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Its Not Black or White
by Tim Stevenson and Diane Blakeley
Welcome to It’s Not Black or White—a podcast where real stories meet honest conversations. Each episode explores the people, ideas, and experiences that prove life is rarely lived in absolutes. Hosted by Tim Stevenson and Diane Blakeley, we sit down with actors, dancers, musicians, politicians, entrepreneurs, business leaders, technology innovators, medical experts, survivors, community voices, and everyday people with extraordinary stories. From health and leadership to culture, current events, and resilience, we invite you to listen, learn, and see the world differently.
Episodes
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Bonner Paddock Pt 2 - Boundaries & Energy Vampires
In Part 2, Bonner Paddock tells Tim Stevenson and Diane Blakeley how he built Project Possible, a foundation with six centers in five countries where every dollar raised goes to the kids it serves. He talks about the anger he carried toward his parents, the forgiveness he found with his dad, and...
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Bonner Paddock Pt 1 _Met Death on Kilimanjaro
Bonner Paddock was born with the umbilical cord wrapped around his neck. Seven doctors gave six different diagnoses before he was correctly diagnosed with cerebral palsy at 11. He went on to climb Kilimanjaro, finish the Ironman, and write the bestselling book One More Step.In Part 1, Bonner sits...
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Sarah Wilson Pt 1
🎙️ In this episode of It’s Not Black or White, we sit down with Sarah Wilson, host of theEverything’s Messy Podcast, for an honest conversation about her health journey. Sarah opens up about diabetes, experiencing a heart attack, recovery, resilience, and the life lessons she’s learned along the...
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Ana Allen Pt 1. - Midlife, social media, identity
In Part 1 of It’s Not Black or White, we sit down with Ana Allen for an open and honest conversation about midlife, social media, identity, change, and what it means to keep evolving. Ana shares her perspective on navigating this stage of life, the pressure and influence of social media, and the...
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Cole Blakely pt 2-
In Part 2 of our conversation with Cole Blakeley on It’s Not Black or White, we go deeper into the creative journey behind the music.Cole opens up about his process as a songwriter and artist, the ups and downs of building something from the ground up, and the progress he’s made along the way. He...
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Cole Blakeley Pt 1
In this episode of It’s Not Black or White, we sit down with Cole Blakeley, the 17-year-old founder, songwriter, and guitarist of the band Dove Cottage.At an age when most people are still discovering what they want to pursue, Cole is already building an impressive creative career. He taught...
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JEANIE BALLARD – Integrative Energy Healer | Part 2
In Part 2 of It’s Not Black or White, we go even deeper with Jeanie Ballard as the conversation moves further into the spiritual side of energy, healing, intuition, and connection. Jeanie shares more about how she listens to Spirit, how energy can guide the work she does, and what it means to...
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JEANIE BALLARD – Integrative Energy Healer | Part 1
In Part 1 of t’s Not Black or White, we sit down with Jeanie Ballard, Integrative Energy Healer**, for a fascinating conversation about energy, intuition, and spiritual connection.Jeanie shares her perspective on kinetic energy, collective energy, and learning to listen to Spirit when working…
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The Smilos pt 3
The Smilos – Part 3 | It’s Not Black or White In Part 3 of our conversation with The Smilos, we go even deeper into health, healing, advocacy, and the power of searching for answers. Tim shares his mother's personal experience and discusses some of the things he believes helped her during her...
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The Smilos. Pt 2
In this part of our conversation with The Smilos, we go deeper into their incredible journey—including their trip to Germany for advanced treatment options, the decisions they faced along the way, and what they learned at every step of the process. We also talk about the importance of being...
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The Smilos- Pt 1
The Smilos – Part 1 In Part 1, we sit down with Mike Smilo to hear his incredible story of surviving Stage IV melanoma after being told he may only have weeks to live. Mike shares how he refused to accept his initial prognosis, searched for expert opinions, explored emerging treatments and…
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Dr. Richard Harris Pt3 - IBOGAINE
In Part 3 of our conversation with Dr. Richard Harris from UC Irvine, we go even deeper into the world of ibogaine—exploring its effects, potential benefits, serious risks, and what the future may hold for this controversial psychedelic treatment. We discuss what researchers are learning about…
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Dr. Richard Harris - Ibogaine- Pt 2
In Part 2 of our conversation with Dr. Richard Harris from UC Irvine, we take a deeper look at ibogaine and its potential role in addiction recovery.Dr. Harris discusses the treatment facility in Tijuana, Mexico, and walks us through the intense two-day ibogaine journey—from preparation and...
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Ana Allen- Pt. 1- Mid Life, Social Media and More
In Part 1 of It’s Not Black or White, we sit down with Ana Allen for an open and honest conversation about midlife, social media, identity, change, and what it means to keep evolving. Ana shares her perspective on navigating this stage of life, the pressure and influence of social media, and the...
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Dr. Richard Harris _ Ibogaine. Pt. 1
In this episode of *It’s Not Black or White*, we sit down with Dr. Richard Harris from UC Irvine (UCI) to discuss ibogaine—an experimental psychedelic treatment being studied for its potential therapeutic benefits. We explore the research, clinical trials, possible effects, safety concerns, and...
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Antony Walford Pt 3- The Future of AI
PART 3 — Antony Waldorf | The Future of AI In Part 3 of our conversation with AI expert Antony Waldorf, we take an even deeper look at where artificial intelligence may be taking us—and how dramatically it could reshape our world. As AI becomes more capable, what happens to the people whose jobs...
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Antony Waldorf pt 2 AI Talk
Artificial Intelligence is advancing faster than ever, and in Part 2 of our conversation with Antony Waldorf, we tackle some of the biggest questions surrounding AI today—and where it's taking us tomorrow. Can AI already outperform humans at coding? Will AI eventually be able to make decisions…
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Antony Waldorf- Ai Expert. pt. 1
Artificial intelligence is evolving at an incredible pace—and what does that mean for the future? In this episode of It's Not Black or White, we sit down with AI expert Antony Waldorf to explore the latest breakthroughs shaping the AI world. From emerging technologies and real-world applications…
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Taylor Shupe pt 3
In Part 3 of It's Not Black or White, we continue our conversation with Taylor Shupe as we dive into the vision behind the zero-waste brand he's creating. Taylor shares the inspiration for the brand, the mission driving it, and how innovation and sustainability can work together to create lasting...
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Taylor Shupe pt 2
In this episode, Taylor Shupe and I dive into international business, the power of empathy in leadership, the creative mindset of today's youth, and how innovation and human connection shape success. It's an insightful conversation filled with real-world experiences, fresh perspectives, and...
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Taylor Shupe Pt 1
In this episode of It's Not Black or White, we sit down with entrepreneur Taylor Shupe, co-founder of Stance and founder of FutureStitch. Taylor shares his journey of building innovative companies, leading with purpose, and why he believes everyone deserves a second chance. We explore how his...
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Adina Ray- Cancer Talk Pt 3
In Part 3, we continue the conversation about cancer, healing, and the lessons learned along the way. Tim also opens up about his mom’s cancer journey and shares how his family found ways to help, bringing light, laughter, and even fun into the procedures and treatments. This episode is a…
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Adina Ray- Cancer Talk pt.2
In this episode, we continue our powerful conversation about cancer, healing, and self-discovery. Our guest shares what she has learned about listening to her body, trusting her instincts, and exploring the different paths she chose throughout her journey. It’s an honest and inspiring…
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Adina Ray- Cancer Talk pt. 1
In this episode of It’s Not Black or White, we sit down with Adina to begin her powerful story. She shares the emotional journey of her initial cancer diagnosis, what doctors were telling her at the time, and how everything first started to unfold. \This conversation opens the door to the fear,...
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Eddie Garcia Pt. 3. Bubbles and more
In Part 3 of our conversation with Eddie Garcia, the stories keep getting better. Eddie takes us deeper into his incredible time working with Michael Jackson, sharing more behind-the-scenes moments, lessons, memories, and what it was like being around one of the greatest entertainers of all time....
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EDDIE GARCIA pt 2
In Part 2 of our conversation with Eddie Garcia, we continue the journey beyond the stage and into the lessons, stories, and wisdom that shaped his career. Eddie talks about mentorship, the importance of guidance in the dance industry, and what it meant to learn from and work around some of the...
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Eddie Garcia Pt.1
In Part 1 of our conversation with Eddie Garcia, we dive into his incredible journey through dance, from his early beginnings to working with some of the biggest names in entertainment. Eddie shares stories from his time with Paula Abdul and Janet Jackson, and how his talent, dedication, and…
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Religion Talk Pt. 2
🎙️ It's Not Black or White Podcast | Part 2: Religion, Faith & Uncomfortable QuestionsThe conversation continues in Part 2 as Tim Stevenson and Diane Blakeley dive even deeper into religion, faith, and the questions that often spark passionate debate. From giving people the benefit of the doubt…
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Religion Talk Pt. 1
🎙️ It's Not Black or White Podcast, Part 1: Religion, History, and Hard Questions. In this thought-provoking episode of It's Not Black or White, Tim Stevenson and Diane Blakeley tackle some of the most controversial and uncomfortable conversations surrounding religion, faith, and history. Topics...
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Esther Kim Varet Pt. 3
In Episode 3 of It’s Not Black or White, we sit down with Esther Kim Varet for a powerful conversation about fighting for everyone, not just one side. We talk about what it means to lead with centrist ideals, how to connect with everyday people, and why Democrats may need to take a page from...
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Esther Kim Varet Pt 2
In Part 2 of our conversation on It’s Not Black or White, we continue the discussion with a congressional candidate running to represent California’s 40th District — a working mom, entrepreneur, and problem solver who is ready to challenge politics as usual. This episode goes deeper into the...
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Esther Kim Varet Pt1
In this episode of It’s Not Black or White, we sit down with a congressional candidate running to represent California’s 40th District — a working mom, entrepreneur, and self-described problem solver who says she is ready to challenge the cycle of career politicians and bring a fresh perspective…
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Free Speech, Gerrymandering and the Other Tim
Episode 10: Free Speech, Gerrymandering, and the Other Tim On this episode of It’s Not Black or White, we dive into the power, limits, and consequences of free speech in today’s political and cultural climate. We also unpack gerrymandering, how voting districts shape power, and why it matters…
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I adopted a black child
On this episode of It’s Not Black or White, we sit down with Stacey Doss, a white mother raising a Black child in Orange County, CA. This honest and thought-provoking conversation dives into the realities of navigating race, identity, and parenting across cultures. Stacey shares what she’s…
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God Complexes, Gender Roles, Women in Leadership, Ecosystem and More
🎙️ It’s Not Black or White In a world that tries to label everything as right or wrong, this podcast lives in the gray. In this episode, we dive deep into the realities of God complexes, the evolving power and presence of women in leadership, shifting gender roles, and the interconnected…
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Covid, Chemo, Trump Disrespect, and More
“Covid, Chemo, and Disrespect” explores the intersection of health crises and human behavior. In this episode of It’s Not Black or White, we unpack the emotional, physical, and social challenges that come with serious illness—and the ways respect, empathy, and understanding can break down when...
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Health Care, Insurance, the Moon and More
In this episode of It’s Not Black or White, we dive into a thought-provoking mix of topics that impact our lives in different ways — from health care and insurance to the mysteries of the moon and so much more. Join the conversation as we unpack real issues, challenge perspectives, and explore…
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Never Judge a Book By it's Cover- Full Episode
In this full episode of It’s Not Black or White, the hosts dive into an array of thought-provoking topics designed to challenge perspectives, spark conversation, and stimulate your thinking. From real-world issues to deeper reflections on culture, life, and society, this episode invites you to...
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Never Judge a Book by its Cover
In this episode of It’s Not Black or White, the hosts discuss several important topics, including why you should never judge a book by its cover. From first impressions to deeper truths, this conversation unpacks how people are often misunderstood based on appearances alone.Expect honest…
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It's not Black or White "The SAVE ACT, Guns, Men and Women jobs, You are not a tree"
On this episode of It’s Not Black or White, we tackle The SAVE Act, guns, jobs and gender roles, and the truth behind the phrase “you are not a tree.” This conversation is bold, real, and built to make you think. We’re breaking down serious issues, challenging comfort zones, and reminding people...
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State of the Union — Validating Nonsense & “I’m Just Black”
In this powerful and thought-provoking episode of It’s Not Black or White, hosts Tim Stevenson and Diane Blakeley take a deeper look at the State of the Union—not just politically, but culturally and socially. The conversation explores how modern dialogue is often shaped by emotion, identity, and...
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State of the Union and More
Host Tim Stevenson and Diane Blakeley sit down for a real, no-fluff conversation that goes beyond the headlines. Starting with a State of the Union breakdown, they unpack what’s being said, what’s not being said, and what it could mean for everyday people—then widen the lens into culture,...
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ABOUT THIS SHOW
Welcome to It’s Not Black or White—a podcast where real stories meet honest conversations. Each episode explores the people, ideas, and experiences that prove life is rarely lived in absolutes. Hosted by Tim Stevenson and Diane Blakeley, we sit down with actors, dancers, musicians, politicians, entrepreneurs, business leaders, technology innovators, medical experts, survivors, community voices, and everyday people with extraordinary stories. From health and leadership to culture, current events, and resilience, we invite you to listen, learn, and see the world differently.
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