccauleyand listen to her podcast "So You're a Vet...  Now What?"Downloads = 2555, Countries = 30, Cities = 384Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 26 - The Grateful Episode, and... Cancer Sucks!!!

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.One of the things Sara and Gary are grateful for is that, with this episode, they've accomplished 6 months of weekly podcast delivery. Sara lost that bet! During this Thanksgiving Holiday week, Gary and Diane both had time to breath, and reflect on what they are grateful this year. Thanks so much for listening. Definitely grateful to all the weirdos out there!Ready Vet Go MentoringSo You're a Vet... Now What? PodcastDr. Moriah McCauley on Instagram   Downloads = 2371, Countries = 27, Cities = 364Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 25 - "May I speak with candor sir?"

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Sara and Gary have had a couple of emotional and exhausting weeks. Listen in as they share what they've been up to, while they get caught up with each other. University of Georgia Vet Med = @ugavetmedUniversity of Georgia SAVMA = @uga_savmaMakenna Hughes = @makenna_hughesCritter Fixers = @critterfixers_countryvetsDr. Vernard Hodges @drhodges_critterfixervetDr. Terrence Ferguson = @drferguson_critterfixervetDr. Brittney Kilgore = @thatvetbkCat Care of Fayette = @catcareoffayetteCenters of Disease Control = @cdcgovAthens Area Humane SocietyAVMA DEIW SummitNAVC Hive Education ConferenceLatha Pan-African Cuisine, PhoenixDownloads = 2,265, Countries = 26, Cities = 360Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E 24 - Special Guest Anjelica Bautista shares her journey to vet school

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.If you want to be inspired by the future of veterinary medicine, please listen to this episode. Gary talks with 1st year WSU vet student Anjelica Bautista as she shares about how her heritage and culture influenced her path to vet med, and how it's influencing her actions now and into the future. Connect with Anjelica on instagram here or on Linkedin hereConnect with Kim Layne, DVM on instagram hereMaurice Cotman, Director, Diversity, Equity and Inclusion WSU CVM Visit our sponsor Ready Vet Go here (readyvetgo.co)Downloads = 2091, Countries = 26 , Cities = 346Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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    S1 : E23 - Let's get to know Gary a little better.

    Click here to text us your questions & comments.Welcome to another regular episode of It Might Get Weird with Sara Rae and Dr. Gary Marshall. As promised, episode 22 (the True Crime edition) was a Halloween special and we don't plan on doing that again! In this episode, the tables are turned from episode 21, and this time Sara interviews Gary. She dug in and unearthed what may be the pivotal childhood moment that opened Gary's eyes to veterinary medicine. Enjoy. Thanks for listening? Downloads = , Countries = , Cities = Your ratings, reviews and feedback are always appreciated.Gary Marshall, DVM = @it.might.get.weirdBianca Plowman = @bianca_plowman   &   Sara Rae = @its_sara1231https://itmightgetweird.buzzsprout.com/

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Welcome to "It Might Get Weird," the podcast where we dive into the journeys of veterinary professionals. Your hosts are Dr. Gary Marshall and Sara Rae. Gary has been a veterinarian for more than 35 years. Sara has been a veterinarian for zero years. That's about to change and that's why we're here. Our main focus will be to follow Sara on adventures as a Washington State University class of 2028 veterinary student. We’ll be along for the ride as she encounters challenges, and celebrates triumphs during her 4 year commitment to become a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine. Along the way, we’ll also interview super interesting individuals who have valuable stories to share about their personal and professional journeys.

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